Pro Pundits - Simon

Double or triple-up? How much trust should FPL managers put in one club?

It could be argued that the question of whether it is better to centralise or decentralise control or resources has caused more conflict than any other throughout history as it does, after all, underpin almost all political debate.

At the core of these discussions exists the balancing of some very disparate beliefs, priorities and ideologies such as flexibility versus efficiency and individualism versus collectivism. Since, as we already know, Fantasy Premier League (FPL) is a powerful metaphor for life in general (or perhaps vice-versa), it is not, itself, absent of these tensions.

Within an FPL context, the clearest manifestation of this question is whether it is better to focus your squad selection on players from just a few teams or to spread that selection across many teams. This is the question that this article will seek to address.

The Case for Centralisation

Centralisation in an FPL context begins to occur when more than one player is selected from an individual Premier League team. Given that three players per team is the maximum in this respect, the highest level of centralisation would involve 15 players being selected from just 5 teams.

What are the advantages of this method?

First, by limiting your player selection to fewer teams, it reduces the number of teams you have to research. This permits you more time for analysis and, thus, an opportunity to gain a deeper understanding of individual teams. Typically in FPL, the more you understand a team, their line-ups, patterns of play, set-piece takers, general strengths and weaknesses, the better-informed your decisions relating to their players can be.

It also means you can assess their fixtures and overall team form more easily. As with engine mechanics, the fewer the moving parts in FPL planning, the greater the overall efficiency.

There is also a ‘multiplier effect’ associated with picking several players from an individual Premier League team. For example, if you owned three Manchester City defenders, one clean sheet could be worth at least 12 points whereas, if your defenders came from three different teams, you would need each of these teams to keep a clean sheet in order to score the same amount, an outcome that is objectively less likely to occur.

Equally, if an individual team is scoring a lot of goals, it may well pay to maximise your coverage of their attacking assets. Not only will this give you access to a potentially strong supply of attacking points, it will increase the likelihood that you own at least one of the players generating them.

A key problem with the centralised strategy, however, is that it reduces flexibility. If, for example, you had three Man City defenders and wanted to bring Raheem Sterling (£11.6m) in, achieving this would involve at least two transfers.

The spend balance throughout your team will also be dictated by the relative pricing of individual teams. Three Man City defenders would involve more money spent in defence than, say, three Burnley defenders. This will have a knock-on effect on spend elsewhere and potentially reduce options for alternatives should you want to swap one out.

The Case for Decentralisation

Decentralisation, in an FPL context, would mean spreading out your player selection across a wider range of Premier League teams, the maximum, of course, being 15.

One key aspect of the decentralised approach is that it is less likely to produce extreme outcomes. Similar to how, in probability equations, the introduction of more variables typically reduces the odds of a particular outcome, utilising players from a wider range of teams is both less likely to produce a huge score and less likely to produce an absolute stinker.

You can observe this effect in practice by checking out the highest points scorer on the Official FPL site at the end of each Gameweek. These teams will almost always lean more towards a centralised rather than decentralised composition, with more players selected from a fewer number of Premier League teams.

Decentralisation reduces the risk of a blow out because it spreads that risk across a wider range of teams. Using again the example of the three Man City defenders from above, one goal conceded would wipe out all three cleans sheets. With defenders from three different teams, three goals would need to be conceded for the same outcome to occur. From a purely quantitative perspective, three events of a particular type will almost always be less likely to occur than just one.

From an attacking perspective, a decentralised FPL squad can tap into attacking returns from a wide number of teams, reducing the impact that opposition or team form might have on your likelihood to score points.

If you only had one attacking player from a team, statistically-speaking your odds of owning the player who scores the points is low compared to if you owned three. You also cannot score multiple points from a single goal (i.e. if you own both the scorer and the assister of a goal), meaning that you will typically need more goals to be scored in general than a more centralised team.

This effect can, of course, be mitigated based on who you select. For example, if you own Bruno Fernandes (£11.5m) or Jack Grealish (£7.8m), there’s a good chance you will profit from a large proportion of Manchester United or Aston Villa goals, given their high levels of scoring involvement.

Finally, while a decentralised FPL squad featuring many individual Premier League teams will usually be more work to manage as it requires analysis of more sources of information (e.g. looking at team news for up to 15 teams instead of as few as 5), you are far more insulated against FPL’s more unexpected ‘black swan’ events. These can include the cancellation of a match or unexpected results (e.g. Liverpool losing successive home games to Burnley and Brighton) or the general dip in form from an individual team.

