The Promoted

Bryan pricey at £5.0m but Rodak may rack up the save points in Fulham defence

Having provided the lowdown on Fulham manager Scott Parker, our series on the newly-promoted Premier League sides continues with this look at the Cottagers’ defence.

We will discuss the west London side’s midfielders and forwards in our final piece.

In this article, we will assess Fulham’s overall clean sheet chances and then present a player-by-player rundown of their backline.

With the likes of Charlie Taylor, Ruben Vinagre and Luke Ayling all available for £4.5m, the Cottagers’ defenders will have a tough task in convincing us of their worth.

Their shot-stopping goalkeeper may be a save point-magnet in 2020/21, however.

We’ve again roped in the help of Brandon Kelley, Fantasy Football Scout frequenter, co-host of the Always Cheating podcast and a New York-based Fulham supporter, for this feature.


WHAT IS FULHAM’S CLEAN SHEET POTENTIAL?

Fulham only had the fourth-best defensive record in the Championship last season, having conceded 48 goals in 46 matches.

The Cottagers kept 17 clean sheets in 2019/20, five fewer than champions Leeds United (22) but three more than runners-up West Bromwich Albion (14).

It’s always a promising sign for FPL if a newly promoted side looks defensively solid in home games but, rather concerningly, Parker’s troops conceded more goals on their own soil (26) than eight other Championship clubs last season.

Overall, they were ranked sixth for fewest expected goals conceded and fewest shots conceded per match.

Their two goalkeepers, more on which in the next section, were kept busier than Leeds and West Brom’s custodians, making 118 saves between them.

The Cottagers’ league record was as follows:


PWDLFAGDPTSCS
Total462312116448+168117
Home2315264026+144710
Away2381052422+2347

CS = Clean sheets


As was the case with West Brom, Fulham tightened up in the second half of 2019/20.

Just six of their shut-outs arrived in the first 23 ‘Gameweeks’ of the Championship campaign, with the other 11 arriving thereafter.

It was perhaps no coincidence, with centre-back Michael Hector (£4.5m) arriving in the January transfer window and having a transformative effect on the Fulham backline.

The Cottagers kept ten clean sheets in the 20 games that Hector started, conceding on just 17 occasions.

Brandon Kelley told us:

Fulham’s 2018–19 squad were whipping boys and they had one of the worst defences that the Premier League has seen in recent memory. It wasn’t helped by a constant goalkeeper rotation, an injury to new signing Alfie Mawson, and needing to bed in two full-back replacements for both Ryan Fredericks and Matt Targett – both of whom were immense in Fulham’s previous push to promotion.

Some of Fulham’s defensive issues have since been fixed, notably the emergence of Marek Rodak and Michael Hector’s signing from Sheffield Wednesday. Hector has an imperious stature and eye for a tackle that reminds me (sorry, but I’m going there) of Virgil van Dijk and his solid play has almost certainly brought some of the confidence back that Tim Ream had lost during his last Premier League campaign.

Our Fulham correspondent also hailed the influence of loanee Harrison Reed (£4.5m), who remains a Southampton player at the time of writing but who did a commendable job as a defensive midfielder in the English second tier last season:

It’s also worth noting that Harrison Reed, who was on loan from Southampton last season, shielded Fulham’s defence incredibly well. If Parker is able to work a permanent deal and keep Reed in his midfield, then I’d genuinely be eyeing a Fulham goalkeeper or defender at £4.5m.

PLAYER BY PLAYER

*Figures given below are for the regulation Championship season only and exclude the three play-off matches

MAREK RODAK

Goalkeeper

Starts: 33 | Clean sheets: 13

Marcus Bettinelli (£4.5m) had started the season between the posts for Fulham but was deposed after just 12 games, with Marek Rodak (£4.5m) remaining as Parker’s first-choice goalkeeper for the rest of the season.

Rodak, who had spent the previous two years on loan at Rotherham United, impressed upon his promotion to the starting XI, going on to register 13 clean sheets in 33 starts (he was sent off early on in the 0-0 draw with Middlesbrough in October, so we won’t count that).

While clean sheets might be a significant concern for Fulham based on what we have discussed above, Rodak looks a good bet for save points in FPL next season.

Just four first-team regulars in the Championship made more saves per match than the 23-year-old Slovak (2.9), a figure that will no doubt rise with more potent attacks to come up against in 2020/21.

His save percentage of 76.9% was also the best in the English second tier, while he also significantly outperformed his expected goals conceded tally.

