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Can Werner offer FPL value compared to Chelsea midfielders in 2020/21?

Timo Werner (£9.5m) has the potential to offer Fantasy Premier League managers value during his debut campaign in English football.

The German striker arrives at Chelsea as one of the most sought-after in Europe and, if he were to replicate his RB Leipzig form of recent seasons, could make a mockery of his initial £9.5m price-tag.

With goals and assists a real possibility in 2020/21, Fantasy managers should certainly keep an eye on Werner.

We have examined his 2019/20 exploits to assess whether or not he can deliver on that promise, and compete with new colleagues Christian Pulisic (£8.5m) and Hakim Ziyech (£8.0m) for a place in FPL squads.

READ MORE: Our Scout Report on Chelsea midfielder Hakim Ziyech

The History and Statistics

Werner joins Frank Lampard’s evolving Chelsea squad with a wealth of goal-scoring experience that not many players can boast at the age of 24.

This is a man who made 100 Bundesliga appearances before he hit 21 before going on to light up the Champions League too.

But for all his explosive potential as a complete forward, ‘Turbo Timo’ started his professional career as a left-winger in the youth setup at local club VfB Stuttgart.

During his three full seasons with Die Roten, between 2013 and 2016, he mustered just 13 goals in 95 senior Bundesliga appearances.

Despite earning a reputation for acceleration and pace, Werner was initially accused of being a selfish player who did not gel particularly well with those around him.

As a result, his quickness in the final third only yielded Werner nine assists for Stuttgart during those three years as a senior player in Baden-Württemberg.

However, a €10 million move to newly-promoted RasenBallsport Leipzig in 2016 propelled Werner into the coveted player he is today.

It was in Saxony that the player was converted to a striker, retaining a tendency to drift into positions on the left-hand side of the field but adding a ruthless accuracy to his game and increased awareness of how to link-up with those around him.

That unique style of play worked wonders for Werner and Leipzig as he scored 21 goals in his new role, the most of any German in the Bundesliga in 2016/17, adding five assists.

That contribution led to the newly-promoted club finishing second and qualifying for the Champions League for the first time in their relatively short history.

Across the continent’s elite competition and the Europa League, Werner netted seven times in 11 appearances during 2017/18, adding another 13 goals and seven assists in the Bundesliga. After two years of impressing on home soil, he was called up to the German national team and has since found the net 11 times in 29 caps for Die Mannschaft.

In 2018/19, Werner started displaying his explosive potential. Reaching 10 goals for the campaign on December 16, it meant that every time he scored so far that season, he went on to complete a brace. Perhaps an interesting thing to look out for in the Premier League. Could it suggest a likeness to Harry Kane‘s (£10.5m) trademark feast-or-famine approach? Only time will tell.

It took the forward until August 2019 to get his first Bundesliga hat-trick, racked up in a 3-1 win at Borussia Mönchengladbach. But he did not have to wait long for his second, netting three times in an 8-0 win over Mainz, adding three assists in the same match.

Those contributions helped Werner to his best-ever Bundesliga campaign, ending 2019/20 with 28 goals and eight assists in 33 starts and one substitute appearance. Robert Lewandowski’s 34-goal haul was the only thing that stood between him and the Golden Boot award.

As a result, Liverpool, Manchester United and Bayern Munich were all heavily interested in Werner, Chelsea turning heads by eventually winning the race for his signature.

Leaving Leipzig with 78 goals in 127 Bundesliga appearances, the German international arrives at Stamford Bridge as the complete forward, well-known for his explosive pace, accurate finishing and ability to play team-mates through on goal with his capability in wide areas.

Werner has also earned a strong reputation for penalty-taking, dispatching 13 competitive spot-kicks from a possible 16 so far, netting each one awarded to him since October 2018, the date of his last miss.

