Scout Notes

How Southampton solved their defensive issues as Ings outscores Adams again

Burnley 0-1 Southampton

  • Goals: Danny Ings (£8.4m)
  • Assists: Che Adams (£5.9m)
  • Bonus points: Ings x3, Jan Bednarek x2 (£4.5m), Ryan Bertrand x2 (£5.0m)

Danny Ings (£8.4m) remains one of the most reliable forwards in the Premier League despite the £2.5m price hike ahead of the 2020/21 campaign.

The Southampton man added his third goal of the campaign in a 1-0 win at Burnley on Saturday, the most of any colleague and behind only Dominic Calvert-Lewin (£7.4m), Jamie Vardy (£10.0m) and an injured Son Heung-min (£9.0m) in the early stages of the Golden Boot race.

Crucially, Ings is still offering a degree of Fantasy value, despite that more expensive price for the new season. After three Gameweeks, he is inside the top 10 among forwards for points per million spent (2.6). As things stand, Harry Kane (£10.5m) and Vardy (2.7 and 3.2 respectively) are the only dearer forwards to outperform Ings in that respect.

However, the former Burnley and Liverpool man will have plenty of opportunities to soar up those rankings when Southampton host West Bromwich Albion in Gameweek 4.

The Baggies may have stunned Chelsea into a 3-0 half-time lead at the Hawthorns but they still conceded a further three goals of their own in the second half. That means Slaven Bilic’s men have given up 11 goals in their first three matches of the campaign. No English top-flight side has conceded that many goals in their opening three league games since Arsenal in 1963/64 (12).

While further attacking returns are very much on the cards for Ings on Sunday, one minor question that may hang over Ings from a slightly more long-term perspective is whether or not he can sustain goals on a short supply of shots.

While he has three goals in the last two matches, Ings has only taken three shots in that time. At Burnley on Saturday, the Southampton forward was limited to just the one effort. 

Once West Bromwich Albion are out of the way, the Saints face Chelsea (away), Everton (home) and Aston Villa (away), each of which could prove an important test of his Fantasy appeal for the rest of the season. If these sides keep Ings as limited shot-wise as Spurs and Burnley did, it might be difficult for him to continue the current run of form.

Frank Lampard’s men have certainly had defensive issues this year but after the international break, Edouard Mendy (£5.0m) will be considerably more bedded into the team, while Thiago Silva (£5.5m) will have settled in a little more too. It will be interesting to see if Chelsea can take a more assured defence into that Gameweek 5 fixture.

While Ings’ Gameweek 6 opponent Everton have kept only one clean sheet so far this season, a trip to Aston Villa in Gameweek 7 may prove challenging too. Dean Smith’s men are yet to concede this season, have four clean sheets in their last six Premier League outings, three of which came at Villa Park.

However, if Ings does come through this run with a handful of more attacking returns, then the Fantasy community are sure to take notice.

It has taken some time for owners of Che Adams (£5.9m) to be rewarded for their patience, although they might have hoped for more from the trip to Burnley.

The former Birmingham City man has been unfortunate thus far this season, recording the same number of shots in the box and big chances as Ings, but falling slightly short on accuracy. As a result, he is still without a goal this season and is usually one of the first to be replaced by Ralph Hasenhüttl in the second half. So far in 2020/21, Adams is yet to complete 90 minutes in the Premier League, averaging just over 79 minutes per appearance.

Like Ings, he was restricted to just one effort on goal at Turf Moor, although it would be sensible to assume he will be handed more opportunities by West Bromwich Albion’s leaky defence on Sunday.

Furthermore, while Adams is currently 14 Fantasy points behind Ings, Gameweek 3 once again highlighted the cheaper forward’s superior creativity compared to his strike-partner. Against Burnley, Adams registered his first assist of the campaign, having outperformed Ings for key passes thus far – which could bode well for the Baggies’ trip to St. Mary’s.

Considering that Alex McCarthy (£4.5m) remains the most popular Fantasy goalkeeper, currently sat in 18.7% of teams, Southampton’s defensive improvement in Gameweek 3 was a welcome one for many.

