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Scoutcast Episode 367 – Double Gameweek attention turns to Leeds and Saints

Joe and Seb are joined by David to look at the key issues facing Fantasy Premier League managers ahead of Double Gameweek 25.

As part of a flurry of Double Gameweeks, Leeds and Southampton take their turn to play twice in the upcoming set of fixtures.

As well as playing each other, the Yorkshire outfit take on Wolverhampton Wanderers, while the south coast side face Chelsea’s resolute defence.

With the more favourable of the fixtures, Leeds assets take top billing. As a fan of the club, Seb takes our trio on a deep dive into Marcelo Bielsa’s tactics, favoured line-up and team strengths, ahead of these important Gameweek 25 matches for Fantasy Premier League managers. This discussion includes David’s analysis on why one particular Leeds player is so key to their chances of goals and clean sheets.

Danny Ings (£8.4m) looks to be the main target for the Scoutcast crew among Saints options, especially with his lethal finishing. He could also be a shrewd long-term investment should his side gain further double Gameweeks over the next month.

Elsewhere, Joe wonders which well-owned players could be surplus to requirements in the clamour for Double Gameweek stars. Could Liverpool and Manchester United’s penalty takers be jettisoned? Or is a certain Aston Villa talisman the man to make way?

Our trio give an update on their mixed fortunes in Double Gameweek 24 so far and reveal their transfer and captaincy plans for the week ahead.

Meanwhile, next four fixtures are frisked as the short-term gain of Double Gameweeks is assessed alongside the longer-term points potential of planning ahead, for the single and Blank Gameweeks to come.

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  1. Ginkapo FPL
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    1 month, 26 days ago

    Barnet 2-1 Halifax

    1. FFS Ultras are for Kinnear
      • 7 Years
      1 month, 26 days ago

      Kick off at 10am?

  2. George Agdgdgwngo
    • 11 Years
    1 month, 26 days ago

    Is burn a viable option for Brighton?

    4.2m for a sub defender would be very handy.

    1. Silecro
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 26 days ago

      I've read somewhere that he should be nailed as long as March is injured, which is until May, but im not still completely sure whether to bring him or not

    2. Pukki Blinders
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 26 days ago

      Security of starts could be an issue, find the extra 0.2 for Webster or White

      1. George Agdgdgwngo
        • 11 Years
        1 month, 26 days ago

        If he’s covering March then not really much point in finding the extra

        1. Pukki Blinders
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 26 days ago

          They recalled a LB from loan a couple weeks ago...

        2. jomikijiq
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 26 days ago

          Alzate and Karbownik can both play there

  3. Ronnies
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 month, 26 days ago

    Worth losing any of these for Raphinha ?

    Don't have wildcard.

    Salah, Bruno, Son, Grealish, Gundogan

    Cheers.

    1. Pukki Blinders
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 26 days ago

      Have the same midfield, answer is no for me

      1. camarozz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 26 days ago

        Those with Soucek in mid probably on best position to get rid of the troll

    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 26 days ago

      Grealish

    3. George Agdgdgwngo
      • 11 Years
      1 month, 26 days ago

      Grealish

    4. OleGGMU
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 26 days ago

      If yoy have 2fts or willing to take a hit then perhaps, son to raphinha and use the cash to upgrade fwd to Kane.
      Personally did this and switched antonio+son for Kane+Raphinha

      1. RamboRN
        • 9 Years
        1 month, 26 days ago

        This is exactly what I did. Seems a good option.

      2. Pukki Blinders
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 26 days ago

        Son to Kane very sideways is it not?

        1. Black Knights
          • 9 Years
          1 month, 26 days ago

          Sideways is better than backwards if it means getting in a DGWer too and Raph is an improvement on the forward he'll be losing.

    5. RamboRN
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 26 days ago

      I had same dilemma and went for son. Mainly because I would be able to buy him back for 0.1 less if I wanted him back. I wouldn't be able to buy grealish back if I went for him.

    6. Sif
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 26 days ago

      Exact same position.
      Waiting on Gundo news.
      I'd consider Grealish but want him for 29 and currently don't have 0.2 spare to buy him back.