Comparisons

2019-20Mins per shotMins per shot in the boxMins per shot on targetMins per key pass
Tammy Abraham25.228.163.5105.8
Olivier Giroud25.629.452.6124.9
Mason Mount36.879.899.056.3
Christian Pulisic27.432.669.057.5
Timo Werner *22.828.443.953
Hakim Ziyech **18.255.852.220.8

The Prospects

Werner is likely to fill a void in Chelsea’s attack, notably a centre-forward who can be trusted to link well with the rest of the front-three as well as delivering goals with ruthless regularity.

As you can see from the comparisons referenced above, the German compared favourably to Tammy Abraham (£7.5m) and Olivier Giroud (£7.0m) in 2019/20 when it came to goal threat.

Remembering, of course, that these numbers were not recorded in the Premier League, Werner shot more frequently last season than Chelsea’s two centre-forwards.

While there was not much to separate the trio for minutes per shot in the box (Abraham: 28.1 | Werner: 28.4 | Giroud: 29.4), Werner was the clear winner when it came to accuracy.

Well-known around Europe’s top leagues for composure in front of goal, Werner’s penchant for a shot on target will go a long way to improve on what Abraham and Giroud offered last season.

As you can see from the comparisons above, the German international registered an accurate attempt on goal every 43.9 minutes in the Bundesliga. By comparison, Abraham managed one over 63.5 minutes and Giroud was even further behind on 52.6.

Werner’s shots were often of high quality too. In 2019/20 he recorded an expected goals per 90 figure of 0.62. Lewandowski and Ciro Immobile were the only players across the Premier League, Bundesliga, Serie A and Ligue 1 to record a better score there.

We often apply something of a dampener on players coming to England’s top-flight from overseas, as the standard of football is generally higher across the division compared to others. However, in Werner’s case, it is harder to discuss this mitigating factor as we know the player is capable of starring in the Champions League and has already scored against Premier League defences.

Werner’s skill-set is also something that has been somewhat lacking from Chelsea’s attacking under Lampard. While he does know how to use his pace to burst away from a chasing defence, 2019/20 has seen Werner develop an excellent understanding of how to find space against deep blocks – something that Chelsea have struggled to break down under Lampard. The former Leipzig man has often been seen making runs across opposing defences, starting from an initially offside position, arriving in space in front of them, ready to receive the ball and turn, either to pass or shoot.

With Werner likely to improve Chelsea’s goal-scoring capabilities in 2020/21, his arrival is also good news for the attacking assets around him in terms of assists.

When Lampard has no injury concerns, Pulisic and Ziyech are the most likely to flank the German, the latter likely to be the chief beneficiary of Werner’s goal threat. The combination of both players could be exceptionally deadly when you consider how frequently Ziyech created chances last season and how often Werner landed a shot on target.

However, we should also consider the German’s own assist potential. As you can see from the table above, Werner was infinitely more creative than Giroud and Abraham in 2019/20.

He played a key pass every 53 minutes in his final Bundesliga campaign, which was also superior to Pulisic and Mason Mount (£7.0m) as well as Chelsea’s existing forwards.

Combining the strong goal threat, potential for assists and an important role in penalties (now that Willian (£8.0m) has departed and Jorginho (£5.0m) is out of favour), there is every reason to believe that Werner can earn his £9.5m price-tag and then some. Those comparing him with Pulisic and Ziyech will notice that the extra £1.0m/£1.5m is effectively spent on a greater chance of goals and a hand in penalties. That might be too much to pay for some, but if Werner does hit the ground running in the Premier League, he is sure to build up ownership quickly as a potential captain option.

There are Fantasy managers who have expressed concern about the German’s positioning, considering he is capable of playing on the left flank of attacking midfield or a front-three. Pulisic does appear rather nailed-on on that side of the Chelsea team so Werner is probably only going to play there if Lampard’s wider options are completely depleted. Do not forget that Kai Havertz could also be in the squad by the start of 2020/21 so it does seem unlikely that a wide role will be Werner’s regular assignment under Lampard. 

That said, as we already mentioned earlier on, he does still have a tendency to drift to the left. It will be interesting to see what impact this will have on the Chelsea team – and Fantasy managers watching on.

