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Alisson and Mane miss out for Liverpool as Barkley makes Aston Villa debut

The final match of Gameweek 4 – and the last Premier League fixture before the October international break – sees two sides with 100% winning records square off at Villa Park.

Aston Villa v Liverpool gets underway in the West Midlands at 19:15 BST.

There are two significant changes to Jurgen Klopp’s starting XI, with Sadio Mane (£11.9m) and Alisson (£6.0m) both missing for the visitors.

Mane’s absence we knew about, with Liverpool confirming on Friday that the Senegal international had tested positive for COVID-19.

Diogo Jota (£6.3m) comes in for his first Premier League start for the Reds.

Alisson’s shoulder injury we weren’t aware of ahead of Saturday’s Fantasy Premier League deadline but rumours had gathered momentum about his unavailability this afternoon and the Brazilian indeed sits this one out with a shoulder injury.

Adrian (£4.5m) deputises between the posts.

Klopp shed more light on his first-choice shot-stopper’s injury before the match, saying:

Yesterday an incident in training, very unlucky – two players clash with each other, one gets up, one doesn’t. The one who didn’t get up was Ali.

So, after the first few things, we don’t know 100 per cent. But he cannot play today. We have to do further assessment but he’s injured, let me say it like this. Now we hope it will go really quickly.

It’s an international break, I’m pretty sure after that he will not be ready. Then we have to see week by week.

On Mane, the Liverpool boss added:

He’s good, he’s good. We are obviously in contact pretty often.

He is fine. Monday night, we played Arsenal, played a really good game, after the game it was a really good feeling. And then the problems started immediately. That’s how it is. That’s how life is, that’s how our life is as well, that’s completely normal.

Jordan Henderson (£5.4m) has recovered from a muscle problem but the England midfielder is only among the substitutes this evening.

Aston Villa’s starting XI shows only one change, with Conor Hourihane (£6.0m) dropping to the bench.

Ross Barkley (£5.9m) comes in for the Irishman and makes his Aston Villa debut, following his loan move from Chelsea.

Three-quarters of Liverpool’s backline and Mohamed Salah (£12.2m) boast double-digit ownerships in FPL, with the Egyptian and Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m) the fourth and third most-owned assets overall.

Emi Martinez (£4.6m), who has racked up 19 points in his new club’s first two Premier League matches of the season, is Villa’s most-owned player.


Aston Villa XI: Martínez, Cash, Konsa, Mings, Targett, McGinn, Luiz, Barkley, Trézéguet, Watkins, Grealish.

Liverpool XI: Adrián, Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, van Dijk, Robertson, Keita, Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Salah, Firmino, Jota.

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2,840 Comments Post a Comment
  1. diabydoesgallas
    • 6 Years
    2 months, 1 day ago

    Humble brag - I’m in the top 10k, but I have no idea if that’s down to luck or judgement whatsoever. What a bonkers season.

    1. The Senate
      • 2 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      The game takes both. Currently seems I'm lacking either...

    2. AgentRed
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      Similar position. Last year felt like everything went against me but so far this year so far I keep being bailed out from unlikely sources like Callum Wilson.

      Skill and research gets you to a certain point but beyond that it’s a roll of the dice!

    3. Doni555
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      You deserve the success for that name lol

  2. Top Lad Dakes.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    2 months, 1 day ago

    Kane 1A away from his season record, 4 GW in

  3. George James
    • 5 Years
    2 months, 1 day ago

    Werner + Foden >> Kane + Jorginho for free.

    Yes or no?

    1. diabydoesgallas
      • 6 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      I really wouldn’t do Jorginho.

      1. George James
        • 5 Years
        2 months, 1 day ago

        5.7 on a mid. Struggling to see better

        1. diabydoesgallas
          • 6 Years
          2 months, 1 day ago

          He could be sold to arsenal tomo. Also rotates (usually) with kovacic. And pens are a lottery. ASM maybe?

    2. Powers106
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      yes for me, bringing both in on wc

    3. Powers106
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      For the price 5.1 it seems to come down to Jorginho or Soucek and the former is on penalties (at least a share of duties)

    4. how now brown cow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      Will jorginho still be at chelsea?

