Pre-Season

The best budget FPL defenders for 2020/21

Our position-by-position analysis of the Fantasy Premier League player price list begins with a look at budget defenders.

In this piece, we will scrutinise the 91 defensive assets currently available at £4.0m or £4.5m and pinpoint the players who stand out – as well as those to avoid.

With there being a glut of premium midfield options in FPL this season, budget-freeing players in defence may be in particularly high demand.

Indeed, six sub-£5.0m defenders currently have double-digit ownership at the time of writing.

£4.0m Bench Fodder – Or Better?

Lundstram delivers on recent promise as Grealish misses penalty

The 2019/20 golden goose that was John Lundstram (£5.5m) has been reclassified and handed a price rise ahead of the new campaign, leaving a £4.0m-shaped hole in FPL ahead of the new campaign.

It seems very unlikely that we’ll get a repeat of the erstwhile Fantasy defender’s out-of-position heroics from another source this season but there are always one or two names who emerge from the FPL bargain bin to establish themselves as bench fodder options or better.

Pre-season will be a good indicator of which of these assets may come to the fore and it was in Sheffield United’s friendlies last summer that it became apparent that Lundstram was going to be more than just a back-up option.

While very unlikely to match Lundstram’s achievements, Nathan Ferguson (£4.0m) could still replicate what Aaron Wan-Bissaka (£5.5m) did at Crystal Palace a few seasons ago.

Ferguson joined the Eagles from West Bromwich Albion this summer, having almost done so in January.

Able to play in either full-back position and at centre-half, Ferguson’s versatility could come in handy as Roy Hodgson’s side have a number of first-team defenders who are struggling to be fit for the new campaign.

Right-back is the role in which he will reportedly challenge in the medium term, however, with Joel Ward (£4.5m) at risk.

Teammate Tyrick Mitchell (£4.0m), who deputised for the injured Patrick van Aanholt (£5.5m) in two matches at the back-end of 2019/20, is also available at this price point and we’ll be eagerly awaiting news on the Dutchman’s recovery ahead of the new campaign.

While we would never wish misfortune on any player, an injury to Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m) would see Neco Williams’ (£4.0m) ownership figure sky-rocket.

The back-up Liverpool right-back saw plenty of pitch-time once Liverpool’s title win was in the bag but will be reduced to playing second fiddle at the start of 2020/21, unless anything happens to Alexander-Arnold – otherwise, the occasional start in periods of congestion or late-game substitute appearance is about the best he can hope for.

Much of what we have written about Williams also applies to most of the other £4.0m assets, in that they will be reliant on injuries befalling their positional rivals in order to get game-time.

Wing-back Oskar Buur (£4.0m) and centre-half Max Kilman (£4.0m) are some way down the pecking order in their respective positions at Wolves, while Manchester United’s Teden Mengi (£4.0m) has had only six minutes of senior football (in the Europa League) in his fledgeling senior career.

Newcastle United youngster Kelland Watts (£4.0m) and Burnley’s out-of-favour Ben Gibson (£4.0m) may well depart their club on loan or permanently, meanwhile.

Bernardo (£4.0m) will play back-up to Dan Burn (£4.5m) at Brighton, while Sam Vokins (£4.0m) is another understudy left-back on the south coast, this time at Southampton.

It’s worth monitoring the cases of Jarrad Branthwaite (£4.0m) and Ben Johnson (£4.0m) over the summer.

Branthwaite impressed at centre-half in injury-hit Everton’s final four fixtures of last season but will now face increased competition from the Toffees’ fit-again Mason Holgate (£5.0m) and Yerry Mina (£5.5m).

Right-back Johnson was the beneficiary of Jeremy Ngakia’s decision to leave east London on a free in June, starting West Ham’s last three matches.

Ryan Fredericks (£4.5m) was recalled to the team in Gameweek 38+ but Johnson still kept his place, switching flanks to cover for West Ham’s two injured left-backs.

Finally, a word on Leeds United’s £4.0m-rated quartet.

Leif Davis, Oliver Casey, Barry Douglas and Pascal Struijk started just eight Championship matches between them last season, with set-piece whizz Douglas responsible for six of them.

Most are expected to be back-ups if they stick around next season although Struijk, interestingly, started Leeds’ last two Championship matches in central midfield (admittedly because of injuries and there being nothing tangible to play for) and impressed.

