Dugout Discussion

Salah and Jota start together as Klopp benches Mané against Aston Villa

Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) and Diogo Jota (£7.0m) start together for Liverpool as they host Aston Villa in Gameweek 31.

The two players contributed to the Reds’ impressive finish against Arsenal in Gameweek 30 and were both inside the top-five most-bought players for the most recent round of action.

Sadio Mané (£11.8m) is the man to make way this afternoon, dropping to the bench for the second time in four Premier League matches.

That means Jota starts on the left-hand side of Liverpool’s front-three, spearheaded by Roberto Firmino (£9.0m).

Curtis Jones (£4.4m) misses out as a precaution which means Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.3m), James Milner (£5.3m) and Fabinho (£5.4m) are the midfield trio today.

Nathaniel Phillips‘ (£4.1m) stock remains high, earning his fifth Premier League start from a possible six alongside Ozan Kabak (£5.0m).

There is also plenty of revived interest in Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.4m) this afternoon.

Having produced 33 points across his last five matches, the Liverpool right-back was purchased by 190,000+ managers ahead of the Gameweek 31, the most new owners for any defender this week.

Meanwhile, Aston Villa are still without Jack Grealish (£7.5m) who recently suffered a setback on his return from a shin injury.

Bertrand Traoré (£5.9m) and Trézéguet (£5.2m) provide the width either side of Ollie Watkins (£6.5m) while Marvelous Nakamba (£4.3m) and Douglas Luiz (£4.8m) both feature in midfield with John McGinn (£5.5m).

Gameweek 31 Line-ups

Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Alisson; Robertson, Kabak, N Phillips, Alexander-Arnold; Wijnaldum, Milner, Fabinho; Jota, Firmino, Salah.

Aston Villa XI (4-2-3-1): Martínez; Targett, Mings, Konsa, Cash; D Luiz, Nakamba; Trézéguet, McGinn, B Traoré; Watkins.

Gameweek 31 so far…

Fantasy Premier League managers who swerved from their Leeds assets found their Gameweek 31 win at Manchester City hard to watch.

Stuart Dallas (£5.1m) was the second-most benched player for the latest round of action but bagged a brace at the Etihad Stadium.

To add insult to that decision, Patrick Bamford (£6.6m), the third-most sold Fantasy asset ahead of Gameweek 31, provided the assist for his opener.

From a Manchester City perspective, this match was all about Pep Guardiola once again.

Kevin De Bruyne (£12.0m), Rúben Dias (£6.2m) and Riyad Mahrez (£8.2m) were all unused substitutes while Ilkay Gündogan (£6.0m) and Phil Foden (£6.0m) both emerged from the bench for one-point cameos.

Ferran Torres (£6.9m) and Bernardo Silva (£7.4m) got the only attacking returns of the afternoon.

Provisional bonus points

  • 3 – Stuart Dallas
  • 2 – Bernardo Silva
  • 1 – Oleksandr Zinchenko

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1,221 Comments Post a Comment
  1. DycheDycheBaby
    • 6 Years
    3 months, 23 days ago

    What we would give to hear Peter Walton's view on that...

  2. Bookkeeper
    • 4 Years
    3 months, 23 days ago

    game is bent, no other explanation for that farcical decision.

    1. Homer21
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 23 days ago

      Yawn

      1. Salan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Yawn.

      2. Bookkeeper
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        the narrative is that it VAR and incompetency, majority of the folk feel that was onside, yet trained eyes can't see it? give me a break, game is bent.

    2. Salan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 months, 23 days ago

      I said months ago.

    3. Penang Sandman
      • 8 Years
      3 months, 23 days ago

      now I expect another one of your bud who said City buying the league after the red card

  3. DandyDon
    • 2 Years
    3 months, 23 days ago

    People in charge of VAR guessing again! I actually wanted some technology before it came in but it’s been ubsurd this season with offsides. Just scrap it to save us fans the pain next season. How many more seasons til they get it right!? Not a liverpool fan or any fantasy interest in that goal. I’ve certainly watched less football this season, probably because it has reduced my enjoyment watching matches.

