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How Wildcarding top 10k FPL managers have prepared for Double Gameweek 19

A significant portion of Fantasy Premier League managers inside the top 10,000 overall rankings re-shaped their squads for Gameweek 16.

9.3% of those deployed the first Wildcard at the last chance of asking for the final Gameweek of 2020 – with Mohamed Salah (£12.6m) very much a key figure.

Thanks to the data on LiveFPL.net, we can analyse which other assets played a part in this squad shuffle, especially thinking of the upcoming Blank and Double Gameweeks.

Firstly, we can see that, as the Gameweek 16 deadline passed, 92.0% of top 10k managers had used the first Wildcard.

That means that just over 8.0% of those at this level proverbially ‘wasted’ it by leaving the chip unused.

Could that indicate a degree of inactivity even among the top 10k, or were there that many managers happy enough with their existing squad not to need it. Imaging that luxury is enough to make anyone envious.

As you can see from the bar chart above, we can see that, after 16 Gameweeks, 5.0% of the top 10k achieved their lofty rank without the use of even one chip.

64.6% have deployed one, almost certainly the Wildcard based on the rule of probability, while the relative lack of managers to have used more than that suggests we should see plenty Triple Captains, Free Hits and Bench Boosts when the Blank and Double Gameweeks come around.

As mentioned already, Salah was the key man on top 10k Wildcards, selected by 95.9% of these managers, the most of any asset.

He is marginally more popular than Bruno Fernandes (£11.1m) and Patrick Bamford (£6.5m), included in 95.8% and 94.6% of top 10k Wildcard squads respectively.

Despite blanking in five of the last nine Gameweeks, Son Heung-min (£9.7m) is not far behind the trio in terms of Wildcard support, chosen by 88.0% of these managers. 

Back-to-back home matches against newly-promoted opposition are sure to have influenced that decision, as well as a fixture in Blank Gameweek 18, taking Spurs to Villa Park.

Midfield is certainly an area where the top 10k have been as unanimous as possible in terms of selection, Tomáš Souček (£5.1m) selected by 70.2% of Wildcarders at this level ahead of a Double Gameweek line-up of Burnley (home) and West Bromwich Albion (home).

Apart from Bamford, the top 10k were less emphatic in the overall choices up-front. It is certainly noteworthy that Harry Kane (£11.0m) was considerably less popular in these Wildcard squads than Son with 55.7% inclusion.

Also interesting is the fact that Che Adams (£6.1m) has picked up the support of 41.7%, the value offered by a striker facing Leicester (away) and Leeds (away) in Double Gameweek 19.

Premium defenders struggled to get much of a look-in for top 10k Wildcarders, none of the top-five most-fashionable assets in this position costing more than £5.0m at the time of writing.

James Justin‘s (£5.0m) remarkable powers of recovery have helped him start and play 90 minutes in every match for Leicester this season, even between Gameweeks 15 and 16.

The top 10k have cottoned onto that, especially those Wildcarding, 62.0% choosing him ahead of a Double Gameweek 19 line-up of Southampton (home) and Chelsea (home).

Charlie Taylor (£4.5m) and Stuart Dallas (£4.7m) are in just shy of 60% of top 10k Wildcard squads, with Vladimir Coufal (£4.7m) and Kyle Walker-Peters (£4.8m) also extensively included.

In terms of what these selections mean for future chip planning, the fact that so many popular Wildcard assets are Double Gameweekers indicates the Free Hit could receive extensive attention in Blank Gameweek 18.

In terms of how that compares with the template for the rest of the top 10k rank bracket, there are some notable exclusions.

Jack Grealish (£7.8m) is in 53.8% of squads at this level but did not feature in the Wildcard template.

The same goes for Dominic Calvert-Lewin (£8.0m), currently owned by 62.8% of the top 10k.

Meanwhile, it is clear that the Wildcarders at this level used the chip to bring their defence in line with the overall template, the same five players appearing in each matrix we have compared.

Finally, Salah is the most dangerous asset in the top 10k for Gameweek 16, backed by 54.3% for the captaincy.