With Leeds still no closer to securing Ben White‘s (£4.5m) permanent signature at the time of writing, Struijk could even be in the shake-up for a start at centre-back in Gameweek 1.

Newly Promoted £4.5m Options

On the subject of Marcelo Bielsa’s side, there are four more Leeds defenders available at £4.5m.

Garnering the most attention from FPL managers at present are Stuart Dallas and Luke Ayling, who are currently the third and fourth most-owned FPL defenders at the £4.5m price point.

Those two players were Leeds’ first-choice full-backs for much of the season, registering eight attacking returns apiece in a side that kept 22 clean sheets and conceded on just 35 occasions.

Dallas and the equally versatile Ezgjan Alioski (£4.5m) were both deployed ‘out of position’ by Bielsa on several occasions and it’s worth keeping an eye on the Whites’ pre-season friendly line-ups to see if there are any clues ahead of Gameweek 1.

Dallas seems to find a space in Bielsa’s side no matter if his services aren’t required at left-back, having started all but one of his side’s 46 Championship matches last season.

You can read much more on Leeds’ defence, including centre-back Liam Cooper (£4.5m), in our special player-by-player guide to the newly promoted outfit.

With the £5.0m-rated Semi Ajayi the stand-out option in the West Brom defence, there is little left to cheer in the £4.5m bracket.

Uncertainty in the full-back positions and indeed alongside Ajayi at centre-half means that we wouldn’t be able to call Slaven Bilic’s first-choice defence at this early stage and all eyes will be on West Brom’s pre-season fixtures, along with any Albion movement in the transfer market.

You can read an in-depth, player-by-player guide to the Baggies’ backline here.

As with West Brom, there are question marks over the competency of Fulham’s backline, as well as the personnel within it.

January signing Michael Hector (£4.5m) looks a secure starter after having had a transformative effect on the Cottagers’ defence in the second half of the season, although he didn’t particularly pose much of a goal threat after his arrival.

Neither did the ageing Tim Ream (£4.5m), starter of 44 of Fulham’s Championship matches, who was preferred over Alfie Mawson (£4.5m) as Hector’s partner this calendar year.

Scott Parker may well bring in a right-back this summer (especially if Denis Odoi departs), with Cyrus Christie (£4.5m) and Steven Sessegnon (£4.5m) his existing options in that department.

Again, we won’t retread too much over old ground and instead point you in the direction of our detailed player-by-player guide to Fulham’s defence.

Big Six Back-Ups and Potential Starters

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Brandon Williams (£4.5m) has been handed a price rise by FPL after his breakthrough season in 2019/20, although he is still in budget defender territory.

Given how prone to injury Luke Shaw (£5.0m) can be, we Fantasy managers will be watching with keen interest over the coming weeks to see if the more senior left-back has recovered from the ankle problem that prematurely ended his season.

Axel Tuanzebe and Timothy Fosu-Mensah are the other back-up United options available at this price point but it’ll be Williams who the FPL world will be monitoring once the Red Devils’ season gets underway in Gameweek 2.

Ole Gunnar Solskaer’s troops kept clean sheets in nine of their final 14 league matches last season, while Williams made 11 starts in the whole of 2019/20.

Juan Foyth‘s one league start under Jose Mourinho saw the Argentinean hooked at half-time, so it remains to be seen if the sole £4.5m Spurs defender is anything but surplus to requirements this summer.

Across north London, there is more intrigue in the £4.5m bracket.

While two of Arsenal’s four-strong contingent at this price are currently crocked, there could potentially be a bargain to be had in the shape of William Saliba.

The highly-thought-of teenage centre-back was signed for a whopping £26m at the age of 18 and is fresh back from a loan spell at St Etienne.

Saliba is thought to be the long-term plan on the right-hand side of Arsenal’s defence and, with positional rivals Calum Chambers (£4.5m) and Shkodran Mustafi (£5.0m) sidelined, may find himself starting a Premier League game sooner than thought.

Rob Holding is also available at £4.5m, but despite starting the Gunners’ last three league matches and the FA Cup final, was way down the pecking order until injuries stacked up at centre-half and may find himself struggling for game-time yet again.

