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What Spurs’ pre-season friendlies mean for their FPL attacking assets so far

Fantasy Premier League managers have now had the chance to watch Spurs on three occasions ahead of the new season – so what have we learned?

Jose Mourinho’s men come into 2020/21 with one of the most appealing set of fixtures, so interest in their attackers has been high.

Making sure we are invested in the right assets is important, so I have assessed some of the key talking points from pre-season, using some information from 2019/20 and Project Restart to back it up.

As this article uses Opta data, only those with a valid Fantasy Football Scout Membership package can access it in full.

Son’s Position

David’s Members’ only article comparing Son to Kane can be read here.

The Scout Notes for the friendly against Ipswich Town can read here. The extended highlights can be viewed here. And the full match can be found on the Spurs website.

Highlights of Spurs v Reading can viewed here.

The Scout Notes for the Spurs fixtures played during Project Restart are linked to below:

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  1. FOO FIGHTER
    • 1 Year
    2 months, 26 days ago

    I think Messi is pretty screwed now that La Liga have made known the clause which states to other clubs, pay up or no visa...

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 months, 26 days ago

      His argument is that he's already not a member of the club. There's going to be an ugly legal battle. But either way, there's no way that Messi plays for Barcelona next season. He's crossed the line. Worst case he does a Bale. Best case, he wins the case, gets to leave for free.

      1. Berbs
        • 10 Years
        2 months, 26 days ago

        Players have done for worse and still played for the club. It's a huge political power move from all parties.

      2. Pep bites Kun
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 26 days ago

        He's still under contract though, has an obligation regardless of personal opinion, and could lead to costly litigation.

        Wouldn't work for either party and I wouldn't see it going there, but with one year left on his contract he could just 'sit it out' as in 'work to rule'. No bonuses, but would result in a free transfer which would equate to a HUGE wage 🙂 which may even put Sanchez in the shade ...

        1. Stef rocks
          • 3 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Bro Messi current wage is almost 1M per week. Yes you read that correct per week. So how much do you expect him to earn when he will be 35 next year ?

          1. Pep bites Kun
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Have to say I didn't realise that. It's an enormous sum of money for one guy regardless of talent. I thought the PL was out of whack, but this is not market average and is into the ridiculous zone. Exactly how many shirts or TV time do you have to conjure to make a margin!?

            As I stated already he's a supreme player, but not in my book worth 1m per week as a business. I'd expect at least a brace or hat-trick per game for that kind of money. I know he plays and scores well at Barca, but among strong competition in EPL I doubt he'll reach the same heights and it is with this reasoning I hope he stays at Barca to see out his own legend.

            We play FPL with 100m. That itself is a ridiculous budget for a football team. The goal is to score goal in a wide net. The game is beyond itself in player value.

            1. Pep bites Kun
              • 4 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              *apologies for the rant, but 1m/week? 🙂

        2. Would Ed Woodward
          • 1 Year
          2 months, 26 days ago

          His wage already dwarfs what we stupidly paid Sanchez, apparently he's on close to £1m a week.

          1. Pep bites Kun
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Had no idea. I knew his buyout clause was Euro 700m, but 1m a week is beyond my comprehension as a fan of football 🙂

  2. FPL ElasticO
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 months, 26 days ago

    How is this draft ?? Any suggestions are welcome....

    McCarthy
    Davies/ Vinagre/ Robbo
    Salah/ Auba/ Son/ JWP/ Pereira
    Mitrovic/ Werner

    Bench:: Nyland/ Justin/ Mitchell/ Davies

    1. Vazza
        2 months, 26 days ago

        Nice team

      • Pep bites Kun
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 26 days ago

        Nice team, but could be 2 short come gw1 - is Vinagre nailed? Pereira flagged through knee injury ETA Oct. So you may be using bench - good enough cover?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 11 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Periera plays for WBA and isn't a defender.

    2. Covid Martial
      • 3 Years
      2 months, 26 days ago

      I'm planning on winning FPL this year and yeah it feels good.