Our Fulham expert, Brandon Kelley, talked up the young shot-stopper’s prospects:

Perhaps the best bet for straightforward FPL returns will be goalkeeper Marek Rodak, who has proven to be a decent shot-stopper. With Nick Pope confirmed at £5.5m, many FPL managers will be looking for a new cheap goalkeeper and I wonder if Rodak’s first season in the Premier League might be reminiscent of the early days of Lukasz Fabianski (whose middle name just happens to be… Marek!).

JOE BRYAN

Left-back

Starts: 39 | Substitute Appearances: 4 | Goals: 1 | Assists: 7

Joe Bryan‘s (£5.0m) brace in the play-off final may have sealed his fate in Fantasy Premier League, with the powers-that-be subsequently opting to make him the most expensive Fulham defender in the game and hand him a £5.0m starting price.

The left-back had scored only one goal in the regular season, finding the back of the net against Wigan Athletic with an effort from just inside the Latics’ box.

While he did register more shots (38) than any other Fulham defender, his minutes-per-chance average (89.9) wasn’t even the best of the Cottagers’ backline and he had just one ‘big chance’ all season.

He had also taken only one direct free-kick before his heroics at Wembley.

It was Bryan’s assist potential that really stood out, with the 26-year-old full-back setting up seven goals in all – six of which were for Aleksandar Mitrovic (£6.0m).

Firing over more crosses from open play than any other Fulham player, Bryan was also second in line behind Anthony Knockaert (£5.5m) at corner-kick situations.

A minutes-per-chance-created average of 69.7 was the best of the west London side’s defensive assets.

A word of caution, though.

Bryan’s previous full campaign in the Championship, with Bristol City in 2017/18, saw him score on five occasions and set up a further three goals.

Again priced up by FPL as a £5.0m defender in 2018/19 off the back of those exploits, he registered just one attacking return – an assist – in 2,344 minutes of Premier League football.

Always Cheating’s Brandon Kelley also urged caution, saying:

Joe Bryan took all of the headlines for his play-off final heroics, and he does look much improved since one year ago, but don’t be fooled: Bryan won’t be scoring many free kicks in the Premier League, especially if Neeskens Kebano is on the pitch. 

DENIS ODOI

Right-back

Starts: 30 | Substitute Appearances: 4 | Goals: 0 | Assists: 1

Denis Odoi made more appearances at right-back than any other Fulham player last season but few Fantasy managers will be going near the 32-year-old Belgian if he stays in west London.

Odoi was mostly a regular pick when he was available (seven of his no-shows were enforced through injury or suspension) but there was the occasional benching, most notably in the play-off double-header against Cardiff City.

The step up in class next season might be in Odoi’s favour if he signs a new deal (his contract expires this summer), with the Belgian a more defensive-minded option than Cyrus Christie (£4.5m) at right-back and a nice counterbalance to the offensive Joe Bryan on the other flank.

Odoi offers little for FPL managers to get excited about, however, with his minutes-per-chance-created average at a poor 185.8 and his last goal coming back in 2017/18.

CYRUS CHRISTIE

Right-back

Starts: 13 | Substitute Appearances: 11 | Goals: 1 | Assists: 1

Cyrus Christie (£4.5m) is a more attacking option than Odoi at right-back.

Christie’s rates of goal attempts (one every 79.5 minutes), shots in the box (one every 130.1 minutes) and efforts on target (one every 286.2 minutes) were the best of the Fulham backline but, given that he has failed to score more than one goal in each of his last seven seasons, this is no Matt Doherty we’re talking about and some context has to be provided.

Bryan bettered him for key passes, meanwhile.

Just 13 Championship starts (plus two in the play-offs) highlights the lack of security and even if Odoi leaves, Parker will surely look to reinforce his options at right-back.

TIM REAM

Centre-back

Starts: 44 | Goals: 0 | Assists: 0

In our previous analysis of Parker, we mentioned his fondness for a conservative passing game.

That begins at the back, with the three leading Championship players for passes per match in 2019/20 all being Fulham centre-halves.

Top of that list is Tim Ream (£4.5m), whose total of 3,148 passes was the highest in the English second tier last season.

His pass completion rate of 89.3% was also the best of Fulham’s defenders in 2019/20, which will aid Ream’s cause in picking up bonus points on the occasions that the Cottagers keep clean sheets.

That’s about all that Ream offers, however.

The USA international, who has scored on just three occasions in his professional career, presents next to no goal threat and had just two shots in the whole of 2019/20.

The 32-year-old centre-half only created a chance every 395.1 minutes, meanwhile.

