Scout Notes

‘Form versus fixtures’ poser for Son and Kane’s owners after late Spurs win

WEST BROMWICH ALBION 0-1 TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR

  • Goals: Harry Kane (£11.0m)
  • Assists: Matt Doherty (£5.8m)
  • Bonus: Kane, Doherty x3, Sergio Reguilon (£5.6m) x1

Harry Kane’s (£11.0m) owners will remember his late header that briefly sent Tottenham Hotspur top of the table but it was an otherwise forgettable match at the Hawthorns that had looked destined for 0-0 mediocrity.

Spurs were unconvincing in this Sunday lunchtime clash – a combination of tiredness from their midweek Europa League trip to Bulgaria and a resilient West Brom who were unlucky to have a point cruelly snatched away.

Reflecting on the game, Jose Mourinho said:

It was one of those matches with all the ingredients to lose a couple of points – difficult opponents, they want to stop you, they analyse you, they see where you are strong, they try to close every possible door, and they did it.

Kane was quiet but all he needed was an 88th-minute cross by Matt Doherty (£5.8m), rising to head the Irishman’s delivery home.

That was the England striker’s eighth goal from as many matches against the Baggies and his 150th Premier League strike overall, maintaining Spurs’ 100% away record.

KANE IS ABLE

Over two million FPL managers captained Kane this week, no doubt expecting another haul after Spurs’ previous three away wins produced a combined 12-3 score. But things were much tougher here against a side fighting to escape the relegation zone.

For all the comments about Kane essentially playing as a midfielder, he still provides the goals to go alongside his new-found creativity. The two assists of last season have already been eclipsed by eight this time and he entered the weekend with a number of chances created (14) and big chances created (9) far higher than the next best from a forward.

Similar to how Roberto Firmino (£9.2m) acts like a false nine for Mohamed Salah (£12.4m) and Sadio Mane (£12.0m) to play as two forwards, Kane was seemingly sitting deep for a Son Heung-min (£9.6m) and Gareth Bale (£9.5m) strike force. Yet it is the England captain who takes home the points, while Son disappointed many by not continuing his streak of double-digit away hauls.

SON STOPS SHINING

Clearly, it isn’t maintainable to get 24, 18 or 11 points every time but Son missed a huge chance in the first half. Put through by Tanguy Ndombele (£5.9m), Son seemed hesitant to pull the trigger as West Brom defenders sprinted back to catch up. He eventually dug out a shot but it missed.

A second successive blank will concern his 60% ownership, especially considering the fixture swing that now awaits Jose Mourinho’s side.

Their first six games after the international break include meetings with Manchester City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and Leicester City. In a classic FPL debate about form versus fixtures, what will the many who have doubled up on both Kane and Son do about this difficult run? Particularly when premium assets at Manchester City and Manchester United are about to begin a kind run.

Neither player is at fault, as they sit atop the FPL game as highest scorers so far. They have accumulated 15 goals and 10 assists between them from only eight matches – truly phenomenal numbers. In a crazy season which has produced huge shocks, great comebacks, many goals and little sense, perhaps it is too logical to assume that Kevin De Bruyne (£11.5m), Bruno Fernandes (£10.5m) or Raheem Sterling (£11.5m) are the way forward.

The team news was headlined by Bale starting his first league match since returning to Spurs on loan from Real Madrid. Against Brighton, he came off the bench to score a late winner – such drama is becoming a habit in recent weeks, replacing the heavy wins of before – and was deemed ready to form a fearsome front three alongside Kane and Son. In truth, he was ineffective, almost reaching a cross early in the second half but producing nothing else.

REGUILON CONTINUES TO ATTACK

Only left-back Sergio Reguilon (£5.6m) was providing any attacking threat as the match dragged on. Long-range shots in the 59th minute were saved and then blazed over, with a later effort being blocked into the path of Giovani Lo Celso (£6.9m). Had the substitute scored, it would have been Reguilon’s third assist from five league appearances.