      1. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
        • 5 Years
        2 months, 26 days ago

        Fair enough - can I finish 2nd?

        1. Vazza
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Fair enough - can I finish 3rd?

            1. Covid Martial
              • 3 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              You've got believe you will finish second and third respectively but then yeah sure.

              1. kevchenko
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 5 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                I do, I've done it before 😉

        2. kevchenko
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          I'll come 3rd (again) then...

          1. Lord - Blaming it on Rio
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Podium’s taken - might as well give up.

            1. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
              • 5 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              😆

          2. JohnnyRev7
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Bloody hell! You did! Nice one. 😎

            1. kevchenko
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              Haha, thanks - it has taken me 4 years to get over it....

        3. Pep bites Kun
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          I'd like to offer congratulations in advance 😉

          Shouldn't that be SUNNY AND SCHAR?

        4. Sharkytect
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          What's your team so i can copy it?

      2. Noah’s Ark
        • 7 Years
        2 months, 26 days ago

        Are Arsenal going to continue with the formation they used in the community shield? Tierney as LCB is not staying in my team.

        1. Dthinger
          • 3 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          I think so

        2. Lemongrab
          • 11 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Yes formation wise but Gabriel when he signs will likely slot in to that LCB slot allowing Tierney to play wingback.

        3. Pukki Blinders
          • 1 Year
          2 months, 26 days ago

          If AMN goes to Wolves he will shift to wingback

          1. kevchenko
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            That deal is off 🙁

      3. Brosstan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 months, 26 days ago

        Expected Goals on Target?? Another completely nonsensical term...

        1. Amey
          • 2 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Things created to make Salah owners feel good ....

          1. COK3Y5MURF
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            And then we actually watch him and want to pull our hair out every time he misses a chance 🙂

            1. Amey
              • 2 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              They should add bps for Shots On Stadium !

              1. St. Stephen XI
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 1 Year
                2 months, 26 days ago

                The Bobby Zamora stat.

                1. mynameisq
                  • 7 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  xZ

                  Expected Zamora's

                  1. kevchenko
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 5 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    hahaha

                    Love that.

        2. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          It's not non-sensical though, is it? If you rate a player as a good finisher but he's not getting the chances, then you can use that stat to ignore them and pick someone better.

          1. Berbs
            • 10 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Stats are like bikinis.

            What they show is great, what they hide is greater.

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              stretch marks?

            2. Amey
              • 2 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              People like me are earning meals by selling what's inside the Bikini 😆
              (Data Analytics Companies & their employees)

          2. Brosstan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            'Expected Goals on Target' is complete nonsense, its gibberish.

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              From a given shot position:

              xG = expected goal
              xG on Target = expected shot on target (ignoring the quality of the keeper)

            2. Brosstan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              Having a stat that adjusts xG so it takes into account finishing ability is of course good. It's just the term is bollocks, it's like the person who coined the term doesn't speak English as it makes no sense

              1. Twisted Saltergater
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                If xG on Target is effectively an indicator of how many shots from that position go on target, then I don't have a problem with this nomenclature. It's a stat that tells us if the player is being given shooting opportunities in good positions, and not a stat that says they will score that many goals.

                I could have the same xG as Henry (or higher), but I'm not going to score as many.

                1. Brosstan
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  I'm not sure you get what I'm annoyed about..

                  1. Twisted Saltergater
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Ah, your point has probably gone clean over my head.

        3. Flair
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          2 months, 26 days ago

          lmao, agreed. What's xG then, expected goals off target?

        4. El Fenomeno R9
          • 5 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Lies, damned lies, and statistics

        5. Blush Response
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Why is it nonsensical?

        6. Pep bites Kun
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Lies, more lies and then there are statistics 🙂

          They're not bad indicators for comparison purpose, but they can mislead when taken out of the context they were meant for or more so in isolation

      4. kevchenko
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 months, 26 days ago

        This is where I'm at for GW1

        McCarthy, (Nyland)
        TAA, Doherty, Vinagre, (Justin, Mitchell)
        Auba(c) Salah Son Saka Soucek
        Vardy Carroll (Mitro)

        GW2 Salah to Bruno(c)
        GW3 Vardy to Aguero

        Any thoughts, please?