Could it initially cause some issues for Chelsea if he were to drift out of his furrow and tread on Pulisic’s toes and leave the team lacking its spearhead? This is certainly something Lampard will have to look out for.

By contrast, such runs could still have some advantageous effects from a Fantasy perspective with the right input from the Chelsea boss. Werner drifting left could result in a dovetail effect with Pulisic, whereby he drifts into the open space unmarked, not unlike the relationship between Anthony Martial (£9.0m) and Marcus Rashford (£9.5m). That could bode well for the American midfield asset, who is, of course, £1.0m cheaper than Werner.

Either way, Fantasy managers must remember that these runs from Werner have not massively diminished his activity in the penalty box, such are the effectiveness of his pace and movement. Even though he often drifts left, Werner averaged 6.6 touches in the opposition box per 90 in 2019/20. For some context, Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) was the busiest Premier League forward in the penalty area last season, registering 231 touches there (best among forwards), working out at 6.77 per 90.

READ MORE: Our Scout Report on Chelsea midfielder Hakim Ziyech

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1,237 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Dr Van Nostrand
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Herr Werner is an absolute steal at 9.5. World class talent in an attacking team. Reckon he'll be the top scoring striker

    1. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      14/1 best odds for the Golden Boot this year - Kane (7/1) and Aguero (15/2) are the only FPL forwards with shorter odds - others close are Vardy (18/1), Jesus and Martial (both 20/1), Ings (22/1), Jimenez (25/1).

      1. Arteta
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        How on Earth aren't Aubameyang, Salah and Mané is the mix is beyond me.

        1. Sz21
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Well they are all mids now. Get with it.

        2. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
          • 6 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          These odds are for FPL forwards only.

          Auba and Salah 6/1
          Sterling 14/1
          Mane 16/1
          Rashford 20/1

          1. Arteta
            • 5 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            Pardon me! Tongue worked faster than brain...

    2. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Good write-up. I'm breaking my rule no no newbies in my starting squad to include him - and maye captain him GW1 if no Mancs line up.

  2. unlethal
    • 4 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Thoughts on Ward-Prowse as an option?

    1. Sune
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      He is in my team for now.

    2. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      I like him, looks the best option at that price for me.

    3. aapoman
      • 7 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      If M Pereira comes at the same price think I prefer him over JWP

  3. Marmalade Forest
    • 3 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Despite the same players popping up again and again in the RMTs, isn’t it funny how you can look at one and think “How is that only 100m? It looks amazing, surely that costs 103” and then look at another one and think “That’s awful, have they got 3m ITB?”

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      That's usually a sign that a team is good - when you look at it and go: how can they afford that?

      At least every time I look at an RMT I look for that reaction. If I get that feeling it's usually because I really like the team.

  4. I Member
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    A) Fernandes + Mitrovic
    B) Greenwood + Martial

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      A - 2 x talismans (talismen?)

    2. Stimps
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      A, due to both on pens

    3. LAMELA_AND_CONSUELA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      B better players playing in better team

  5. IRBOX ⚽
    • 3 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    How’s she looking?

    McCarty
    TAA Robbo Doherty
    Salah KDB Greenwood Foden ASM
    Martial Mitrovic

    Nyland Taylor Ferguson Davis

    1. I Member
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Solid.

    2. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Lovely stuff - Greenwood/Foden could be amazing.

    3. Little Red Lacazette
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Looks noice.

    4. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      A lot riding on Greenwood + Foden to deliver like 9.0m assets. But if they do, this draft is a gem.

    5. Whiskerz
      • 7 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      I'm not sold on robbo vs VVD. And im liking how my team looks without salah and the funds spread around

    6. Goonsquad245
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Don’t like foden to start the season, and I think Martial is the worst value of the 4 viable united players (but still decent value in his own right!).

      Also don’t get the love for ASM, but for 5.5 it’s meh.

    7. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Template.