A sizeable section of the Fulham support would like to see an upgrade on Ream as the left-sided centre-back next year but after 44 league starts under Parker last season and limited time to dip into the transfer market, the American could still be a starter heading into 2020/21.

MICHAEL HECTOR

Centre-back

Starts: 20 | Goals: 0 | Assists: 2

As we discussed earlier in the article, Michael Hector‘s (£4.5m) capture from Chelsea had an instant impact on Fulham’s defence.

The Cottagers kept clean sheets in the first three of Hector’s starts and looked much more solid from his debut onwards, with the Jamaica international dubbed ‘Virgil van Mike’ by the Fulham faithful for his dominant displays.

Brandon Kelley said of the centre-back:

Parker has talked a great deal about stabilising the club, which will surely entail a greater focus on defensive organisation. Michael Hector transformed the Fulham backline when he was signed last season and he’ll be heavily involved in tackles, blocks and clearances – all BPS-worthy actions.

It’s worth taking a closer look at those baseline bonus point-earning figures:


PlayerMinutes per clearance, block and interception (CBI)Minutes per recovery
Hector14.414.8
Mawson15.417.0
Odoi18.415.3
Christie19.124.3
Ream20.816.2
Bryan23.917.5

Add Hector’s impressive defensive contributions to those passing figures we mentioned when discussing Ream earlier – Hector was ranked third among all Championship players for passes per game – and he should be well-reflected on the Bonus Points System.

Whether Fulham are good enough to keep more than a handful of clean sheets and get him in the mix for bonus points on a regular basis is debatable, however.

For someone so good in the air, Hector doesn’t score too many goals and he managed only six attempts in his 20 Fulham appearances.

Keep an eye out for his ‘Hollywood’ passes, though: two of his raking long balls led to assists against Huddersfield Town and Sheffield Wednesday.

ALFIE MAWSON

Centre-back

Starts: 25 | Substitute Appearances: 2 |Goals: 0 | Assists: 0

FPL managers may remember Alfie Mawson’s (£4.5m) goalscoring exploits from his time at Swansea City, with the budget defender scoring four goals from centre-back in 2016/17.

He indeed had more shots (12) than Ream and Fulham-era Hector put together last season, although his minutes-per-chance average of 183 was still unremarkable.

Mawson was the fall guy when Hector arrived, losing his place and then failing to regain it after a spell on the sidelines with a knee injury.

The Hector-Mawson partnership is one that Parker hasn’t tried outside of the FA Cup and it is a possibility next season if no other bodies arrive, with Mawson more at home in Ream’s role on the left-hand side of defence.

THE REST

Marcus Bettinelli (£4.5m) started out 2019/20 as Fulham’s first-choice goalkeeper but lost his place after 12 matches, returning only briefly when Rodak was dismissed and subsequently suspended in the autumn.

It remains to be seen if returning loanee Fabri (£4.0m) features in Parker’s plans in the Premier League and a place among the substitutes looks to be about the best that Bettinelli can hope for come Gameweek 1.

Maxime Le Marchand (£4.5m) started only three games all season, deputising for Bryan at left-back on two occasions.

The Frenchman was also thrown on as a substitute in nine fixtures, often as an additional centre-half as Fulham tried to close down a match.

Steven Sessegnon (£4.5m) saw a bit more game-time than Le Marchand but eight of his nine Championship starts came in the first two months of the campaign, with the youngster initially having been drafted in to cover for the injured Odoi at right-back.

He was mostly a substitute for the remainder of the season and, barring an injury crisis, he’ll likely be well down the pecking order when football resumes in September.


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  1. Over Midwicket
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Surprised not to see Martial in more teams. Focal point of the United attack, nailed, young, 200 points in limited minutes, is only going to get better..

    United out of Europa too so should play GW1.

    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'm getting one of martial or greenwood. Still undecided

      1. Srv210
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        yeah martial or greenwood for me too

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      It's a matter of deciding which one of 4 offers the best value: Martial, Bruno, Rashford or Greenwood. I'd put him 3rd in that list myself, behind Bruno and Greenwood.

    3. Sanchit
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      200 points as mid!
      He would've scored around 175 as a forward.
      Greenwood definitely better value and most people want Bruno because of set pieces.
      Even if you want to go 3 United, it's a tough call between Martial and Rashford.

      Jimenez a better option for 0.5 less

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I'd go along with all that.

      2. Over Midwicket
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Remember he will get way more baps this year. Will often get all 3 which he didn't last year (awful on baps). Meaning he could actually get MORE than 200 points with the same returns.