In addition to a clean sheet, Reguilon certainly passed the eye test – crossing for Carlos Vinicius’ (£7.0m) low left-footed shot that produced a wonderful save from Sam Johnstone (£4.5m). And yet it was Doherty on the other flank who provided Kane’s assist.

The £15m signing from Wolves was initially heavily-backed by the FPL community but has gradually been abandoned, dropping twice in price because he had registered no attacking returns and was rotated twice with Serge Aurier (£5.2m).

WINLESS BAGGIES

In his programme notes, the under-pressure Slaven Bilic demanded that his players be “more streetwise, more mature and dirty in the game”. He got what he asked for, with West Brom arguably the better side for most of the match.

The Baggies boss said after full-time:

My message to the players was that this has to be our standard now. We have to perform like this in every minute of every game as a minimum. It’s really difficult to take confidence from a defeat because the best way to get confidence is to win games and climb up the league. But you can also get confidence from performances and today was an example of that.

Bilic was forced into making changes to his side after Matheus Pereira (£5.9m) and Branislav Ivanovic (£4.5m) tested positive for coronavirus. He used this opportunity to switch systems, going for a 5-4-1 wing-back formation with the returning Kyle Bartley (£4.5m) and Dara O’Shea (£4.3m) featuring at centre-half.

Karlan Grant (£5.9m) somehow missed a free header from six yards after a brilliant Darnell Furlong (£4.5m) cross, before a teasing Callum Robinson (£5.5m) delivery dropped over Hugo Lloris (£5.5m) and was headed off the line by Eric Dier (£4.9m). The second half saw Conor Gallagher (£5.5m) hit the post from distance and Furlong’s header force an acrobatic save from Lloris.

However, they are still without a win. Apart from back-up goalkeeper David Button (£4.0m), no West Brom player has ownership above 2%. Their players are relatively untouched but, if looking for a differential, it might be worth considering that their next home games are against Sheffield United, Crystal Palace, Aston Villa and Leeds.

The Baggies have been better at the back of late than they have going forward and Johnstone is one of the cheapest starting goalkeepers out there, sitting third for saves among top-flight shot-stoppers.

Given Aston Villa’s favourable schedule, Emiliano Martinez (£4.8m) will, however, remain the go-to option for many.


West Bromwich Albion XI (5-4-1): Johnstone; Furlong, Bartley, Ajayi, O’Shea, Townsend; Krovinovic, Livermore (Edwards 89′), Gallagher, Robinson (Diangana 67′); Grant (Phillips 84′).

Tottenham Hotspur XI (4-3-3): Lloris; Doherty, Alderweireld, Dier, Reguilon; Hojbjerg, Ndombele (Lo Celso 64′), Sissoko (Carlos Vinicius 79′); Bale (Lucas Moura 78′), Son, Kane.

Lessons Learned from FPL Gameweek 8

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1,357 Comments Post a Comment
  1. FPL_Crisis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Any benefit for me to do Jimenez to Bamford now before price changes for both or cop it and wait til post IB?
    Been waiting for Antonio news but time is of the essence

    1. Kindness
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I'm in same predicament. Thinking may just do it tonight as Bamford doesn't play internationals

        1. FPL_Crisis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Cool GL
          Are you confident of Bamford over Antonio?
          Fixtures say no...

          1. Kindness
              3 years, 5 months ago

              I was planning to get both, getting in Bamford first for next gameweek so I'm not priced out of future planned moves. Would have preferred to get in Antonio first but obviously don't know extent of injury. Both good options, though I'd say Antonio is slightly better for now - if you can afford the price changes I'd say wait for more news

              1. FPL_Crisis
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                3 years, 5 months ago

                The extra 0.2m from jimmy drop bamford rise would be handy to get Bruno

        2. Vazza
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Haha! See my post below.

      • Vazza
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Would you sell Jimenez for Watkins tonight to catch price fluctuations.?