Conclusion

Ultimately, whether you choose a centralised or decentralised strategy is likely to depend on your approach to playing FPL in general. If you prefer more consistent scores (“dullard”), you are more likely to opt for a decentralised approach where the risk is spread more widely and, thus, somewhat mitigated. If you are willing to put up with the occasional blowout Gameweek in order to achieve some huge scores (“maverick”), you are more likely to lean towards a centralised approach which, due to its narrow focus, will produce more extreme results. Both, of course, still rely on the qualitative element of you picking the right individual players.

I’ve personally typically leaned towards the decentralised approach as my goal is generally to try and accumulate consistent scores over the course of a season (I also think it’s usually more fun to have players spread across different teams – particularly if you’re watching the matches) but I’d suggest that, if you are struggling towards the end of a season, adopting a more centralised strategy might be worthwhile as a final throw of the dice. At that point, extreme results may well be what you need and you don’t really have much to lose by trying it.

One final note; the tendency of a centralised approach to produce extreme results is also very often evident in daily fantasy sport games where the best scores almost always come from those managers who focus their selections on just a few teams and happen to nail it that Gameweek. I’d expect that their average scores are usually lower than a player who might adopt a more decentralised approach but, in that environment where it’s all about individual gameweek scores, that really doesn’t matter.

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471 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Deulofail
    • 5 Years
    2 months, 26 days ago

    I appreciate the article is not upholding the myth that decentralisation is inherently more valuable or less 'risky'.

    I would say that it actually seems to swing a bit the other way, despite the conclusion. It seems a bit dishonest to say that a ‘multiplier effect’ associated with tripling-up is more likely to give you 3 clean sheets than picking players from 3 different teams. What is the consequence of this? Because this doesn't actually mean you'll necessarily get more points on average, does it? So what is the argument here?

    1. Deulofail
      • 5 Years
      2 months, 26 days ago

      Honestly did not attempt a top-of-the-pager!

    2. Make Arrows Green Again
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 months, 26 days ago

      Have to agree with you there Chief.

    3. Harper
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 months, 26 days ago

      Like I said on the previous page, you get more variance with picking players from the same team. So you can have bad weeks in the weeks where those teams do poorly as well as potentially really good ones in others. As long as they are still good picks, the good & bad weeks should average each other out.

      1. Deulofail
        • 5 Years
        2 months, 26 days ago

        Yes I agree. That much was covered in the article too iirc

    4. Sgt Frank Drebin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 months, 26 days ago

      Maybe the idea was that if you triple up on City defenders (or any other great team defensively at the moment) you'll get more points on average than picking players from 3 different teams?

      1. Deulofail
        • 5 Years
        2 months, 26 days ago

        Well then that's not related to the question of whether tripling up is a good or bad thing. Rather, that Man City have the best defence. Should be in a different article 🙂

        1. Sgt Frank Drebin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Why not? I think the main idea is that tripling up on the best defense will get you more points on average than picking players from 3 different teams. If not, yeah I agree, triple up vs 3 different teams shouldn't make much difference

    5. gogs67
        2 months, 26 days ago

        Triple up on teams that are flying, that's about the best you can aim for. Who didn't benefit from the TAA/Robbo/Salah las t season lol
        Knowing when to cut your losses when the run ends is the difficult part and is what contributes to the rank fall if you miss it.

    6. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 3 Years
      2 months, 26 days ago

      a. Ketchup
      b. Mustard
      c. Mayo
      d. Something else

      Willing to take a hit

      1. King Kohli
        • 8 Years
        2 months, 26 days ago

        C

      2. TheBiffas
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Hit for HP brown surely worth it?

        • FPL Pillars
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          D. Baconaise

        • Dark Side Of The Loon!
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          B. Always B.

        • Davros
          • 11 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Depends who your captain would be

        • El Presidente
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Olive oil. Healthier and tastier

      3. Fit of Pique
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 months, 26 days ago

        What a great article. Well done Simon, fantastic read. Complex thinking communicated clearly and simply

      4. Make Arrows Green Again
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 26 days ago

        The only other argument against centralisation is one I've articulated recently... say you have Son and Kane and it's 0-0 at home against Fulham with 75 minutes gone, Spurs only need one goal. The one goal if it comes wins the game in nearly all cases, so it's likely the only 'available' goal in that game. Only one of your players can score it, so in a way you have two players competing for that goal.