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Vardy, Carroll Mitro is not a forward line I've seen very often.

          Prefer Werner, Adams, Mitro myself but the rest of the team is pretty sound.

          1. kevchenko
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Werner - bri, LIV
            Vardy - wba, BUR

            Planning to make it Aguero for GW3 .... obviously I'd prefer Adams over Carroll, he's unlikely to still be in my team in 10 days time 🙁

        2. Amey
          • 2 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          I love Vardy pick !

          Different team. GL

          1. kevchenko
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Cheers, Vardy is a big gamble it seems given how bang average Leicester were and with their injuries/transfers at the moment...

            Not sure how brave I'll remain.

            1. Amey
              • 2 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              He has best XGI after restart.
              Good 4 out of 5 fixtures & a City team vulnerable on counters.

              I'm most probably joining you. Trying to find Money to upgrade Ings to Vardy

            2. pingissimus
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              2 months, 26 days ago

              Also currently on him.

              May switch but the downgrade is always easier than the upgrade and Werner has an absolute stinker in GW2.

              Can’t see sense in Mitro on bench really. Are you keeping for around 6/7 when Fulham do get slightly better fixtures? Or does he rotate with Soucek? Value is being spread thinly imo

              1. kevchenko
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 5 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                Yeah that's a good point, it's mainly that Saka may miss a gameweek so I feel I need the additional playing player....

                Carroll may not be the best way to go though....

      5. Amey
        • 2 Years
        2 months, 26 days ago

        Hamesh Rodriguez lost the ball in the attacking third .... Hojbjerg did excellent recovery tackle ....

        La celso found Irish Wing Back Matt Doherty who's running away on a counter like a madman .... Crosses the ball & Sonsational finish !!

        (Wakes up*)

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Clearly a dream. Son would be at LB 😛

          1. Amey
            • 2 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Perfect scenario.
            Kane dropping deep to push wing backs forward

        2. Flair
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          2 months, 26 days ago

          1-0 Holgate OG, carbon copy of the restart

      6. Tashi Tshering
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Hey peoples I'm new to FPL.
          Can you guys give me some tips and advices
          Here is my team.

          McCarthy
          TAA Egan Vinagre
          Son saint-Maximin Lundstram Auba salah(c)
          Werner Ings
          Bench--- Nyland Davis Mitchell and Branthwaite

          1. Berbs
            • 10 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Considering your new to FPL, your structure is very good.

            I'd swap Lundstram for someone else, rest is ace.

            1. Tashi Tshering
                2 months, 26 days ago

                Thank you!!
                Who would you swap Lundstram for??

                1. Berbs
                  • 10 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Armstrong

            2. Dont_Win_Friends_With_Salah…
              • 3 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              Get rid of Lundstram to begin with. But team looks pretty good

            3. kevchenko
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              Yeah looks good - agree with Berbs, Lundstram has to come out (was a defender last year, no chance he gets as many points this year).

              Personally I'd get Soucek in for him for 5.0 and upgrade one of your bench players to somebody that plays...

              1. Tashi Tshering
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Thank you for your suggestions guys and should I rotate Salah with KDB or Auba with KDB in GW 2.
                  Or should I bring in bruno
                  I'll be very thankful if you suggest me this...

              2. Lucas8406
                • 1 Year
                2 months, 26 days ago

                Lundstram for Soucek, ASM or Armstrong

            4. Doosra - ☭A Noble Grape…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              Great article. Thanks.

            5. Will J 256
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              2 months, 26 days ago

              Hi guys. Thoughts on this current draft?
              McCarthy
              Trent, Vinagre, Justin,
              Salah, Son, Auba, Ziyech, ASM,
              Werner, Mitrovic

              Steer, Mitchell, Brewster, C Taylor

              Need to monitor Ziyech’s injury but apart from that feel quite settled?