      1. Sif
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        1 month, 26 days ago

        *26 & 29

    7. Tonyawesome69 FHXX
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 26 days ago

      I would lose Grealish. Villa attack hasn't been great recently and looks like they are grinding out results.

  4. Stewarts11
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    1 month, 26 days ago

    whos everyone bringing in instead of Justin? Have no idea who to choose

    1. marcos11
        1 month, 26 days ago

        Targett or Shaw maybe?

      • Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        1 month, 26 days ago

        Few decent options depending on team and chip plan etc. Targett, Shaw, Soyuncu, Dallas, Brighton defenders

        1. Stewarts11
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          1 month, 26 days ago

          Planning on Free hit in DGW26, WC GW30 so between Soyunco/ Constagne or a brighton defender for me. taking the brighton player ill have games against palace, lei, sou, new (get the extra GW29 game) or lei with villa, brighton, sheffield... Decisions decisions

          1. Pat Bonner
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            1 month, 26 days ago

            I'd go Brighton if using that chip strategy

      • Bavarian
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 26 days ago

        Brighton defender

    2. camarozz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 26 days ago

      Anyone else preparing to use WC this wk but not preparing to use WC this wk coz we DON'T KNOW THE DAMN FIXTURES YET!!!!

      Time is running out

      1. Pukki Blinders
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 26 days ago

        You do know, Ben Crellin knows

        1. camarozz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          1 month, 26 days ago

          I looked at spreadsheet last nite and my head hurt

      2. Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        1 month, 26 days ago

        I've already hit the button and sweating now!

      3. George Agdgdgwngo
        • 11 Years
        1 month, 26 days ago

        I’ve played it and taken the risk best on Ben’s info. Those saints pictures ain’t disappearing

    3. Pukki Blinders
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 26 days ago

      Best move this week?

      A. Antonio —> Watkins (double up with Grealish)
      B. Coufal —> Brighton defender

      1. Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        1 month, 26 days ago

        Feels like dull moves given the dgw….depends on the chip plan as well?

        1. Pukki Blinders
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 26 days ago

          WC after 29 for me... looking to set up gw29 team early

          1. Pat Bonner
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            1 month, 26 days ago

            Maybe B then but depends on Antonio injury news

        2. George Agdgdgwngo
          • 11 Years
          1 month, 26 days ago

          What’s your wc team looking like pat?

          1. Pat Bonner
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            1 month, 26 days ago

            Martinez McCarthy
            Targett Stones Cancelo Shaw Dallas
            Salah Son Bruno Raphinha Gundogan
            Ings Bamford Watkins

            This is what I have at minute but could/will change. For BB 26, I've got around 2.8m in the bank and I like the flexibility it gives me, could do Ings to Kane and one of the Leeds guys out for -4. Or keep Ings and do Raph to Harvey Barnes or Bamford to DCL and upgrade Dallas....gives me a few options

    4. Openboxman
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 26 days ago

      Anyone seen any wildcards that don't involve a BB in 26.

      I'm stumped as to when to hit it

      1. Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        1 month, 26 days ago

        It would be much easier to get a good WC without BB!

        1. George Agdgdgwngo
          • 11 Years
          1 month, 26 days ago

          That’s why I played my bb in gw19. Wanted it out the way, I’m now I’m only just getting round to getting Johnstone out of my team lol

        2. HMC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 25 days ago

          agree here. I wasted my BB in 19 and would like to have it still but would plan to use it before gw30/31 wildcard

      2. Pukki Blinders
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 26 days ago

        Setting up for disaster imo. Being stuck with loads of funds on the bench without an escape plan could cause trouble

    5. Breezyy
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 26 days ago

      WC thoughts? BB in 26.

      Martinez Areola
      Elmo Burn Rudiger Vestergard Stones
      KDB Gundo Salah Bruno Barnes
      Maja Bamford/Watkins Kane

      1. Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        1 month, 26 days ago

        Fulham might not have a double? I really hope they do as Areola would be a great pick but looking unlikely. Defence is a bit light, I'd want Raphinha and Bamford in there as well and maybe Ings

        1. pablo discobar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          1 month, 26 days ago

          How long is cash out for?