  4. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    2 months, 1 day ago

    Knowing how things are going...next GW:

    - Son injured and subbed off in the first half: 1 point (and Mou says he'll be out for a while)
    - DCL + Rodriguez catch COVID-19 and can't play vs. Liverpool
    - Chelsea finally click with Pulisic back: Werner scores 3 goals, with 3 assists for returning Reece James
    - KDB brace as he plays his favourite team to haul against: Arsenal
    - Mitrovic brace vs. Sheffield United, Brewster blanks
    - Wilson red card as Man Utd thrash Newcastle - no one has any Man Utd players in their teams for it
    - Leicester beat Villa 1-0, thanks to a Barnes goal

    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      Pretty much. Would hurt with my moves of werner foden to dcl son lol

    2. The Senate
      • 2 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      A completely reasonable prediction

    3. Wirbelwind
      • 3 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      I'm not listening to Mourinho's injury reports again

    4. Doni555
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      Brilliant

  5. The Senate
    • 2 Years
    2 months, 1 day ago

    Any thoughts? WC available, 0ITB. Martial out.
    (A) Jimenez in
    (B) +Rashford out for Son, Jimi (-4)
    (C) +Mitrovic out for Brewster, Kane (-4)
    (D) +Rash out to Kane, Hammez (-4)
    (E) +Bissouma out to Brewster, Hammez (-4) (3-5-2)
    (F) +Ramsdale, Bissouma out to Brewster, Son, Meslier (-8)

    team:
    Ramsdale/4.0
    TAA Semedo Justin
    Salah KDB Rashford Podence
    Martial DCL Mitro
    (Bissouma KWP Mitchell)

  6. Wirbelwind
    • 3 Years
    2 months, 1 day ago

    Foden -> JRodriguez, need to get 1.1 funds. Which little piggy would you sacrifice

    A) Jiminez -> Maupay
    B) TAA -> Anyone really
    C) Podence -> bench 4.4
    D) James -> 4.5, and do TAA -> Robertson for a hit (then I think B) to a 4.5 would be better, and robertson or taa after Alisson is back)

  7. Niho992
    • 2 Years
    2 months, 1 day ago

    Wtf happen today? This is going to be the craziest season ever

  8. FeverPitch
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 months, 1 day ago

    Mate’s wildcard team got 10 points. He picked his dream squad and averaged less than one point per player https://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/4176799/event/4

    1. wulfranian
      • 4 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      This is insanity.

    2. Abaddon
      • 6 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      Lol. This is so brutal. Send him my love. Don’t give up. Lol

    3. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 7 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      even his bench got 0 points in total 😀

    4. threeputt
      • 11 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      2 pts on the bench and all 15 played lol

      1. threeputt
        • 11 Years
        2 months, 1 day ago

        make that 0 on the bench, poor guy !

  9. Dirty Harry
    • 5 Years
    2 months, 1 day ago

    Do I just YOLO a -8?

    Foden + Pereira + Ings
    To
    Son + Grealish + Watkins(or other 6.0)

  10. mr messi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    2 months, 1 day ago

    Anyone?

    A. Werner and KDB to Kane and Son or
    B. Werner and Ings to Kane and Wilson?

    1. The Senate
      • 2 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      B IMO

    2. Coys96
      • 3 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      Keep both KDB & Ings

    3. MuelNado
        2 months, 1 day ago

        A.

        Kane and Son look fantastic. City don't look right and KDB hasn't looked great so far.

        Also, why no love for Sterling over KDB? points wise per season Sterling is far more consistent.

    4. Amey
      • 2 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      And yes, thank you Salah 😎

      1. Niho992
        • 2 Years
        2 months, 1 day ago

        Lol. Ideal for Man United fans who C Salah haha

    5. OneMan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      Mendy, 4m
      Ayling, Dallas, Digne, Lamptey, Saiss
      Salah, Fernandes, JRod, Podence, Biss.
      Ings, Werner, Wilson

      What needs changing ?

    6. gooberman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      Wow what an unpredictable season this has been so far. For the first time in 15yrs I feel completely lost with no clue what to do.

      Normally I have firm transfer plans and strategies that I have confidence in but I really don't know where to turn right now.

      Teams can look great one week and awful the next and I think the reason for this is that the dynamics of every game is different and is influenced by the tactics teams adopt, formations, strategies and the way they set up.

