Scout Notes

Antonio update, Liverpool’s defence and Klopp on Jota: key FPL notes from Anfield

Liverpool 2-1 West Ham United

  • Goals: Mohamed Salah (£12.4m), Diogo Jota (£6.3m) | Pablo Fornals (£6.4m)
  • Assists: Xherdan Shaqiri (£6.4m)
  • Bonus: Fornals x3, Jota x2, Salah x1

Liverpool laboured to a win over West Ham that raised yet more questions about a defence with just one league clean sheet to its name all season.

Key injuries have hugely reduced coach Jurgen Klopp’s options at the back, with the latest player coming in at centre-half, Nathaniel Phillips (£4.0m), handed his league debut.

Nat’s The Way To Do It

It’s fair to say the 23-year-old let nobody down, earning himself plenty of post-match praise from Klopp.

He kept it really simple tonight, which was incredibly important for us. The boys supported him well and he supported the boys; he was vocal and he spoke on the pitch. In the challenges he was there, really aggressive but no fouls really, maybe one. It was a really good game.

Whether he keeps his league place is another matter, however.

Klopp has been non-committal about Joel Matip‘s (£5.4m) return from the knock he picked up in Gameweek 5, but with the games coming thick and fast – Champions League in midweek and a trip to Manchester City on Sunday – Phillips looks likely to be in the frame for at least one of those fixtures.

But however tempting a bargain basement Reds defender might be, Phillips is still a long way off holding down a regular spot in the team.

The Defence Rests

Not that Liverpool defenders, at any price, have been overly attractive this campaign.

Only Andy Robertson (£7.1m) has come close to justifying the lofty price tag that comes with being a member of the Reds’ backline, and that’s been thanks to the goal and two assists he’s produced to boost the one and only clean sheet.

Those attacking returns have saved him from sales…until now. After five weeks of ownership increases, the left-back now finds himself in the top 15 for Gameweek 8 transfers out.

His fellow full-back, Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.4m), knows all about that feeling – he’s lost managers every week since Gameweek 1’s 4-3 win over Leeds United.

Neither were at fault for Saturday’s goal, scored by Pablo Fornals (£6.4m). The midfielder reacted smartly after Joe Gomez‘s (£5.4m) weak clearing header came straight to him, guiding the ball past Alisson (£5.9m) and in off the post.

Alexander-Arnold’s previously nailed-on supply of attacking returns has dried up to just one assist from seven starts and the full-backs managed only one chance created between them – take a bow, Trent – and one shot each against West Ham.

All of that, and Man City and Leicester to come next, suggests more backline sales for the foreseeable future.

Jota Joy

The ownership levels of big hitters Mohamed Salah (£12.4m) and Sadio Mane (£12.0m) have remained rather more stable, although a net -8,171 missed out on an eight-point haul for the former when he earned, and then scored, a penalty to level the score on Saturday.

The spot-kick award was generous, with referee Kevin Friend probably right to deem the contact from Arthur Masuaku (£4.5m) sufficient to be deemed a foul, if not enough to warrant Salah’s dramatic reaction to it.

Friend then went on to deny Mane owners an assist when substitute Diogo Jota (£6.3m) scored from what seemed to be a rebound caused by the Senegal international’s challenge on Lukasz Fabianski (£5.0m).

VAR invited the referee to take another look at the incident and he rightly chalked off the goal for Mane’s sliding tackle on the goalkeeper as it had little to do with the ball.

Minutes later, Jota scored again – from fellow sub Xherdan Shaqiri‘s (£6.4m) canny pass, and that effort stood.

The signing from Wolves now has three goals from his last three matches in all competitions, and three from five in the league, prompting some love from Klopp.

Diogo is in a good moment. He is a good player and we are really happy that we could make that signing, so it is a proper win-win situation. I think we can help him and he can help us a lot.

Jota certainly helps add some flexibility to Liverpool’s system as he started (and scored) in a 4-2-3-1 formation in Gameweek 6.

Klopp, however, reverted to his tried-and-trusted 4-3-3 against the Hammers and while the demands of this season will require frequent squad rotation, it’s hard to see Jota consistently breaking up the German’s preferred front three of Salah, Mane and Roberto Firmino (£9.3m) on anything but an occasional basis.

That’s not stopping managers buying into him – Jota is currently in the top 10 for Gameweek 8 purchases.

