Scout Notes

Son and Kane top the FPL points table as United’s defence crumbles again

Manchester United 1-6 Tottenham Hotspur

  • Goals: Bruno Fernandes (£10.5m) | Tanguy Ndombele (£5.9m), Son Heung-min (£9.0m) x2, Harry Kane (£10.5m) x2, Serge Aurier (£5.2m)
  • Assists: Anthony Martial (£8.9m) | Kane, Aurier, Son, Ben Davies (£4.9m), Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg (£4.9m)
  • Bonus: Son x3, Kane x2, Aurier x1

A ruthless Spurs thrashed a Manchester United outfit that started fast, were then reduced to ten men and ended up a shambles.

Thirty seconds into the game and it looked like it might be the visitors who would be the whipping boys as Anthony Martial (£8.9m) burst into Tottenham’s area and Davinson Sanchez (£5.4m) gave away a penalty.

The spot-kick was, as usual, put away by United’s most popular Fantasy Premier League (FPL) asset, the 20.7%-owned Bruno Fernandes (£10.5m), and visiting coach Jose Mourinho could have been excused for preparing a scowl similar to the one he wore during much of his tenure at Manchester.

The fact he left the pitch at full-time with the sort of smugly magnanimous smile that only a massive victory can produce was down to his side’s excellence, a misguided moment from Martial and a complete capitulation from the rest of the United team.

But amidst all the sound and fury of a truly bewildering game, the key Fantasy takeaway was the surprise presence of, and a brilliant performance from, Son Heung-min (£9.0m).

While Mourinho had suggested the midfielder might be fit to play at Old Trafford, a hamstring issue had his official chances down as 25%. That prompted a massive FPL sale, with a net 1,308,054 managers – well over half his total ownership – getting rid of the South Korean.

He responded by starting, scoring twice, assisting once, earning maximum bonus and recording 18 points for his second double-digit haul (the other brought in 24) of a remarkable start to the season.

Twitter users were in meltdown at half-time, with the hashtag ‘Took Son’ – as in ‘I took Son out of my Fantasy team this week’ – trending worldwide.

By the final whistle, that had been replaced by #OleOut as Gunnar Solskjaer’s men fell apart.

The rot didn’t even start with Martial’s dismissal, after 28 minutes, for an irritable slap to Erik Lamela‘s (£5.9m) face sparked by the Argentine’s weasly attempt to elbow the United striker.

VAR upheld referee Anthony Taylor’s decision despite also showcasing Lamela’s embarrassing theatricality and his massive culpability in the whole event. But Martial walked, Lamela received only a booking and the match hurried away from the hosts. 

In truth, it was already heading in that direction.

United’s lead lasted all of two minutes, with the fragility of centre-back pairing Harry Maguire (£5.4m) and Eric Bailly (£5.0m) – the latter preferred to Victor Lindelof (£4.9m) – exposed for the first of many times.

Maguire’s feeble attempt to head the ball clear created a panic in the area and the ball eventually fell for Tanguy Ndombele (£5.9m) to equalise.

Three minutes later, Son put Spurs ahead when the new-look assist machine Harry Kane (£10.6m) was fouled, picked himself up and played a quick ball through to the midfielder, who dinked the ball over the advancing David De Gea (£5.5m) and in.

United responded, the lively Mason Greenwood (£7.4m) chalking up three attempts by the 23rd minute, but Son had already blown a great chance to double his tally before the Martial dismissal and it was one-way traffic from then on.

A minute after Martial finally trudged off, Spurs made it 3-1 when Bailly made a mess of trying to play out from the back, Kane pounced and played the ball to Son, who weighed up his options before squaring back to the striker for a simple finish.

Losing a striker should have at least meant United retained some semblance of shape at the back, but instead, enormous pockets of space kept opening up on their right flank and when Serge Aurier (£5.2m) was given the freedom to exploit this, he responded by setting up Son’s second goal.

It could even have been five by half-time, Kane missing a good chance from a near-post header, and that scoreline would not have flattered the visitors.