      3. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        That ignores the fact that Martial's numbers have vastly improved since Fernandes and Pogba have arrived second half of the season. The people judging Martial and Rashford by "if he had been a midfielder/forward he would have got x points" are in for a nasty surprise once the season starts.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          You could say the same of Greenwood though. In terms of value I'd still put Tony 3rd. But it's all subjective really. What I've done is put Vardy, Jimenez and Ings up top. It will be an easy 1 or 2FT to get Tony in when United return to the fray.

          1. Flair
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Didn't even notice the part about Greenwood, all I read was "Martial would have scored 175 as a forward" which has been an irritating logic I've been seeing a lot lately. Agree that Greenwood is great value, he's nailed in my team unless Sancho or a rotation RW is signed. My ranking is

            1) Fernandes
            2) Greenwood
            3) Martial

            Rashford is going to disappoint many.

            1. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Yes, that's exactly the order of priority I was putting forward.

    4. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Genuinely feel Martial can hit 20+ goals next season, his output has improved greatly since Pogba and Fernandes starting supplying the bullets. Has been in excellent form since the restart and is also passing the eye-test in the EL, very likely to be in my team for sure.

  2. My heart goes Salalalalah
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

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    1. Srv210
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      i see it

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Can you get a better one?

      1. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Trying. Time for change. Better?

      2. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Now?

        1. My heart goes Salalalalah
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Not working. I'll just leave it

    3. FPL Pillars
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      It’s certainly better then that nasty women, your previous pic, then is was better to have none.

      1. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I'll let my gran know how you feel 😉

    4. Blitzar
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      How do I get a grav ?

      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Gravatar.com, follow instructions

      2. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        What he said...

  3. pingissimus
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Assuming relative equality of fixtures is a million saved on Doherty over Robbo smart? I’m looking here at a scenario where I go with a second and not a third premium.

    That form from 25 or so on (ie not just post restart with it’s potentially misleading dynamic) was unbelievable. He wouldn’t need to continue it for the whole season to great value as there’s room for a fair bit of regression - up to a point per game.

    As it is he’s fairly comfortably ahead of Robbo on the value table and Wolves “underperformed” for a long old period. Even if Robbo hit his “maximum” of 210 from 2018/18 Doherty would only need another 13 points to equal him for value. I see Doherty being closer to doing that than Robbo

    Robbo 210 at 7 = Doherty 180 at 6

    In any event I’m thinking money saved on Vinagre is very conservative - lots of other ways to get cs at the back.

    1. ClassiX
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Surely this equation only works if the 1m saving gets you 30 points elsewhere? 30 points per million is actually a VERY good return. For example, at 12m, Salah would need to score 360 points to achieve 30 points per million...

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Fair point

        Actually I’m doubting there’ll be 30 points in it. The discrepancy was much lower last time at 14 points. I suspect that will be similar next time. Doherty has imo as much room for improvement as Robbo

        Also I’m looking here at week 1 budgets only. I’d intend to get a power defence from around week 12 say when budget was bigger. On that scheme of things the loss would be around 10 points in a third of the season - and yes I do think a million can make that up.

        1. ClassiX
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Yup - your predicted point differential between the 2 is the big factor here. Ignoring possible injuries, I think Doh may come close to matching Robbo, personally.

        2. KGFC
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I don't see any reason why both cannot improve on their tally. At the end of the season you want a player that has scored a higher absolute points. I's argue that comparing them to their counterparts in MID & FWD position, there is a strong case to get both Robbo & Doh. No one at the 7.0 price point from at MID is even going to come closer to 180. I'm look at value from that point of view. Just my thoughts, could be wrong 🙂

          1. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Value over a complete season is a point of reference for me only really.

            Quite see the argument that premiums should be a long term hold but 3 premiums at the back just doesn’t suit my game style. I’ll need some of that cash up front somewhere. The extra 3 million from Doherty Vinagre over VVD Robbo is what I need to keep me happy 🙂

            1. KGFC
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              At the end of the day, what's the use of Robbo or TAA if you aren't happy :). Cheers and GL!

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Both teams underperformed early in the season - Wolves had fewer clean sheets, partly due to adjusting to EL commitments and Pool had the Gomez/Alisson injuries. Assuming neither are factors this time, I can see both claiming even more CS. That's why I've packed my defence with 5 from both clubs. I think both are value and would make a case for having both and making savings elsewhere.

    3. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Double up on wolves Defense is also an option mate.
      Availability of Vinaigre is making us overlook Doherty a bit yes .....