      People will now be drawn to Grealish and Watkins but their next opponents will likely set up completely different and not play that high line that Liverpool played tonight and they may not score even 1.

      The lack of fans also takes away home advantage throwing another factor into the mix and then on top of that good players can have an off day and average players can over perform.

      I normally hate international breaks but I'm glad we have this now as I'm sick to death of FPL and a break is needed. Have no interest right now in looking at or watching anything to do with FPL.

      1. J ⚒ Salah & Vinagre
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 months, 1 day ago

        I’m with you here.

        My head is gone, I haven’t got a clue what I’m doing 😆

        1. Doni555
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 1 day ago

          Couldn't agree more

          1. threeputt
            • 11 Years
            2 months, 1 day ago

            keep a level head imo, cream will rise to the top by the end of the season, probably another Pool Premiership imo

            1. Doni555
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              2 months, 1 day ago

              I'm sure you're right - you may have just talked me down from the triple villa/west ham shaped ledge I'd ascended

    7. Noah’s Ark
      • 8 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      What to do here? 1ft .1 itb

      Martinez
      Trent, Robertson, Castagne
      Salah, Kdb, Barnes, Trossard, Pereira
      Ings, Dcl

      Forster, Brewster, Amartey, Ferguson

      Ings to Watkins?

      1. Coys96
        • 3 Years
        2 months, 1 day ago

        Save

      2. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 1 day ago

        Hold on moves til end of IB

    8. Powers106
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      Any gut feelings here, who to move out - Robbo or TAA? I'm leaning toward TAA but not sure who yet to replace or who to target with the leftover money

    9. Nightcrawler
      • 1 Year
      2 months, 1 day ago

      Captain scores this season

      40
      10
      10
      26

      86 total

      1. J ⚒ Salah & Vinagre
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 months, 1 day ago

        F off lol

      2. Coys96
        • 3 Years
        2 months, 1 day ago

        Salah
        Auba
        Salah
        Salah

      3. Barnabus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 months, 1 day ago

        Exactly the same as me

    10. The Sun'll Come Out To…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 months, 1 day ago

      DDidnt see what happened. Any chance Martial red gets overturned on appeal?

      1. Amey
        • 2 Years
        2 months, 1 day ago

        No
        That was dangerous.
        Could have killed Lamela

      2. how now brown cow
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 months, 1 day ago

        No

      3. Bushwhacker
        • 1 Year
        2 months, 1 day ago

        Can hope Lamela gets a red on appeal.

      4. MuelNado
          2 months, 1 day ago

          More chance of Lamela getting a retroactive ban for what he did.

          So I'd say, no chance IMO

      5. Babelcopter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        2 months, 1 day ago

        Surely Maupay over Watkins?

      6. J ⚒ Salah & Vinagre
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 months, 1 day ago

        I think I’m second to bottom of my mini league 😆

        1. Doni555
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 1 day ago

          Show off

      7. Niho992
        • 2 Years
        2 months, 1 day ago

        Guys dont make early rage transfers. I'm pretty sure that will be COVID cases after IB.

        Just sign out from FPL and wait. Dont watch fplstatistics. Just rest.

        1. dando89
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 1 day ago

          I've made 2 changes as I had the exact money for 2 players I wanted and they will both rise over the break. If it all goes wrong with covid cases etc I'll pop my wildcard

      8. g40steve
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        2 months, 1 day ago

        JamesR > ?

        6m

        1. g40steve
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          2 months, 1 day ago

          Reece James

        2. Babelcopter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          2 months, 1 day ago

          Chillwell

        3. Coys96
          • 3 Years
          2 months, 1 day ago

          Reguilon

      9. Easy Cheesy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        2 months, 1 day ago

        WC2: load up on utd first before city
        WC3: load up on wolves/ city. Avoid southampton
        WC4: load up on liverpool/ leicester

        The only consistent is any WC will have brought in DCL and been paid back

        Not sure any week has paid back the conventional logic (which at the time did seem rational)

      10. Paulybaby123
          2 months, 1 day ago

          16 pt hit this week and still set for 85 pts or so after bonus is added.. Used my bench boost too but I saw this week as an opportunity to move up the rankings which I surely will even with the hit, which makes it worth the apparent 'risk'.