      2. Pukki Blinders
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 26 days ago

        Elmo will be lucky to play 1 game

      3. DA Minnion (In Bielsa we tr…
        • 8 Years
        1 month, 26 days ago

        Sanchez in goals is better.

        1. Pat Bonner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          1 month, 26 days ago

          He'll be playing Martinez each week so his keeper choice should be to maximise BB in 26

    6. cm790
        1 month, 26 days ago

        Take a punt on Maja?

        SHU AND CRY next

        1. Old Gregg
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          1 month, 26 days ago

          Tempting isn't it.
          Tonight will be a good opportunity to scout.

        2. Pukki Blinders
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 26 days ago

          Doesn’t seem secure for starts

        3. Tonyawesome69 FHXX
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 26 days ago

          Not worth a place in my forwards yet. Need to more starts before I start to consider him

        4. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          1 month, 26 days ago

          It's a risky pick given these comments:

          https://twitter.com/peterrutzler/status/1361806058793099267?s=19

      • Ohh1454
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 26 days ago

        Which is better ? Leaning towards A cause both will always play.
        A. Ederson and Konsa
        B. Martinez and Dias

        1. Tonyawesome69 FHXX
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 26 days ago

          Prefer the higher ceiling of Martinez with CS, save points and BPS unless Ederson gets pens!

          1. pablo discobar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            1 month, 26 days ago

            A is cheaper by .4 isn't it?

            1. FourLokoLeipzig
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              If that’s the case, then how about Targett? That would definitely give A the edge imo

        2. Pukki Blinders
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 26 days ago

          B

          Konsa isn’t anymore secure than Dias.

          1. pablo discobar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            1 month, 26 days ago

            Konsa has missed 2 games all season. Injury. Do you just write negative comments?

            1. Pukki Blinders
              • 1 Year
              1 month, 26 days ago

              Lol hows that negative? His comment is implying that Dias isn’t secure which isn’t true, he hasn’t missed a game all season

      • Bury94
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 26 days ago

        Think I've stumbled across my WC team, any opinions appreciated!

        Martinez, Areola
        Pereira, Targett, Dallas, Cancelo, Stones
        Salah, Fernandes, Raphina, Barnes, Gundogan
        Bamford, Kane, Ings

        BB in GW26. Plan on removing Dallas & Raphina for a -4. Thanks

        1. Tonyawesome69 FHXX
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 26 days ago

          Looks good if Ben Crellin permutations in his spreadsheet is confirmed

        2. Pat Bonner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          1 month, 26 days ago

          Looks great, similar to what I'm looking at. Watch though with Fulham as they are unlikely to have a double, Areola looks a great pick if they did

          1. Bury94
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            1 month, 26 days ago

            Ah fair enough, will keep an eye out on Areola, thanks

        3. moz_1983
          • 8 Years
          1 month, 26 days ago

          Very nice. Solid all round.

        4. Bury94
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          1 month, 26 days ago

          Cheers lads

        5. Tomsk
            1 month, 26 days ago

            Pretty sure Cancelo and Stones won't play 60 mins twice in GW26. Any chance getting Ederson instead of Stones?

            1. Gomolon
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              Dias not in consideration of you're concerned about minutes?

          • Pukki Blinders
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 26 days ago

            Maybe find the extra funds for Dias over Stones? Laporte finding his feet again could be a worry

            1. Bury94
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              Yeah I'd rather have Dias of course but I don't see where I can get the extra 1m from

          • DA Minnion (In Bielsa we tr…
            • 8 Years
            1 month, 26 days ago

            Sanchez for second keeper.

            1. Bury94
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              Brighton don't double though, and I'm using BB in GW26

        6. Tonyawesome69 FHXX
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 26 days ago

          Thoughts on these moves. Budget is tight and leaves me with 0.1 leeway for these moves.