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I’ve got both right now hopefully a set and forget def of Taa/robbo/doh does mean sacrifices elsewhere of course

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah

      2. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Very much looking at that

        Haven’t crunched numbers but I’m wondering whether the best value double up comes in at 10.5 and not 14.5.

        If I roll with multiple 4.5 at the back then benching Vinagre consistently should not be a major issue

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Well if Vinagre was Boly, you wouldn't consider benching him. You're only thinking that way because of his price. Once you've got him, count your blessings and nail him in - except for those few games against top opposition.

          1. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Yes and no

            Wolves aren’t Liverpool. There must be a chance that last season was an outlier. The defence is good but regression to 2918/19 tight defence that always conceded one irritating one can’t be ruled out.

            2 or 3 4.5s allows for the possibility of fielding him as you would a Burnley defender say.

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Wolves are a well drilled team knowing their limitations and working according to it. I don't see any reason apart from another big injury to change their overall plan tbh

        2. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah
          I'm looking for 4 atb atm

      3. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Seen you’ve been targeting Robbo - is that “fixed”? I was too but now Doh has moved ahead on the priority list for me.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I couldn't quite manage to go the full whack; I downgraded Robbo to Gomez, saving 1.5 in a defence that's still set me back 30m. Got VVD and Doherty though.

          1. Stockport Hatter
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            30m in defence?! I feel we always start with that plan then end up ripping it up or early WC'ing to fix it as mids and forwards need bringing in who are on fire.

          2. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Interesting

            I’ve been wondering about 5.5s. One key strategy for me this season is to minimise defensive transfers. The benefit of multiple 4.5s early for me is that it allows a little flex - possible to get one wrong un but still field a tidy defence.

            Tricky to do that with 5.5 as it is a “committed” selection. But if Arsenal fly early I’m thinking Tierney may be very tempting

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              To minimise defensive transfers having those big hitters is best way right ??

              We can trust them to do better nonetheless

              1. pingissimus
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                That’s my thinking

                I’m also being real careful with my mid price boys - nearly all my bad - as opposed to wrong in the event - transfers involved them

    4. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'm currently considering doubling up liv defence or wolves defence.

      Most probably going with the latter

    5. FFSbet.com
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yes went with him and it much better for team balance.

  4. Srv210
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Is there any pre season games planned for Man City ,just wanted to get any information about Aguero ,is he replaced by jesus now or still best choice striker for pep?

    1. ClassiX
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Kun is getting a bit older, so I think Pep will be happier to rotate more this year. He'll choose the striker who best fits his setup for whichever opponent he is facing. Probably manage minutes more, as well.

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      No announcement yet

    3. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      He's definitely not replaced, he's still easily the better striker. He's just been injured (and may still be for GW1). They will share too much time though which puts me off.

  5. Klopp's Kids
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    High ownership FC.

    Ryan 4.0
    TAA Doherty Vinagre Taylor Dallas
    Salah De Bruyne Fernandes Ziyech Greenwood
    Mitrovic 4.5 4.5

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Looks good in most parts but you'd be badly stung up top if Mitro is injured or dries up.

      1. Klopp's Kids
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Maybe Adams or Bamford could replace him? But yeah. Owning a 6.5M striker like Antonio fills me with more assurance. More options to change too.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I think the better way is either 2 mid-price strikers, eg convert a 4.5 to Adams (6m) or go sub-premium for a more reliable striker like Jimenez (8.5)

        2. The FPL Units
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I think I would rather have Ayew to begin with and see how Mitro goes.

    2. Offs!de
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Good team. But the fixtures will decide how good it is!

    3. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Looks very decent. Better create a dead team with this and see how it goes by season end

  6. OPTA FPL
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Watching Ziyech highlight on YouTube I think he will flop at EPL...

    1. ClassiX
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Reasons?

      1. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Tadic all over again

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I've no idea but you can edit a youtube to make it look like anything.

      1. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yes and everyone look very good on youtube even Lingaard
        But watching Ziyech I dont think he is good at EPL

    3. FPL Pillars
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks for the in-depth analysis on this for sure, appreciate it.

    4. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I watched Hleb YouTube video before he arrived at Arsenal and was really impressed. The rest, like they said, was history..

  7. The Hunt
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    What price do you reckon Lewandowski would be if he signed for Chelsea? 11.5m?

    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      13

    2. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Messi for 13.5 would be better option 😉

  8. OPTA FPL
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    A or B should score more in your opinion?

    A. Fernandes + Antonio
    B. Martial + Jimenez

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

      1. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks, only concern is Martial fitness issue...

