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The best mid-price and premium FPL goalkeepers for 2020/21

The case for high-end premium goalkeepers is perhaps at the weakest it has been for years.

£6.0m shot-stoppers have historically provided some level of consistency in their returns but a sub-par year for the men between the sticks at Liverpool and Manchester City in 2019/20 has Fantasy Premier League managers looking at cheaper options all the more.

However, a selection of £5.5m assets may catch the eye if they start the campaign well, while some of the £5.0m goalkeepers have potential too.

Considering the limited selection of promising £4.5m goalkeepers, could Fantasy managers find value in this mid-price bracket in 2020/21?

We’ve run the rule over the 18 goalkeepers who cost £5.0m or more this season.

The title-challengers

Alisson (£6.0m) and Ederson (£6.0m) come into 2020/21 as the only £6.0m options in the goalkeeper bracket – but it is difficult to see what use they will be across the whole campaign.

Even though they play for the Premier League’s top two clubs, eight different goalkeepers racked up more points in 2019/20 than Ederson, while 10 managed more than Alisson.

Admittedly, the Brazilian did miss nine matches through injury, but his score of 122 averaged at just 4.2 points per game. While that could be seen as a steady stream of points by some, few would argue that it is worth paying £6.0m for.

Ederson’s value was even worse, offering just 3.8 points per game for his premium price point.

2019/20 was a worse than usual campaign for both Manchester City and Liverpool defensive credentials. The two clubs have previously displayed the ability to get 20 clean sheets or more in a season but in 2019/20, they managed 17 and 15 respectively.

Meanwhile, a suspension for Ederson and Alisson’s injury meant neither one could capitalise on their team’s full complement of shut-outs, getting points for 16 and 13 each.

And, of course, the main drawback of forking out for a premium goalkeeper is the lack of bonus and save points.

Alisson (11) and Ederson (two) combined for just 13 bonus points last season; the six shot-stoppers who managed more than that amalgamated total all coming into 2020/21 at a cheaper price.

Meanwhile, the top clubs’ domination of possession meant that 14 goalkeepers registered more saves than Ederson (68), while Alisson was only forced into 58.

Pope and the top-half options

By contrast, Nick Pope (£5.5m) is sure to offer significant value, it’s just whether or not you’re willing to pay £5.5m for a man who misses Gameweek 1.

No goalkeeper scored more than his 170 points last season, comprised of 15 clean sheets and, unlike those £6.0m options, the third-highest save tally in the division (120) and the highest bonus total among shot-stoppers too (23, seven more than second place).

It is not a huge leap to say that nobody in the £5.5m bracket can match Pope’s level of points potential for the new campaign based on what we saw in 2019/20.

Rui Patrício (£5.5m), Kasper Schmeichel (£5.5m), David de Gea (£5.5m) and Dean Henderson (£5.5m) all kept 13 clean sheets, two fewer than Pope, but each one was at least 22 behind on saves with none of these teams likely to give up as many shots as Burnley.

And while Pope registered 23 bonus points, Patrício, De Gea and Schmeichel all mustered 10 or fewer.

Only one of De Gea or Henderson is likely to be a regular starter this season in light of the latter appearing to commit to playing at Old Trafford this season. Alternatively, the battle for Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s number one spot may not be as clear cut and could see regular switches between the two.  

In favour of Hugo Lloris (£5.5m) and Patrício is the fact that both clubs have been handed two of the most appealing fixture schedules at the start of 2020/21.

However, there are cheaper options at both clubs in the defensive areas, with Ben Davies (£5.0m) and Eric Dier (£5.0m) among those considered at Spurs, while Romain Saïss (£5.0m) and Ruben Vinagre (£4.5m) can undercut Patrício.

Furthermore, even though Lloris actually bettered Pope for minutes per save last season (22.3 to 28.5), he kept a clean sheet in just 28% of his appearances, compared to 39.4% for the Burnley man.

BIG SIX VALUE OPTIONS

Fantasy managers will be watching the Community Shield with great interest this season, as they hope to discover which of Arsenal’s two goalkeepers will be the number one choice for 2020/21.

Despite missing most of the Premier League restart in June and July, Bernd Leno (£5.0m) still finished last season inside the top five for saves with a total of 113.

That helped the German finish 2019/20 with an overall score of 114, an average of 3.8 per game. The question is whether or not he will be fit enough for the new campaign, having previously been the first choice.