  6. Little Red Lacazette
    • 4 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Planning to take a risk on both Ziyech and Werner fixtures permitting.

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      GL - no Chelsea for me (yet)

    2. Dr Van Nostrand
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Deffo Werner but will wait on Ziyech. Think he'll need a bit more time and has a bit more competition.

  7. SADIO SANÉ
    • 5 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    can't work out if Ziyech and Werner are being overrated, or if they are going to be amazing 😀

    1. SADIO SANÉ
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      either way, they shouldn't cost more than Greenwood and Martial though I don't think

    2. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Chelsea are an attacking team anyway and I think these two just improves them massively, probably need at least one of Werner/Ziyech/Pulisic in our teams.

  8. Pep Roulette
    • 3 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Not much love for Bamford at 5.5. Why?

    1. Bubz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Guy can't hit a barn door

    2. Siggy in the Middle
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Awful finishing

    3. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Might the best current option at that price, but I just don’t think he’s very good.

    4. Gingerman
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Needs 100 chances to score 1, but if they don't sign someone else I'll prob be getting him in as backup.

      • Pep Roulette
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Cheers everyone

      • Marmalade Forest
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Funny isn’t it?
        Loads of chances and shots in the box last season.
        Loads off target/not enough goals.

        Was he performing below par, or is he not good enough?

      • LAMELA_AND_CONSUELA
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        I don't think that he is better option than 4,5 defender. He scored only 16 in last season in Championship

        1. Won't sleep till after…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Worth also remembering that Bamford struggled in the Premier League before in his loan spells at Burnley, Palace and Middlesbrough. Though he could have improved since.

      • Squib
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        According to stats: 33 big chances missed in Championship last year. Not in top 5 goalscorers in second tier either.

    5. LangerznMash
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      I would have happily paid £19.0m for the pair of Ziyech and Werner.
      The fact that you can get them for just £17.5m is an absolute steal.

      1. A Kun & Mateta
        • 7 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Chelsea will have to gel with a lot of new assets but could out score Liverpool so I'm very interested in Timo and the big Z. Will monitor friendlies.

        1. Bobby Digital
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Ziyech is pretty small...

          1. Herman Toothrot
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            Taller than Aguero fwiw

            1. Herman Toothrot
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              And Pulisic

              1. Herman Toothrot
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                6 months, 10 days ago

                And Mount

      2. Klaren
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Chelsea scored 69 last season, 16 less than Liverpool. They have significantly improved their attackers so you’d expect them to get closer to Liverpool and Ziyech/Werner is likely to have a high % involvement on those. So I agree with you, they look like great bargains as things stand.

    6. farmerfat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      First draft feeling good 3-5-2 in play.

      Mccarthy
      TAA Doherty Tierney
      Salah Auba Foden ASM Greenwood
      Werner Antonio

      Martin Ferguson Dallas Davis

      Nice or not nice?

      1. liverpool01
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Bench is not very strong if Foden is benched

      2. Gingerman
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Like the def

        • built_this_city
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          threw up when i saw that bench

        • Marmalade Forest
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Basically the same as Irbox above isn’t it?

      3. I Member
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Will depend on the fixtures but I'm becoming more and more convinced on double Liverpool defence. Doesn't mean I won't pick Salah, him vs Auba is a separate decision, but if we're expecting Liverpool to have the best defence only owning one of them probably won't be great for OR.

        1. jtreble
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          “... only owning one of them probably won't be great for OR ...”. I would expect dual LIV D ownership to be around 10%. :).

        2. KGFC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Already doubling up on TAA + Robbo. I think the 0.5 extra for Robbo vs VVD is worth the attacking potential.

      4. liverpool01
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Repost

        Mccarthy
        Taa, Saliba, Taylor, Doherty
        Salah, Auba, Kdb, Greenwood
        Mitrovic, Antonio

        Button, Stephens, Ferguson, Davis

        Thinking of swapping Auba and Antonio to Son+Werner or should I hold?