    1. Joey Tribbiani
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Same

      • diesel001
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Disagree. VAR has applied the offside rule consistently. Have seen numerous goals been given offside in similar circumstances. Bamford, Traore, Firmino to name a few.

        If you don't like the rule change the rule.

        1. Homer21
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          This

        2. jason_ni
          • 5 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          You do understand that where the game is paused, and where the lines are drawn is a human. So its all subjective, where one var stops the frame, can be different from the next, so they won't be consistent.

          Especially when talking about decisions as close as the one today, or last night.

          1. Steve Chance
            • 3 Years
            3 months, 23 days ago

            I don't think they will ever understand that.

          2. diesel001
            • 4 Years
            3 months, 23 days ago

            Yes. But still consistently applied. As technology improves the decisions will improve.

            But still a damn sight more offside decisions being called correctly post-VAR than pre-VAR. That is progress.

          3. Sgt Frank Drebin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            3 months, 23 days ago

            They have like 500fps per second cameras, so they can quite well spot the moment when the ball was touched. The margin of error is very small. I'm not a fan of how VAR handles the offside rule, but we need to speak facts.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCOK7-kc_8o

            1. BDA Shadow
              • 6 Years
              3 months, 23 days ago

              Still a person making that decision, and the trust in those people is highly suspect in some of these calls.

              1. Sgt Frank Drebin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                3 months, 22 days ago

                Yup I understand the issue. It would probably be better if some algorithm took the decisions, but I'm not sure it is possible. And while maybe they can spot the right moment when the ball is kicked, I'm not sure the lines are so precise. But we would need probably to knowm ore about the whole process.

                1. BDA Shadow
                  • 6 Years
                  3 months, 21 days ago

                  You're right the biggest issue is the lines, even with their crosshair technology for height. I think changing it to feet would be much better - they're not always on the ground but the closer to the ground the easier it is.

    2. Kane and Ablett
        3 months, 23 days ago

        VAR is always right ... but it deals with the facts and provides exact measurements, the rules need to change, judge offside on feet only or the attacker is onside until there’s daylight but no one in their arm chair knows better than the man in stockley park

        1. In Bale We Trust
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          What are you on about? How does Var provide exact measurements? Nowhere have I seen a break down between the camera’s FPS/ how you measure the frame the football leaves the passer’s foot/the accuracy of the lines drawn on the screen.

          The entire thing is seems devoid of any facts and is all very nebulous. This is why people are frustrated.

          1. diesel001
            • 4 Years
            3 months, 23 days ago

            Same facts as when goals were analysed on MotD 15 years ago and were being called offside by Lawro and Hansen after the event.

            VAR has improved goal decisions as they pertain to offside.

            1. In Bale We Trust
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              3 months, 23 days ago

              Hard to say there’s been an improvement when you take into account the stoppages in games, the sanctity of the goal celebration being defiled, the complete lack of clarity on it all. It’s a mess in my opinion.

              1. Steve Chance
                • 3 Years
                3 months, 23 days ago

                The dilution of celebrating is such an underrated negative aspect.

              2. BDA Shadow
                • 6 Years
                3 months, 22 days ago

                It's a mess, yes, but it's undoubtably had a positive impact. You could never go back to stomaching 2 yard offside calls and blatant penalties or red cards missed or wrongly given. The celebration aspect sucks, and the lack of clarity is a huge problem currently in England at least, but overall things are far better; it's easy to forget how bad things were.

          2. Steve Chance
            • 3 Years
            3 months, 23 days ago

            All beneath the guise of being 'factual'. If the camera isn't exactly in line with play and square to it, the angle of distortion could easily give a misguided offside call.