With Arsenal having steadily improved defensively under Mikel Arteta and during Project Restart, whichever goalkeeper starts the campaign is likely to offer value but, without wanting to wish misfortune on anyone, the Fantasy community is surely rooting for Martínez.

While the Spaniard is £0.5m cheaper he conceded fewer goals per game and boasted a better figure for saves per 90 minutes than Leno last season.

It is no secret that Chelsea are in the market for a new goalkeeper, which is surely enough to ward anyone off considering Willy Caballero (£5.0m) or Kepa Arrizabalaga (£5.0m) at this stage of the campaign.

Ironically enough, if Frank Lampard was able to bring Pope to Chelsea it might damage his points potential as so much of his appeal stems from the number of shots Burnley typically concede (more than the Blues).

If Lampard looks outside the Premier League for his new shot-stopper, it will be interesting to see how they will be priced. Based on their underlying statistics, Chelsea are a team that can keep clean sheets if their problems between the sticks are solved.

Kepa kept just eight clean sheets last season, shutting out opponents in just 24% of his appearances, adding just 55 saves.

If Chelsea do get to the end of the transfer window with no recruitment in goal, and they have shown some improvement, then £5.0m is a price well worth paying, there are just too many factors to warrant investing right now.

MID-TABLE MAYBES

Can Aaron Ramsdale prosper in FPL and will he affect the Sheffield United defence?

There does appear to be more interest in the £5.0m bracket at the mid-table than in previous years.

Each of these options are more nailed-on starters for Gameweek 1 than Leno or Kepa, and some of them are certainly in a position to outperform them for saves.

Fresh from relegation with Bournemouth, Aaron Ramsdale (£5.0m) has joined Sheffield United, a team that kept 13 clean sheets during their first season back in the Premier League.

128 saves for the Cherries last time out suggests there is the possibility Ramsdale could combine his increased clean sheet potential with a penchant for additionals and offer value in 2020/21. We did a full Scout Report on the player HERE.

No goalkeeper made more saves than Martin Dúbravka (£5.0m) last season, managing a total of 139. That contributed to an overall season score of 143 points, propped by a solid total of 11 clean sheets. 

Only five goalkeepers registered more points than Dúbravka in 2019/20, all of them coming into the new campaign priced at £5.5m. If this season’s shot-stopping charts were to reflect last, that would make the Newcastle man a value option indeed. In fact, last time out, only Pope, Ryan and Henderson finished with a better value (season) score than Dúbravka (28.6).

Jordan Pickford (£5.0m) struggled to live up to the promise of his previous two campaigns in 2019/20, scoring just 117 points, a drop-off of 44 compared to 2018/19.

While Everton’s defensive issues are perhaps not over just yet, any slight improvement could see £5.0m prove a cut-price cost for Fantasy managers, especially if they could go close to the 14 clean sheets recorded the season before last. 

Despite injury curtailing the first half of 2019/20, Lukasz Fabianski (£5.0m) remains in the £5.0m category, perhaps ruling him out for now.

Crystal Palace will have to improve defensively if Vicente Guaita (£5.0m) is to become a viable goalkeeper in 2020/21. During Project Restart, no team that survived relegation conceded more goals than the Eagles.

THE NO-GOES

The £5.0m bracket ends with some of the most avoidable assets in all of Fantasy Premier League.

Looking likely to be third in the Manchester United pecking order now, Sergio Romero (£5.0m) is certainly overpriced based on realistic estimates of his score this season. The Argentinian has not amassed more than 23 points in a single Premier League campaign since arriving in 2015/16.

Meanwhile, without a single Premier League minute for Newcastle since 2017/18, Karl Darlow (£5.0m) has somehow gained a £5.0m price-tag despite ending 2019/20 at £4.3m.

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  1. Jolly Good
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    I don’t get Chelsea.. they did so well with a young squad last year... and instead of giving them a chance to grow they are replacing everyone

    Werner, Havertz, Ziyech, Chilwell, Silva .... thats 50% of your starting squad replaced ...