              1. kevchenko
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 5 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                Looks good for GW1...

                What you planning after that?

                1. Penzardlife
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  With similar team I’m planning Auba to KDB for gw3, and Son to Rashford. I have Ings up top too though, and could opt for Martial over Ings too.

            6. Tony Martial
              • 1 Year
              2 months, 26 days ago

              Which is better?

              McCarthy Steer
              Trent Lamptey KWP Vinagre C.Taylor
              Salah Auba ASM Periera Anguissa
              Kane Werner Mitrovic.

              McCarthy Steer
              Trent Lamptey KWP Vinagre C.Taylor
              Salah Auba ASM Son Soúcek
              Ings Werner Brewster.

              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 11 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                What are the differences?

                1. Z
                  • 3 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Forward is comletly difference 🙂

                  1. TorresMagic™
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 11 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Werner has a brother?

              2. Dthinger
                • 3 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                A

              3. Amey
                • 2 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                Later team because you used THAT c in Soucek 😀

                1. Amey
                  • 2 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Ù i mean*
                  FFS

              4. Houldsworth Hatter
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                B

              5. Tashi Tshering
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  I'm new to Fpl can you tell me who is ASM??

                  1. Lemongrab
                    • 11 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Saint-Maximan (Newcastle)

              6. Z
                • 3 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                Different

                1. Z
                  • 3 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  HHahhahahahahahah

                  1. Amey
                    • 2 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    You fine bro ?

              7. St. Stephen XI
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 1 Year
                2 months, 26 days ago

                Wondering if anyone is willing to address this question of general strategy . . .

                5.5/4.5 mids (one on bench) knowing that the 4.5 mid is generally useless.
                5/5 mids (Soucek and Matt Ritchie - one on bench) having the flexibility to play matchups and a little additional cover in the age of COVID and fixture congestion.

                Is this just a variation of the 4.5/4.5 GK vs 4.5/4 GK debate?

                1. tomasjj
                  • 6 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Do you have three playing strikers and five playing defenders?

                  If not, I'd want that 5th midfielder to be playing.

                  1. St. Stephen XI
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 1 Year
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Currently five playing defenders (AWB blank week one, but the other four start the season with regular minutes).
                    Currently two playing strikers plus Brewster.

                    After the week one blank from AWB the only question mark left is over Brewster, but at some point I'll have to address Vinagre and/or Justin.

                    After I've made my United/City transfers, I should be looking at this going into week 3

                    McCarthy, Steer
                    TAA, AWB, Saiss, Vinagre, Justin
                    Bruno, Rashford, Sterling, (ASM/fodder or Soucek/Ritchie)
                    Werner, Jimi, Brewster

                2. Kun Tozser
                  • 5 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  5.5 and 4.4 for me

                  The main reason being that there are more options at 5.5 to switch. It seems there are only 2 x 5 mid options Soucek and Richtie, unless you plan on holding and not wasting transfers on

                  1. St. Stephen XI
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 1 Year
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    I don't know. I'm kind of liking the idea of the collection of Vinagre, Justin, Soucek, and Ritchie knowing that I can choose two and bench two depending on matchups while having the security of cover in case one of my regular eight outfield players gets an unexpected day off.

                    If there's a 5.0 defender that makes moving off Vinagre/Justin in favor of 5.0/Ben Johnson a clearly superior move, I'm not seeing it. When Wolves and Leicester return to full health, I will make the switch to 5/4; but for now I don't see the concentration of value being worth more than the flexibility. It's also part of having to cover the AWB blank week one. Maybe I'll go to the 5/4 combo when Ferguson returns to full health and establishes himself as a regular starter.

                    Same thing with Ritchie/Soucek. Keeping an eye on Newcastle's preseason to see if Ritchie is sticking in a more forward position, but I don't know if the upgrade to ASM is worth losing Soucek over who I see as a season-long guy but with nightmarish fixtures that I'd like to avoid early in the season.