But there are nine midfielders around his price with more than the 26 points Jota currently has in Fantasy Premier League (FPL). All have played at least twice as many minutes, so while his output has been impressive – he’s scored three goals from 10 attempts – Jota will do well to sustain that kind of form unless his pitch-time improves.

Hammer Time?

It’s been a long time coming, but West Ham’s schedule is now finally easing, with their fixture list looking generally attractive all the way through to the end of January.

David Moyes’ men have acquitted themselves excellently through a brutal start to the season and their key attackers, such as Fornals and Jarrod Bowen (£6.3m), could well attract plenty of investment from now onwards.

The pair are in the top ten for attempts among midfielders, with 12 apiece, with Fornals the team-leader for chances created (six).

How the Hammers manage without striker Michail Antonio (£6.2m), who missed the match with a hamstring injury, could be key, although Moyes has been upbeat about the issue:

We’ve already got him on the bike and he’s moving, which for the type of injury we’re really pleased with. He had another scan and an ultrasound yesterday (Oct 29) as well. He’s in a good place.

All three midfielders should benefit from an improved schedule, with Fornals leading the way both in terms of points (39 to Bowen’s 33 and Soucek’s 18) and attempts on Saturday – only Salah could match him for the three shots he had.

Fornals looks the most rounded option, with two goals and three assists thus far, while Bowen has three goals to his name.

But despite facing Fulham next, neither are in the top 30 for transfers-in. 

In fact, only one Hammer is and it’s defender Aaron Cresswell (£5.0m), presumably because of the three assists he’s produced this season.


Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Alisson; Robertson, Gomez, N Phillips, Alexander-Arnold; C Jones (Shaqiri 70), Wijnaldum, J Henderson; Mané, Firmino (Jota 70), Salah (Milner 90).

West Ham United XI (3-4-2-1): Fabianski; Cresswell, Ogbonna, Balbuena; Masuaku (Lanzini 88), Soucek, Rice, Coufal; Fornals, Bowen (Benrahma 89); Haller (Yarmolenko 74).

LESSONS LEARNED FROM FPL GAMEWEEK 7

1,155 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Mighty
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone else having trouble logging in? I keep getting this:

    Error
    Sorry, but there has been an unexpected error processing your request.

    1. Mighty
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      To the FPL site that is, not here.

    2. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Same

    3. Buck The Trent
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Works fine

  2. Origi-nal
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Bottomed

    WC thoughts?

    Martinez
    Vestergaard Cresswell Chilwell
    Salah Zaha Ziyech Grealish
    Wilson Vardy Kane

    Macey Bissouma Kilman Konsa

    1. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Feels very kneejerky and I think you can do better than Vestergaard and Cresswell

      As long as you have plans to get city players in as their fixtures turn the team looks good otherwise

      1. Origi-nal
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Tinkering -

        Coufal Dallas Zouma Rashford Adams

        Instead of

        Verstegaard Chilwell Cresswell Zaha Wilson

    2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Where’s Son?!

      1. GloryBXI
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Presumably still in Lamptey's pocket

    3. Simon69
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Have you already pulled the trigger?

      1. Origi-nal
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Not yet, but I will be wildcarding. 2 blanks this week and now an Ings injury to add to it.

  3. Londongeezaa
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Looks like Zaha and Kilman rising tonight.

  4. Gabbiadini
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    surprised people are already trading ings out before confirmed news re: the injury.
    a best case scenario and he may be back for Wolves fixture in 3 weeks time, only missing the one game against Newcastle.

  5. Will J 256
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on this -4? Robertson and Pulisic to Chilwell and Rashford?

    1. Buck The Trent
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Decent

  6. Bob B
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    A. Bowen
    B. Podence
    C. Jota (with Brewster 1st sub)

    1. Iceball
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      A probably ( I have B)

  7. baines is god
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Mitrovic and Salah to Aubemeyang and Maupay?

    I also hold Mane.

    1. Bob B
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Huh?

    2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Yes, given this season those kind of moves will reward you next week

  8. TorresMagic™
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    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Last Man Standing Update (3033 teams)

    Current safety score = 33 (36 with autosubs)
    Top score = 88
    LMS average = 49.1 (-0.64) = 48.46
    Players played = 11/12
    Captains played = 99.54%

    2 games + autosubs to go.

  9. melvinmbabazi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on this for -4? Robertson and Bissouma to Coufal and Zaha and play 3-5-2?