    1. The Wanton Trader
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      You won’t win anything with kids 🙂

    2. @persecuted_by_mods
        3 years, 7 months ago

        It's Chelsea, 4th place and 0 trophies isn't so well. If it wasn't for the no signings issue that would be sack worthy

        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            3 years, 7 months ago

            *According to Roman

          • I Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Exactly. Don't understand the praise Lampard is getting at all. CL qualification is a positive but they got less points and conceded more goals than they did under Sarri. United had their worst start to a season in ages and only recovered after signing Bruno in January, and Spurs and Arsenal were terrible. Had Leicester not absolutely bottled it post lockdown we would be talking about a season of failure for Chelsea.

        2. I Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          They lost 12 games and conceded more goals than Brighton.

          1. Jolly Good
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            So let’s buy more attackers?

        3. Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Werner was obvious, Abraham is not good enough. Getting both ziyech and Havertz seems overkill though when they have Mount/CHO already

          1. Penzardlife
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            CHO just isn't there yet. Mount and Havertz I agree with, but you can't pass up on a talent like that and I'm sure we'll see them pair a-la Barkley-Mount in smaller games.

        4. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Apart from an experienced Silva and a prime age Ziyech the others are all young. The basic squad could be together for years..

        5. Godfrey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          To be fair Werner will replace Tammy. Ziyech will replace Hudson-Odoi and Chilwell will replace Alonso. Rudiger and Zouma are both not good enough, Thiago Silva will be a improvement. It's not like the replacement is the same level, every position is improved with the new players. Especially with Havertz, worldclass player.

        6. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          No transfers last year so double this time.

          1. Jolly Good
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            I get it if they finished 10th and needed an overhaul

            But you finish 4th when no one expects you to with that squad ... all young players ... give them a chance .. will only get better

            All transfers are great on paper... but how many times have we seen an all star team go wrong ... why fix something not broken ...

            In fact the glaring weakness has been keepers and CBs... so apart from Silva and maybe Werner all others could’ve been avoided

      • the dom 1
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Who would you play for GW1 out of these 2 x 5.5 mids?

        a. ASM v WHU
        b. Armstrong v CRY

        Cheers

        1. The Minus Fours
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Just - Armstrong - more likley to keep a bonus midfield CS point against weak CP attack than ASM against West Ham who finished the season well

          1. the dom 1
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Thats my thoughts too, I have ASM on the bench as 1st Sub.

            Cheers

        2. Wild Card this!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          ASM is more “nailed” I would say but considering opponents I would go with Armstrong for GW1

          1. the dom 1
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Yep agreed but going for Armstrong for GW1 i think too.

      • SomeoneKnows
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Your thoughts on the following GW1 team will be appreciated...

        McCarthy
        TAA / Doherty / Saliba / Ferguson
        Salah / Auba / Maddison / Stephens
        Jimenez / Mitrovic
        (Nyland, Bruno, Taylor, Davis)

        Auba > KDB planned for later on

        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Pretty similar to every other team bar the Maddison inclusion

          • The Minus Fours
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            I'd have a back up plan for Trent in case he is a no-show in the Community Shield - easy switch to Robbo or VVD - Saliba may not start if they sign Gabriel - Mitro is a watch and see for me and Jimenez has two tough ones to start but not bad to be fair.

            Let's hope Maddison pulls his finger out and doesn't leave his talent in Ibiza as I have taken a punt on him too!

        2. Penzardlife
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Hey all, its been a while! Took last year mostly off, but I'm back. How's this for a go?

          McCarthy (Nyland)

          TAA-Ferguson-Justin (could go)-Vinagre-(Dallas)

          Armstrong-Son-Ziyech-Aubameyang-Salah

          Werner-(Mitro)-(Brewster (assuming loan))

          1. St Pauli Walnuts
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Identical to my current draft apart from Taylor instead of Dallas, ASM instead of Armstrong and Steer instead of Nyland (who is likely to start for Villa apparently until Heaton fit). So I like it!

            I'd like to get Doherty in somewhere but hard to do.

        3. davies
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          How much would Havertz have to be in order to get him instead of Werner?

          1. Godfrey
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            8.5/9.0

          2. Ask Yourself
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            7.5

            1. Ask Yourself
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Because I’m getting ziyech isntead

          3. nolard
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Reckon he will cost 9.0.

            1. Old Man
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              8.5,
              8.0 if we're really lucky

            2. FOO FIGHTER
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              More than Pulisic and Ziyech?

              Most were saying 10 or 10.5 for Werner and look what happened.