        2. Homer21
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          And if a player scores with their head?

          1. BDA Shadow
            • 6 Years
            3 months, 22 days ago

            Honestly I'm fine with that. Players have to lean forward when running and if a defender is facing the other way they have an inherent advantage in producing an offside. It would make it very clear in decisions which is the important part - consistency. I think anyone would agree that the super close calls should favour the attacker for the enjoyment of the game.

        3. HashAttack
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Should be simple, if it's visually off-side then it's offside - Once they start having to draw lines etc. then it should could as onside

        4. BDA Shadow
          • 6 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          That's just not right at all. Var is run by humans who still make decisions and can impose bias. I'm a VAR advocate but don't be naive.

      • Nanoelektronicar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Classic Liverpool of late, good start, Salah misses great chance, opponents score, it stays 0:1.

      • Doctor Evil
        • 2 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Martinez, Watkins & Dallas all on the bench.

        Week fail.

        1. BERGKOP
          • 10 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          45 to go

          1. mojoindojo
            • 7 Years
            3 months, 23 days ago

            He will get all 3 off bench in 45?

            1. BERGKOP
              • 10 Years
              3 months, 23 days ago

              Misread. It's late over here in Aus.

        2. Eh, just one more thing ...
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          All sold on wildcard here .... standard WC immediately kicks in the nuts.

        3. Duke Silver ☑
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          But ask yourself, how many times out of 10 would you have started any of them?

        4. Werner Bros
          • 6 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          I see your bench and raise you sold on WC

        5. BDA Shadow
          • 6 Years
          3 months, 22 days ago

          To think I've had so many weeks like this, but I got 6 points from my bench boost...

      • BERGKOP
        • 10 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        They need to adopt Wenger's proposed approach for offside. Football needs more goals.

        1. Nanoelektronicar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          This.

      • Gudjohnsen
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Who scored LFC offside goal?

        1. Nanoelektronicar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Bobby Firmino

        2. AK_FC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Firmino, Robbo fantasy assist

        3. dunas_dog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Firmino

        4. Lethargio Alcantara
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          If you look at what they tried to do at City earlier, they did everything they could to make the game work for City. And then you look at something like that and you can't believe your eyes. Cheating in the Prem is real. I just can't believe it, the sport is dead.

          1. Lethargio Alcantara
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 2 Years
            3 months, 23 days ago

            sorry, wrong place for my comment

          2. BDA Shadow
            • 6 Years
            3 months, 22 days ago

            Are you old enough to remember the 2009 Champions League game between Chelsea and Barcelona? Referees have been cheating a long time.

      • Rainer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Miss the good old LiVARpool days.

      • Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 23 days ago

        They should show a Birdseye view of the offsides

        1. UNDERWORLD7
          • 10 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Agreed

        2. JustSomeGuy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Why? It'd be near useless unless you had one directly above each player, following them around.

          1. Steve The Spud
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            3 months, 23 days ago

            They do it in cricket with Hawkeye and in tennis, it’s useful because it’s much easier to see if players are in line or behind or In front

            Some of these offsides look miles on but the stupid lines disagree

            1. diesel001
              • 4 Years
              3 months, 23 days ago

              Easy in cricket and tennis because the lines are in a fixed position. Not the same in football.

              1. Steve The Spud
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 1 Year
                3 months, 23 days ago

                Have you seen the VAR cameras they’ve attached to stadiums? I dread to think the cost of them, if there is a will there is a way

                1. BDA Shadow
                  • 6 Years
                  3 months, 22 days ago

                  Just think how many cameras they could buy with $1,000,000 that nobody would even notice missing from a transfer fee or player salaries.

            2. JustSomeGuy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              3 months, 23 days ago

              I can't speak for cricket, but with tennis it's not watching a player, only the ball and static lines that don't move, so I think it'd only help checking whether a ball has crossed a line. Where players move constantly and the 'line' moves, I don't think it'd be as simple.