        1. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          That's what FTs/WC is for, easy switch to Ings/Werner/Jesus/Richarlison if required

    2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

    3. Soto Ayam
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Hard to call. B

  9. Vamos Los Celeste
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Rmbft
    Martinez
    TAA Gomez Doherty Vinagre 4.0
    Auba KDB Bruno Jota M.Pereira
    Ings 4.5*2

    1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I can’t see Pereira in the game?

      1. Vamos Los Celeste
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        According to rumours he s a 6.0 mid

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Jota slow starter so go down to Soucek and 4.5 up to Mitro. Not bad then.

  10. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Morning guys, think I’m going for this 5-4-1 with a starting 4.0 defender - hoping for a Lundstram to pop up early on!

    Ryan
    TAA | VVD | Doherty | Lowton | Mitchell
    Salah | KdB | Bruno | Soucek
    Kane

    Button | Stephens | Davis | Wickham

    Thoughts?

    1. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      It’s a fixture dependent strategy

    2. Soto Ayam
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Could be gold if Mitchell works out, but it's risky

      1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah, hoping Mitchell or Ferguson nail down a place, if not and there’s some rotation worst case scenario a 2 pointer from Stephens coming on here and there

    3. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Think Vaptain Vardy might get a better team out 🙂 Wouldn’t need Palace defence

    4. Stockport Hatter
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      If I was having 1 striker it wouldn't be Kane. No offence but I wouldn't trust Mourinho who will have him playing defensive midfielder for half the season!

  11. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Mitro has higher ownership than salah and mane is less than 10%

    Hasn’t mane outscored salah in the last 2 seasons till about nov

    1. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      FPL are “forcing” people to choose between Mo and Mane and KdB and Sterling by putting them at identical prices. My first thought when prices came out was this was intentional. The double ups and triple ups on the big 2 are awkward now. Much easier to pull off last season - more team variety

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Right, and Mitro is simply the best option in the budget, 6m and under range. Most prople are prioritizing midfield and even defence over their forward line.

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      That Sterling is below 10% is the real jaw dropper. He ended the season as the must have premium - no price increase since then

      1. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Indeed - hasn’t been in my side once funnily enough

    3. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      We'll see real Ownership after fixtures come out.

      1. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Totally agree - all this tinkering is pointless lol

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          No it’s not. It’s fun and fun is important 🙂

          1. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            And no minus 4s and minus 8s - best time of the season.

        2. Wild Card this!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Tinkering is never pointless 😉
          Good exercise.

        3. Goodison Gladiators
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I've got another 9 hours of work, I need more tinkering to keep sane

  12. HurriKane
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Case for Stuart Armstrong (5.5). I think he's the best budget midfielder to own hands down. Hear me out

    - Involved in 9 goals in his last 12 pl starts.

    - 8 of those returns has come in 8 separate matches highlighting his consistency.

    His post lockdown underlying stats are great as well. (He started 7/9 games, 575 of total 810 minutes).

    For ≤6.0 MIDs post lockdown:

    - 1st For goal involvement (5)
    - 2nd for Shots on target (8)
    - 3rd for Chances (open play)
    - 2nd for mins/chance (38')

    - Southampton's form after restart was excellent. Only the Top 4 teams scored more goals & registered more shots on target than
    Southampton, while only MCI, MUN, TOT & WOL conceded less goals than Saints.

    He's getting into very central shooting areas and nearly all of his shots are just in front or inside pen area. Check out heat map of his total shots after restart (https://twitter.com/FPLmate38/status/1295456927460265984)

    Agree? Absolute bargain at 5.5m

    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      How about his xG in that period?

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      He's not fixture dependent either, if you check who he returned against. Don't make a song and dance about him though, others might see. 😆

      1. HurriKane
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Sure. 😉

    3. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      He's in my draft, but I'm awaiting fixtures. I have a spot locked in for a 5.5 midfielder and if the opening fixtures roll his way, he's in. But there are alternatives. I can always start with somelike ASM and move to Armstrong when fixtures open up.

      1. Wild Card this!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I'm keeping my eye on that Pereira guy from WBA...he might come good but is gamble of course.

      2. HurriKane
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Or you could start with Armstrong if fixtures are decent and switch to ASM if the punt fails

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          As I say, it depends on fixtures. My draft currently has Armstrong and a 5m Ritchie.

          1. how many hits?!!
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            like the Ritchie pick - I have him and think he will get a few more pens courtesy of ASM this season...

    4. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks, appreciate this. At 5.5 he's too good to pass up on, currently in my team so I can fund the higher priced forwards and midfielders.