              I highly doubt they will make Havertz more expensive than Ziyech.

          4. Meinhoff
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            8/8.5 and I am all in. Terrific talent

          5. Geenn
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            I don't understand all the love for Havertz, Ziyech, Werner and all the other new players in Premier League every year. This is rather a hope of something good than a rational choice. We don't know how fast they will adapt if they ever will. Maybe they are the next Bruno Fernandes but maybe they are the next Pepe? Is this a calculated risk you are willing to take rather than just go for a old, boring classic like Ings and Jimenez, that are almost guaranteed to deliver something. I mean if these new guys delivers I will jump on them as well. But we don't really know if they will, do we?

            1. The Minus Fours
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              It can only go one of two ways - the new Bruno - Or the next Shevchenko....I wonder how many through him into their FPL teams back in the day......

            2. Third Eye Vision
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Agreed. Always wait and see on players new to English football.

          6. FOO FIGHTER
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            I am thinking Havertz will be max 8.0 and that would be lovely 🙂 At 7.5 like an early christmas pressie.

        4. nolard
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I see a lot of huzzahs to Wolves' defense, but where is the love for Sheff U?

          They were solid too.

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Expecting less solid with ramsdale instead of henderson, I think people may be going too far with how much the regression will be but I'm expecting a regression nonetheless

              1. nolard
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Fair comment. I have Ramsdale, but am keeping a close eye on how it progresses.

              2. Old Man
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Eminently sensible stuff

            • Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              No idea. Fashion, innit? 🙂

            • Wild Card this!
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              I was considering but not promising fixtures really...from 4-8GW...that’s only reason tbf. Maybe some rotation possible but didn’t check yet...

            • nolard
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              If Vinagre gets replaced, that removes the 2nd budget option.

              1. Ser Davos
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                I'm keen on Egan or Enda

                Kit looks nice too

                1. nolard
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Currently on Egan, but if Vinagre is nailed it is tempted to only go with Ramsdale.

                  Seems I am talking myself out of my Sheff U boast.

          2. Arteta
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Ziyech, Havertz and Pulisic behind Werner?!

            Well now I just dislike Chelsea even more.

            1. Arteta
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Fair play for amazing transfer window though.

              1. Miguel Sanchez
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                You got Willian out of it though

            2. Old Man
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              You should do - they're going to give you trouble.

            3. @persecuted_by_mods
                3 years, 7 months ago

                I don't support them but I'm all for seeing amazing players come to England

              • goriuanx
                • 13 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                They're waiting in the wings once Liverpool's and City's cycle is over. Defence needs work though.

              • Wild Card this!
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                It’s promising, isn’t it? Love it but will wait and see how it pens out in first few GW...too many unknowns...

            4. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Auba Bruno Salah KDB

              Are some people really going without 2 of these 4?

              1. Old Man
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                You're not going to shoe-horn them all in are you? Good luck with that.

                1. Wild Card this!
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  For me is Salah to Bruno for GW2 and KDB later for Auba. Starting with Salah and Auba obviously

                  1. Old Man
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Yes - seems a reasonable policy.

              2. Third Eye Vision
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Yeah. I might ditch Salah for Bruno at some point and get whichever Chelsea mid looks best with the cash left over.

            5. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Hard to see Havertz coming in higher than Pulisic, which would make the Chelsea midfield trio very, very tempting options.

              1. Old Man
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Yep 😀
                Just a question of whether you get one in from the start.

              2. Baps hunter
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                How much will they play? 65 mins?

              3. Amey
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                I'm thinking about waiting for 2 gw's to analyse which one/two to get

              4. Thomas Jerome Newton
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Do you think Pulisic's minutes mostly unaffected by the new incomings?

                1. Wild Card this!
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  I think so but it’s anyone’s guess

            6. adstomko
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Good draft?

              McCarthy
              Trent, Tierney, Dier, Vinagre
              Aubameyang, Salah, Son, Ziyech, Keita
              Werner

            7. The Legend Squad
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Thoughts? Tempted to do Robbo for Doherty and keep £1.5m in the bank for Son to Bruno in week 2...

              McCarthy
              TAA Robbo KWP Vinagre
              Salah Auba Son ASM
              Kane Mitro

              Nyland Ferguson Wickham Davis

              1. The Wanton Trader
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                I like it.
                Along the same lines as mine below.