Top-Half Understudies

All eyes will be on Nuno Espirito Santo in this summer’s transfer market, as any inactivity from Wolves could present us with a £4.5m-rated route into an impressive backline that kept clean sheets in nine of their final 14 games.

A serious injury to Jonny (£5.5m) has temporarily paved the way for Ruben Vinagre (£4.5m) to start at left wing-back but Wolves are reportedly in negotiations for Napoli’s Faouzi Ghoulam, which would swiftly nip the Vinagre bandwagon in the bud.

Teammate Ryan Bennett (£4.5m) was farmed out on loan by Santo in the second half of last season and may move on this summer.

Sheffield United’s one remaining sub-£5.0m defender, Jack Robinson (£4.5m), will again be reliant on left-sided centre-half Jack O’Connell (£5.0m) picking up an injury in order to be given game-time.

Leicester City’s quintet of £4.5m-rated FPL defenders are all back-ups when the first-choice options are fit but with Ricardo Pereira (£6.0m) not thought to be back until October, James Justin (£4.5m) could be given a stay of execution at right-back for a favourable run of games in the first five Gameweeks.

Luke Thomas (£4.5m) may also start the season on the left if Ben Chilwell (£5.5m) fails to recover from injury or departs for pastures new – although if that latter situation occurs, Brendan Rodgers will surely dip into the transfer market.

Jonny Evans‘ (£5.5m) three-match ban also temporarily opens up a spot at centre-half but the Leicester boss may very well reinforce his options at the back with only veteran Wes Morgan (£4.5m) and the untested Filip Benkovic (£4.5m) for cover.

Vinagre is the only £4.5m defender currently owned by more FPL managers than Charlie Taylor.

The Burnley left-back is one of five Clarets players who are available at this bargain price despite the fact that only Manchester City kept more clean sheets than Sean Dyche’s (15) side last season.

Four of those options are admittedly competing for two positions and, while the tussle for the right-back slot between Matthew Lowton (£4.5m) and Phil Bardsley (£4.5m) seems set to drag on, Taylor was mostly preferred over Erik Pieters (£4.5m) at left-back when he was fully fit.

Admittedly, there isn’t a great deal of attacking threat posed by these cheaper alternatives to James Tarkowski (£5.5m) and Nick Pope (£5.5m) and Burnley do blank in Gameweek 1.

But this is a tried-and-tested backline with little risk of rotation when things are going well, so plenty of us will be revisiting the Clarets from Gameweek 2 onwards.

The Best of the Rest

Walker-Peters has fixtures but as yet unproven pedigree as a budget FPL defender

Southampton are one of the sides we picked out for the right reasons in our first Frisking the Fixtures piece of 2020/21.

It could be that three of their starting back four are available for £4.5m in their Gameweek 1 clash with Crystal Palace, with new arrivals Kyle Walker-Peters and Mohammed Salisu joining Jan Bednarek at this price point.

Salisu could be competing with Bednarek for the left-sided centre-back role and, although the Pole could potentially move over to the right, perhaps the safest cheap route into the Saints backline – for now – would be Walker-Peters.

The former Spurs man impressed in the run-in after a slow start to his Saints career, although only four chances created from Gameweeks 31+ to 38+ was hardly a ringing endorsement of his FPL potential.

Jamaal Lascelles faces a race against time to be fit for the new season but, when available, the Newcastle centre-half is the most-nailed of the Magpies’ seven £4.5m FPL defenders – three of whom are right-backs.

Simply put, Lascelles starts every match when not on the sidelines.

The Magpies’ opening four matches are reasonably appealing but Steve Bruce’s recent change to a more attacking 4-2-3-1 has perhaps come at the expense of their usual solidity at the back, with only two clean sheets arriving in the post-lockdown era.

Crystal Palace are another team who have traditionally been a good bet for a clean sheet when playing the Premier League ‘also-rans’ and the Eagles have an excellent run of matches at Selhurst Park to begin the season with.

Three of their five £4.5m defenders are currently flagged in FPL, however, in the form of centre-backs Gary Cahill, Mamadou Sakho and James Tomkins.

Having ended the season with a patched-up defence and eight matches without a win, it may be another makeshift backline involving Joel Ward (£4.5m) and Martin Kelly (£4.5m) that is sent out to face Southampton in Gameweek 1.