          I've already made 7 transfers for next week incurring a 24 pt hit aswel. Going for Kane as my triple captain choice next week to make up for the hit. Im pretty happy with my squad now and prob won't be taking any more major hits like this but it just goes to show that you CAN make transfers in this game and improve

          1. Londongeezaa
            • 2 Years
            2 months, 1 day ago

            24 point hit before a 2 week international break? Looool

            1. Paulybaby123
                2 months, 1 day ago

                It's a long season. Will have it made back with Kane (C). Play it safe if you like but I've finished in the top 20k several times.. You have to be open to making some decisions in this game

                1. Londongeezaa
                  • 2 Years
                  2 months, 1 day ago

                  I’m not questioning taking hits. It’s just the timing 🙂

                2. FPL_trail_runner
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  2 months, 1 day ago

                  Yes indeed.

                  But of course there was no way to get a 10.5mil player in without a 24 point hit.

            2. threeputt
              • 11 Years
              2 months, 1 day ago

              using bb ourside of a dgw is a fools game

            3. FPL_trail_runner
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              2 months, 1 day ago

              Yes what could go wrong

              24 point hit

              You only need 2 goals from Kane to just break even, Good luck with that. Kane will of course score in every game this year and at least 2.

              And then of course you will not be at all at a disadvantage for the 2 dgw in new year with you having

              - No triple captain

              - no free hit

            4. The Suspended One
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              2 months, 1 day ago

              LOL

              Talk to us at the end of the year

          2. wulfranian
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 1 day ago

            Do you think it's worth to sell McCarthy(Chelsea away) for a hit?

            1. Babelcopter
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              2 months, 1 day ago

              No

            2. Coys96
              • 3 Years
              2 months, 1 day ago

              No way

            3. wulfranian
              • 4 Years
              2 months, 1 day ago

              cheers

          3. ingvar1111
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            2 months, 1 day ago

            Meslier (McCarthy)
            Lamptey James Saiss (Mitchell Digne)
            KDB Salah Hamez Rashford (Podence)
            Brewster Jimenez DCL

            0.5m ITB 2 FT

            Rashford + Jimenez -> Kane + Grealish (1m ITB)

            any other transfer that makes sense?

          4. Tony Martial
            • 2 Years
            2 months, 1 day ago

            Best 5.4 striker lol

            1. Coys96
              • 3 Years
              2 months, 1 day ago

              Brewster

          5. OneMan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 1 day ago

            Werner & Son to DCL & Son -8 ?

            1. BUZZBOMB
              • 5 Years
              2 months, 1 day ago

              Yeah, go for it. Could do it for a -4 tho.

            2. Doni555
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              2 months, 1 day ago

              Are you selling the Son that either blanks or gets injured at half time for the one that scores for fun?! If so, worth the hit

              1. OneMan
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                2 months, 1 day ago

                Podence for Son. Might regret it, but it’s done now.

                1. Doni555
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 4 Years
                  2 months, 1 day ago

                  I wouldn't have been able to resist that move to be fair, I think it's a good call as long as they're ok by the time the start of the next game week rolls around

                  1. OneMan
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 4 Years
                    2 months, 1 day ago

                    Thanks. It’s a long term transfer. So not worried if they don’t fire next get. But might captain Son to make it worthwhile.

            3. Tony Moon
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              2 months, 1 day ago

              Two Sons? Yes please!

            4. OneMan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              2 months, 1 day ago

              Sorry Werner & Podence.

          6. HM2
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            2 months, 1 day ago

            a) Hamez
            b) Greilish

          7. Powers106
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            2 months, 1 day ago

            I've got Button and I'm on WC, are there any other 4.0's that have a better chance of playing (none have so far it seems)?

            1. Bushwhacker
              • 1 Year
              2 months, 1 day ago

              Just get the backup keeper to the keeper you have. That's the point of the 4.0 keeper.

              1. Tony Moon
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                2 months, 1 day ago

                Except most aren't 4m!

          8. Bushwhacker
            • 1 Year
            2 months, 1 day ago

            So 3 own goals . . .none counted . . . uh . . .what?

            1. threeputt
              • 11 Years
              2 months, 1 day ago

              all 3 on target imo

              1. Bushwhacker
                • 1 Year
                2 months, 1 day ago

                Not sure any of them were, especially the last.

            2. Tony Moon
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              2 months, 1 day ago

              Only an own goal if the initial shot wasn't on target.