              2. The Wanton Trader
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                It does look like you have 4 strikers though.

              3. The Minus Fours
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                No Leicester against West Brom and then Burnley who are traditionally poor away from home - you must think Leicester will have a shocking start? (Vardy/Maddison/Perez) etc.....

                1. The Legend Squad
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Leicester is just Vardy from an FPL perspective, and I prefer Kane

            8. Siva Mohan
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Chelsea are on the verge of signing Kai Havertz from Bayer Leverkusen for an initial €80M + €20M in add ons. (Source: @FabrizioRomano)

            9. The Wanton Trader
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Still rocking this...

              McCarthy (Nyland)
              TAA / Robbo / Dier / Vinagre (Ferguson)
              Salah / Son / Auba / Pereira (4.5)
              Werner / Mitro (Davis)

              I guess as I haven’t changed it for a few days now, I’m must be pretty settled on it... 🙂

              1. R.C
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Not considering Doherty over Mitro?

                1. R.C
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Nvm that would mean 1 up front

                2. The Wanton Trader
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Not really.
                  I think I’ve got it just about right.

              2. R.C
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Not worried about have 3/6 new players in your front 6?

                1. R.C
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  having*

                2. The Wanton Trader
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Not worried about Mitro.
                  Pereira is a bit of punt, but can easily be downgraded.
                  Werner is also relatively easy to swap, but I really think he’ll do well.

                  1. R.C
                    • 6 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    What's your plan for Mancs?

                    1. The Wanton Trader
                      • 6 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Probably use Son or Auba if I feel like it.
                      Could even loose Robbo if I wanted to free some cash.
                      Lots of ways to do it really...

              3. The Legend Squad
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                I think this is spot on

                1. The Wanton Trader
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Thanks a lot...

            10. ThisPostsOnFire
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              STRATEGY TALK

              How long do YOU typically plan ahead for weighing up rotating centre backs?

              1. ThisPostsOnFire
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                * DEFENDERS NOT CENTRE BACKS

              2. SADIO SANÉ
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                it only really works if you target teams capable of 10+ CSs, otherwise it's a 1/2 point-fest. So Vinagre and Taylor are obvious ones, the rest are probably gonna be turd - Leeds fullbacks probably interesting when fixtures improve

              3. Brosstan
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Not a fan of that strategy at all

            11. Old Man
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Having seen a few clips of Havertz on Youtube I wonder if Lampard sees something of himself in him. Not so much in general play perhaps but his timing when arriving late in the box to score those goals. Be interested to hear others' opinions.

              1. R.C
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                That's Mount

              2. Penzardlife
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Has to be. Ziyech has also been the statistically best played for pull backs in Europes top 5 leagues. I reckon he'll be amongst the goals from the start, 10+10 G+A not unreasonable by any means.

                1. Party time
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Ziyech is as good as Kdb imo so I believe 16 + assists for Ziyech this season

                  1. Old Man
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Thanks for that - he looks like some player.

                2. FOO FIGHTER
                  • 4 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  You cannot take youtube as a meadure of how good a player is.

                  Iago Aspas looked like Messi on speed from Youtube videos.

                  Havertz is going to become the most expensive German player ever so that says something.

                  He is a superb talent and will thrive in an all out attack Chelsea.

                  1. FOO FIGHTER
                    • 4 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    *measure*

                  2. Old Man
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Maybe not - but at my age and with my bank balance I don't have the opportunities to fly out to Germanty to see him. 😀

                    1. FOO FIGHTER
                      • 4 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Lol, I do not watch Bundesliga but some reasearch like scout reports, what managers have to say about him which is only good things, points to the right attitude and already being a German International = a young player which is ready to go big.

                3. LAMELA_AND_CONSUELA
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  I watch die Bundesliga from time to time and If Chelsea get him it will be great signing. He is an exceptional talent. Some pundits describe him as a player who is simultaneosuly similar to Ozil and Ballack. And I agree with them.

                  1. FOO FIGHTER
                    • 4 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Lad is only 21 as well. He seems to have the righ attitude to go big as well.

                    These young player can have money going to their head easily. If Pulisic is one recent example which has done well for Chelsea, unfortunate to with all his injuries but his rise as one of the best young players at Chelsea is a very good sign for Havertz.