There are eight Brighton defenders available at £4.5m but Dan Burn, Tariq Lamptey and Adam Webster are the three who had established themselves alongside Lewis Dunk (£5.0m) in Albion’s first-choice backline towards the season’s end.

Where new signing Joel Veltman, who is able to play at right-back and centre-half, and Leeds target Ben White fit into all this is another question, and Graham Potter’s unpredictable rotation will be enough for many FPL managers to bypass the defence and head straight for risk-free goalkeeper Mathew Ryan (£4.5m).

Aston Villa were much improved from a defensive perspective after the restart in June, with only three clubs conceding fewer big chances.

There’ll still be some mistrust at a side that conceded more goals than all bar Norwich City last season, however, and a Blank Gameweek 1 is another black mark against them.

Kortney Hause‘s (£4.5m) set-piece threat really caught the eye when he briefly made Dean Smith’s starting XI and the assist potential of Matt Targett (£4.5m), creator of more opportunities and ‘big chances’ in 2019/20 than any other defender in this piece, has been well-documented, but there’ll realistically be few takers.

Finally, few of us will be going near West Ham United’s £4.5m-rated defenders anytime soon with the Hammers bottom of our Season Ticker from Gameweeks 1-8.

That should give us plenty of time to see if Ryan Fredericks (£4.5m) or the £4.0m-related Johnson is David Moyes’ first-choice right-back ahead of the fixture swing in Gameweek 9.

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  1. One Man
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Just a thought. But I noticed last season Andy Robertson stayed on the pitch for the full 90 more often than Trent. Only reason Robertson played less overall minutes is cause he missed 2 games due to injury.

    Robertson could equal Trent this season, if Trent continues to be taken off when Pool are well ahead.

    Anyone going with Robertson over Trent to save 0.5m ?

    1. fr3d
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Defenders who are taken off early are more likely to keep clean sheets

    2. rnrd
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I think TAA free kicks, goals and corners which also leads to BPS are worth the 0.5

    3. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Robbo isnt on TAA’s level when it comes to chance creation

      1. Bubz
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        And free kicks

    4. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Robbo had no cover. Now he's got that Greek guy to relieve him if he's tired. TAA has Neco. I'm on both anyway.

    5. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      TAA has bigger goal threat due to free kicks and is generally more creative

    6. R.C
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Tsimikas says hello

    7. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Its all well & good until TAA pops up with a 24 pointer vs. someone - but yeah Robbo is superb as well

      Reasonably strong case for both, VVD as well, who is even cheaper again & is targeted at every single corner & IFK

      Such a pain trying to fit them all in

    8. Klaren
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Robbo didn’t have a proper backup last season other than Milner who isn’t originally a LB and was injured for a long time anyway.

      He has a better backup than TAA this season so expect less minutes and more benchings for him in easy games.

      1. One Man
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Good explanation lads. Makes sense as well.

    9. OverTinker
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Good job. We need more theories like this to reduce his ownership.

  2. Slitherene
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    JW-P + Werner (+1.0)

    Or

    Ziyech + Ings

    How highly do you guys rate JW-P?

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Armstrong is better than JWP for 0.5m less.

      1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Better than ASM at the start do you think?

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Armstrong has better stats and better team. But Newcastle have better first 4 fixtures.

          1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Yeah toughie, I’m leaning towards Armstrong because Southampton are a better attacking unit

          2. FPL Daniel
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            ASM is an unground diamond, huge potential to become 150-175 pts per season player. Check his .ppg and stats per game. I trust he can become the new Mahrez, he just needs to stay fit and get regular game time.

            1. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              That's my thinking, but as KK says, it would help if he had an Ings to finish off those assists.

            2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              He has terrible players around him and a defensive manager which is the major issue.

        2. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          ASM has only 3 benchable fixtures in the first 14; Armstrong has 5. Armstrong is a better punt on average, imo but if you intend to use your 5.5 every GW for the longterm you might incline towards ASM.

          1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I’ll most likely WC early so thinking it’s Armstrong, thanks

      2. Sune
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I disagree

  3. R.C
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone found ways to navigate GW2 or do we just ride the way and accept a low score?

    1. R.C
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      wave*

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'll take the lower score and not dive into hits.