Solskjaer made changes at the break, shoring up his midfield by swapping out the blameless Fernandes and the pedestrian Nemanja Matic (£5.0m) for Fred (£5.4m) and Scott McTominay (£4.9m), but the fact Spurs only scored twice in the second half was as much to do with their own more relaxed approach than anything the United coach, or his players, did.

It was 5-1 on 51 when the rampaging Aurier smashed home from a brilliant Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg (£4.9m) first-time pass and Kane finished the scoring with an unstoppable penalty after substitute Ben Davies (£4.9m) was taken down by a sliding Paul Pogba (£7.9m).

Solskjaer was suitably crestfallen at the end of the match, saying:

Today, it was almost like Christmas, too many mistakes all came at once. Too many mistakes against a good team and you’ll be punished. It’s very embarrassing.

What might make things worse for him is the crash in confidence of Maguire, the unreliability of Lindelof and the rustiness of Bailly. United seem close to bringing in a new striker (Edinson Cavani) and a left-back (Alex Telles), but the unaddressed weaknesses in the centre of their defence do not bode well at all, as 11 goals conceded in three matches makes abundantly clear.

In Fantasy terms, however, the plentiful owners of Fernandes can still look forward to a good schedule through to mid-December, while Martial’s three-match ban could mean out-of-position opportunities up front for midfielders Greenwood or, more likely, Marcus Rashford (£9.5m).

As for Spurs, Son is currently the most-bought Gameweek 5 player – it would be interesting to know how many of those purchasers sold him ahead of the United match – and Kane is also in the top five.

The pair have 89 points between them this season. United’s entire squad has 72, albeit from one game less, and owning Son and/or Kane looks highly advisable when their next four opponents are West Ham and Brighton at home and Burnley and West Brom away.

So reasons to be cheerful are many for Spurs fans and Fantasy owners alike, while Mourinho was similarly upbeat:

The squad is very good, that’s why we won these matches, rotating players, bringing in fresh legs… and then Lo Celso injured, Bergwijn injured, Bale working… look at the squad we have, look at the attacking players we have, plus Vinicius in the stand. It was an amazing performance. I’m very proud of everyone at the club.

That could all be construed as a bit of a dig at a United board he believed failed to back him in the transfer market.

One thing’s for sure – Mourinho’s successor at Old Trafford is the manager with all the worries at present.


Manchester United XI (4-2-3-1): De Gea; Wan-Bissaka, Bailly, Maguire, Shaw; Matic (McTominay 45), Pogba; Fernandes (Fred 45), Rashford, Greenwood (van de Beek 67); Martial.

Tottenham Hotspur XI (4-3-2-1): Lloris; Aurier, Dier, Sanchez, Reguilon; Hojbjerg, Sissoko, Ndombele (Alli 69); Lamela (Moura 45), Son (Davies 73); Kane.

MEMBERS ANALYSIS

Lessons Learned from FPL Gameweek 4

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  1. Bruce Lee
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Manchester United announce Cavani

    https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/1313221775786995714

    1. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Ole sacked by Christmas

    2. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Just what they needed!

      This is going to be funny

    3. The Mandalorian
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Game over Ole, United won't get top 4 now

  2. as33
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    How this WC looks:
    McCarthy
    Justin, Castagne, Chilwell(Mitchel)
    Salah, KDB, Son, Jorginho
    Kane(c), Wilson, DCL

    1. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Justin and Mitchell got longevity?

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Not Justin, but I’d keep Mitchell, I think PVA goes to midfield

      2. as33
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Replacement?

        1. Eat my goal!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Taylor, lamptey - stretch to saiss?

  3. Bruce Lee
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Cavani price prediction?

    6m imo

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Overpriced if so

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      8m

  4. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Harry Rednapp clearly unimpressed with United buying Cavani

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Ol arrray has that one spot on

  5. Salah(c)
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Sterling to son

    Yay or nay?

    1. Warby84
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      No

  6. Jimjam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    (A) Kane, Bowen, Lamptey

    (B) Wilson, Rodriguez, Robertson

    1. 2999 - Lady of Legend
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B.