        I know player 1 can assist player 2, and this happens a lot with Kane and Son, but overall if you have a decentralised team with lots of individual results being chased, there is a theoretically slightly higher number of 'available' goals than in centralised teams.

        1. Deulofail
          • 5 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Have to disaagree with you there Chief. 😆

          The likelihood of player A outscoring player B doesn't decrease if you already have a player from the same team as player A in your *fantasy* team.

          All your concern about available goals is pre-determined in the likelihood of your player scoring before you figure out how centralised your team is. You calculate that when you pick the players, not when you get to the 75 minute mark.

          1. Make Arrows Green Again
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Agree but see below, the 75 minute mark 0-0 scenario is one of several which will crop up over the course of the season. It does happen and in these situations there is, in the vast majority of cases, only one goal in that game at that point.

            My argument here is that there are a similar number of other scenarios which benefit or hinder both centralised and decentralised fantasy teams to the same extent, but this is a clear case of a possible (and not uncommon) scenario doubling the risk to centralised teams. I can't think of any which would work the other way but I would be very interested to know if you can think of any!

        2. Sgt Frank Drebin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          I'm sorry but the notion that there are some "available goals" in a game is quite a nonsense for me. Just look at the individuall underlying stats and you will be fine.

          1. Sgt Frank Drebin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Altough I also think that having players from many teams is slightly less risky than hving players from only few teams often at the cost of lower expected points average in case some teams have sudden dip in form.

            1. Deulofail
              • 5 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              What if they suddenly score lots of goals and concede few chances/goals? Presumably you would buy a player you were expecting to have the best chance of scoring points? If you choose a lesser player because you want diversity of teams in your team, then you are taking an unecessary risk that a player with less form (or in a team with less form), or is lless likely to score points, will suddenly hit better form than the player who is better?

          2. Make Arrows Green Again
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            What I'm saying is it doesn't matter how good the underlying stats have been up to that point. If the first goal is scored late enough in the game there is a high chance that team will do into defensive mode, dribble into the corner etc, and a low chance that attacking players will do anything useful with the ball after that point, with this offset slightly by the chance of a breakaway goal when the opposition has pushed everyone forward.

            I don't believe there is such a thing as available goal in reality, but it is clear that the theoretical number of further goals for an attacking team drops off massively the later the first goal is scored. This is what I mean. This makes that first goal critical and, yes, your players will be competing for it.

            Now this scenario only happens occasionally - often the game has been won or lost long before this point and/or your two players have already scored. But, it is a not uncommon scenario which has to be factored into our thinking, giving decentralisation a (albeit tiny) edge in this regard.

      5. ZeleniMD
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 months, 26 days ago

        How much time we have to wait until fixture ticker is updated on this site? It is the most used tool and probably requires a marginal amount of effort.

        I am for example a member, and gw 29 fixtures affect my transfer decision from this week. But i still have to scroll through all the articles from here and other websites.

        1. Black Knights
          • 9 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          No games in GW29 have been officially cancelled yet. What do you want them to do, guess? If you know games are about to be moved, you already know as much as you need to.

        2. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
          • 6 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Took a couple of days last time, but I don't think any of the postponements are official yet (they are still on FPL too)

        3. stu92
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Link to postponement announcement please?

            1. stu92
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              2 months, 26 days ago

              Ah, twitter. Nothing official though?

        4. Geoff
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 8 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Yeah I don't think anything is official yet. It's all still in FPL and nothing out of the PL about them being postponed or where they'll be placed.

          I don't make moves on the ticker until it's official because guesses can be wrong. Often in the past, in the last few postponements even, the best guesses people have had aren't exactly how things have landed.

          Unless I'm missing something and they've been announced! I'm going to check with the person who put out the tweet (which by all accounts sounds like it's going to be correct, but hasn't been announced) to see what the thinking was there.

      6. FPL ElasticO
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 months, 26 days ago

        Hey guys, Is it too risky to get rid of Salah on WC to afford Sterling?

        1. Snooze ya lose
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          His time is nigh!

        2. dan717
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Also on WC and I'm doing Salah - Sterling (C) but keeping enough funds to get Salah back for GW26 (assuming Liv have a double).