    3. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Thinking of saving an FT and use 2FTs the following week to get KDB and Rashford but I will most likely be priced out and will pull my hairs in despair. So no, not really - just ride the wave

  4. Stormbringer22
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Hi folks, curious to know your thoughts on the below.

    Pretty settled on the spine of my team and I am just deciding on the last couple of spots and have hit a wall. Would you rather:

    A. Play 4-4-2 having a Sheffield defender (Egan most likely) and a £5.0 first sub fifth midfielder. Sheffield's opening 5 don't seem too bad defensively;
    B. Play 3-5-2 having a £5.5 playing fifth mid - Armstrong/Neves/Moutinho and no Sheffield defence.

    A.
    McCarthy
    TAA • Vinagre • Saliba • Egan (4.0)
    Salah • Auba • Son • Ziyech (5.0)
    Werner • Mitrovic (4.5)

    B.
    McCarthy
    TAA • Vinagre • Saliba (4.5 • 4.0)
    Salah • Auba • Son • Ziyech • Armstrong/Moutinho/Neves
    Werner • Mitrovic (4.5)

    1. R.C
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B with Armstrong

      1. Stormbringer22
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        This is what I am on initially. Do you reckon with all those £4.5 options in defence it is not such a big deal to go without any Sheffield defence?

        1. R.C
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Sheffield United is still a wait and watch after Deano left

          Personally feel they will be good but could be risky as Deano was the back bone of their defence

          Also 3-5-2 is the way to go

          Regarding Armstrong, I don't think he's nailed, maybe look at ASM? Moutinho could work too

          1. Stormbringer22
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Cheers bud!

      2. Gabbiadini
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        +1

  5. Flynny
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Which striker to include alongside werner and mitro

    A...ings

    B...kane

    2m saving comes from midfield

    Thanks

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Kane.

    2. R.C
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ings

    3. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Harry

    4. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Given the fixtures, Kane seems to be the obvious pick. The 2m difference, however, can still net you a good amount of points from midfield. Who are you downgrading?

    5. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ings.
      What's the effect in the midfield?

      1. Flynny
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Salah auba 8m asm soucek
        Werner mitro

        A....ings and ziyech / greenwood ..up to 8m

        B...kane and armstrong

    6. Sune
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ings

    7. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Kane

    8. Stu3y
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ings. Kane is currently in quarantine for two weeks, so not training!

      1. Flynny
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Where is this info from???

        1. Stu3y
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Widely reported if you google ‘Harry Kane Quarantine’

  6. amit1964
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    hii
    any draft league here?
    thank you

  7. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Amazing analysis Skonto, thank you for the article. Looking forward to be seeing you more this year.

  8. Botman and Robben
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    How is this? 1.5M ITB. Auba and Son to KDB and Bruno later.

    McCarthy
    TAA Doherty Saliba
    Salah Auba Son ASM Soucek
    Werner Mitro

    Nyland Dallas/Ayling Ferguson Davis

    1. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      This is beautiful. If it wasn't for my stubbornness to double up on Chelsea with both Werner and Ziyech, I would be looking at exactly the team you've got there. Excellent squad and very flexible. Good job!

      1. Botman and Robben
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Hope so. Trying to keep an extra 0.5 in there for the price rises on Manc assets after GW1.

        1. Stormbringer22
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I am thinking of taking a -4 to do Auba + Son > KDB + Rashford to avoid being priced out. Seems silly to sell those 2 for a hit though, given their GW2 opponents... You are in a good position, my friend!

  9. fish&chips
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Apologies if this has been covered already as I've been away for a few days but what are people thinking to do for city cover given GW1 blank and then pretty terrible fixtures for the first 9. I'm tempted to go city-less and then triple up from around GW10. But then it's city and maybe they'll be massively under represented if everyone else has a similar approach so could be gains to be had if they still score plenty despite the difficult fixtures.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Take my time. I do think KDB can deliver in any game and I've got a plan to get him for GW3. The rest can wait.

    2. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Well, in the corresponding fixtures last season from GW2-GW10 (with the exception of Leeds away of course), City scored 20 goals in 8 games, so almost 3 per game. I don't see the issue, City can and do score against anyone.

  10. aapoman
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts?