Having deployed a perilously high line at home against Spurs, Hasenhüttl dropped his back-four back considerably at Turf Moor. He also made one change, dropping Jack Stephens (£4.9m) to the bench, replacing him with Jannik Vestergaard (£4.5m).

That made for a much more secure foundation from which to operate in Gameweek 3, earning Southampton their first clean sheet of the campaign.

“It wasn’t a good start to the season but we have focused our work this week on the defence and it was fantastic to see how much they had invested today.” – Ralph Hasenhüttl

While Emi Martínez (£4.5m) certainly looks an attractive option moving forward, anyone hoping to hold their transfers and not spend a Wildcard may be encouraged by a few of McCarthy’s underlying numbers from Saturday.

The Saints’ goalkeeper was just one save short of an additional point at Turf Moor, while his total BPS score was just one away from pushing him into a share of bonus. A Gameweek 4 meeting with West Bromwich Albion might help him make a breakthrough on both of those counts.

That said, Southampton were helped in their clean sheet exploits no end by Burnley’s ongoing squad problems.

They came into Gameweek 3 without James Tarkowski (£5.4m), Ben Mee (£5.0m), Robbie Brady (£5.0m), Jack Cork (£5.0m), Johann Berg Gudmundsson (£5.4m), Jay Rodriguez (£5.9m) and Ashley Barnes (£6.0m).

Those absences left the Clarets rather short in every department and, with a large number of youngsters on the bench, Sean Dyche did not make a single substitution all night – almost certainly to send a message to the board.

“The chairman knows what is required. Action. We need players. It is a challenge though, here, it always has been. We have two experienced defenders on the bench and that is it. We are reliant on what we have. It is a challenge but we will have players back fit.” – Sean Dyche

Newcastle, Tottenham and Chelsea are three of Burnley’s next four opponents and if the Clarets do not improve their personnel problems between now and Gameweek 7, those clubs’ defensive assets certainly look like attractive prospects.

The ongoing list of absentees in Lancashire is helpful in one other respect: budget defensive options. Tarwkoski and Mee’s injuries have allowed Jimmy Dunne (£4.0m) to start two matches in a row now and, after two matches, the budget asset is actually Burnley’s top-scoring defender – useful for anyone Wildcarding right now.

Burnley XI (4-4-2): Pope; C Taylor, Dunne, K Long, Bardsley; McNeil, D Stephens, Westwood, Brownhill; Vydra, Wood.

Southampton XI (4-4-2): A McCarthy; Bertrand, Vestergaard, Bednarek, Walker-Peters; Djenepo (Tella 77′), Romeu, Ward-Prowse, Armstrong; Ings, Adams (Obafemi 77′).

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1,089 Comments Post a Comment
  1. davies
    • 6 Years
    2 months, 14 hours ago

    Assuming the transfer goes through, and all are fit, which option?

    A) Pulisic Brewster (352)
    B) Burke Ings (343)

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      B

    2. diabydoesgallas
      • 6 Years
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      B

    3. Amey
      • 2 Years
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      B for now.
      Can get A afterwards when Puli is fit

    4. Pukki Blinders
      • 1 Year
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      A but Puli isn't fit

  2. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 6 Years
    2 months, 14 hours ago

    Is it worth removing Mitro for a hit?

    1. diabydoesgallas
      • 6 Years
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      Bloody tempting isn’t it. I guess it just takes one ‘handball’ against wolves though.

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      No

    3. Would Ed Woodward
      • 1 Year
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      He had a ton of attempts last night but no good chances, if only Fulham had someone that could actually cross because they definitely attempt them enough, I think Tete is their best but he went off injured.

    4. Andre W
      • 6 Years
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      No. Yes Fulham aren't great but he will be involved in the majority of their goals this season.