          GW25 - Holding and Antonio to Struijk and Kane
          GW26 - Soucek to Barnes

          Plan to TC26, WC30/31, FH33

          2FT 5.7itb
          Pope
          Cancelo Stones Digne
          Salah Bruno Gundo Raphinha
          Bamford Antonio DCL
          (Martinez Soucek Cresswell Holding)

          1. marcos11
              1 month, 26 days ago

              Looks good to me

          2. Gudjohnsen
            • 4 Years
            1 month, 26 days ago

            Captain

            A. Ings
            B. Bamford
            C. Raphinha
            D. Salah
            E. Bruno
            F. Sterling

            1. Tonyawesome69 FHXX
              • 2 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              Bamford

            2. Original Pirate Material
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 2 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              B

            3. antis0cial
              • 4 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              B

            4. marcos11
                1 month, 26 days ago

                B

            5. moz_1983
              • 8 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              Is there going to be another big DGW before the end of the season? I'm looking to BB in 26 but have to either use my WC (always handy to keep in case of emergencies) or take mega hits to make it worthwhile.

              1. Original Pirate Material
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 2 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                No, i think just smaller one dotted around. As always, Ben Crellin on twitter is your man.

              2. Tonyawesome69 FHXX
                • 2 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                No, 26 will be the last 'big' DGW this season unless we get more postponements due to COVID

              3. moz_1983
                • 8 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                I suspected as much, WC it is then. Cheers all, appreciated.

            6. Original Pirate Material
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 2 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              If you have WC and FH in hand, what week are you looking to play your WC?

              Is want to focus my starting 11, had a lot of value on the bench since my BB19.

              1. Tonyawesome69 FHXX
                • 2 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                It is team dependent. My plan is to WC30/31 and FH30.

                1. Tonyawesome69 FHXX
                  • 2 Years
                  1 month, 26 days ago

                  FH33*

                  1. Original Pirate Material
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 2 Years
                    1 month, 26 days ago

                    Thanks mate, can I ask why 33? A lot of people talking up free hitting then?

              2. Ain't No Holebas Girl
                • 3 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                I'm getting it out of the way now, team was in decent shape but had 2/3 flags so can't see a better time to plan a BB than 26. I know there's an argument that it hurts your first XI but the chance to see that dark green bench with DGW for all my subs is what I live for! Will move money off the bench towards 29 and then decide if it's worth the FH once fixtures are confirmed.

                That's the theory anyway, in practice I'm sure there will be plenty of fires to put out! But hopefully a strong bench can cover as I do it anyway.

            7. wulfrunian
              • 4 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              Do you think it's worth to do Barnes->Raphinha for a hit?

              1. Steve The Spud
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 26 days ago

                No, villa is a great fixture I think

              2. Tonyawesome69 FHXX
                • 2 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                No, Villa will have double in 26 and game in 29

                1. Tonyawesome69 FHXX
                  • 2 Years
                  1 month, 26 days ago

                  Ignore that. LEI have most likely have a double in 26 and have good fixtures from 26 onwards

              3. wulfrunian
                • 4 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                cheers

              4. Jellyfish
                • 9 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                I wouldn't

              5. Effe
                • 10 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                Yes I think that is worth it

            8. aapoman
              • 7 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              If on a WC would you bring in KDB? Really tempted by him. Also Salah or Kane?

              1. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
                • 6 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                I'd have Salah and Kane, and wait on KDB.

              2. Steve The Spud
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 26 days ago

                I’d want to see him fit and playing first

              3. Tonyawesome69 FHXX
                • 2 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                No. I would go with Sterling and have him as a placeholder for KDB once he gets some mins under his belt and hits a bit of form. I would have Salah and Kane on WC

              4. jomikijiq
                • 5 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                Yes or leave a City slot open

                Kane

              5. antis0cial
                • 4 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                I'd use Sterling as a placeholder if you want KDB - wait till he's starting games

            9. Inazuma X1
              • 3 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              29 May 2021 is the release date of the documentary on SAF 'Never Give In' on Amazon Prime

              1. Pukki Blinders
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 26 days ago

                Wrong site

            10. tibollom
              • 4 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              CTaylor + DCL to Struik + Ings with my 2 FT or just do one of them and roll FT for next week?

              LLoris Button
              awb dias cancello mee Ctaylor
              son bruno salah raphina gundo
              bam dcl watkins

            11. tomasjj
              • 6 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              How can I search and find another players team, to see where he is in the standings?