      • Eh, just one more thing ...
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Wildcard template looks to be in tatters .... immediate buys regret and mass refunds demanded .... oh the humanity of it all!!!!

        1. Qaiss
          • 5 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          I’m actually quite content with my team. All I’m going to do is sell Sterling > Bruno.

        2. TheDragon
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Completely wrong

          Bad outcome this week doesn’t mean it’s a bad wildcard team at all

          1. Eh, just one more thing ...
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 months, 23 days ago

            Haha ... there was a little sarcasm in there ... who would use the phrase ‘ the humanity of it all’ if they were being serious.

            I’m happy with my WC going forward but it’s not a great start for me.

            1. Eh, just one more thing ...
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 months, 23 days ago

              And ‘refund demanded’ and ‘buyers regret’ .... I’ll have to lay it on really much thicker next time ...

      • TAT
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Went from zero to three Liverpool players from the first to the last WC draft. Really wish I had gone with the former…

      • Lethargio Alcantara
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Oh FFS.

        If you look at what they tried to do at City earlier, they did everything they could to make the game work for City. And then you look at something like that and you can't believe your eyes. Cheating in the Prem is real. I just can't believe it, the sport is dead.

        1. Qaiss
          • 5 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Cheating is always involved. They just need to change how VAR works with offsides. If they need to draw tiny lines like that, then it’s a goal.

          There’s been many examples in past seasons of blatant incorrect calls without VAR, such as Cardiff getting relegated because of it. The problem isn’t VAR, it’s the people who are controlling it.

          1. Lethargio Alcantara
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 2 Years
            3 months, 23 days ago

            100% agreed

        2. diesel001
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          City lost though. So how did "they" (whoever "they" are) win?

          1. Lethargio Alcantara
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 2 Years
            3 months, 23 days ago

            they didn't win but they tried so hard and you could easily see that.

            1. diesel001
              • 4 Years
              3 months, 23 days ago

              Who are "they"?

              The Illuminati? The Stone Masons? Some aliens trying to control Earth?

              Deluded conspiracy theories

              1. Lethargio Alcantara
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 2 Years
                3 months, 23 days ago

                what conspiracy? Have you watched all the decisions that went against Liverpool this season? This is quite obvious some kind of betting scam.

                1. Cilly Bonnolly
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  3 months, 23 days ago

                  You should take your evidence to the papers and blow it wide open.

        3. Penang Sandman
          • 8 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          oh here you are

        4. Scots Gooner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          All the idiots come out on match day don't they?

      • Daniel Jebbison
        • 12 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Anyone has a time machine to do an annulment of my 16pt hit for the Liverpool Boys?

        1. Tinkermania
          • 1 Year
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Did you bring in 4 or 5 pool players? 🙂

      • Garth Marenghi
        • 5 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Odds Shaw doesn’t play versus Tottenham? Need those Dallas bench points

        1. Duke Silver ☑
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Should play.

      • Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 23 days ago

        What on earth is Allison playing at for that goal, stupid moron.

        1. Nanoelektronicar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          That had to be a save, just had.

      • Daniel Jebbison
        • 12 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        1 goal in 6 and a half games at home for Liverpool

        1. Nikolai Volkoff
          • 5 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          They're due?

      • aborg
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Will DeGea be playing this GW? What has happened to him lately?

      • HashAttack
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        What happened to the "different phase" ruling - even if Jota was offside, the goal was scored in a different phase

        1. Steve The Spud
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Kane scored the other day and son was miles off on the phase before

          God knows

          1. Nanoelektronicar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            3 months, 23 days ago

            That goal wasn't even checked for offside.

            1. JONALDINHO
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              3 months, 23 days ago

              They pick and choose when to go to VAR

              1. Salan
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                3 months, 23 days ago

                This is true.

            2. Steve The Spud
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              3 months, 23 days ago

              Haha so it wasn’t just me who saw that ? Madness isn’t it

              What happened to ‘interfering with play’ that seems to have died a death of some sort

      • Tshelby
        • 6 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Veltman and shaw are you going to play this week guys?