That brings his effective ownership at this level to 142.8%, 46.1 percentage points higher than the second-placed in that category: Manchester United midfielder Fernandes.

It is also interesting to note how the stock of Spurs attackers has fallen, especially in the captaincy debate.

A home meeting with Fulham stood out to many as a key game for those in possession of Son and Kane – less so now.

Spurs’ own slump is likely a contributing factor as well as Fulham’s improved defensive displays.

As a result, Kane and Son were captained only by 19.8% and 13.5% of the top 10k respectively.

Statistics taken from LiveFPL.net.

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1,903 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Warby84
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 months, 25 days ago

    Is holding worth a bench spot or move Branthwaite to Mitchell for the blank??

    No free hit, currently have 7 but looking to get 9..

    1. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 8 Years
      3 months, 25 days ago

      Holding is worth it insofar as he will almost certainly play the next 2-3 (due to unavailability) and will likely play the games thereafter in the short term as Arteta seems to favour him.

      1. The Count of Monte Cristo
        • 8 Years
        3 months, 25 days ago

        As for CS-potential, can't really trust Arsenal with that atm. Better than having Branthwaite who isn't going to play, if you can afford it.

        1. Warby84
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 months, 25 days ago

          My plan is to play 3 from the bench so won’t affect my dbl GW team too much..

    2. Hart-ake
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 25 days ago

      Sure, think it's a decent short term option.

  2. Vazza
      3 months, 25 days ago

      Who will be the next Coutinho in the PL?

      Any guesses?

      1. Lallana
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 25 days ago

        Miss those outside the box finesse shots

      2. Bounce
          3 months, 25 days ago

          Emile Smith Rowe

        • james 101
          • 9 Years
          3 months, 25 days ago

          Maddy

        • The Count of Monte Cristo
          • 8 Years
          3 months, 25 days ago

          What constitutes the next Coutinho? Flashes of brilliance and a lot of mediocrity?

          I have watched every Barcelona game this season and he really has struggled.

          There are several players that come to Barcelona and struggle with adapting to the league and the style. But I have not seen someone struggle as much as he has for over a decade.

          This includes players like Paulinho, Arda Turan and Arturo Vidal.

          1. The Count of Monte Cristo
            • 8 Years
            3 months, 25 days ago

            Rant over, sorry.

            1. Vazza
                3 months, 25 days ago

                It’s cool mate. Most of us are feeling a little miserable after a disappointing start to the GW

            2. Vazza
                3 months, 25 days ago

                The Coutinho I’m referring to is the one who once played for Liverpool

              • Wizardh
                  3 months, 25 days ago

                  Paulinho was world class in Barcelona. Still is imo and it would be nice to see him in PL.

              • Whazza
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                3 months, 25 days ago

                Just a wild guess because he was subbed on tonight and tried to curl it... Jacob Ramsey?

              • ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
                • 6 Years
                3 months, 25 days ago

                Pogba

              • Vazza
                  3 months, 25 days ago

                  Curtis Jones is the correct answer. Thanks for trying guys. 🙂

                  1. Whazza
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 8 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Hmm not sure he reminds me of Coutinho 😀 more of a CM and quite physical

                • noquarternt
                  • 5 Years
                  3 months, 25 days ago

                  A player who takes 20 shots outside the box a game and occasionally gets one in?

                  Doucoure?

                • FDMS All Starz
                  • 5 Years
                  3 months, 25 days ago

                  Pedro Neto looks a class player at 20yrs old, if he moves to a better club or if wolves step up, he could dominate for years

              • VINS
                • 4 Years
                3 months, 25 days ago

                Anyone going for a FH19?

                1. Ron_Swanson
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  3 months, 25 days ago

                  Yep

                  1. VINS
                    • 4 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    nice

              • Lallana
                • 7 Years
                3 months, 25 days ago

                Which combo?

                1) Barnes, Martial
                2) Soucek, Vardy

                1 is more of a punt but last season Martial and Barnes did really well and they have some nice fixtures coming up

                1. Pat Bonner
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  3 months, 25 days ago

                  2 is what I’m looking at this week

                2. Gabbiadini
                  • 3 Years
                  3 months, 25 days ago

                  2.