        Thanks

        1. Gazza2000
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Wait for the fixtures to come out and then start again

      5. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        What is going on with the screen resolution of the website?

        Looks weird in desktop. Articles don't fill the screen anymore.

        Members area looks weird on mobile. The default view is zoomed in and not the actual size.

        Looks like they have been trying to make the site more mobile friendly and balls'd it all up.

        1. Blueberg
          • 5 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          It looks alright to me (in chrome).

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            I'm in chrome, too. The sizings are completely off.

        2. The Mighty One
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          I’m having the same problem!

      6. Siggy in the Middle
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        I really like Aguero at 10.5 but the improvements I can make by swapping him for Wood are insane. Ziyech to Bruno and Taylor to Gomez. Could also do Ayling to Shaw with the remaining 0.5.This would be a 4 ATB with two Liverpool, one Wolves, and one United, all great defences. Having Bruno would be great too.

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Kun not fit and fixture dependent. Wood.

      7. T.Henry14
        • 7 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        I'm reserved for now. New league and Tammy&Giroud as a competition.
        I hope that the friendly-games will remove the doubts.

        1. Dr Van Nostrand
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Suit yourself. New leagues don't matter for world class talent. Both Salah and Auba smashed it from the get-go to the surprise of most in this country. Werner is up there with them. He averages nearly a goal a game for Germany! And has assists in his locker.

          1. T.Henry14
            • 7 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            I don't like to take risks when I have Martial for 0.5 cheaper, or Ings&Jimenez for 1.0m. Or Kane for 10.5

            I think, for the start of the season, better options are Martial + 0.5, Ings&Jimenez + 1.0mill or premium option like Kane.

            0.5 or 1.0 could be big when different between 7.5/8.0 mids and 8.5/9.0 mids are between Bergwijn, Bernardo, Pogba, Greenwood, Alli, Ziyech, Willian... and Son, Pulisic, Mahrez.

            1. The Mighty One
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              That’s also why most of us our WC in ~GW3. I’m trying to get longterm players from the start.

              1. Dr Van Nostrand
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 5 Years
                6 months, 10 days ago

                Exactly for the first team I somehow managed to hold off on wasting my WC early. Lasted until Dec and was a boon. Especially useful to keep longer this year with the tighter schedule

                1. The Mighty One
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  6 months, 10 days ago

                  Totally agree! I played my first WC last year in the last possible week (Xmas) and it was awesome. I had always used it by GW4 in the past. Therefore I'm trying to get some of the truly solid players (such as VVD) such that a -4 here and there can help me save the WC.

            2. Dr Van Nostrand
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              Werner is a better talent than all of them and in a very attacking team. Should be on pens too unlike Martial and less injury prone

      8. searle75961
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Anyone think Werner will be on pens as well??

        1. Gregor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 11 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Probably yeah.

        2. LAMELA_AND_CONSUELA
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          I think he will

      9. baggs
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        When do we get the season ticker? Can’t do much without it

        1. Gregor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 11 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          When the fixtures come out?

          1. searle75961
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            6 months, 10 days ago

            21st

            1. Gregor
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 11 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              There are rumours it might be tomorrow now.

      10. Stimps
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        How's she looking?

        McCarthy
        TAA Taylor Vinagre
        Salah KDB Ziyech Greenwood Foden
        Werner Mitrovic

        4.0 Connolly Ayling Ferguson

        1. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Template.

        2. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Connolly? If playing 352 I'd rather 4.5 him and beef up Ferguson.

        3. pokern1nja09
          • 7 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Looks nice. Will be interested to see if Foden/Greenwoood can step it up and get close to matching KDB/Bruno

      11. Pep Roulette
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Foden or Greenwood? And why?

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Greenwood - nailed if a new right winger doesn't arrive.

        2. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Assuming United don't get Sancho or anyone, Greenwood should see far more pitchtime.

        3. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
          • 6 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Greenwood if they don't sign anyone else as Gollum doesn't have the IQ to know how to rotate.