                4. NABIL - FPL otai
                  • 11 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Hleb was superb on YouTube

                  1. Party time
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Until when he joined Barca then he became shite...

                      Hleb was a fantastic player at Arsenal

                5. Powers106
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  My current team feels a little retro - ideas? Thanks!

                  McCarthy (Nyland)
                  TAA - Robertson - Vinagre - Justin (Ferguson)
                  Auba - Salah - Armstrong - Soucek
                  Kane - Vardy (Davis)

                  1. The Minus Fours
                    • 4 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Really like this - solid enough but with enough big hitters who can be rotated out for Man City/Man U in weeks to come....

                    1. Powers106
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Thanks, it does give me flexibility on each line using just 1FT per GW i think...

                  2. the dom 1
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Like the Vardy / Kane up front mate.

                    Whats ya plans for GW2 onwards with United and City assets? You planning on getting any of those in?

                    1. Powers106
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Yes, I definitely want KDB/Aguero and whichever ManU asset hits stride (if Bruno continues his consistency that would be great but I like Rashford more I think...) -- it's hard to know how to juggle it!

                  3. Camzy
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    It's too weak bench wise.

                    You have two 4.5m fodders + Soucek. Forces you to play all 4 of your 4.5m defenders every week.

                  4. jomikijiq
                    • 8 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    think Son + Mitro is better than Armstrong/Soucek + Kane

                    and even cheaper

                6. Egg noodle
                  • 14 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  This blank GW1 makes this the most difficult start to the season ever. I am really struggling to create a decent lineup. Should I

                  A) Pick amazing GW1 team and then WC GW2
                  B) Pick a longer term team

                  1. antis0cial
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    B and have plans to get City / Utd assets in for coming weeks

                    1. Egg noodle
                      • 14 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Thanks. It's a month long surgery to fit and Manchester assets, was struggling to convince myself that it is worth it

                      1. antis0cial
                        • 7 Years
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        I think with City having Wolves and Leicester up first sways it.

                  2. the dom 1
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    B

                  3. SADIO SANÉ
                    • 8 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    on B atm - think GW2 is too soon, but fixtures are set up quite nicely for a GW4 WC, which also gives a decent amount of assessment time (especially Chelsea)

                  4. Camzy
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Agreed. It's very hard this season.

                    Lots of choices and all the players I really want have blanks. I really want Fernandes + Martial to anchor my team this season. Both are undervalued relative to their output from end of last season.

                  5. Wild Card this!
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    I would suggest something in between...pick team for at least 2-3 GW with plan to get 1-2 Utd players for GW2 onwards and it pens out good - try to continue with your team - if not WC is always option.

                  6. Old Man
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Save that WC!!!!

                  7. NABIL - FPL otai
                    • 11 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    This blank GW1 makes this the most exciting start to the season ever - I can switch around the big hitters at my will

                7. antis0cial
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  How's it looking, defence too weak? The 4.5 defenders may well change.

                  McCarthy
                  TAA Vinagre Saliba
                  Salah Mane Auba ASM Soucek
                  Werner Mitro

                  Nyland Ferguson Dallas Davis

                  Very Rough idea of Transfers
                  Gw2 Mane > Bruno
                  Gw3 Auba > KDB
                  Gw4 ASM to Greenwood or Saliba to VVD

                  1. the dom 1
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Saliba > Justin?

                    1. antis0cial
                      • 7 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Yeah the 4.5's may well change, with Gabriel coming in Justin may be the better option assuming Pereira still not fit, thanks.

                8. David_23
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Currently choosing between two squads and trying to find a compromise.

                  1) Dubravka, Fabri
                  VVD, Doherty, Saliba, Mitchell, Justin
                  Salah, Auba, Son, Soucek, Foden
                  Mitro, Antonio, Jimenez

                  2) Allison, Fabri
                  same def
                  Salah, Maddison, Soucek, Foden, Willian
                  Vardy, Werner, Mitro

                  Any suggestions or advice what team to play or who to upgrade/change?

                9. Big boy Bowen
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  If you had to own one:

                  A) Mitrovic
                  B) Pereira

                  1. antis0cial
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    A

                  2. NABIL - FPL otai
                    • 11 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    A

                    1. Big boy Bowen
                      • 7 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Thanks both

                10. Amey
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Am I the only one who is more worried about possible rotation with Chelsea attackers ??