              8. Tashi Tshering
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Currently in my squad I have Salah and Auba both in my midfield. Can you guys suggest me if I should bring KDB for Salah or For Auba. OR should I bring in Bruno in GW 2 since he have good fixture.

                  1. Lemongrab
                    • 11 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    I'm probably doing Salah to Fernandes gw2 then Auba to KDB gw3

                • Penzardlife
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  This makes me think about Son to Ziyech, Ings to Kane (sacrificing a little elsewhere)

                  No doubt someone can talk some sense into me.

                  1. hewittj1
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 5 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Ziyech picked up a knee injury in Chelsea's friendly. Son is a better price point for multiple midfield options. Striker options there are not many replacements for Kane (aguero and Vardy is all I can see). Kane has had 0 minuted in pre season

                  2. KGFC
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 4 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    For that very precise, I've been avoiding Son while everywhere here seems to be on a bandwagon.
                    I really like Son as a player and would have snapped him, just like in previous seasons, had it been a Poch team or a more attack-minded manager team. Unfortunately, Son will be hugging the sidelines for too much for a 9.0 mid.

                • Goonermeister
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 3 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Thoughts on this?

                  McCarthy
                  Robbo Egan Vinagre Justin
                  Salah Son Soucek Pulisic
                  Werner Ings

                  Nyland Johnson Rashford Davis

                  Cheers

                  1. Super Saints
                    • 4 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    I wouldn't want Vinagre and Justin, both transfers waiting to happen at some point.
                    Pulisic still injured no?
                    Apparently Steer is ahead of Nyland in the pecking order.

                • Super Saints
                  • 4 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  One slight tweak and the team is perfected! 1.5 ITB for Son to Bruno.

                  McCarthy
                  TAA Doherty Egan Vinagre
                  Salah Auba Son Soucek
                  Vardy Mitrovic
                  Steer Brewster Anguissa Johnson

                  1. TorresMagic™
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 11 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Perfection is in the eye of the beholder.

                    1. Super Saints
                      • 4 Years
                      2 months, 26 days ago

                      Haha

                  2. pingissimus
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 1 Year
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    At least Auba and Vardy shoot straight - so not all is lost 🙂

                    1. Super Saints
                      • 4 Years
                      2 months, 26 days ago

                      What do you mean bro?

                      1. pingissimus
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 1 Year
                        2 months, 26 days ago

                        Neither Mo or Mitro are very straight shooters - need plenty of XG. Auba Vardy balances it out

                        1. Goonsquad245
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 4 Years
                          2 months, 26 days ago

                          Out of interest, how do you think Mo’s career xG delta stacks up vs Auba’s?

                          1. COK3Y5MURF
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 4 Years
                            2 months, 26 days ago

                            Should look at his last two seasons rather than career because he's been a different player since. No one is debating that he was clinical in his debut season.

                            1. Goonsquad245
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 4 Years
                              2 months, 26 days ago

                              If we’re cherry picking stats, we can look at Mo last season vs Auba last season? The narrative was exactly the same then.

                              Auba hasn’t suddenly massively improved his finishing - last season was a period of over performance. Same with Ings. Same with Salah in his first season at Liverpool.

                              Looking at career stats is the fairest way to do it IMO.

                              1. Goonsquad245
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 4 Years
                                2 months, 26 days ago

                                Sorry, season before last. 18/19.

                              2. COK3Y5MURF
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 4 Years
                                2 months, 26 days ago

                                I'd rather look at most recent eye test.

                                If you believe Salah will improve his finishing and his xG Delta this season, that's a totally fair opinion. But I would base that opinion on actually watching him play and looking for signs of improvement in his finishing rather than assuming that since he ONCE did it three years ago, it's going to happen again due to variance. Players change.

                                Auba is on fire right now to be scoring against Man City, Chelsea, AND Liverpool. Are you going to ignore that and assume his xG Delta will reduce again just because it was lower a year ago? Remember that their season totals don't matter. What matters is who you think will score the most points between Salah, Mane, and Auba in the first 1-5 weeks (however long you're planning for), and season stats won't help you nail that.