    McCarthy
    TAA Egan Justin Vinagre
    Auba Salah Son Armstrong
    Werner Ings

    4.0; Saliba, Gordon, Brewster

  11. nolard
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Not convinced by McCarthy in goal.

    Options?

    a) Ryan
    b) Ramsdale
    c) pay up for a 5.5 keeper.

    1. nolard
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I plan to set and forget.

    2. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      McCarthy wouldn't be 4.5 if he had played a full seaosn. He's definitely underpriced.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        this

      2. nolard
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Just not convinced about their defense overall.

    3. Klaren
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

    4. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Start with B - three nice early fixtures and then you can perhaps re-evaluate whenever you come to WC

      1. nolard
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I like this.

    5. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Definitely wouldn't want to do C, so if you are not convinced by McCarthy, go for Ramsdale

    6. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      McCarthy or ryan for me

    7. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B seems like a steal (pun intended)! Surprised he’s not in many teams on here

    8. nolard
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Seems the opinions are very split on this.

    9. nolard
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks for all the feedback.
      I have gone with Ramsdale.

  12. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Any news on what is happening with Rhian Brewster? We need a playing 4.5 fwd this season 🙂

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A whole string of clubs are lining up to ask for him but it looks like Klopp is keeping hold. If Origi leaves, he could get decent bench time.

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        If he gets a loan and is nailed then Salah and Brewster v Ziyech and Ings/Jimenez becomes an interesting debate

  13. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Who would you rather have vs Leeds GW1 along with TAA:

    A) VVD
    B) Robertson

    Are they any more susceptible from set pieces or down their right hand side?

    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

    2. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      VVD. Will play 90 after 90 and does also have attacking returns in his locker.

      Both TAA and Robbo will get rests this season.

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        It is literally for the one GW if if I WC in GW2, where I will keep VVD long term

  14. NABIL - FPL otai
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    The opening fixtures have actually reaffirmed my initial new strategy this season to use my FTs, to switch premiums to, in LR words, do upside chasing.

    GW2: mane/salah to bruno
    GW3: auba to kdb
    GW4: kane to kun (leeds, possibly captain)

    Here's hoping that I can be patient with my other picks and free injuries to my team.

    1. Dr. Rog
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      kane to werner for me (CPL, captain)

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yep, definitely an option too. I hope Chelsea need all the time in the world to gel 😛

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Since I put out a similar roadmap when the fixtures came out, it looks like many people are falling into line. The template is becoming GW1 Salah/Auba and getting them out for KDB and Bruno over GW2-3.

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Never see your roadmap but already seen many people planning to do it. Blank and fixtures helping the cause, of course. In my case, always planned to start with auba but kdb is someone I'm willing to gamble going without given his first 2 fix

    3. MANGE TOUT RODNEY
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah I think there will be a mas exodus from Auba to KDB in GW3.

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Indeed. Fixtures not great to keep auba beyond gw2 unfortunately. But his first 2 fix are too good to ignore imo

  15. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    1) How do you think Mou will shape the Spurs defence with Vert and potentially Aurier gone?

    2) Their fixtures look good but do you think it’s worth getting a Spurs defender with so much uncertainty?

    1. Klaren
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      If Aurier is gone, they’ll definitely sign a new RB. Vertonghen wasn’t playing under Mourinho anyway so playing CBs will continue to be 2 of Alderweireld, Dier and Sanchez.

      Their defensive stats weren’t good last season so I personally am not interested in Spurs defenders.

      1. Pegboy
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Agree with all this.

        Dier and Alderweireld likely to be first choice with Sanchez rotating in.

        Davies is the pick if you do want a route into the defence, but I'd avoid until we prove we can defend.

  16. Dr. Rog
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Been through a number of iterations... here is a solid 442 team for the medium to long term

    McCarthy 4
    TAA *Doherty/VVD* Davies Vinegar 4
    Salah *KdB/Sterling* Greenwood Soucek 4.5
    *Werner/Martial* Jimmy Mitro

    with a couple of tweaks to start with - Kane/Auba/Saliba(orJustin) in the starred positions, with flexibility to jump onto the relevant manchester option and a bit of wait and see on Werner.

  17. ydnakurz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    What do you think?