    5. linkafu
      • 1 Year
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      No

  3. diabydoesgallas
    • 6 Years
    2 months, 14 hours ago

    Whats everyone doing with Son then?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      I would wait on news, international break means he could be back by GW5 or 6

  4. ShaunGoater123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 months, 14 hours ago

    save the transfer here for after the international break:

    McCarthy
    TAA / Justin / Bellerin
    Salah / KDB / Soucek / Rodriguez
    Jimenez / Adams / Werner

    Button / Doherty / Bissouma / MItchell

    1. The Mandalorian
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      Save good tea.

      1. The Mandalorian
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 months, 14 hours ago

        Team

  5. Tshelby
    • 5 Years
    2 months, 14 hours ago

    Totally stuck with this team..

    Ramsdale
    KWP, Davis, TAA
    Salah, Son*, KdB, Soucek
    DCL, Wilson, Werner

    Steer,-Webster, Taylor, Bissouma

    1 FT, 0.0 itb

    Time to take a hit?

    1. linkafu
      • 1 Year
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      Just get Son out to Hamez and you are good.

      1. FC Hakkebøf
        • 3 Years
        2 months, 14 hours ago

        Son out for Mahrez could be a good move

        1. The Count of Monte Cristo
          • 8 Years
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          I like this move.

    2. the dom 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      Son > Barnes

      1. Tshelby
        • 5 Years
        2 months, 14 hours ago

        1 goal and assist in 12 goals doesn't seem really convincing, no?

        1. the dom 1
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          Nope but he could have had 2 last GW easily 😉

    3. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 months, 13 hours ago

      Son to Mahrez for me as well ....

      Definitely don't need a hit with that team.

  6. linkafu
    • 1 Year
    2 months, 14 hours ago

    help with this

    A. Werner (not playin 9, No pens) to Ings ( 9, Pens, WBA next)

    B Roll the FT

    1. Amey
      • 2 Years
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      A

    2. Flair
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      Will probably do A myself, Lampard just can't make it happen

    3. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 8 Years
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      I've been on B for a few days but the more I think about it the more I lean towards A.

      Having 2 FT's over the int'l break would be nice once we get another week of information on this ridiculous start to the season.

      Gun to my head, A.

    4. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      A

    5. yosim
        2 months, 14 hours ago

        A

      • Pukki Blinders
        • 1 Year
        2 months, 14 hours ago

        Werner could play 9 if no Tammy and could have pens if no Jorginho.

        1. linkafu
          • 1 Year
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          Jorginho will be back in the XI and Tammy scores every game he plays, with Werner lack of confidence I can't see Lampard Bench Tammy until Pulli and Ziyech are back

          1. Pukki Blinders
            • 1 Year
            2 months, 13 hours ago

            Scores every game he plays but he was abysmal against wba, missed too many chances.

    6. FC Hakkebøf
      • 3 Years
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      (RP - no love)

      Best option here?

      A) Son -> Mahrez
      B) Son + Davies -> Foden + Robertson -4
      C) Mitrovic + Son -> Jimenez + Foden -4
      D) Son + Podence -> Mahrez + Foden -4

      Team:
      McCarthy
      TAA Saiss Justin
      Salah KDB Son* Podence*
      Werner DCL Mitrovic*
      ____
      4.0 Davies* Ferguson Bissouma

      1 FT 0.5 itb

      TA

      1. thepuntmaster
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 months, 14 hours ago

        B

      2. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 14 hours ago

        A or C

    7. Dynamic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      Do we think that Saiss is nailed on?

      Looking at the Wolves forums (https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/team-vs-fulham.338162/), it seems as though most Wolves fans want him to be dropped.

      1. ShaunGoater123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 months, 14 hours ago

        can't see who he would be dropped for so think he keeps his place. but it is a concern

        1. Dynamic
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          Hoever is who a lot of Wolves fans want.

          Bennett and Kilman are also options.

        2. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          Dendocker and Marcal when fit are options at CB too

      2. Flair
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        2 months, 14 hours ago

        Damn, 8 lineups in an not a sign of Saiss

      3. BobbyDoesNotLook
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 months, 14 hours ago

        I would say 80-20 mid term so I think it is realistic to be bit scared.