  7. JJO
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Watkins Rodrigo or Bamford?

    1. FC Hakkebøf
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Watkins due to fixtures

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Hasn't Villa got Leicester away this week , they are getting nothing there

        1. JJO
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Yeah im not sure they have better fixtures

          1. Klaren
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Villa has much better fixtures than Leeds.

        2. The Suspended One
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          His pace could cause them issues, don’t be so sure

        3. Klaren
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Have you watched Leicester this season? They gave away loads of chances to every team they played against. Even against Burnley who are really struggling creating anything in the other games they played.

        4. The Ejiptian King
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Bold to even make a prediction about anything this season, what would you have said before they played Liverpool?

  8. FC Hakkebøf
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Two wildcard inquries

    1. Best set and forget GK?
    A) Martinez
    B) McCarthy
    C) Someone else

    2. Best two picks out of this bunch?

    A) Pulisic
    B) Rodriguez
    C) Zaha
    D) Grealish

    1. Salah(c)
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A, also mendy could be a good pick

      B and D

    2. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A, AC

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Pulisic is class, Zaha fixtures and pens

        1. The Suspended One
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Zaha scored his goal for the year, time to brood for a move to a bigger club

          1. FC Hakkebøf
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            He is not going anywhere though?

            1. The Suspended One
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 6 months ago

              Won’t stop him from pouting by the touchline all year

              1. Dynamic Duos
                • 10 Years
                3 years, 6 months ago

                He is playing upfront this year

                1. The Suspended One
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  3 years, 6 months ago

                  And he’s on penalties too !!!

                  Fools.
                  Gold.

    3. Jimjam
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A; B&D

  9. DRIZ ✅
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Cavani facing his old club in Champs League then

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Will he play?

  10. bruuuno
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Havertz > Grealish now before price raise?

    1. bruuuno
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      With free transfer

    2. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      No way

  11. Blue Moon Rising
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Trent and Mitro > Kane and Saiss (-4)?

    1. Blue Moon Rising
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Kane’s next four look great

    2. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I decided I’m not selling Trent; he will come good, has done 2 yrs running

      1. Blue Moon Rising
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Just think defenders aren't the answer at the minute. The level of goals and penalties this season is unparalleled.

        1. The Suspended One
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Does that seem likely to continue or regress to the mean?

          1. Blue Moon Rising
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            It’s going to come down a bit but it just looks like a crazy season.

  12. 1justlookin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    If Steer has been transferred out of Villa does this mean us owners have to get rid of him before we make any other transfers or can we let me rot?

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      You can keep him forever

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Nyland has left- have not seen news Steer going also?

    3. leo_messi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Nyland left, not steer

  13. Corona is not good 4 U
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    What to do with this horror show?

    McCarthy, Steer
    Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Saïss, Justin, Mitchell
    Salah, de Bruyne, Fernandes, Saint-Maximin, Bissouma
    Calvert-Lewin, Wilson, Mitrovic

    Alexander-Arnold + Saint-Maximin -> Lamptey + Son?

    Thank you!

  14. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Nothing goes faster into the “wait and see” category than high profile attackers signed by Man Utd.

  15. panda07
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    On wildcard, what do you think of this draft? I know the defence is not the best but the way things are going I don't see too much value there especially with Allison out for 6 weeks.

    McCarthy
    Chillwell Konsa Dallas Masuaku Ferguson
    Salah Bruno Son Hamez Grealish
    Kane DCL Brewster

    1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Downgrade Bruno and upgrade defence

      1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        By downgrade I mean get someone cheaper that scores as many points

      2. panda07
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks. Which defenders would you suggest upgrading to as a matter of interest? I'm finding it difficult to trust most of the defences including Liverpool's.

        Yeah I'm not overly happy with Bruno, I could downgrade Chilwell and get KDB either.

  16. The Mandalorian
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Cavani is a turd being dressed up in the No7 shirt and being paid Harry Kane wages.

  17. The Suspended One
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Seriously though; name me two teams in the PL who can defend this year.

    1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Aston Villa and West Ham bizarrely enough

      1. Fit_to_drop
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        This

      2. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Conceding 2 to Liverpool and keeping out Sheffield and Fulham dont qualify imo

        Wham had two good matches but conceded 2 each to arsenal and Newcastle..

    2. Konstaapeli
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Arsenal 😆

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        CS vs Fulham but then conceded five goals in three games..