                3. Whiskerz
                  • 7 Years
                  3 months, 25 days ago

                  I went 2, but am trying to squeeze martial in too over Adams.

              • Gabbiadini
                • 3 Years
                3 months, 25 days ago

                1. Hold or trade DCL?

                2. On the gw19 BB would you rather

                a) Fabianski & Smith-Rowe/4.5
                or.
                b) Johnstone & Soucek

                Cheers.

                1. Pat Bonner
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  3 months, 25 days ago

                  B

                2. Maeki2
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  3 months, 25 days ago

                  B

              • Bounce
                  3 months, 25 days ago

                  In serious trouble what to do here. I have 2 FT and if I don't use them for next GW week they'll be wasted when I FH18.

                  McCarthy • Johnstone
                  Dias • Justin • Dallas • Coufal • Taylor
                  Salah • Fernandes • Son • Raphinha • Soucek
                  Kane • Calvert-Lewin • Bamford

                  0.3 ITB

                  1. Pat Bonner
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Team looks great. Wait and see what happens in next few days but don’t be worried about burning the transfers.

                • Sun Jihai
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  3 months, 25 days ago

                  @BenCrellin

                  If you're thinking about making early transfers in GW17, here are some of the things that could possibly be announced this week:

                  CHE vs MCI becoming a GW17 Blank

                  BUR vs MUN moving to DGW17

                  BUR vs MUN moving to GW18 (neither team would Blank)

                  EVE vs MCI moving to DGW19

                  1. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
                    • 6 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    The king of stating the obvious strikes again.

                    1. The Count of Monte Cristo
                      • 8 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Obvious to those of us in tune with things on this site and in the FPL-sphere.

                      Great for those who follow him on Twitter and want a 5-second snapshot while scrolling

                    2. FPL.team
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 4 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      None of that except the City blank is obvious to me snarky.

                  2. Lallana
                    • 7 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Why are United fixtures being moved around?

                    1. Sun Jihai
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 9 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      They need to reschedule their cancelled GW1 fixture vs. Burnley but have very few gaps later in the season for it to be moved to

                      1. Sun Jihai
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 9 Years
                        3 months, 25 days ago

                        Manchester United waiting for Premier League response on postponed Burnley match amid potential fixture chaos
                        Burnley vs Man United has still not been allocated a date even though both clubs have a free midweek in January.
                        (Manchester Evening News)

                        1. Lallana
                          • 7 Years
                          3 months, 25 days ago

                          thank you

                    2. Whazza
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      It's the blank game from gw1

                  3. FPL.team
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 4 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    So Utd and Burnley would have two doubles in 3 weeks?

                    1. FPL.team
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 4 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Potentially in one scenario

                • Jimjam
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  3 months, 25 days ago

                  Grealish & DCL ---> El Ghazi & Vardy good moves?

                  1. Wizardh
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Interesting surely but El Ghazi will not continue to outscore Jack imo

                      1. Pedersen
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 2 Years
                        3 months, 25 days ago

                        You sure. Just took a look at the stat and his xG is much higher than grealish. If he get all minutes, he might be the same or higher potential

                        1. FDMS All Starz
                          • 5 Years
                          3 months, 25 days ago

                          Also on pens

                    • Firminoooo
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 5 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Would not bring in El Ghazi if you are building a team for DGW19.

                  2. Will J 256
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Hi guys, I know this gameweek is far from over but thoughts on this -4? Have a few issues in defence!

                    Matip and Lamptey to Robertson and C Taylor?

                    1. W
                      • 7 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Sounds good to me, matip out for a long time

                  3. W
                    • 7 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    If you could only do one, which would yield the greatest value for DGW19:

                    A) Steer > Meslier/Johnstone
                    B) Romeu > Soucek

                    If A, which do you prefer?

                    Cheers!

                    1. g40steve
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 3 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      A I like Mes but Johnstone seems very popular, probably the big Sam effect?