      4. I Member
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 months, 14 hours ago

        I don't think he is. Said on a previous page that Coady is a better pick due to nailedness but the Saiss owners didn't want to hear it. He's been poor and they have Hoever, Dendoncker, Marcal, Bennett and Kilman who can play instead of him. Boly and Coady are absolutely nailed. If Nuno decides to change one of the CBs it will be Saiss.

      5. Pukki Blinders
        • 1 Year
        2 months, 14 hours ago

        Shame the fans aren't responsible for the team selections then hey

    8. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 8 Years
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      Worth just saving FT this week even though I do want to get rid of Davies? Do so post-int'l-break with 2FT and more flexibility?

      McCarthy
      TAA -- Justin -- C.Taylor
      Salah (c) -- KDB -- B.Fernandes -- Souček
      Werner -- Mitrovic -- C.Wilson

      4.0 -- B.Davies -- Mitchell -- Bissouma [1FT + 0.3m ITB]

      1. Last Raulist Alive
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        2 months, 13 hours ago

        I want to do the same and will save FT. I have a very similar team and I'm benching Davies next GW. Having more flexibility and not using him next match are the reasons why I'll wait.

    9. ClaireT
      • 10 Years
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      So Vardy is predicted to change price tonight, would you do Werner & ASM to Vardy & Pereira for -4?

      McCarthy, Button
      Saiss, TAA, Justin, Holding, Lascelles
      Foden, Salah, Bruno, ASM, Reed
      Jimi, DCL, Werner

      1. the dom 1
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 months, 14 hours ago

        think im doing a - 4 for Werner & Som > Vardy & Barnes myself

        1. the dom 1
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          Son*

          1. ClaireT
            • 10 Years
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            Thank you 🙂

      2. jamiejoe
        • 5 Years
        2 months, 14 hours ago

        Yes

    10. Would Ed Woodward
      • 1 Year
      2 months, 14 hours ago

      Just out of interest, would you WC this?

      McCarthy
      TAA KWP Taylor
      KDB Bruno Hamez Podence
      Werner Jimenez Mitro

      Button Doherty Mitchell Reed, no FT, 1.5m ITB

      1. Cheeto__Bandito
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          no

        • The Count of Monte Cristo
          • 8 Years
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          You've got a decent enough squad, Doherty on the bench and 1.5m ITB - stick with it for a bit.

          With the massive variance in results, no. of goals scored per game and player performances so far I do not think a Wildcard is quite worth it right now. Too much randomness going on and would personally like to see how things settle down in the next month or two and use it then with more knowledge.

          I have no Everton, no Wolves, no Ings and no Vardy (see above) so I am worried too but I just feel like I can muddle my way with maybe a couple of hits in coming month or so which is not as 'costly' as a WC for me personally.

          1. The Count of Monte Cristo
            • 8 Years
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            Admittedly, I only concern myself with ML's, not OR. Some competitors in ML's have used WC so I'm happy to ride along without using it for now even if it means I'm slightly behind them.

          2. Would Ed Woodward
            • 1 Year
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            The plan was always to wait until the transfer window closes before using WC but it's so tempting after an awful start.

        • The Mandalorian
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          No

      2. Cheeto__Bandito
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          Rashford or Mahrez?

        • Tshelby
          • 5 Years
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          Mount anyone? Liked the way he played against WBA

          1. Pukki Blinders
            • 1 Year
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            May be dropped when Puli/Ziyech return

        • Stoichkov#8
          • 5 Years
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          Better option:

          a) 433 with Robbo, TAA, Justin, Lamptey (4.5 mid on becnh)
          b) 343 with Robbo, Digne, Trossard, Lamptey/Justin (one of them on bench)

          1. Miguel Sanchez
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            B

          2. thepuntmaster
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            A

          3. linkafu
            • 1 Year
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            B

          4. Dthinger
            • 3 Years
            2 months, 13 hours ago

            B

        • thepuntmaster
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          Who to ship ASM out for in this side?