        1. FPL_Crisis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Gold. Well if you’re set on Watkins then do it now.
          I’m still on the fence Bamford v Antonio-thoughts?

          1. Vazza
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            You’re not keen on Watkins or do you already have him?

            1. FPL_Crisis
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              Martinez Steer Grealish so not an option for me
              Was keen on Wilson until his injury
              I'd be happy with Bamford or Antonio

          2. The Big Fella
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Bamford for me - West Ham are still West Ham regardless of fixtures

      • Sz21
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        6 red arrows in a row. Maybe time to WC.
        This GW or next? Have 2 ft's but plenty of issues.

        McCarthy.
        TAA, Chilwell, Mitchell.
        Son, Salah, Barkley, Podence.
        Kane, DCL, Jimenez.
        Button, Ayling, Justin, Bissouma.
        2fts, 1.8m ITB.

        1. Saïss Doesn't Mat…
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          What? No!! Just downgrade jimi to cheaper mid (wilson, Bamford or Watkins) and upgrade Mitchell to a decent starting def

          1. Saïss Doesn't Mat…
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Cheaper forward*
            You could also take a hit to upgrade Podence to zaha

      • BenDavies
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Who would you rather own for the next three?

        DCL or Watkins?

        1. MikeS
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Dcl

        2. MikeS
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Depends if you have grealish though?

          1. BenDavies
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            I do have Grealish.

            1. MikeS
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              Have villa cover then, so you have any other Everton? Rodriguez?

              1. BenDavies
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 5 months ago

                No Everton cover at all, which is my worry.

      • bigbudgie
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Ryan
        Coufal Chilwell Walker-Pieters Lewis Ferguson
        Salah Mane Son Bowen Bissouma
        Kane WIlson DCL

        Save FT lads? Or
        A) Wilson > Watkins (not sure if Wilson will be fit + villa form)
        B) Son or Mane > Bruno/Rashford?

      • Saïss Doesn't Mat…
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Should I wildcard this team? Deadwood starting to accumulate.

        Leno* Nyland
        Robbo* Saïss* Taylor Justin Mitchell*
        Salah Son Grealish Zaha Podence*
        Kane Wilson Brewster*

        1. Volley127
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Tbh I probably would. I think Wilson should go although Robbo I’d probably keep. Could move on Spurs players too considering fixtures.

      • Boomerang V
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        A) Son -> Ziyech
        B) Son -> Rodriguez

        1. Hulk Smash
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          A for long term

        2. MikeS
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Ziyech on form, Rodriguez on fixtures. Tough one

          1. Boxwoods
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            I’m with Hulk on this. HRod may smash it vs Fulham tho.

      • humar816
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Hi guys, any thoughts?

        Martinez (Steer)
        Chilwell-Lamptey-KWP (Mitchell- Amartey)
        Salah-Bruno-KDB-Podence-ASM
        Kane-DCL (Brewster)

        I’m thinking of taking a hit to go either:
        Podence + Chilwell - Ziyech and Coufal
        Podence + DCL - Ziyech and Watkins

        Which one, if any?

        1. Saïss Doesn't Mat…
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Do not sell chilwell

      • Hulk Smash
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Planning all 3 moves below - is it worth making any of them now due to price changes? Maybe the Cresswell move because he's not playing during the IB?
        I have 0.3m wiggle room but Chilwell is predicted to rise tonight and Saiss to drop.

        Robertson > Chilwell
        Son > Bruno
        Saiss > Cresswell (-4)

        1. The Polymath
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Do all 3 now

        2. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          I am planning similar moves;

          Son to Bruno and Reguilon to Cresswell

          What do you think should I do it?

      • Boomerang V
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I am tempted to upgrade Bissouma to Soucek (4.9) as a 5th mid and alternate 343 and 352 with my 3rd attacker, who at the moment is Wilson but might become Bamford of Watkins

        1. Boss Hogg
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Soucek is a good 7th attacker but do you really want him as your 8th? And would you really bench a penalty taking striker to play him?
          I wouldn’t do it unless you are rotating him with someone like Brewster.