                      1. W
                        • 7 Years
                        3 months, 25 days ago

                        Cheers mate, leaning towards Meslier out of the two

                    2. Neves say Neves
                      • 2 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Probably A with Johnstone

                      1. W
                        • 7 Years
                        3 months, 25 days ago

                        Thanks!

                    3. Pat Bonner
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 9 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Got to be A if on BB

                      1. W
                        • 7 Years
                        3 months, 25 days ago

                        It is yeah, cheers

                    4. Maeki2
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Johnstone is amazing

                  4. The Big Fella
                    • 4 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Do we think Stones is nailed? I hate Pep roulette but it is very tempting to do Lamptey to Stones

                    1. Neves say Neves
                      • 2 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      90% nailed I would say. I think city vs Chelsea will be postponed though

                    2. Pat Bonner
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 9 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      1st choice at the minute but it’s pep so can change anytime

                      1. The Big Fella
                        • 4 Years
                        3 months, 25 days ago

                        Yeah that's my worry. I just want him from 18 onwards I think. Might leave it a week and do Kilman to Holding this week....

                    3. No Professionals
                      • 3 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Seems in favour at them min, but Dias and Laporte are both twice the player he is, surely they end up first choice

                  5. Firminoooo
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 5 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Did a rooki mistake. Salah(C) and Mane(VC).

                    1. J ⚒ Salah & Vinagre
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 6 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Same lol, vc TAA

                    2. Dynamic Duos
                      • 7 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Liverpool going to be off?

                    3. Canarinha
                      • 2 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      It could pay off bro, Pool is the best attacking team and they could easily assist each other vs Newcastle

                    4. Marcin the Pole
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 5 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Me too! Praying for a non postponement.

                  6. Neves say Neves
                    • 2 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    A) Son + 5.6 def (Cresswell/Justin) -4
                    B) Rashford + Coufal

                    Just for this week

                  7. Pukkipartyy
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 2 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Rapinha or Soucek?

                  8. Nespinha
                    • 5 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Grealish to Barnes to beat price rise, and one more for BB19

                    Yes or not worth 0.1 (aka be patient)

                    1. JIMMY764
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 6 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Like the move. Wait until deadline.

                    2. W
                      • 7 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Barnes isn't rising?

                  9. jdp219
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 4 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    The current GW Rank #1 has -58 overall points and has made 247 transfers. I truly don't understand some managers. Then again, I've never been GW Rank #1.

                    1. FPL.team
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 4 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      It's done for that reason.

                    2. The Hunt
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      He's probably playing a weekly game with his mates.

                      1. jdp219
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 4 Years
                        3 months, 25 days ago

                        Ahhh. Hadn't considered that. Highest score for the week kind of thing?

                      2. KAPTAIN KANE
                        • 4 Years
                        3 months, 25 days ago

                        Even then, do you really need to make that many changes...more often that not it’s the same group of players who are the main scorers

                  10. mabz1303
                    • 8 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Can El-Gazi continue his form?

                    Shall I sell Grealish to get El-Gazi?

                    Thanks

                    1. Lallana
                      • 7 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Too sideways. I'd bin Grealish for Barnes or...use that money elsewhere.

                  11. Lallana
                    • 7 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Best defender?

                    1) Holding (already got 3 DGW defenders)
                    2) Johnstone (Big Sam effect?)
                    3) Lowton (Double Burnley?)

                    1. Lallana
                      • 7 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Furlong over Johnstone*

                    2. Maeki2
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      2

                  12. CroatianHammer
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 5 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Going into GW17 with 9 players eligible for DGW19. FH the following GW, and then Wilson to Antonio (if he's fit) for GW19. That would be 10 total. As it stands, I'll take a hit to get a clean XI, and the click BB. Sorely tempted to give Antonio or Souček the armband.

                    1. Free Hat
                      • 2 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Deeney in a bottle. I like it 😀

                  13. OptimusBlack
                    • 7 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Mahrez > Maddison
                    Yaaay today
                    Nope wait after this GW end

                    1. JJeyy
                      • 5 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      why would you want maddison

                      1. OptimusBlack
                        • 7 Years
                        3 months, 25 days ago

                        Barnes better ?