                                1. Goonsquad245
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 4 Years
                                  2 months, 26 days ago

                                  That’s cool, I disagree on eye test being the best route, but that’s fine, plenty of ways to skin a cat.

                                  I was just disagreeing with the narrative that Salah is a poor finisher - I’m not expecting him to overperform like he did 3 years ago, but I would expect him to perform at or slightly better than xG as per his career.

                                  On Auba scoring against good teams recently - I don’t put much stock in recent results to be honest, variance happens in short spells no matter what the fixtures look like, and I don’t really believe in ‘form’. Long term sustainability for me, and I wouldn’t expect Auba to score the same number of goals from the same xG this season. Doesn’t make him a bad option.

                                  1. COK3Y5MURF
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 4 Years
                                    2 months, 26 days ago

                                    How long do you mean when you say long-term sustainability though? Because long-term sustainability is exactly what to look for in FPL Draft, but in FPL, we plan for short blocks of fixtures and hop between players based on form and fixtures to maximize on points.

                                    1. Goonsquad245
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 4 Years
                                      2 months, 26 days ago

                                      So I use that to create a baseline expectation in an ‘average’ fixture and then try to apply a multiplier based on fixture strength. I agree taking into account fixtures is really important - I’m not expecting to own anyone for the entire season really.

                                      So by long term sustainability - I mean good enough previous underlying stats (ideally over a large sample) to make me believe that a player is the real deal within the realms of realistic xG overperformance as opposed to drastically over performing and super likely to regress.

                        2. Super Saints
                          • 4 Years
                          2 months, 26 days ago

                          Oh yes I see what you mean. Salah will be KDB shortly

                • DannyDrinkVodka
                  • 1 Year
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Doesn’t look to be a difference in quality when you’ve got a 5.0 like Soucek, so I would say 2 5.0 players could be quite good, maybe you could split the difference and go for the extra budget giving you Soucek plus ASM?

                  1. DannyDrinkVodka
                    • 1 Year
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Reply fail

                  2. St. Stephen XI
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 1 Year
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    but much appreciated nevertheless.

                    West Ham's early fixtures have me off Soucek right now, but if Ritchie is going to play on the left of three behind the striker, then Soucek/Ritchie would be an intriguing upgrade over my current selection of ASM/4.5 fodder.

                • Doosra - ☭A Noble Grape…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Any more news on Button, please?

                  1. TorresMagic™
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 11 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Probably stays at Brighton.

                    1. Doosra - ☭A Noble Grape…
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 10 Years
                      2 months, 26 days ago

                      Bother. Thanks.

                  2. Amey
                    • 2 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    No news = Good news

                • SAY MY NAME
                  • 3 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  right, i've got my squad sorted at last, one place left, just need a playing -3.5m midfielder and i'm done 🙂

                  1. Doosra - ☭A Noble Grape…
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 10 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    😆

                  2. Pasqualinho
                    • 11 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Lingard must be somewhere around that price?

                    1. SAY MY NAME
                      • 3 Years
                      2 months, 26 days ago

                      perfect! knew there had to be an option 🙂

                • pingissimus
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 1 Year
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Anyone else thinking of parking Ayling/Dallas on bench for just in case? The CB has been brought in.

                  Cheap 6 pointer in week 2 anyway when hosting Mitro 🙂

                  1. Amey
                    • 2 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Too many options in Defense tbh

                    1. pingissimus
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 1 Year
                      2 months, 26 days ago

                      See the preseason pool of 4.5 certs shrinking slightly 🙂 Vinagre, Justin and Saliba all seem popular but wouldn’t really fancy being on them

                      Suspect I’m going to end up with 5.0 with a 4.5 standby. Not really rotation- only for big 2/3/4 matches.

                      1. Amey
                        • 2 Years
                        2 months, 26 days ago

                        Taylor Vinagre KWP stands out.
                        Shaw is great price point.