    McCarthy (Peacock-Farrell)
    TAA Aurier Justin Vinagre (Ferguson)
    Auba Salah Maddison Saint-Maximin (Foden)
    Werner Jiminez (Davis)

    (0 ITB)

    Plan would be to carry FT into week 3 and then Auba to one of the MNU boys (Rashford probably) for GW3

  18. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Who is ASM, please? 🙂

    1. Nabs Kebabs
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Allan Saint-Maxim

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thank you.

    2. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      The (french) Geordie Messi!

    3. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Good to see you around btw mate! Hope you are well 🙂

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yes, thank you.

  19. dbeck
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    anyone looking at Antonio GW1 and leave enough money ITB to switch to Matrial for GW2 onwards? Or is booking in a transfer just bad? I feel it makes more sense as you'll want to get city and united in so we've all effectively booked in transfers anyway

    1. Bury94
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      This is literally exactly what I have planned

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I was looking at starting with Mitro for GW1-3 then turn him into Jimmy for GW4 onwards

      Money coming from Salah > Bruno GW2 & Auba > KDB GW3 plus 0.5 ITB to start with

      Best laid plans of mice & men

  20. Nabs Kebabs
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on Mason Mount as a pick?

    1. Sune
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not bad imo.

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I like him in so far as he will likely play the full 90 vs Brighton whereas someone like Ziyech who is new to the intensity of the league may be taken off around 65 mins

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Beyond that and once Ziyech, Pulisic, Kovacic and possibly Havertz are available it gets trickier

    3. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Good until Havertz arrives.

    4. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I think lamps will play him early days but the new boys will eat on his minutes

  21. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Do you think Foden features in City's strongest XI now?

    Ederson
    Walker Ake/Garcia Laporte Cancelo
    Rodri KDB Foden/B.Silva/Gundogan
    Mahrez Aguero Sterling

    1. nolard
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I don't think so.
      Pep-rotation is so frustrating, so best avoid non-nailed City players.

    2. Klaren
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Based on recent minutes he features in the RW role instead of Mahrez. Massive rotation risk though.

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Will almost be willing to take the risk if it weren't for the risk of 1 point cameos. Least they have done away with the 5 subs rule.

    3. dbeck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I think Foden will play most home games, i havent looked but if your interested in Foden, perhaps look at a decent rotation option. People have said greenwood but thats too pricey to rotate. Idk, a 5.5m mid/att might be a good shout

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Think I can set up a Foden/ASM/4.5 def two way rotation for one spot.

    4. Pompel
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Problem with rotating him is ofc high risk of 1pt cameos

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Right, how do you rotate him? He has to be in your starting lineup as you never know if Pep will start him or bring him on later.

  22. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Think I'm going TAA, Tierney and Justin for GW1 with KWP 1st on bench.

    1. dbeck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      i'm the same but with Bellerin over Tierney purely down to budget

      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Got cash in bank at the moment as going with 2 premium Mids and 2 £5.5s.

    2. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Love your 3 starters

      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thank you kindly.

  23. nolard
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Do we consider Greenwood nailed on now?
    Or do I pay up for Rashford?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Nailed til they sign a new RW

    2. dbeck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Greenwood is nailed unless man utd sign a winger. Even with his price hike to 7.5m he still could be under valued. There arent many mids who can brace in any game for 7.5m

    3. nolard
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Thank you.

      It looks like I end up with two United midfielders - Greenwood and Bruno.

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Same here - think they represent superb value and both underpriced by about 1.0m each

      2. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I think most will. I anticipate over 50% ownership for both by GW4.

      3. dbeck
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I think i'm set on Martial over Bruno

        1. nolard
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          The stability of Bruno vs Martial and the pens swing it for me.

    4. pjomara
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Will Greenwood score as many goals now that he's been moved into midfield?

  24. WVA
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Yeah I think so, their defence doesn't look great!

    Ederson
    Walker Garcia Laporte Mendy
    KDB Rodri Foden
    Mahrez Aguero Sterling

    1. WVA
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Damn, reply fail to Miguel

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      You think he is lined up for a CM birth rather than competing for a wing spot as has been suggested?

  25. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Mitchell, Ferguson, Johnson - they won't be 2019-Lundstram 2.0's but they could be 2018-AWB 2.0's for us this year...