                  14. HonestBlatter
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 10 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Any news about Pool or ManU games?

                    1. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 11 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Safe to say no given how quiet it is.

                  15. Babit1967
                    • 4 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Guys , 2 fts and I will wait until just before deadline just incase but if city / Chelsea is off then Mendy will go, who would u go for tho?

                    Already have KWP, Taylor, Dallas and really don’t fancy a double up

                    1. Babit1967
                      • 4 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      That’s Mendy the Chelsea goalie btw

                  16. Coys96
                    • 3 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Michael Hector, fulham defender, owns son 😉

                    1. Coys96
                      • 3 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Bobby Reid captained Kane 😀

                  17. Damsko
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 5 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    This is my team, 2 free transfers, 1,5 in the bank. I will free hit gw18 but who to burn these two transfers on. Does Grealish > Lookman and Che Adams > Vardy sound like a decent move?

                    Thinking of rolling a transfer, but not sure if I should play Taylor or Dallas over James?

                    McCarthy

                    Taylor Dallas Robertson

                    Salah Bruno Grealish KDB

                    Wood Bamford Che Adams

                    Steer: James Coufal Soucek

                    1. Damsko
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 5 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Ignore my comment about rolling a transfer, I need to burn two transfers.

                  18. Gabbiadini
                    • 3 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Hold or trade DCL?

                    1. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 11 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      See how tomorrow goes, at least he got his rest.

                      1. Gabbiadini
                        • 3 Years
                        3 months, 25 days ago

                        Yes, I wasn't trading DCL now... Just gaining interest.

                  19. bennydebull
                    • 8 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Quick question re the free hit chip: If I make two free transfers and then after this activate the free hit chip to change the rest of my team, will those 2 transfers remain in the next week when it resets?

                    1. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 11 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      no, old GW team returns.

                      1. bennydebull
                        • 8 Years
                        3 months, 25 days ago

                        okay ta

                  20. Bookkeeper
                    • 4 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Leyton Orient should feel aggrieved. They had to forfeit the tie against Spurs due to several players being struck by covid. Now the Carabao cup officials are saying, City won't need to forfeit their tie against UTD.

                    1. F_Ivanovic
                      • 5 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Big difference between a Semi-final tie and a 2nd? round one. The league cup fixtures were coming fast and there wasn't anywhere to reschedule given Spurs had EL commitments every week.

                  21. TorresMagic™
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 11 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    LMS EO's Stats for Everton/Man City/Zouma

                    DCL 43, KDB 32, Dias 24, Cancelo 21, Zouma 12, Stone 11

                    Top 5

                    Salah 174, Bruno 101, Bamford 93, Son 77, Kane 56

                  22. JJeyy
                    • 5 Years
                    3 months, 25 days ago

                    Big chance Son is rested for Leeds? He has played non-stop also in the europa, and league cup semi-final is 3 days later, which obviously is a big priority for Mourinho.

                    1. Dirty Harry
                      • 5 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Problem is Mourinho can't afford to bench him. When he's off Spurs suck more.

                    2. FDMS All Starz
                      • 5 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      Against Leeds he will be their main threat, without him there is no cutting edge to the counter attack

                    3. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 11 Years
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      More chance to rest vs Fulham if anything. Slower paced game compared to Leeds one so could just play all.

                      1. TorresMagic™
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 11 Years
                        3 months, 25 days ago

                        Plus Leeds should score.

                      2. JJeyy
                        • 5 Years
                        3 months, 25 days ago

                        Fulham is a much tougher game though, in terms of how easy they are to break down

                        1. TorresMagic™
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • Has Moderation Rights
                          • 11 Years
                          3 months, 25 days ago

                          He'll do twice the running vs Leeds.

                          1. Baps hunter
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 3 Years
                            3 months, 25 days ago

                            Yes, therefore rest (not starting) vs Fulham would make more sense. But it's Jose...

                    4. Steve The Spud
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 1 Year
                      3 months, 25 days ago

                      I think he plays, we simply cannot afford another bad result, he’ll lose favour with the fans fast as well because of his negative style