                  They have got almost new front line. Only Pedro/Willian left from lasts season.

                  1. antis0cial
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    I'd be very worried about rotation, especially when they are all bedding in at the start of the season. Werner is the safest choice into their attack for me.

                    1. Amey
                      • 5 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Yeah

                  2. Siva Mohan
                    • 11 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Kova Kante
                    Ziyech Kai Pulisic
                    Werner

                    Mount/Abraham/Giru may impact few mins ..

                    1. Big boy Bowen
                      • 7 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Jorginho too

                      1. Siva Mohan
                        • 11 Years
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        he is a CM/CDM .. you wouldn't own Kante or Kova which impacts their minutes

                        1. Big boy Bowen
                          • 7 Years
                          3 years, 7 months ago

                          True

                    2. Amey
                      • 5 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Can see Mount Tammy eating some minutes ..... I really like Pulisc... Waiting for him to be fit 😀

                      Can double up but don't wanna invest in a rotation merry

                  3. The Wanton Trader
                    • 6 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    As a Werner owner only, I’m not to concerned about rotation, but more that Abraham may consistently take minutes off him at the end of games.

                    1. Amey
                      • 5 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Exactly !

                  4. NABIL - FPL otai
                    • 11 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Adds more reason for me to monitor che first 😉

                  5. KGFC
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    I think Werner will share minutes with Tammy/Giroud at least in the beginning few GWs.

                    Kai will probably have to share his minutes with Mount.

                    Ziyech seems the most nailed to be on the pitch for 90 minutes. Plus, he will be good on deal ball duties too.

                11. i am jose mourinho
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  McCarthy
                  TAA Robbo Vinagre Davies
                  Auba Salah Son ASM
                  Werner Mitro
                  Nyland Stephens Ferguson Davis
                  Thoughts?

                  1. The Wanton Trader
                    • 6 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Very nice.... 😉

                  2. Wild Card this!
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Nice, balanced team if you’re option is to start with double Liverpool defense.
                    Personally, I opted for one and Greenwood on the bench for GW2...gives me more options.
                    Quite similar to my current team...

                12. Rotation's Alter Ego
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  It's slightly bait to think about it this way (it's really not this simple) but Chelsea's dealings in the last 2 seasons look very good in isolation, even including the potential Havertz fee.

                  IN
                  Werner - £47.7m
                  Ziyech - £36.0m
                  Havertz - £72.0m
                  Kovacic - £40.5m

                  OUT
                  Hazard - £130m
                  Morata - £58m
                  Pasalic - £13.5m
                  Aina - £9m
                  Kalas - £8m
                  Luiz - £8m
                  Hector - £8m

                  Spent: £196.2m
                  Received: £234.5m

                  1. Siva Mohan
                    • 11 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    you could add Pulisic too as he wa bought in Jan 2019.. no harm

                    may get something out of Baka/Bats/Moses/Emerson/Jorginho sales

                    1. Rotation's Alter Ego
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 12 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Yeah sorry, meant in terms of 19/20 and 20/21 transfers - my bad.

                      Yep, expect a fair few of them to go. More money from Nike + Three deal as well, which contributes roughly 100m a year between them but unfair to include that in these numbers.

                  2. Penzardlife
                    • 8 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    We're gearing up for a title run the season after this. Silva a great stop-gap CB in the meantime, and gives the team time to gel.

                13. ASOUSA12
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Hello guys,

                  Do you know if it's possible to download the FDR for the 2020/21 season from the Official FPL website (PDF format), similar to what we could do in previous season?

                  Cheers!

                14. AK ⭐
                  • 11 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  With all the news (and there's so much of it) on Chelsea business in this transfer window, I thought I'd share my thoughts and educated guess and predictions with you lot on how Frank Lampard would setup this new Chelsea side.

                  A few pointers on Lampard first.

                  - Lampard has played many formations this season, 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3, 3-4-3, 4-1-4-1 etc.

                  - He has never fielded 2 strikers together in the same lineup last season. Although this could change with Werner equally adept to playing as an inside Left Forward (similar to Mane/Sterling etc.)

                  - Lampard has mostly used 3-4-3 in games where the opposition also plays the same lineup, or where he needs stability and an additional defender.