        I do agree with you that they’ve been the best so far though

  18. Dont give a fuchs
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Raphinha will get into starting XI or be a substitute for Costa?

  19. Will J 256
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    What do you make of this -8?
    Mahrez, R James, Zaha to Son, Dallas, James Rodriguez

    1. Party time
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Nice

    2. HNI
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Rodriguez or Grealish for Podence?
      Rodriguez plays for better team but will.likely miss next due to columbia match

      1. Konstaapeli
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        He's not going to miss a derby

      2. Warby84
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        James Rodriguez

    3. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      RMWCT please

      Martinez
      Saïss Castagne Chillwell
      Mo Son Hames Grealish
      Kane DCL Antonio

      Bench: Steer March PVA Lamptey

      1. Fit_to_drop
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Very like what I’m trying to get to.

      2. Fit_to_drop
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        But I fear not having one of Robbo/Trent

    4. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      So we didn’t address CB, DM or RW. What a terribly ran club.

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        They got you another striker though!

        1. The Suspended One
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Well; kinda...

    5. mitre
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Meslier (McCarthy)
      Lamptey James Saiss (Digne Mitchell)
      KDB Salah Hamez Grealish (Podence)
      Brewster Kane DCL

      GTG? (1m ITB)

      1. Fit_to_drop
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        James is gone (as a guaranteed starter) and your defence is too weak

    6. Bonus magnet
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Should I WC?

      McCarthy
      Robbo Laporte Shaw
      Salah Sterling Rodriguez Soucek Harvertz
      Jimi Wilson

      Nyland Justin Mitchell Davis

      1. AuFeld
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Nothing a couple of hits can't take care of. Save the WC for a rainy day.

      2. Shake n Bake
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah not enough transfers needed/wanted to justify a WC in my opinion

    7. Will J 256
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Thoughts on this -4?
      Mahrez and R James to Son and Dallas?

      1. Shake n Bake
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Looks good on paper

        1. Will J 256
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Thanks!

    8. Shake n Bake
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Foden > Grealish for a -4?

      Have exact cash so would need to be today. Already have Watkins

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Only if he’s on pens

        1. avfc82
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          I’d be really surprised if he ends up on pens.

          1. The Suspended One
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Who then? Ollie would be in every team if he had them in his locker..

            1. The Suspended One
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 6 months ago

              He’s only 1 of 4 career yikes

            2. The Ejiptian King
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 6 months ago

              Barkley would be my guess.

              1. The Suspended One
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 6 months ago

                New loan signing taking them over the captain?

                I could’ve sworn he stepped up to take one last year...

                1. The Ejiptian King
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 6 months ago

                  If I remember correctly, Grealish missed against Sheff Utd then gave them to El Ghazi, he actually handed him the ball for the next pen they got, I owned him at the time.

                  1. avfc82
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 14 Years
                    3 years, 6 months ago

                    Yeah, you’re right, Grealish never looks like he fancies them. El Ghazi scored, but is no longer first choice. Hourihane had the ball in his hand ready to take one against Palace, before it was overturned, but like El Ghazi, won’t start too many games. My bet is Barkley.

      2. Henryyy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I've done that

      3. avfc82
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Nope, not keen on that for a hit.

    9. Warby84
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Keeping my eye on the fitness of Patrick Van Aanholt... Could be good with the upcoming fixtures...

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Hope he plays in midfield

        Mitchell pva double up

    10. Romford Pele - Don't w…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Who to bench?

      A) Podence (lee)
      B) Grealish (lei)
      C) Brewster (FUL)

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Brewster will be benched for you

        Cameo is his best bet

    11. Milk, 1 Šuker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      What are people going to do now that Nyland has moved on? I know most had him as their bench fodder...

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Same as before; he was never going to play

      2. avfc82
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I’d imagine they’ll leave him on the bench, unless WC’ing in which case they’ll remove.

      3. FFSbet.com
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Keep,he cant drop now

    12. No_Mo_Salah?
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      So last week I did Son to Bruno and of course regretted it. Would you switch back on ft and bag 1.5?

      Other option i am looking at is keeping Bruno and doing Soucek and TAA to Son and 4.5m for -4 but feels wrong taking TAA out.