    So cheap

    1. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      True, question is - who to go for? Currently on Ferguson myself

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        TAA & Doherty/VVD plus all three maybe 🙂

      2. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Mitchell then fergie.. or both

        1. Stormbringer22
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Would you really be brave enough to risk going with two £4.0 defenders in a season where a good bench would be more important than before?

    2. dbeck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      If PVA is out for the beginning of the season, Mitchell imo is the best bet. Ferguson has to dislodged Ward and Kelly who seem to be Woy trusted lads

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yep - Ferguson seems to have more bodies in front of him for sure - but Kelly always seemed to be playing by necessity/injury to others though rather than anything else so might be able to hop in front of him fairly quickly?

        Same with AWB's departure having opened the door for Ward? He didnt seem to get many minutes the two prior seasons & even last season still "only" managed about 2000 minutes...

  26. jia you
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    GW1 team GTG people?
    (probably WC GW2)

    McCarthy
    Trent Tierney Justin
    Salah Auba Son Soucek
    Kane(C) Mitro Antonio
    (Nyland Stephens Lamptey Williams)

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Very good, but what's the plan? Salah, Auba, Son and Kane staying or placeholders for Mancs?

      1. jia you
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        haven't thought it through fully but mancs will be coming in for sure

    2. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Lacks Chelsea - Son/Kane to Ziyech/Werner and upgrade elsewhere?

      1. jia you
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I will add a Chelsea attacker in GW2

    3. WVA
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I have similar, Vinagre Werner Ings stronger than Tierney Kane Antonio? Arsenal defence bad, double west ham attack too?

      McCarthy
      TAA Vinagre Justin
      Salah Auba Son Soucek
      Werner Ings Mitrovic
      Nyland Stephens Taylor Ferguson

    4. dbeck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      How do you plan to play double west ham, fixtures are nasty from GW2 onwards

      I only ask as i'm on Antonio with enough itb to go martial. With WH fixtures a lot wont bother with Antonio and could be a nice upside guy for GW1

      1. jia you
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        They will go on WC more than likely

  27. Jullepuu
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Are people sleeping on Jota? 6.5mil and he is a mid now

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Podence and Neto are lurking

    2. Klaren
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Massive rotation risk with Neto and Podence also competing for the same spot.

    3. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Rotation risk along with Traore and Dendoncker.

      Nuno seems to like playing Dendoncker and getting Dendoncker to make the runs from midfield. Have also seen Traore play in a front two with Jimenez. And then Jota in a front two with Jimenez. But then other games Dendoncker is benched and Traore and Jota both start.

    4. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Great option, but doesn't really fit my team structure. Should work well for people going for a 3-4-3 or even 4-4-2.

    5. Birds of Prey
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I was initially but not nailed. Fun to watch but that doesn't feed the bulldog. I was Trezgiat until fixes.

    6. jia you
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      See Wolves in a relegation battle this season

      1. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        lol

  28. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Surprised at not seeing Saka in more teams.

    Seems a secure starter for Arsenal, either in midfield or the wings.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Waiting for Commie S. Can't be sure of his minutes.

      1. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah. Hoping Lacazette leaves. That would help with Auba and Saka.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          and Nketiah.

  29. The Red Devil
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    First draft, go on, rip it up!
    Dubravka button
    TAA vinagre KWP Ferguson Dallas
    Salah Aubameyang son ASM soucek
    Werner Jimenez Davis

    Dubravka for the saves points
    Jimenez will do very well I think, only city fixture is tough, but he does well against them, soucek seems ok for first couple of GWs, will monitor any budget midfielder option

    1. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I like it. I have Dallas as a first defensive sub as well but having seen Leed's opening fixtures I am leaning more towards someone like Justin for the £4.5 defender spot. Other than that, looks good!

      1. The Red Devil
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Bdw this has 0.5itb

      2. The Red Devil
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Dallas will be on bench mostly, can do dubravka to McCarthy & KWP to Justin & upgrade soucek to 5.5

  30. Fpl Richie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Bellerin is 5m - that passed me by but that's a good price.
    Any interest? Is he nailed nowadays?

    1. The Red Devil
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      What about Cedric?

      1. Fpl Richie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Well exactly - I'm all ears. But if he is first choice it's a good price

      2. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        or Maitland-Niles