          1. stu92
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Is the loss of funds worth it for two gameweeks? Over that time period Salah could easily outscore Sterling.

            1. dan717
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              Salah dropping tonight looks likely so I'll only lose 0.2. Prefer Sterling (TOT, eve, ARS) to Salah (lei, EVE), especially as I won't captain Salah for either of those two fixtures.

        3. Pepeye
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          2 months, 26 days ago

          Hmm...Ederson was practising taking penalties at City's training Tuesday. I wonder?

      7. Snooze ya lose
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 months, 26 days ago

        Are ppl holding salah? I’ve kept him this long but he’s frustrating me now!

        1. TheBiffas
            2 months, 26 days ago

            holding

          • stu92
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            2 months, 26 days ago

            I'm holding until at least KDB is back, or until Jota gives a budget alternative.

          • Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Yes

        2. drughi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 months, 26 days ago

          pretty lost on what to do with my team so any advice would be greatly appreciated. 1 ft and 1.7 itb.

          Mccarthy
          Stones Cancelo Cresswell
          Salah Grealish Gundogan Bruno
          Antonio DCL Bamford

          johnstone son coufal ayling

          1. Snooze ya lose
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Wait for more injury news

          2. TheBiffas
              2 months, 26 days ago

              johnstone -> areola?

            • stu92
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              2 months, 26 days ago

              Hold. If no obvious moves to make, I think you should absolutely roll the FT as we get closer to DGW/BGW.

          3. JJeyy
            • 5 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Does no striker make Soucek less appealing option? Dont really know how west ham's system will work with no Haller or Antonio

            1. Flynny
              • 6 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              Antonio likely to play I think / hope

          4. stu92
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            2 months, 26 days ago

            I have Antonio and DCL up front, both currently flagged. Bench is currently Coufal, Bamford and Son. I'm good to hold, yeah?

            1. Dark Side Of The Loon!
              • 4 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              Exactly the same banch and flagged players in my team. I am holding.

              1. stu92
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 1 Year
                2 months, 26 days ago

                Cheers mate. Will probably make a decision on DCL closer to deadline depending on whether he is likely to play v Fulham, and then shuffle bench to suit.

                1. Big Mac 24
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Same here, if he's 50/50 for Fulham then he's starting or me, if he's out then i'll probably play Bamford instead as I see an absoluet maximum of 6 points v Citeh

              2. OptimusBlack
                • 8 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                Same here too

            2. Big Mac 24
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              For sure.

              With Dias potentially out or at least maybe not 100%, add to that the fact that Kane is back Son could be a great starter. Arsenal are a bit depleted too so Bamford could strike, 9 of his 12 gols have come away from home

          5. Hazardous1983
            • 10 Years
            2 months, 26 days ago

            Antonio dias pope and dcl flagged

            What to do.

            1. Rupert The Horse
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              The question of the day.

            2. stu92
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              2 months, 26 days ago

              What's up with Pope?

              1. Rupert The Horse
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                Injured

            3. Original Pirate Material
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 2 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              Cry

          6. Parsnips
              2 months, 26 days ago

              Calvert Lewin to have a scan later today. We should know the extent of the the injury afterwards

            • Magic Zico
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 2 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              De Gea
              STONES CANCELO LOWTON Creswell
              GUNDO Bruno Salah
              DCL* Antonio* Bamford

              Martinez Raphinha Son Coufal

              With DCL and Antonio uncertain, what would you prefer?
              A. GTG let Raphinha and Son substituted in
              B. DCL or Antonio > Cavani or Ings
              C. Both DCL and Antonio > Cavan and Ings in with hits

            • Pepeye
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              2 months, 26 days ago

              If he doesn't recover for Spurs, Dias will only miss one game

              1. Rupert The Horse
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                What makes you say that?

                1. Black Knights
                  • 9 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  He's had first hand experience of the runny poopies. Reckons it's only a couple of days til he's solid again.

                  1. Rupert The Horse
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 8 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    I used to be part of that crew.
                    Here’s the gw 29 postponements.

                    https://twitter.com/ffscout/status/1359637217447206912?s=21

            • estheblessed
              • 6 Years
              2 months, 26 days ago

              Whats the highest finish you've ever had in a season?