          1. Boomerang V
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Yeah I can see benching headaches with that move. And we always end up picking the wrong one...
            I think he is a bargain at 4.9 but I don’t want to get rid of any mid other than Bissouma.

      • Dr. Ante Pavlovic
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        So I have 1.0 itb and this team:

        Mendy, Button
        Chilly, Reguilon, Coufal, Justin, 3.9
        Salah, Son, Ziyech, James, Grealish
        Kane, DCL, Brewster

        What do you think?
        Reguilon and Son to Cresswell and Bruno for a hit?

        1. MikeS
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Not feeling the Bruno love tbh. Leave

          1. Wolfman180
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            I was initially feeling a move for Bruno however West Brom don't seem to be the whipping boys that most people think they are. I can see united struggling to score past them

            1. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              Spurs were struggling with WBA but United should break them apart imo. With strikeforce like they have, they should score at least 3-4 against a low quality defence of Brom.

              1. Bleh
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 5 months ago

                Not sure if this is sarcasm or not...

                1. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 5 months ago

                  I get that a lot here. Don't see why.

              2. Wolfman180
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                3 years, 5 months ago

                I agree that they should... doesn't always happen though, I can see it being another 1-0 win

      • arndff_
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Jota or Watkins/Bamford?

        1. Boss Hogg
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Watkins - penalties

        2. The Knights Template
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Bamford

      • Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Thoughts?

        Martinez
        James - Semedo - Chillwell (James, Dunne)
        Mane - Sterling - Rodriguez - Foden - Podence
        DCL - Kane (Brewster)
        2 FT 1.1 ITB

        Debating Kane -> Antonio/Watkins and Podence -> Fernandes (C) for next GW. Semedo -> Cancelo/Dias locked in for GW10. Foden probably needs to go for Grealish soon.

        1. The Knights Template
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          All sound moves. Prefer Watkins over injury-waiting-to-happen Antonio.

      • FCSB
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Best Saiss replacement:

        1. KWP / Vestergaard
        2. Cresswell / Coufal
        3. Kilman
        4. Lamptey
        5. Bellerin
        6. James (already have Chilwell)

        Thanks

        1. The Knights Template
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          4

        2. 1984 TC
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Ballarina

        3. Eightball
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          1) Don't like their fixture run
          2) I just did that move before this gameweek. Pretty happy with it
          3) don't like wolves fixtures and wolves look a bit ropey. I think some rotation might happen
          4) solid pick
          5) bit left field but could work
          6) rotation risk, don't like

          1. FCSB
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Thanks for taking the time to do that, very helpful

            2 or 4 I think best routes

      • jia you
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Just the 1 blank in 8 GWs is pretty epic for a 7.0 striker, probably hasn't happened before?

      • BenDavies
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Who is the best 5.4m or under defender?

        1. Bleh
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Cancelo?

          1. BenDavies
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            This is what I'm thinking, I'm just concerned about the rotation risk.

        2. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          What sort of defender do you want?

          1. BenDavies
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            A defender that is likely to get a lot of points in the next few fixtures whether that be attacking returns or clean sheets

            1. Dr Dream
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              Maguire.

              1. BenDavies
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 5 months ago

                1 cs in 8 and a centre back. Not sure about that

                1. Dr Dream
                  • 11 Years
                  3 years, 5 months ago

                  Up to you then.

              1. BenDavies
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 5 months ago

                you tease me as a non-member, but i appreciate maguire may have decent underlying stats. just not my cup of tea. prefer full backs.

                1. Dr Dream
                  • 11 Years
                  3 years, 5 months ago

                  So do I...that’s who I won’t pick him. He remains the best pick though...with the caveat that there’s actually not any good defences to rely on right now for CS’s.

        3. 1984 TC
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Bellerino

      • Bleh
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Biggest priority to bring in?