              1. Rupert The Horse
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                Do you know his team ID?

              2. Pukki Party
                • 3 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                Try google. "Teemu Pukki FPL team"

              3. tomasjj
                • 6 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                No, only his name.

              4. tomasjj
                • 6 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                Found him, via via.

            12. Gazwaz80
              • 1 Year
              1 month, 26 days ago

              Percentage wise, how accurate do you think Bens spreadsheet is?
              Cheers.

              1. Gomolon
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                Ben says on the spreadsheet the likelihood of each blank/double fixture occuring (on the left of the spreadsheet)

                1. Gazwaz80
                  • 1 Year
                  1 month, 26 days ago

                  That spreadsheet is a work of Art 🙂

              2. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
                • 6 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                They are just his predictions. He, or none of us, have any say in what will happen, nor have we any precedent in a season like this where the "rulebook" has been largely thrown out of the window in terms of fixtures.

              3. FPL Pillars
                • 4 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                Educated guess work. Fingers crossed it’s mostly right for 26!

                1. Gazwaz80
                  • 1 Year
                  1 month, 26 days ago

                  Strangely enough, this is the best season I’ve had up to now albeit, it’s only my 3rd 🙂

            13. antis0cial
              • 4 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              A) Holding to Dallas
              B) Grealish Antonio to Raphinha Ings (-4)

              Meslier
              Lowton Dias Digne
              Salah Sterling Bruno Gundo Grealish
              Bamford DCL

              Areola Antonio Coufal Holding

            14. internal error
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              Strujik over Dallas? Or is that too risky this week?

              1. Pukki Blinders
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 26 days ago

                Struijk is only a short term punt until Llorente comes back in the coming weeks

                1. internal error
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  1 month, 26 days ago

                  yea, but I'm wondering if he is worth getting for the next 2 gameweeks as a short term transfer

                2. Pompel
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 7 Years
                  1 month, 26 days ago

                  Struijk can stay on bench as 5th defender for remainder of season

                  1. Pukki Blinders
                    • 1 Year
                    1 month, 26 days ago

                    Yep if BB is out of the way already

              2. Tonyawesome69 FHXX
                • 2 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                I'm looking to transfer in Struijk over Dallas. He should play in both games in 25. He allows me to use my funds elsewhere and downgrade my bench after 25 since I have already used BB.

            15. Manumana
              • 5 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              Would swap / bench any of these to fit in Raphinia
              Currently on this

              Salah Bruno Rashford Gundogan
              Adam Bamford Cavani

              Benching Soucek

              Thanks a lot

              1. Manumana
                • 5 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                I know it's a boring question like 🙂

                1. Benteke Fried Chicken
                  • 2 Years
                  1 month, 25 days ago

                  It’s not boring it’s just very hard lol

                2. Benteke Fried Chicken
                  • 2 Years
                  1 month, 25 days ago

                  You could sell soucek and play it clever by benching whoever plays the most on Thursday night Europa between rash and Cavani. I think rash played 120 mins last week, then again at weekend so he MIGHT have managed minutes.

                  1. Manumana
                    • 5 Years
                    1 month, 25 days ago

                    Thanks

            16. The Train Driver
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              Does FH work as WC, can I do plenty of changes for hits now then FH later to reset those hits I took before gw starts?

              1. Hazz
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                Yes, but your team will revert to what it was at the start of the GW, not to what the transfers were up to the point you hit the FH button.

                1. The Train Driver
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  1 month, 26 days ago

                  Yeah, sounds right. Cheers!

            17. jimmyharte
              • 3 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              Sell two - Grealish, Salah, Fernandes, Maddison or Gundogan

              Was thinking of bringing in for Jamie Vardy!
              Maybe alongside Diagne.

              Chasing in league by 50 points, Thoughts?

              Cheers!

              1. jimmyharte
                • 3 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                Also Ings

              2. tomasjj
                • 6 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                If it weren't for favourable fixtures, I'd shift Grealish.
                Salah gets to stay past the good fixtures the next two-three weeks, then reevaluation.

                Also want Vardy and Kane, just trying to figure out who to get first. Thoughts on that?

                1. tomasjj
                  • 6 Years
                  1 month, 26 days ago

                  Since you have Maddison already, you could consider moving him to get Vardy.