    Martinez | Forster
    Roberston | Chilwell | Lamptey I Konsa I Dallas
    Salah | Son | Rashford | Grealish | Bissouma
    Kane | DCL | Brewster

    0.4 itb, 1FT

    Cheers

    1. Buck The Trent
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Looks good

    2. Simon69
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Wouldn't take a hit for that.

  10. The White Pele
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Is Coufal nailed or can be benched for Fredericks?

  11. Will J 256
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Does anyone know when bench points are added?

    1. Iceball
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      End of gameweek

    2. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      After the games tomorrow obviously.

    3. The White Pele
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      After Tomorrow games

      1. Will J 256
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        • 3 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Cool thanks guys!

  12. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Lol, somehow managed to scrape 49pts and a small green arrow (for now) from 10 players all out and a captain fail (again).

    Hopefully Hamez is back and that’s one less fire to put out with Havertz, Saiss to worry about, along with lack of players like Grealish and even maybe Bamford

    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      74 for me and best net score.

      2 FTs give too many wrong combos.

      1. Top Lad Dakes.
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Grealish and Salah(c) done you well there. And a jammy Lamptey sub haha.

        True re 2FT, it could. May just replace Saiss with either Coufal or Chilwell this week - Havertz to Grealish could maybe wait a week

  13. Dele
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Rashford >> Ziyech?

    1. The White Pele
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      No

    2. Buck The Trent
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Keep rash

  14. fish&chips
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    • 13 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Who is your ultimate troll? Son for me... he's never scored me more than 3 points from a dozen times captaining him

    1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Sterling for me

      1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Not this season but yester years

    2. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Kane

  15. masterkyzz
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Just done TAA Saiss Soucek > Zouma Bellerin Grealish for a -4. Logical moves?

  16. bso
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Who will bring in more points over the next 4-6 weeks...Timo or Bamford?

    1. bso
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Also Ziyech or Hames?
      Thanks

    2. Chucky
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Timo but costs more obv..

    3. bso
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks....who best out of Ziyech or Hames?

      1. Chucky
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        tough one.. Hames if you are going for werner.. otherwise ziyech..

      2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        James if he’s fit

  17. TLF
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    What to do with Foden ?

    Pros

    - Price, 6.6 City mid who has been returning when given the opportunity.
    - Plays for a team who are likely to score plenty of goals over the coming weeks, when he's on the pitch, good chance he'll be involved.
    - 9 SIB this season which going into GW7 was more than any other team-mate.
    - Has potential to score off the bench if required as we've already seen this season.

    Cons

    - Reported as being 'under the weather' of late but rotation will always be a factor regardless, how often is yet to be seen.
    - Holding onto Foden blocks other City assets who are arguably more nailed at the moment.
    - There are other players in and around his price bracket who are catching the eye and offer more assured game time.
     
    I can tolerate the occasional benching but not the occasional start. May hold for another GW then reasses, will be keeping an eye on his minutes Tuesday too.

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Tough one. I have him too and not sure what to do.

      I either keep him and commit to keeping him through City's nice run of games or I ditch now and ride a short-term bandwagon like Ziyech.

      Will wait on CL games and injury news. I'm usually an aggressive team value chaser, but I'm evolving my strategy this year. Been burnt a lot already from all the injuries and the condensed schedule means more will happen.

      The wait until Friday approach will be how I'll be playing from here on out unless I'm going to be imminently priced out of an essential asset.

      1. TLF
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Makes sense Camzy. Personally I have 1 FT this week and nothing itb so unless I take a hit which isn't in my thinking, replacements are a bit more limited should I choose to sell. I don't really see Pool as a bad fixture at the moment so may hold but we shall see, like you, I won't be making any decisions until Friday.

    2. onceuponatyne
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      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I'm probably in the minority, but 6.6m for a player who usually plays in the Man City front three? Even if he only gets an average of 30mins a game going forward (it'll be more), I want him.

      1. Bob B
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        What's your opinion on someone like Jota then, exactly the same?

        1. onceuponatyne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          That's a good argument.
          I think this Liverpool side will have a really good shot of winning the league, but with VVD out I don't think we'll see as many high scoring results as we will with City once they get their mojo. I also think Foden will get rotated, but is probably equal first choice in their side. Jota's (currently) not a starter in games that matter, it'll be appearances from the bench mostly. IMO.