        A. Grealish
        B. Ziyech

        1. yanky
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          A fixtures are unreal

          1. Bleh
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Cheers, my thinking too. Now whether to go Grealish or Watkins...

            1. yanky
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              haha yeah i got grealish but am most likely gonna bring in watkins too- either thru downgrading kane (to fund KDB/Sterling) or ship out maupay for him, but both feels somewhat safe with those fixtures- playmaker and striker on pens who both should see 90 mins

              1. Bleh
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 5 months ago

                True, both look like great picks. Watkins is on pens you say?

                I made the idiot mistake of having both Martinez and Steer so can’t have both unfortunately!

                1. yanky
                  • 14 Years
                  3 years, 5 months ago

                  yeah watkins took a pen last gwk when team was at full strength

      • Duffy Dunk
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Would you do Maupay Jorginho Son to Brewster Ziyech Fernandes ?

      • Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Is there a sound reason why Fernandes - United in general - are doing so much better away from home?

        1. F_Ivanovic
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          can't see it. less pressure? doesn't really make much sense though.

        2. lugs
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          their shape is better, because the onus is always on the home team to come out and attack, instead of trying to force the issue themselves at home

      • OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Maupay to Bamford or Abraham?

        1. 1984 TC
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Watty.
          Are those the only options you are considering?

          1. OPTA FPL
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Got Grealish

            1. 1984 TC
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              Ok, then Abraham and that’s only bcz I’m not a Pukki, I mean, Bambi believer.

      • yanky
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        wildcard- yes or no? would make 6 moves starred below...debating wildcard now or save for closer to christmas/double gameweeks

        McCarthy
        TAA* Chilwell Cresswell Lamptey Mitchell*
        Salah Son* Grealish Podence* Bissouma
        Kane* DCL Maupay*

        1. Bleh
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Save, team is nothing 1-2 hits couldn’t sort out. You’ll be needing it later (already played mine and regret it)

          1. yanky
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            thanks bro

        2. BenDavies
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          not worth the WC at all. Son and Kane can be kept for City, could be a lot of goals. The rest you can sort out with FT's.

      • Dr. Ante Pavlovic
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Would a midfield line of
        /Salah, Sterling, Bruno, Ziyech, Grealish/
        compensate the lack of premium forwards? (DCL, Wilson)

        1. Hulk Smash
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Yes because Bruno, Ziyech and Grealish all look underpriced at the minute (as do some of the mid-priced forwards).

      • Bleh
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Who wins short-medium term?

        A. Cancelo, Grealish, Bamford
        B. Cresswell, J.Rod, Watkins

      • Hulk Smash
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        How's this for a stat:

        Bruno has delivered 8 attacking returns, including 3 double digit hauls, in just 7 games yet his price hasn't increased at all.

      • Wolfman180
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        A) Salah/Son/Jesus
        Or
        B) Bruno/KDB/Kane

      • sozopol
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Is Mings good value at 5.2, 6.0 PPM? I'm thinking Mitchell out tonight for him, or maybe Coufal at 4.5, also good value. My other defenders are Chilwell, Justin, Ayling, and Saiss (I'll be getting rid of him as well)

        1. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Of course he is. One of your defenders/keepers should be one with the best fixtures...so tick that box.

      • Gruu
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        for those of you that still have your wildcard, what's your plan? saving the Wildcard for later?

        1. BenDavies
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          saving the wildcard for gw16.

          1. Gruu
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            what's happen with gw16?

        2. waldo666
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Yep, doing my best to hold onto it, as bad as I am currently doing there hasn't been a week where I would want to change anymore than 4 players at the most.

      • BenDavies
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Zouma or Cancelo?

        1. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Cancelo but wait on Mendy news. Zouma could get rotation with Rudiger very soon.

      • ZLNR
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Are there any articles yet previewing the GW16 WC strat. I know things could change by then just want to get an idea of a plan

      • Dr. Ante Pavlovic
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Reguilon and Son to Cresswell and Bruno for a hit?