                  - It's important to note that Lampard decided to play 4-3-3 in the Super Cup and against Manchester United in his first two games in charge. He only shifted to 3-4-3 later in games after Chelsea's defence was getting ripped open. Although the Liverpool Super cup game had a lot of positives. I personally think 4 man defence would be what he'd be aiming for right now.

                  How I think we will lineup with every player fit.

                  (4-2-3-1)

                  Caballero*

                  James Thiago Silva Rudiger* Chilwell

                  Kovacic Kante/Jorginho

                  Ziyech Havertz Pulisic

                  Werner

                  There could be a lot of rotation since the season will have 1 less month than usual and games coming in every 3-4 days for sides playing in Europe for months.

                  Set Pieces

                  Ziyech will be on corners imo. Mount on them after Ziyech if on field. Pulisic only took 4 corners all season, he's an option but last resort maybe.

                  Penalties

                  Jorginho has been the preferred penalty taker when on field. Willian was next in line. Now that Willian has left for Arsenal, my best guess would be Werner. He has taken a career total of 16 penalties for Leipzig, scoring 13 and missing 3. He took 5 penalties last season, scoring all of them.

                  Kai Havertz is also an option, who has taken 13 penalties, scoring every single one of them. He took 4 penalties for Leverkusen last season.

                  Personally, I think Werner is still the go-to option at 9.5m. The Atletic earlier reported that Werner has been told he will be played as the center forward at Chelsea.

                  Havertz's price is important here though, if he comes in at 8.5 or less, he could be in for a really strong shout. Especially if Lampard gives him the penalty duties seeing he's never missed one in his senior career. A total of 29 goals and 9 assists in the last 2 season in league alone is very good for a player of his age, although these goals were scored in the Bundesliga where we see a lot more goals than in other leagues.

                  In a nutshell. It's Werner > Havertz and Pulisic > Ziyech for me for FPL.

                  As for the defence, the signing for Thiago Silva could be a very shrewd one imo. With all the funds being tied up in other signings, Chelsea needed to sort the defence with low investments (until they sell more players) and Thiago Silva on a free is an upgrade on any Center Backs Chelsea has, even at the age of 35 right now.

                  Silva, if signed, would play on the Right side of the CB pairing. Assuming he nails his spot for the start at least, he'd be partnered by Rudiger/Zouma, since Christensen only plays RCB and Tomori is rumoured to be going out on loan.

                  Azpilicueta will still see a lot of gametime imo, but he will be phased out since the long term full back partnership seems to be Chilwell/James.

                  Lampard could further use 3-4-3 where he could play any 3 of the front 4 in any combination. But I am thinking/hoping it will be used to a much lesser degree this season.

                  Only just realised after writing that this has been a really long post, but I wanted to give you much more than just FPL picks to base your decisions around Chelsea.

                  Thank you if you made it this far and apologies for a really long post.

                  Any further inputs always welcome.

                  1. Thomas Jerome Newton
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Thought it was long before I started but a good read. Thanks.

                  2. The Minus Fours
                    • 4 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Great post - I can still seeing myself watch Chelsea for a few weeks and then make an informed decision on who looks like the player (or two) who is hard to go without rather than take a punt on who that fella may be.

                    If he was 100% fit from the go I would go for Pulisic all day long using the info we have (i.e. he looked awesome after re-start).

                    As he is carrying a knock it will be for the new guys to displace him as my go to Chelsea attacking asset as we speak today.

                15. Grouchy
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  RMT

                  McCathy
                  Justin Tierney Vinagre Roberston
                  Ziyech Aubamayeng Salah Maddison
                  Werner Ings

                  Bench: Martin, Ferguson, Davis, Stephens

                16. mclark802
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  I'm thinking about going with

                  Ryan
                  TAA/Davies/James
                  Son/Salah/ASM/Maddison/Fernandes
                  Antonio/Werner

                  Bench
                  Button
                  Bamford/Ferguson/Walker-Peters

                  What are peoples thoughts?

                17. Johnny too hotty
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  who is ASM?

                  1. Ronnie Hotdog
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 6 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Allan Saint-Maximin

                18. Visionaries
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Pretty settled on this. Any thoughts?

                  McCarthy
                  TAA, Ferguson, Justin, Vinagre (Lamptey)
                  Salah, Auba, Son, St Max (Greenwood)
                  Werner, Adams, (Davies)

                  0.5 ITB for rises