                  1. Crunchie
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 2 Years
                    1 month, 25 days ago

                    Fernandes has the harder fixtures than Salah

                2. jimmyharte
                  • 3 Years
                  1 month, 25 days ago

                  Yeah was thinking maddison out and maybe Ings first as he has a dgw first off but then he would have a single following. Hmm hard to decide.

            18. Nightcrawler
              • 1 Year
              1 month, 26 days ago

              Lile the look of this team on WC

              Bb26 (also have FH for 29)

              Martinez McCarthy

              Dallas AWB Stones Cancelo Lowton

              Rafinha Salah Bruno Gundogan Maddison

              Kane Ings Bamford

              IS THIS GOOD ENOUGH? YOU DECIDE!

            19. poidlolo
              • 8 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              Pick 3 will.explode gw25 other than player havr dgw
              A) Fernandez
              B) Gundogan
              C) Sterling
              D) Kane
              E) Salah
              F) Vardy

            20. Original - Wolves Ay We
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              If a news page had 2 links, one saying a asteroid is about to hit the earth and the second saying the fixtures for the double game week released. I know which people on here would click first. 😀

              1. tomasjj
                • 6 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                The asteroid would hit earth regardless, but you might want to check the point of impact?

                1. tomasjj
                  • 6 Years
                  1 month, 26 days ago

                  Imagine, it could be Goodison Park, and lead to a postponed game.

              2. HMC
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                If asteroid was about to hit, would you quickly activate second wildcard?

                1. Original - Wolves Ay We
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  1 month, 26 days ago

                  Good point. 😀

            21. Targeting doublers with captaincy?
              HMC
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              1 month, 26 days ago

              The psychology of captain choice in dgw is interesting.

              Fernandes is always a popular option each and every week whilst Gundogan formed a huge bandwagon in recent weeks and was a popular choice in gw24.

              In hindsight it’s easy to say Gund was the best option with two games.
              I wonder how many would have chosen him if you knew he would only play the one game?

              This leads into gw25 thinking...

              Much easier to say a City player is a viable captain option but would you choose the likes of Ings or Bamford because they have 2 games or because you rate the fixtures? Fernandes still screams points vs hapless Newcastle.

              Who you choosing and why?

              Also for those who haven’t heard the stat: Bruno has now played a full seasons worth of games (38) with 41 goal involvements and has averaged ~7.5 points per game in that time

              1. tomasjj
                • 6 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                Bamford - more points likely in 2x90 min.

                Also 4 extra points very likely for just playing.

                1. MMN
                  • 7 Years
                  1 month, 25 days ago

                  2 extra points, everyone else plays once too.

                  1. Ruud000
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 4 Years
                    1 month, 25 days ago

                    4 if you captain him

                  2. MMN
                    • 7 Years
                    1 month, 25 days ago

                    *facepalm*

              2. Sif
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                Burno with 8 double figure hauls
                Bamford only 3 but he can make a double figure score with two fixtures combines.

                It's a puzzle!

                1. HMC
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  1 month, 26 days ago

                  Scenes when Leeds vs Saints ends 0-0 haha

                2. Ginkapo FPL
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  1 month, 25 days ago

                  3 x2 is 6, less than 8

                  1. claretparrot
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 2 Years
                    1 month, 25 days ago

                    9 + 1 = 10

              3. Hazz
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                RE: Picking a City player for captaincy in a DGW... Doesn't matter who they are, they're is always a substantial chance they miss out one match due to Pep.

                Gundogan had better chances to at least start both, but honestly whilst that did factor into my decision a little, I would have captained Gundogan anyway. Form player in best team and both EVE/TOT looked horrible.

                Don't get why everyone is getting hung up on hindsight. He had the best stats going into the GW too. I didn't want to captain Fernandes but was wary of the potential haul, so I personally brought in Cavani hoping to cover some points. Didn't really work out for Cavani - but overall, it did.

                Having said that, I prefer to captain a player with two (decent) games, over a SGW player. Bruno could haul, but equally could blank. 180 mins gives you more chances than 90 mins & 2 games also gives you a higher floor.