        4. I Member
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Atm Greenwood. More guaranteed of starts. If they sign a RW then I'm not sure.

        5. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Dunno why you're asking - the clue's in your name!

          1. Gazza2000
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            ^ this

        6. farmerfat
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          I have both

        7. Pep Roulette
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Cheers everyone

      12. THE KING CANTONA
        • 1 Year
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Thoughts on my all out attach GW1 Draft

        (3-4-3) 0 itb.

        Ryan | [Button]
        Vinagre | KWP | CTaylor | [Dallas] | [Ferguson]
        Salah | Mahrez | Willian | Greenwood | [D Stephens]
        Werner | Martial | Kane

        1. Blueberg
          • 5 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Mahrez, greenwood and martial probably won't have games.

        2. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Mahrez?

          1. THE KING CANTONA
            • 1 Year
            6 months, 10 days ago

            • Plays on front 3.
            • One of the affordable assets to cover City spot.
            • Delivers, whenever he starts.
            • With no Dilva, expecting Bilva to play more in CM roles.

            1. Fulchester's New Centr…
              • 3 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              All true - but "whenever starts" bit issue for me (and never does anything when I have him)

        3. Our Tiny Servant
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          It’s certainly all out attack.

      13. fuzzymike
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Any thoughts on price of Mateus Pereira when added?? I'm guessing 6/6.5m based on other WBA mids. Would be great if cheaper.

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Shhh. Say his name 3 times and price goes up 0.5.

        2. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
          • 6 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Ridiculous number of assists last season.

        3. aapoman
          • 7 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Most likely 6. Hoping for a 5.5 but seems unlikely

        4. LAMELA_AND_CONSUELA
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          6,5 but you must remember that at this moment he will provide his services to such mighty and fast forwards as Austin, Zohore i Robson - Kanu:)

      14. SADIO SANÉ
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        really hope United start with a few horror fixtures, that should spice things up a bit - a lot of people have at least two of them currently

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          For this Utd, horror fixtures probably include WBA and Leeds though.

        2. FC Hakkebøf
          • 4 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          I have none lol

          1. The Mighty One
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            Me too, yet I have one in my Grav. City and Chelsea look better.

      15. FC Hakkebøf
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Thoughts on this bunch?

        Ryan
        TAA Robertson Vinagre
        Salah Auba Ziyech Soucek
        Werner Antonio Mitrovic
        ____
        Button; KWP Dallas 4.5 mid

        Full playing bench to rotate with. Easy to jump on most badwagons given how funds are spread.
        Downside is no City of course. Salah / Auba can easily become Sterling / KDB however

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Pretty good.

          Like the ord "badwagon" - I'm sure we'll see plenty of those as always.

          1. FC Hakkebøf
            • 4 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            Not intentionally haha!

        2. LAMELA_AND_CONSUELA
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Looks good, assuming that City and Utd will not play in GW1

      16. Sepp Blattered
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Obviously appreciate Fixtures not released yet but judging by end of year stats - tempted to double up on Chelsea and triple City from GW 1 attack. Thoughts?

        1. Clay Davis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Chelsea making a lot of changes. I think need to wait until preseason to see how they line-up and if anyone hits the ground running

      17. Clay Davis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        How's she looking...

        Guaita (Rodak)
        TTA, VVD, Doherty, Vinagre (Pieters)
        Salah, Fernandes, Greenwood (Soucek, Trezeguet)
        Ings, Wood, Mitrovic

        Early strategy would be to rotate Pieters/Vinagre/Soucek/Trezeguet/Mitrovic/Wood

        1. FC Hakkebøf
          • 4 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Definetely different. I think Ings' price is a bit too high. Would personally try to squeeze in Werner or Martial

          1. Clay Davis
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            I'm a United fan and not sold on Martial at 9m with reclassification as ST. Take away 17 goal points and 14 clean sheet points and he'd have scored 169pts (subject to bonus adjustments).

            Plus I'm not convinced he can play twice per week with CL commitments.