          McCarthy - Steer
          TAA - Saiss - Lascelles - Mitchell - Ferguson
          KDB - Salah - Fernandes - ASM - Bissouma
          Jimi - DCL - Mitro

          ASM >
          A) Perreria
          B) Trossard
          C) Klich/Costa
          D) Townsend
          E) Lundstram

          1. linkafu
            • 1 Year
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            Klich/Harrison

          2. Galza
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            B, looked great

        • ads7680
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          Trying to decide between Pereira WBA and Trossard. Already have Maupay and Lampey. Too much Brighton to go with Trossard?

        • Neo-Viper
          • 5 Years
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          Bad week the last one.
          How do you like the look for the next?

          McCarthy
          Taa CTaylor Justin
          Podence KDB Salah Hamez
          DCL Vardy Mitro

          Button Soucek Mitchel Bavies

        • Twisted Melon
          • 6 Years
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          RMWCT

          Martinez
          James Justin TAA Mitchell Dunne
          Salah KDB Klich Podence Stephens
          Vardy Jimenez Ings

          Worth downgrading Jimi to DCL to upgrade Klich to Barnes?

          1. Dynamic
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            Who is the 5th defender alongside James Justin, TAA, Mitchell & Dunne?

            1. Twisted Melon
              • 6 Years
              2 months, 14 hours ago

              James & Justin

              1. Dynamic
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                I'd downgrade Vardy -> DCL, to free up some cash.

                Upgrade one of the cheap mids.

                Also, none of James, Justin, Mitchell & Dunne are nailed for the long term.

          2. ads7680
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            Jimi has really good fixtures coming up. Maybe downgrade Ings or Vardy instead.

            1. Andy_Social
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              2 months, 14 hours ago

              Ha ha ha! In all my years here, is this the worst advice I've ever read????

          3. Andy_Social
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            A WC squad needs to be for the long term. You've got a disastrous defence with TAA the only one truly nailed. That really needs to go back to the drawing board. Podence is also suspect. 3 Mids and your 3 strikers are excellent, however.

          4. Warby84
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            I would stick but get lamptey in for Justin!!!

        • thom830g
          • 3 Years
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          Got 0,5 ITB and 1 FT.

          a) Son -> James Rodriguez (next week Werner -> Kane)
          b) Son -> Rashford
          c) Son -> Zaha

          Team is

          McCarthy
          TAA - Saiss - Justin - James
          Salah - KDB - Son
          Wilson - Werner - Che Adams

          (4m - Podence - Vinagre - Bissouma)

          1. thom830g
            • 3 Years
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            Or d) Son - Mahrez (and Werner -> Kane next week)

          2. The Big Larsbowski
            • 1 Year
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            I would go Mahrez. Think City will hit back with a vengeance.

        • focaccia
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          2 months, 14 hours ago

          I have Adams & Werner and have used my FT replacing Son. I now have £3.4m itb. Should I:

          A) Adams > DCL (-4pts)
          B) Werner > Vardy (-4pts)
          C) Hold

          ta

          1. thom830g
            • 3 Years
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            C

        • yosim
            2 months, 14 hours ago

            thinking ahead... Robbo double up with TAA or Vardy instead ?

            1. Pukki Blinders
              • 1 Year
              2 months, 14 hours ago

              Bit of a price difference there

            2. linkafu
              • 1 Year
              2 months, 14 hours ago

              Vardy on Pen so Robbo vardy

              1. yosim
                  2 months, 13 hours ago

                  can only do one, no funds for Robbo and Vardy and TAA
                  can see Liverpool conceding the odd goal this season, don't forsee too many CS so might go Vardy

            3. AppleDunk
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              2 months, 14 hours ago

              Who to replace Son?

              A) Zaha
              B) H. Barnes
              C) Trossard
              D) Klich

              1. the dom 1
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                something is jumping at me for B.

                see my post below lol

                1. AppleDunk
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 7 Years
                  2 months, 14 hours ago

                  Popular question!

                  I'm leaning towards A or D due to pen duties.