                        Taa VVD is where my heart is set. Doherty looks like might be THE player to own from Spurs ...

                        1. pingissimus
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 1 Year
                          2 months, 26 days ago

                          You reckon Shaw will be fit. Love it if he is.

                          Going a bit off Wolves right now. Doubt Vinagre starts anyway. May ditch KWP as I can’t bring myself to go Ryan again.

                          1. Amey
                            • 2 Years
                            2 months, 26 days ago

                            I'm considering 4 atb very seriously.
                            Soucek as 7th attacker.

                            1. pingissimus
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 1 Year
                              2 months, 26 days ago

                              That’s what I’m on pretty much - think I’m prepared to “punt” on Man U defence to GW9 WC. Huge upside if they maintain form and prepared to risk the 0.5/1 mill extra in defence.

                              Wrinkle is Doh. If I forego him it all becomes very affordable. But instinct says he’ll be a hit at Spurs and Mou intends to use him in his Wolves role. Put him in and cash becomes tight

                              1. Amey
                                • 2 Years
                                2 months, 26 days ago

                                Exactly !
                                It's very difficult to manage everything with Doherty.

                                I'm being forced to go with only one Pool in Defense due to that

                                1. pingissimus
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 1 Year
                                  2 months, 26 days ago

                                  Tbh think one Liverpool defence is smart play.

                                  General form fell off before lockdown. Also there’s a major fixture turn falling conveniently after City match up which looks good for a rejig to power defence if they’re looking good by then

                                  1. Amey
                                    • 2 Years
                                    2 months, 26 days ago

                                    You're right.

                  2. COK3Y5MURF
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 4 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Yeah, but longer-term, I think I'd prefer Burnely, so I'm on Taylor

                    1. COK3Y5MURF
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 4 Years
                      2 months, 26 days ago

                      Burnley*

                • Pep bites Kun
                  • 4 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  What's the feeling on Bale - will he play in PL again and would you see it as a positive?

                  A. Yes
                  B. Past his sell by date

                  *posted in an earlier article, at end

                  1. Lemongrab
                    • 11 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Don't think he will. The only teams that could afford his ridiculous wages don't need him.

                • Penzardlife
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Large question: Kane+ Ziyech or Ings+Son?

                  1. Lemongrab
                    • 11 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    K+Z easy

                • HollywoodXI
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Can you afford Kane and Ings?

                  1. Penzardlife
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 5 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    I have Werner and Kane, so possibly.

                    1. Penzardlife
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 5 Years
                      2 months, 26 days ago

                      Werner and Ings*!

                      1. HollywoodXI
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 6 Years
                        2 months, 26 days ago

                        My front three is exactly that: Kane, Werner and Ings.

                  2. ClassiX
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 2 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    I currently have the current draft:
                    Ryan/Button
                    TAA, Doherty, KWP, Justin, Mitchell
                    Auba, Son, 8.0 (Ziyech/Willian), JWP, ASM
                    Kane, Ings, Davis
                    1.0 ITB

                    Ings could be Jimenez, of course.
                    Kane could become Martial
                    Son could become Bruno
                    Auba could become Salah/Mane or KDB/Sterling

                • Kobayashi
                  • 1 Year
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Is it overly ambitious to plan for 3 GWs worth of transfers, if two of them are for key City/United players?

                  I know what happens - early bandwagons emerge, and all those carefully laid plans go out the window once people start looking at price rises. If it was anything beyond three I'd be highly doubtful myself, but I think it's a realistic timeframe with which to work with. Thoughts?

                  1. Indpush
                    • 2 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Why not? Just be flexible if plans don't pan out as expected due to other circumstances. Have fun with it for now and be ready.

                  2. Camzy
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 10 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    It's too much. The only plan I have is to roll GW2 and then in GW 3 I will see what has to be done. If that means doing a mini WC I will do that. But the aim is to have a team to roll a transfer in GW2.