                1. tomasjj
                  • 6 Years
                  1 month, 26 days ago

                  Last sentence nail it for me.

                2. HMC
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  1 month, 26 days ago

                  Fair enough Hazz, it’s more fun to captain a dgw player
                  I’d say double the frustration if they blank in both!

                  Agree on Gundogan, he is/was THE form player so rightfully was captained. Just saying it’s easier to pick a city player in form to captain (I went Sterling) especially with the likes of Aguero and Kdb out injured vs other players such as Ings Bamford who are far less reliable and play for teams that could blank twice

              4. Baines on Toast...
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                Historically most big DGW scores are heavily built on one explosion.

                It's not so much about getting points evenly over two games - it's about increasing your probability of hitting a massive score.

                With that in mind, while Bruno has a fair shot at double figures against Newcastle, Bamford has shown explosive potential this season as well, and with two bites at the cherry he's clearly a better option.

              5. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                Historically most big DGW scores are heavily built on a spread of several players rather than one big explosion

                It's not so much about increasing your probability of hitting a massive score - its about catching the spread of points evenly over two games.

                With that in mind, while Bamford has shown explosive potential this season as well, Bruno has a fair shot at double figures against Newcastle, and with two bites at the cherry he's clearly a better option.

                1. Deulofail
                  • 5 Years
                  1 month, 25 days ago

                  Bruno has a two bites of the Cherry against Newcastle?

                  "It's not so much about increasing your probability of hitting a massive score - its about catching the spread of points evenly over two games."

                  I really don't see why an angle on this is necessary. It's not about one thing or the other. It's about both. Increasing your proabability of getting points, and then getting points as a result, regardless of the distribution across your team. I think this kind of narrative-making is just adding to the noise when people are trying to remember that they are just trying to get points.

                  1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    1 month, 25 days ago

                    yes

                  2. Baines on Toast...
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 10 Years
                    1 month, 25 days ago

                    It’s not narrative making, it’s a question of probability

                    1. Deulofail
                      • 5 Years
                      1 month, 25 days ago

                      Hypothetical points projections:

                      Player A: 10
                      Player B: 3
                      Player C: 4
                      Player D: 5

                      Don't avoid player A because you want to spread your points...

                      1. Deulofail
                        • 5 Years
                        1 month, 25 days ago

                        Oof I didn't see that Maximus' reply was a retort to yours, Baines on Toast. Now there are more layers to this. I don't think the retort was particularly elucidating, but I can see now why you thought my reply was a rebuttal of your comment.

                        Ironically, I was the person who upvoted your comment, originally! Haha

                        I liked what you had to say about increasing the probaility of getting a big score, but I overlooked the fact that you meant one big score. Also, I agree that Bamford is a better option given his two hites. But yeah, I suppose my comment is a retort to yours then. I don't think many people are trying to evenly spread their scores across fixtures.

                        1. Baines on Toast...
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 10 Years
                          1 month, 25 days ago

                          Ha yes I was a bit confused when reading. I didn't see it as a rebuttal but more as a point against Maximus which also applied to my post

                          (Was prompted to check back here an hour later by your suggestion for forum improvements)

                          1. Deulofail
                            • 5 Years
                            1 month, 25 days ago

                            Haha this thread was the final thread that cause me to start that thread! I flagged this as a potential HT just to help me navigate back to it haha

              6. Deulofail
                • 5 Years
                1 month, 26 days ago

                Ings/Bamford should get 4 points plus 2 games to try and score goals in.
                Fenandes gets 2 points plus 1 game to try and score goals in.

                Ings 4.9 PPM * 2 = 9.8
                Bamford 5.7 * 2 = 11.4
                Bruno 7.4 PPM * 1 = 7.4

                Bruno also has a midweek game, so he has no advantage there.

                Of course, this is simplistic, but it's fairly obvious to me why people favour DGW options. You just have to make sure they are generally good options, likely to outscore non-DGW options. If they end up blanking, it doesn't tell us anything significant about the decision we made.

                I included Ings because he's my captain. Anyone who replies to this comment with an argument about ceilings needs to have a think. 😉

                1. Donblaster
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 7 Years
                  1 month, 25 days ago

                  This 100%!!