                  1. the dom 1
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 6 Years
                    2 months, 14 hours ago

                    Zaha is a good pick too. Dont fancy Leeds v City this GW though.

                    saying that I have Bamford lol

              2. linkafu
                • 1 Year
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                D or Mahrez

            4. the dom 1
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              2 months, 14 hours ago

              Best replacement for Son pls?

              a. Barnes
              b. Maddison
              c. Zaha
              d. Mount
              e. Hamez

              Using Free Transfer

              Cheers

              1. footballfreak
                • 1 Year
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                f. mahrez

                1. rnrd
                  • 6 Years
                  2 months, 14 hours ago

                  bilva is back in training

                  1. footballfreak
                    • 1 Year
                    2 months, 14 hours ago

                    i see foden left out if bilva is in

                2. the dom 1
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  2 months, 14 hours ago

                  already have KDB & Foden fam 😉

                  1. UNDERWORLD7
                    • 9 Years
                    2 months, 14 hours ago

                    This is what i was wondering to partner KDB and Foden but may be overkill and bernado back in training also

                  2. footballfreak
                    • 1 Year
                    2 months, 14 hours ago

                    ok cool then i would go for rodriguez

                    1. the dom 1
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 6 Years
                      2 months, 14 hours ago

                      Hamez or Barnes at present for me.

            5. Atletico Junior
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              2 months, 14 hours ago

              Who do you think will take PK duties @Chelsea without Jorginho?

              Havertz 13/13 100% effectiveness
              Werner 13/16. 81%

              1. KLOPPS AND ROBBERS... the s…
                • 5 Years
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                Did Werner not do that at Leipzig

                1. Atletico Junior
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 7 Years
                  2 months, 14 hours ago

                  So did Havertz @leverkusen

              2. Miguel Sanchez
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                Werner

              3. Pukki Blinders
                • 1 Year
                2 months, 13 hours ago

                Werner

            6. KLOPPS AND ROBBERS... the s…
              • 5 Years
              2 months, 14 hours ago

              Thinking of going Ings over Jimi.
              Anyone else?

              1. Andy_Social
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                Well I've brought Ings in to captain him, but I'm hanging onto Jimi.

                1. pingissimus
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 1 Year
                  2 months, 14 hours ago

                  Just had a peek at what I assume is your team.

                  Where's the power defence?

                  Nice call on Meslier. He looks one very good goalie.

                  1. Andy_Social
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 8 Years
                    2 months, 14 hours ago

                    I wildcarded it out. Probably a mistake to lose the Liverpool defenders, but it was looking like there are too many goals and too few clean sheets. It's the penalty controversy that's got to me - look closely and you'll see my front 7 are all penalty-takers.

                    1. pingissimus
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 1 Year
                      2 months, 14 hours ago

                      Yep noted that

                      Holding firm here and actually upgraded VVD to Robbo on WC last week

                      Way I see it is that actual handball pens are relatively few - one a week on average. Don't see that interfering much with cs. Also fair chance that Robbo and TAA will benefit as attackers putting the ball into the box and getting FPL assists from pens 🙂

                2. the dom 1
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  2 months, 14 hours ago

                  Werner > Ings?

                  1. Andy_Social
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 8 Years
                    2 months, 14 hours ago

                    That's what I've done, yeh.

                    1. Would Ed Woodward
                      • 1 Year
                      2 months, 14 hours ago

                      I'm tempted to do that for a hit to cap.

              2. Pukki Blinders
                • 1 Year
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                Nope

              3. The Mandalorian
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                Jimi has great fixtures and better team

            7. RAFA THE GAFFA
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              2 months, 14 hours ago

              I took a -4 for Saiss last week, and now people are saying he could be dropped 😆

              1. UNDERWORLD7
                • 9 Years
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                Haha i know, it’s nonsense, going nowhere for mw

                1. UNDERWORLD7
                  • 9 Years
                  2 months, 14 hours ago

                  Me*

                2. I Member
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  2 months, 14 hours ago

                  You not wanting it to happen doesn't make it nonsense.

              2. Andy_Social
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                I am a bit concerned about that. He stays in my squad, but I've made sure I've got cover on the bench.