    5. Top 210 Club
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Bit worried, didn't Adam's come in when Armstrong was inj and outperform Ings in last 4 gws? Will Adam's retain his place over Armstrong?

  13. WVA
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    The players with the best value that should be in everyone's squad to start with?

    Vinagre - Starting wing back for Wolves while Jonny out
    One or two of TAA Robbo VVD - 200 points for 7.5 and under
    Soucek - Fantastic stats and underpriced for box to box mid
    Greenwood - Could easily get 20 goals
    Jimenez

    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Greenwood easily get 20 goals???

      1. WVA
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        You missed out the important word, could! Scored 10 in 1300 minutes last season!

      2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        He got 10 in 1300 minutes tbf

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Believe it or not, they're all locked into my draft already.

    3. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ayling or Dallas at 4.5 may be great value. I prefer Dallas if he is pushed upfield as sometimes happens.
      If Antonio keeps up his scoring run, 6.5 looks good value.

    4. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Good list

      I’d add Doherty - some risk involved if it means no Robbo
      but he’s underpriced imo and has shown a 90 point ceiling in just over a third of the season.

  14. WVA
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    FFS 0.5 of the perfect team!?

    Ryan
    TAA VVD Vinagre Taylor
    Salah KDB Fernandes Greenwood
    Jimenez Mitrovic
    Nyland Stephens Ferguson Davis

    1. WVA
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Apologies just seen it, Mitro out, Soucek in!

    2. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Lucky you...I'm at least 50 Mil short of Perfect Team.

    3. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Vvd to Laporte/Doherty

    4. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      At a push, just start whichever 4.0 Palace FB is likely to play, or get Doc instead of VVD.

    5. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Let's compare, shall we?

      Martinez (or other 4.5), Nyland
      TAA, VVD, Gomez, Doherty, Vinagre
      KDB, Greenwood, Armstrong, Ritchie, Soucek
      Werner, Jimenez, Ings

      Prepared to wait on other Manc assets - see how fresh they are.

      1. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        4.5 4.0
        Taa ayling/Taylor vinagre (ferg)
        Kdb mane greenwood foden soucek
        Jimi Werner 4.5

      2. WVA
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Very nice indeed, I've got Salah and Bruno though. You'll want to change those mid priced mids and Werner is a wait and see for me. Really hope Martinez is nailed!

        4.5 Nyland
        TAA VVD Vinagre Taylor
        Salah KDB Fernandes Greenwood Soucek
        Jimenez

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          The 5.5-5m mids are completely interchangable depending on form and fixtures. A slight tweak to the front 3 could bring in Martial, or reduce one to fodder to get a second premium mid.

      3. Stockport Hatter
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Andy, what is your planned formation there?

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Intended to be completely flexible - all 15 players are likely to be active. GW1 will be 5-2-3 if KDB and Greenwood sit it out. When Wolves have a heavy fixture it'll be 3-4-3. Mostly the back 5 play. It isn't intended to be fixed as I will integrate more City and United players but I'm taking a gradual approach to that.

    6. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      No team with Ryan in goal can be called perfect - no matter the circs 🙂

      Nice - have tried something almost identical but with Doh over VVD. Weak point for me is Mitro because there’s so little to swap him to when he turns out to be Mitro. Much fewer options in that range than last season right now

      1. WVA
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yes apologies, see above got rid of Mitro for Soucek

      2. WVA
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Ryan will be Martinez if he's nailed.

    7. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      If the leaked fixtures are correct swap Mitro for Leeds striker

  15. Lanley Staurel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Seen a few £4.0m defenders being mooted. Which are fake news and which are the real thing?
    Bernardo at Brighton
    Douglas at Leeds
    Ferguson at Palace
    Braithwaite at Everton

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      2 at Palace - Mitchell as well.

      Just can't know at the moment - will need to monitor injuries and pre-season friendlies.

    2. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'll tell you gw1

      1. Lanley Staurel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Ah ha I see what you did there

  16. KGFC
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    How's this for a draft?

    Ryan (another 4.5m)
    TAA Robbo Doh Taylor 4.0
    Salah KDB Greenwood Soucek 4.5
    Jimmy Ings 4.5

    Leaves me with 0.5ITB for any changes once the season rolls!