      2. TLF
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Interesting, you got a GW in mind to bring him in ?

        1. onceuponatyne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Had him since GW1 and suspension/injury don't see me getting rid.
          It's not been successful thus far, but then Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool have had relatively weird starts... I know Liverpool are top, but I've had Liverpool defenders and Man City midfielders and the low points thus far won't continue like this IMO.

          1. TLF
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Yes Foden may just be one of those players to hang onto and ride out the blip. If he's getting regular game time as and when City click, the points should come rolling in.

            1. onceuponatyne
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              I think it's that... but it's those points for 6.6m too.
              I would imagine that he'll do more damage this season in 30mins per game average (and it'll be higher than that), than most midfielders get in 90.

    3. Shark Team
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      If you have bench cover then keep. I think he will be majorly favoured of ManCity's fixture swing as he is probably gonna start Vs Burnley Fulham etc. While others resting for the difficult tasks

      1. TLF
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I can certainly see him being involved but to what extent I really don't know, trying to guess Pep is never an easy thing to do is it ! I Don't think bench cover means much with Foden, he's likely to get minutes more often than not even if he doesn't start.

  18. Royal5
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    TAA only #33 among defenders i points. What are peoples plan with him? No where close to being worth his pricetag.

    1. bso
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I have Robertson...he is out the door this week. Would do the same with TAA. Bring in Chilwell and Zouma.

      1. Royal5
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Yup getting one of the for sure.

        1. Royal5
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Also own Vinagre and Mitchell :/

    2. Chucky
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      forced to keep TAA as I had to replace Saiss.. now Ings got injured so TAA stays for now...

      1. Royal5
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Understandable

  19. Chucky
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    2.1m to 1.5m... will be in top 500k by GW 10 😀

  20. Heisenberg W. W.
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Posting again as I want to avoid price changes.

    Best replacement for Saiss

    1. Bellerin
    2. Coufal

    1. bso
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Coufal. Would not touch an ARS player...so many better options.

  21. baines is god
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Has Saiss lost his starting place now?

  22. Iceball
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Son or Kane captain vs WBA?

    1. Tinkermania
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      If you think Spurs get a pen, then Kane. Otherwise Son.

  23. Digital-Real
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Worth holding onto Antonio?

  24. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Lampteys 9 points ready and willing to come off my bench. I like Stuart Dallas but would rather he didn't show tomorrow night.

    1. Iceball
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Nice feeling to get Lamptey 1st sub for Saiss

      1. DA Minnion (Former great)
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        That is sweet.

    2. Simon69
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Do you support Leeds?

      1. DA Minnion (Former great)
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah . Life long.

  25. Shark Team
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    The biggest differences between bad good and best FPL managers will be highlighted from gw9 and on. Transfer planning starts from this gw and it's very important not to spend your transfers for no reasons

    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Why GW9 onward?

    2. Simon69
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Massive assumption. Can't say I agree based on United and City performances in the league.

    3. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Problem is the Manchester teams both aren't looking great

      1. Shark Team
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I'm completely avoiding ManUtd. Only Bruno should be on the radar because he barely blanks if United scores but still their fixtures are not that favourable. Eve Sou Whu away can all prove difficult to cope with. On the other side despite ManCity's very easy fixtures I think I'm gonna just get KDB to cover it all

    4. STONEROSES
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Who would you say to get in from GW9?

  26. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Chelsea to somehow have a mare defensively next week to ruin the defence bandwagon - inevitable eh?

    Is Chilwell the best option? Or could it be Zouma for the price difference (assuming he’s nailed!)

    1. Yankee Toffee
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Spend the cash and Chill

  27. bso
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Did Lamptey just get injured? Badly?

    1. Royal5
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Hammy issue potentially

    2. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Bugger really

  28. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Saiss probably has gotta go right? Questionable if he even gets his spot back? Can’t have question marks over 5m when I could have Coufal at 4.5, or splash on Chilwell/Zouma too

    1. Simon69
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Get rid ASAP.

      1. Top Lad Dakes.
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Probably a shout eh. Have 2FT 1.2 ITB this week so can afford anyway - may make that my only moves, injuries permitting.

        Can’t decide between Zouma / Chilwell / Coufal

    2. John Nerdelbaum
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Bellerin?

  29. Birds of Prey
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Is FPL site down where y'all are. Don't think it's just me, or is that update thing never seen error?

  30. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Weird feeling that I could soon be relying on a Hammers defender rather than one of the usually trusty 4.5 Burnley