              For me; 4247

              1. FPL Pillars
                • 4 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                91

                1. estheblessed
                  • 6 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Wow

                  1. FPL Pillars
                    • 4 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    2018/19 Season! Finished on a high, best rank I’ve ever been and best finish haha

              2. Holmes
                • 7 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                11k, though I have been playing with restrictions till last year, so rank history is not something to be proud of 😀

                1. estheblessed
                  • 6 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  What do you mean restrictions?

                  1. Holmes
                    • 7 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    I used to pick only one player from one country

                    1. estheblessed
                      • 6 Years
                      2 months, 26 days ago

                      Thats madness!

                    2. The Ilfordian
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 3 Years
                      2 months, 26 days ago

                      That’s great. We had a work league where each player had countries / continents allocated. Surprisingly, Africa won.

              3. Rupert The Horse
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                Nothing special. 2.5k or something.

                1. estheblessed
                  • 6 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Thats decent tho

                  1. Rupert The Horse
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 8 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    I was around 350 that year but got bored.

              4. jomikijiq
                • 5 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                936 last year

                1. estheblessed
                  • 6 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Very good.

              5. King Kohli
                • 8 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                872

              6. Big Mac 24
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                37909 in my 7th year

              7. Black Knights
                • 9 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                605. I was 90th in March/April that season.

                Some poor guy at work finished about 5 points behind me! Imagine finishing in the top 1000 worldwide and not even winning your work mini-league with about 40 players.

                1. estheblessed
                  • 6 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Brilliant!

                2. Sam (Team Sam)
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Similar happened to me!

                  I used to beat one mate every year (we were always top two in our mini-league).

                  The one season he beats me is when I came 288, he finished 98th.

                  He quit playing after that and never let me forget that he beat my best ever

              8. Buck The Trent
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                412

              9. No Kane No Gain
                • 2 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                1030. I was in the top 245 lash season but had a bad final 2 weeks and slipped to 1030.

              10. Baines on Toast...
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                20th, though I don't mention it often and it's not listed in my profile.

                1. Im New Here
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Did you get the job?

                    1. Baines on Toast...
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 10 Years
                      2 months, 26 days ago

                      Yes!

                2. drughi
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  361

                3. Sam (Team Sam)
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  288

                4. Eh, just one more thing ...
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  2184 in 14/15 season.

                5. Eh, just one more thing ...
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  What’s your worst ever rank in a season ... for all those who’ve posted their best?

                  Worst ... 596,664 last season ...

                  1. Buck The Trent
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Worst 92K in 10 years playing

                  2. estheblessed
                    • 6 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Worst was 802419 last season. I missed a lot of transfer windows due to travelling and the Friday kicks off threw me. Plus just had a terrible season!

                6. bobbyg
                  • 9 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  46

              11. unitednations
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                For those planning to BB26, which cheap enablers are you looking at. The following come to mind

                Def: Mitchell, Lowton, Kwp (if they dbl)
                Mid: Barnes (but not really cheap), pereira? Barkley?
                Fwds: I think Kane, Dcl/Ings, Watkins/Bamford will be the template

              12. Inazuma X1
                • 3 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                oof DCL needs a scan, this doesn't look good for Dom owners!

                https://twitter.com/footballdaily/status/1359863237383254021

                1. estheblessed
                  • 6 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  yea he's gonna be out for sure now for the Fulham game.

                  1. Flynny
                    • 6 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Yup can't see him playing Fulham wjatever the scan shows....even if it is clear would expect he'd be left out as a precaution.

              13. jomikijiq
                • 5 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                How long are Koch and Llorente out for? (How long is Struijk nailed)

                1. Inazuma X1
                  • 3 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Llorente should be back soon

              14. Inazuma X1
                • 3 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                Anyone else here planning to win the FPL cup?

                1. Rupert The Horse
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  I’ll give it a go but I have Avery tough opponent. Shame about the injuries as I have 3 DGW players and he only had 1 so it was. Advantage me.

                2. SHOWSTOPPERRR
                  • 3 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Yes planning to win next year as I am already out f it..

              15. seewhyaxe
                • 4 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                with so many strikers out, 451 might be the trend for this gw

                1. Andy_Social
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  I was ready to go 5-4-1 for this GW. Now 2 of my defenders are out along with 2 strikers.

                2. Rupert The Horse
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Happy with 4-4-2

              16. Von Lipwig
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 2 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                Best striker option for GW24 only? (not Ings or Bam)

                Richarlison?