                    1. Kobayashi
                      • 1 Year
                      2 months, 26 days ago

                      Fair enough, I figured one or two was expected but three was still achievable. Thanks!

                • Steevo
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Is this THE template?

                  McCarthy
                  TAA | Doherty | Vinagre
                  Salah | Auba | Son | ASM | Soucek
                  Werner | Mitrovic

                  4.0 | Justin | Mitchell | Davis ; 1.5ITB

                  1. HollywoodXI
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 6 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Pretty much

                  2. maniacsfpl
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Not sure I'm convinced the impact Doherty will have at Spurs

                  3. xiMoxiee
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 6 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    It sure is. Nothing wrong with that

                  4. Amey
                    • 2 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Yup

                  5. Chazz69
                    • 4 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Templates don't work

                • 2004
                  • 1 Year
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  RMT
                  McCarthy
                  Trent Vinagre Justin
                  Salah Auba Son Soucek
                  Ings Vardy Mitrovic

                  1. xHaTr
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 2 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Identical to my starting 11!

                • Cheeto__Bandito
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Doherty is better than any 6.5 mid or forward and will score more than every 5.5 and below defender, but people will still call him a bad option.

                    1. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 11 Years
                      2 months, 26 days ago

                      Will he score more than all the 6m defenders?

                      1. Cheeto__Bandito
                          2 months, 26 days ago

                          that is the question. I think yes.

                        • Zim0
                          • 2 Years
                          2 months, 26 days ago

                          Most probably

                      2. KujaliaFC
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        2 months, 26 days ago

                        Will he perform as well in Mourinho's system?

                      3. St. Stephen XI
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 1 Year
                        2 months, 26 days ago

                        Will he outscore AWB enough to merit the marginal 0.5? That was the question that moved me off Doc.

                        1. Pukki Blinders
                          • 1 Year
                          2 months, 26 days ago

                          can't compare AWB to Doherty offensively

                          1. St. Stephen XI
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 1 Year
                            2 months, 26 days ago

                            and that is the question that's driving the discussion. How much will Doc's attacking numbers suffer under Mourinho, and does that regression make the marginal points difference such that a player who is 0.5 cheaper becomes a more attractive option given the change the money allows elsewhere.

                            Of course, if you see the move to Spurs as being points neutral you should stick with Doherty. If you expect some level of regression, that invites the question of whether he remains the best 6.0 option and/or whether there are 5.5 defenders who are "close enough" to Doherty in expected production that your overall productivity would be improved if you invested the marginal 0.5 elsewhere. I think you're seeing a lot of discussion about Doherty because people have become much less sure about that answer.

                            I had Doherty rated as a must have before all the transfer talk started, but now he's much more in the "I wonder" column of my fantasy mind. Given that there are some budget entries into Wolves defense, I did a little rearranging and decided that I liked having the money to afford Werner more than I wanted to see how the Doherty story will pan out with Spurs.

                            1. Pukki Blinders
                              • 1 Year
                              2 months, 26 days ago

                              I have also tinkered, and I'm struggling to fit Doc in with my current template so may just go without. If Aurier stays I almost certainly will avoid Doc, don't need the further threat of rotation on him.

                    2. Zim0
                      • 2 Years
                      2 months, 26 days ago

                      What is better? Trent and a 8-9 mid or a 4.5 def and Auba?

                      1. xHaTr
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 2 Years
                        2 months, 26 days ago

                        Auba and Trent are both essential, try again

                        1. Zim0
                          • 2 Years
                          2 months, 26 days ago

                          Okay thanks buddy. Helped so much

                      2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 4 Years
                        2 months, 26 days ago

                        A

                      3. Kobayashi
                        • 1 Year
                        2 months, 26 days ago

                        If you 'had' to pick between the two, then the former gives you the greater flexibility and likely combined points return. If you don't have another one or two solid captaincy options, then B.

                      4. Boywiththesoupdragontattoo
                        • 3 Years
                        2 months, 26 days ago

                        The option with Trent.