              3. Pukki Blinders
                • 1 Year
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                hits for a defender ouch

                1. RAFA THE GAFFA
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 4 Years
                  2 months, 14 hours ago

                  I was drunk. 🙂

                  1. Warby84
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 5 Years
                    2 months, 14 hours ago

                    Haha, that’s how my Wildcard got activated

            8. pingissimus
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              2 months, 14 hours ago

              Seeing very little Bamford talk here

              All but got him on WC last week ahead of DCL and not really clear I made the right decision. Leeds are going to create bucket loads of chances and don't see the evidence that he is a worse finisher than DCL right now. Both have poor history and are developing players so not much inclined to read too much into that history.

              Decent saving of course.

              1. Atletico Junior
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                Bamford is a 60-70 minute substitute waiting to happen... Even Bielsa said it post-match that it was a mistake that he kept playing the game. Not sure he is nailed Long term

                1. pingissimus
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 1 Year
                  2 months, 14 hours ago

                  Interesting point - missed that comment

                  As a player - not goalscorer - Bamford works really well in the Bielsa system. He did look knackered afterwards mind - simply because he gets through so much work shifting across the front line. Perhaps early subs will happen. But he's cheap enough still.

                  Just can't shake the feeling that he is actually much better than given credit for - more or less the player people thought he might be a couple of seasons back.

                2. Andy_Social
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  2 months, 14 hours ago

                  I read between the lines there - Bielsa simply not wanting to humiliate the substitute being substituted.

                  I think Bamford will turn out to be similar to DCL - unsustainable hauls but both a heck of a lot better than what we assumed pre-season. I think they're also both great value even with their price rises. The problem for me is I just can't fit them in my front 3 - it's currently Ings, Jimi and Richarlison.

              2. Pukki Blinders
                • 1 Year
                2 months, 13 hours ago

                Conversion rate last season was 15%
                Currently it's about triple that...

                Doesn't sound sustainable to me

                1. pingissimus
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 1 Year
                  2 months, 13 hours ago

                  No it's not

                  But DCL was incredibly wasteful last season too - part of my initial point. Don't see either sustaining their current hit rate. Question I'm looking at is best value.

                  Point I make just below is that I'm looking at that spot as a position where I avoid transfers where possible. DCL at 7 plus is a fairly serious investment - Bamford I can afford to blank.

                  1. Pukki Blinders
                    • 1 Year
                    2 months, 13 hours ago

                    Different types of players though, with different players supplying them. Ancelotti has clearly worked with DCL on what his role is in the team... and will score loads of tap ins this season. All about positioning for DCL more so than his finishing ability.

              3. Dthinger
                • 3 Years
                2 months, 13 hours ago

                Yeah...I really wanted him for GW 1 but now I fear I've missed the boat with the price rises

                1. pingissimus
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 1 Year
                  2 months, 13 hours ago

                  Likewise - sort of

                  He was in and out of my GW1 squad as the punt option. But currently have DCL and looking at value and potential upgrade in midfield from 1.5 mill or so saving I think I may go there yet.

                  Have Soucek in midfield and conceptually I wouldn't mind rotating them as 7th attacker. Both offer pretty fair value. Fairly limited expectations is all here for me. They'd be in for the long haul and not especially form dependent. A position where I'd avoid all but inevitable transfers. DCL is much more of an investment on current funds.

                  Other option I'm considering is Antonio but that would be a WH double up in that position so less tempting.

            9. yalala
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              2 months, 14 hours ago

              https://www.premierleague.com/news/1848038

              Way to rub salt on the wound

              1. Andy_Social
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                2 months, 13 hours ago

                Well, a wildcard is like a puppy at Christmas

            10. llmja
              • 3 Years
              2 months, 14 hours ago

              Mitrovic/Son to -​4
              A.Mahrez+Maupay
              B.Barn+Ings
              C.Barn+DCL

              Werner/Son to -​4
              D.Maupay+KDB

              Have Sterling and Salah

            11. Major League Shocker
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              2 months, 14 hours ago

              Villa-Liverpool score predictions?

              1. Warby84
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 5 Years
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                0-3

              2. Miguel Sanchez
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                1-2

              3. yalala
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                1-0 Villa

                Grealish pen

              4. the dom 1
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                2 months, 14 hours ago

                0-4