      • JONALDINHO
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Can they change the offside rule so that if it isn’t clear and obvious they give the attacker the benefit in doubt. Between different frame rates and lines drawn a lot of the decisions aren’t even correct

        1. Steve The Spud
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          3 months, 23 days ago

          No you can’t because that’s a grey area and open to the discretion of some moron at stockley park, it needs to be black and white but also not what it is now

          1. JONALDINHO
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            3 months, 23 days ago

            The current situation is also at the discretion of some moron at Stockley Park. Drawing lines from the hand of the attacker is literally against the rules of VAR. Daylight robbery

            1. Steve The Spud
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              3 months, 23 days ago

              True, it’s laughable

      • HollywoodXI
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Watkins coming in for KDB and Bruno VC. Not too far after all.

        1. HollywoodXI
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          *bad

      • Thomas Magnum
        • 5 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Been out all day, sorry if it’s been asked but how has Liverpool looked? Has Salah done anything of note thus far?

        1. Nanoelektronicar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Missed a sitter.

          1. Thomas Magnum
            • 5 Years
            3 months, 23 days ago

            Story of his season it seems...

        2. BERGKOP
          • 10 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Looked alright. Can't finish to save themselves.

      • Bees4Lyf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Big second half from Liverpool needed

      • KAPTAIN KANE
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Oops the hit to get and start Phillips not looking too wise now.
        Need a towering header from him!

        1. Nanoelektronicar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          I wish I got him over Trent. 4.0 and not getting clean sheet is fine, 7.3 another matter.

          1. KAPTAIN KANE
            • 4 Years
            3 months, 23 days ago

            This is true, was very annoying to need a hit to rid of Kilman with 0ITB!

      • El Presidente
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Klopp is finished

      • Werner Brothers
        • 6 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Interesting if Hawkeye rule in tennis applied in football, teams can't moan everytime the referee decision against them.
        VAR is good but slowing the game.

        1. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Tad easier to implement in Tennis & Cricket. The objects to measure against are static (same for Goal Line Tech which works well).

          Not to say they haven't got money in the game to develop something.

          1. Werner Brothers
            • 6 Years
            3 months, 23 days ago

            Not the tech, but the rule.
            In tennis the challenge is capped. Players can only use the Hawkeye technology to challenge referee about 2 or 3 times in a match.

            That way the players doesn't challenge everytime they feel the decision against them.

      • seanie3
        • 10 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        typical, I get rid of Dallas, Bamford, Martinez on my WC and bring in the big three for liverpool.. that went well..

        1. Revival
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Same, I even went with Wood instead of Watkins on the WC

        2. Nanoelektronicar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Same here. Ok I would probably bench Bamford and Martinez anyway.

        3. Gizzachance
          • 6 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Same, but would of benched Leeds players if I hadn’t

      • diesel001
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Same people moaning about VAR offsides now are the same people who moan when (pre-VAR) there were offsides missed by assistants which led to goals being given.

        Shows how many people will always moan.

        1. Salan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          You really believe this VAR in PL having no bias? Your world is so clean.

        2. Collie01
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          True. VAR is very positive development in general but they do need to look at the ridiculously marginal offsides. If it's that tight, how can they be sure of the exact time the ball leaves the players foot, or that the lines are perfectly exact?

        3. HashAttack
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          In the past there were clear offsides - they might have been missed by the assistant but were obvious after any quick replay. Those types of incidents were they ones we were "sold" VAR on - no one was asking for the sort of pedantic checking we now get. Everyone use to be happy with the concept that the attackers use to be given the benefit of the doubt

        4. Steve Chance
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          This is simply not true.

      • Eh, just one more thing ...
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 months, 23 days ago

        Salah, Bobby or Jota to be replaced Mane early 2nd half?