                1. Holmes
                  • 7 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Lacazette

                2. jomikijiq
                  • 5 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Jesus

                  Rich or A. Barnes if 3 City

                3. Boom XhakaLacaSaka
                  • 1 Year
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Cavani

              17. King Kohli
                • 8 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                Best striker(not Kane or Bamford) to own till gw 25?

                1. Rupert The Horse
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Bamford

                2. Black Knights
                  • 9 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Cavani maybe?

                3. jomikijiq
                  • 5 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Ings

              18. davies
                • 6 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                Wildcarding next week...

                Yes or no?

                DCL + Rudiger > Richarlison + Lowton for free

                Martinez
                Dias Stones Lowton
                Salah Sterling (c) Bruno Son Grealish
                Richarlison Antonio

                Cheers.

                1. Holmes
                  • 7 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Yes. Not much between Rudiger and Lowton this week

                  1. davies
                    • 6 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Could go Wood and do Dunne > Mee instead

                2. Boom XhakaLacaSaka
                  • 1 Year
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Id keep hold of Rudiger

              19. Baines on Toast...
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                Twitter rumours (via LTFPL) suggeting Antonio fit...

                1. Rupert The Horse
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Good. Loads of time to be ready.

                2. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 3 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Phew!! That one!! Three more left haha, DCL, Dias and Digne!!! Triple D’s!!!

                3. estheblessed
                  • 6 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Yea I can see him playing tbh

              20. Gudjohnsen
                • 4 Years
                2 months, 26 days ago

                So is this gtg or?

                Pope
                Mee, Cancelo, Stones, Coufal
                Salah, Bruno (VC), Sterling (C), Saka
                Bamford, Antonio

                Subs: Martinez, Soucek, Digne, DCL

                1. Rupert The Horse
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  Why not play DCL for now?

                  1. Gudjohnsen
                    • 4 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Afraid he misses Fulham game and then gets 2 points against City.

              21. Finding Timo
                  2 months, 26 days ago

                  If DCL out who is the best replacement Please (already have Antonio & bam) a) Richarlison or king? B) martial or cavani c) ings given DGW25? D) Werner E) Watkins f) someone else?

                  1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 3 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    I’m thinking Ings mate!! Cavani also in the conversation!!

                    1. Finding Timo
                        2 months, 26 days ago

                        Cheers yeh agree they seem best replacements

                  2. Wılly
                    • 7 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    Which one to play?

                    A. Dallas (ars)
                    B. Adams (WOL)

                  3. drughi
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    2 months, 26 days ago

                    DCL > Ings on the cards

                    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                      • 9 Years
                      2 months, 26 days ago

                      Any idea when the Everton press conference is?

                    2. Finding Timo
                        2 months, 26 days ago

                        I agree although getting this week v Chelsea puts me off a little as ideally prefer to wait til next week to get

                        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                          • 9 Years
                          2 months, 26 days ago

                          Ings is playing Wolves?

                          1. Finding Timo
                              2 months, 26 days ago

                              Sorry my mistake yes of course it’s Wolves this week then Chelsea next week so I actually think I may go ings this week then

                              1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                                • 9 Years
                                2 months, 26 days ago

                                Yep considering the same, just waiting on news of Antonio and DCL..

                                I have a good bench though so might just wait.. not sure yet

                      • Threat Level Midnight
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 2 Years
                        2 months, 26 days ago

                        Alright lets start a thread--who are we genuinely worried about being out?

                        1. Parsnips
                            2 months, 26 days ago

                            Dcl Dias

                            1. Threat Level Midnight
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 2 Years
                              2 months, 26 days ago

                              Dias will be fine for at minimum 1 match IMO

                          • PogBruno
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 3 Years
                            2 months, 26 days ago

                            Wood

                        2. JP\'s
                            2 months, 26 days ago

                            Would you BB this team this week?

                            Pope, McCarthy
                            Dias, Dawson, Coufal, Lowton, Stones
                            Salah, Bruno, Grealish, Son, Gundo
                            DCL, Bamford, Decordova-Reid

                            1. Wılly
                              • 7 Years
                              2 months, 26 days ago

                              No, based on injuries

                              1. Wılly
                                • 7 Years
                                2 months, 26 days ago

                                But looks good for a BB