            Ings is better value imo being 0.5m cheaper, on pens, and guaranteed starter (if fit)

        2. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Well balanced. Love defence (why Pieters over Taylor?).

          Not worth including strikers in rotation though IMO

          1. Clay Davis
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            Pieters carries more goal threat

            1. Old Man
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              He's bench fodder for Burnley

      18. NoSalah'd
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Which do you prefer?
          Doherty, Rashford, Greenwood or VVD, Bruno, ASM

          1. liverpool01
            • 2 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            Doherty, Rashford, Greenwood

          2. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 3 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            2nd just

            1. NoSalah'd
                6 months, 10 days ago

                May I ask why? Do you think Bruno is worth the extra million over rashford?

                1. Fulchester's New Centr…
                  • 3 Years
                  6 months, 10 days ago

                  I do - Marcus not been quite on it since comeback from injury and Greenwood's place conditional on them not signing a right winger.

            2. Clay Davis
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              Doherty, Rashford, Greenwood. 3 big hitters as oppose to 2. ASM is 5.5m for a reason

            3. Gold Coast
              • 1 Year
              6 months, 10 days ago

              Doherty, Rashford, Greenwood

          3. Pointerlou
            • 10 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            3-5-2

            Ryan (Button)
            TAA, Vinagre, Saliba (Ayling, White)
            Auba, Fernandes, Salah, Foden, Soucek
            Mitrović, Werner (Brewster)

            So am I better with:
            Ayling & White or
            Ferguson & Dunk (for 5 if he moves to CFC)

            1. Fulchester's New Centr…
              • 3 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              Depends on what happens to White and 5.0 bench defender seems wasteful.

            2. Gold Coast
              • 1 Year
              6 months, 10 days ago

              Ayling & Ferguson with Foden to Grealish perhaps

              1. Pointerlou
                • 10 Years
                6 months, 10 days ago

                I like that idea, thanks

          4. Holteenderinthesky
            • 2 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            Mccarthy
            TAA, VVD, Vinagre
            Auba, KDB, Son, Greenwood, Ritchie
            Martial, Mitro

            4.0m Ayling/Dallas, Ferguson, Davis

            I like the balance in this. I think it's
            fairly easy for me to switch players in if others are performing.

            1. Fulchester's New Centr…
              • 3 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              Like, maybe Tony down a bit to pump up Ritchie?

              1. Holteenderinthesky
                • 2 Years
                6 months, 10 days ago

                Quite like having Martial, hoping him and Greenwood covers not having Fernandes a little. Also helps me make an easy change to bring in Werner if he starts well. Not sold on Ritchie, but normally 1 spot has to suffer a little.

          5. Gold Coast
            • 1 Year
            6 months, 10 days ago

            How’s this look?

            Pope
            TAA Robertson Vinagre
            KDB Fernandes Greenwood Grealish Soucek
            Jiminez Ings

            Nyland Ayling Ferguson Brewster

            1. Clay Davis
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              I like this, although I'd be concerned only having 1 starter (Ayling) on the bench with Greenwood being a rotation risk

              1. Gold Coast
                • 1 Year
                6 months, 10 days ago

                Agree. Will probably downgrade Pope to 4.5 (dependent on early fixtures) and keep 1.0 in the bank to upgrade Ferguson should he not be starting at Palace.

            2. Fulchester's New Centr…
              • 3 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              Pretty great if Brewster becomes a regular starter somewhere

          6. bitm2007
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            Am I right in thinking that Werner last played for RB Leipzig in June ? If so unlike the rest of the PL he's going to be well-rested for the new PL season.

            1. Clay Davis
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              Well rested or rusty. Depends how you look at it

              1. Zim0
                • 2 Years
                6 months, 10 days ago

                He's been training with Chelsea i think so wouldn't get rusty that quickly

            2. SAY MY NAME
              • 3 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              i don't know the actual date, but yeah i think he stopped playing for them once the Chelsea deal was about to be signed , which was some time ago