    1. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I like it

      1. KGFC
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks!!

  17. Whiskerz
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Heavy defense draft.

    Ryan . 4.0
    TAA . VVD . Doherty . Taylor . 4.0
    KDB . Bruno . Greenwood . ASM . 4.5
    Jiminez . Werner . 4.5

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      That's not heavy defence! It's nicely balanced though. 9/10

    2. Goodison Gladiators
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      When Salah has the first easy home game you'll feel sick watching it. Hes the number 1 pick in mid

  18. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Ryan
    TAA Vinagre Taylor
    Salah KDB Bruno Ziyech Soucek
    Martial Mitro

    (4.0 KWP Ferguson 4.5)

    Quite like this setup. Although there's a huge temptation to downgrade one of the premium attackers and use the money to get one of Robbo/VVD/Doherty if Pool or Wolves have great fixtures.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I like it a lot although I'd want to see Ziyeck before committing. It could be that there's too much money in midfield; I would convert Z into a 5.5 in order to convert 4m Fergie to VVD.

  19. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Is Bruno worth 10.5 - I’m not sure

    I expect significant regression, had Utd not been given all those pens it’d be a somewhat different position- question is with VAR will they just keep in coming?!

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      United's counter-attacking speedster style will continue to draw a lot of penalties.

  20. Christina.
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    All these teams will change once the fixtures are out.

    1. KUN_DE_BRU_YNE
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      As always every season,any leaked lineups till ?

  21. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    McC/Nyland
    tAA/VVD/Doh/Vinaigre/Mitchell
    Bruno/KDB/Salah/Greenwood/Soucek
    Mitrovic/Adams/Davis

    Imo every single player in this team is kindly priced at worst and massively underpriced at best. Good value and several captain choices. Only Adams is a bit of a punt but I could change him and Soucek to Bamford and 5.5 for increased nailedness and the team has a 4.5 on the bench too in case of the rare rotation on someone.

  22. Chelsea91
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Mc Carthy,Martin
    Taa,Vinagre,Tierney,Taylor,Ferguson
    Bruno,KDB,Salah,Ziyech,Adama
    Mitro,Antonio,Davies

    Waiting for fixtures to be out.

  23. Easy Cheesy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Aside from lund did any £4m increase significantly in value last year? Just wondering whether there is enough upside in choosing a £4m (Robinson/ johnson)versus a taylor/ vinagre/ dallas/ lamptey

    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      play for points not price

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Well there's the half straight off, then the rise if they do become 1st choice, like maybe Fergie at Palace in for Wardy, maybe.

    3. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      No. Lund was an anomaly. Of the other 4m defenders who played a few games, Rico got himself relegated. You generally get a 4m as a placeholder, either he covers a short-term injury crisis and/or you're waiting for a 4,5 bandwagon to leap on.

      1. Easy Cheesy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks. Was contemplating two 4m players to hopefully catch one w money itb to go to a 4.5m on the other. Wastes a transfer so might be over thinking

    4. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Think Kelly rose by 0.4 when he was a fixture in the side and good value. That cleared a tidy 0.2 if you sold when fixtures turned. Not Lord territory of course but tidy work for both points and cash itb

      Same may apply to Rico but significant difference between Palace and Bournemouth defence

      1. Easy Cheesy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks. Might set up w the £4.5m certain starters and downgrade if great value (and no other fires etc). Was thinking about 2 x £4m to try and catch one and then keep £0.5m itb to upgrade if they don’t both play

  24. Rasping Drive
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I think I am settled on my squad (which I will then rip up after fixtures are released 😀 ); final choice below:

    A: Heaton, Justin, Salah, Mitrovic
    B: Lloris, VVD, Foden, Jimenez

    Which combination looks better?

  25. Indpush
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Ryan and 4.0

    TAA, Taylor, Vinagre, Struijk, Ferguson

    Greenwood, Bruno, Salah, Klich, Soucek

    Werner, Jimi, Ings

  26. Indpush
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Has anyone mentioned that in the scoring area of the app they have been docked one point and appear to be starting the game with a minus 1, like mine does?

  27. Trovsmash
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Has anyone done a mock fpl draft yet? if so did you record the data?

  28. Finbo
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Whats the deal with auba being classified as a midfielder.

    Even at his price I don't see him in any drafts and he was first on my team lol.

  29. JIC
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Ok - fixture dependent but how is this looking?

    Ryan/McCarthy
    Diop/Vinagre/Lamptey/C.Taylor/Williams
    Salah/KDB/Auba/JWP/Soucek
    Ings/Jimi/Austin

  30. Teem Puki
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    What do you think about my team. Any suggested changes?

    Ederson

    VVD, Vinagre, Cancelo, TAA
    Auba, KDB,Jota, Pablo Hanandez

    Mitro, Werner

    Subs (Nyland GK, Cavaleiro, Davies,