                  Was just about to post a similar calculation based on points per 90 mins. Why would you captain a player expected to get 7.4pts over a player expected to get 11.4pts? I just don't get it.

              7. The Rumour Mill
                • 4 Years
                1 month, 25 days ago

                Has to be Bamford or Raphina. I will never captain a single gameweeker over a double gameweeker, the basic maths of it just favour the doubler every time.

                Fernandes screamed points against WBA too and in the end he was somewhat fortunate to get anything at all. Bamford and Raphina are in good form themselves, 2 good fixtures, attacking side, whats not to like? Absolute no brainer imo.

                1. Ginkapo FPL
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  1 month, 25 days ago

                  Even if its West Brom with the double?

                2. HMC
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  1 month, 25 days ago

                  These are averages of past games and doesn’t take into account current form and opponents

                  I just don’t think it’s as simple as the numbers, albeit I can see why you and many use this as the basis for doing it.
                  Look at how many captained Pope this week. Logic was there with the 2 games and I chose to play Areola over Martinez and yet both these GK couldn’t match the inform keeper in the league over one game.

                  Guess anybody is capable of hauling in any single gameweek so you just need to pick and choose when to be different

              8. ritzyd
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                1 month, 25 days ago

                Ings - looks on it and plays leeds

              9. Make Arrows Green Again
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                1 month, 25 days ago

                The psychology is interesting, and in a higher scoring game like fantasy NFL there might be a much stronger case to look towards a tried and tested asset in a SGW than a less attractive asset in a a double.

                Taking NFL as an example, if the average for a good running back is 15 points and and that score is based on a low-risk portfolio of rushing yards, receiving yard, rushing touchdowns and receiving touchdowns, you could confidently go with that player over one who averages 7 points and plays twice.

                But FPL scoring relies much more on points spikes, making it much harder to assess the likelihood of returns. Goals are a comparatively rare event for any given player and it's much harder to predict when these are going to come. The width of a post can make the different between a player finishing on 2 points or 10. Salah is still a great shout for the golden boot, is one of the most talented players in the league, and blanked in five consecutive games recently. The best attacking players in the league, in a stellar season, average something around or slightly less than a single goal a game.

                So the reason I want to go for a DGW captain where possible is not because I know that a player has a huge points floor and I'm likely to double that score, but more because you get two chances of them turning in a performance where they get a couple of attacking returns.

                1. Deulofail
                  • 5 Years
                  1 month, 25 days ago

                  How about a player who averages 7.5 points and plays twice?

                  I would say there's no way to separate them based on this alone. A high- 'risk portfolio' (projected 7.5 points) player with a greater point variability week-to-week could be a better option than the (projected) 15pter or a worse option. It's a 50/50 call for glory or disappointment.

                  1. Make Arrows Green Again
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 4 Years
                    1 month, 25 days ago

                    My thinking was it doesn't matter too much what a player's average is in FPL given the huge amount of uncertainty around predicting returns in a game where individual returns have huge significance (compared to other games).

                    So for me, buying two lottery tickets is more important than theoretical points floors (though I choose the player who is most likely to beat the odds of course!)

                    I think we're kind of making the same point actually, aren't we?

                    1. Deulofail
                      • 5 Years
                      1 month, 25 days ago

                      We usually are!

                      1. Make Arrows Green Again
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 4 Years
                        1 month, 25 days ago

                        you just make them more succinctly LOL

                2. HMC
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  1 month, 25 days ago

                  Fair points. Obviously some arguments both ways
                  I mean look at Gundogan I’m sure some people would have chosen Bruno over him for captain if they knew he was only playing once or yet wouldn’t have used TC on him....yet he still produced a monster score in his sgw

              10. noquarternt
                • 5 Years
                1 month, 25 days ago

                I think it's interesting but comes down to floors and ceilings. (Caveat that you have to be sure they'll probably play both which for someone like Kane for example is very very likely).

                1 game min = 2pts

                2 game min = 4pts

                Add on to that, double the amount of time to score/assist/get 2 clean sheets, max of 6 bps etc.

                Bruno is a very good option, but I think 2 good games for any reasonably prolific player makes them the better captain.