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Fantasy managers are masochists – and here’s why that’s a good thing

Former Fantasy Premier League (FPL) champion Simon March argues that feeling a bit of pain may not be a bad thing in our quest for a lofty overall rank.


Few would be surprised were they to discover that Fantasy Premier League is a game that attracts a community more prone than normal to masochism. No many FPL managers would last very long if they didn’t have at least an ambivalent relationship with pain and suffering. However, this tendency is not limited to FPL managers and is, in fact, present in all of us to some extent. It can also play a key role in determining which of us experiences success in life, and which of us don’t.

The significance of this propensity towards inviting pain has been seen to vary from person to person and, in the context of FPL, it may not only help explain some of the differences in playing style and risk preferences from manager to manager but, also, why we sometimes self-sabotage in our FPL decision-making. These are some questions this article will consider.

Hedonic Reversal

‘Hedonic Reversal’ is the state in which we, as humans, derive pleasure in things that cause us pain or discomfort. All of us experience this to an extent, it’s a big part of why we enjoy things like rollercoasters, horror movies or spicy food.

Hedonic reversal manifests itself biologically via the release of endorphins into the bloodstream as a response to us experiencing pain. Endorphins are, among other things, the body’s naturally occurring anaesthetic and they function in a similar fashion to opioids, both in their ability to numb pain and their tendency to create a sense of euphoria in those experiencing their release.

Runners and gym-goers might recognise this effect as the ‘runner’s high’ or a ‘pump’ respectively, and it is essentially the same mechanism. The evolutionary purpose for hedonic reversal is not entirely clear, some believe it occurs as a means of balancing out our response to emotional or physical pain, others believe it exists to reward and incentivise risk-taking, something which has helped us, overall, to advance as a species. The bottom line, however, is that a period of physical or emotional pain is likely to trigger a release of happy hormones to help cheer you up, basically.

Mavericks and Dullards

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FPL managers are known to differ greatly in their approaches to taking risks. We often colloquially refer to risk-takers as ‘Mavericks’ and risk-averse managers as ‘Dullards’. While it is true that risk preferences are the result of many factors, hedonic reversal could be a significant element of the more maverick playing style.

Everybody knows how good a feeling it is to take a risk and for it to pay off. We also know how bad it feels to take a risk and for it to backfire. But those who have experienced such backfires a few times might come to learn that, when things go wrong, it might not feel as bad as you expect. In fact, the worse it gets, the better it is likely to feel on a body chemistry level.

With this in mind, it’s not unreasonable to believe that some managers might come to fear failure less than others do. They might even get to a point, however subconsciously, where they even seek it. Win or lose, they eventually get the same positive feeling physically, so why not take risks? 

This disposition towards seeking pain could explain a lot (Spurs fans, for example) but the key insight from an FPL perspective might be that, if these quasi-masochistic tendencies manifest themselves more significantly in some people than others, they may have also a dramatic effect on the way those individuals play FPL. The natural question, therefore, is whether this is a good or a bad thing.

While it’s true that more risk does not necessarily equal more points in FPL (indeed, it could easily equal the opposite) you cannot get a really, really good rank without taking at least some chances. That could mean anything from some risky transfers to some maverick captaincy decisions. How many risks are sensible to take will always be something context-dependent, but it stands to reason that a manager who is unafraid to take an educated punt possesses a potentially valuable characteristic if they are looking for an elite-level rank or if they dream of winning FPL. As the aphorism goes; you may find plenty of risk-averse millionaires but you will find very few risk-averse billionaires. 

Of course, you will also find plenty of risk-taking people who are flat-broke so moderation is key. Allowing your FPL decisions to be driven by a subconscious desire to feel pain is likely to leave your arrows as red as that room in Fifty Shades of Grey. It’s good to take some risks but they have to be considered ones.

However, if you are a manager who is very risk-averse, perhaps to the point of detriment, experiencing a bit of the pain of failure might actually be good for you. In fact, it may be exactly what you need to remove the fear of taking risks and condition your subconscious to accept them more easily. As many have observed, our best FPL seasons seem to disproportionately follow our worst ones and so perhaps ‘learning to take a fall’ represents a key rite of passage in getting us there.


Why does good FPL form end and what can we do about it?

Elsewhere in Double Gameweek 32

Jamie Vardy (£10.1m) secured a double-digit haul as Leicester saw off West Bromwich Albion by a 3-0 scoreline.

After returning in just one match between Gameweeks 26 and 31, the Foxes’ forward notched a goal and assist against rather pedestrian opposition.

Crystal Palace are Vardy’s next opponents, whose recent defensive form suggest another big haul could await him in Blank Gameweek 33, hence why we have chosen him for the Scout Picks.

Jonny Evans (£5.5m) came away with a double-digit score of his own as he kept a clean sheet and found the net in the first half.

Wesley Fofana (£5.0m) managed to capitalise on the shut-out early as Marc Albrighton (£5.2m) replaced him just after the hour-mark.

Meanwhile, Ricardo Pereira (£5.9m) stayed on the bench as an unused substitute, with suggestions that he will come back into the team against Crystal Palace.

“I’m very conscious that Ricardo is coming back from a long-term injury and I always felt between when he came back and the end of the season we’re just getting him some minutes. I don’t think he’s ready to play three games in a week, especially having played on Sunday.” – Brendan Rodgers

Kelechi Iheanacho (£6.1m) continued his scoring form, adding an eight goal in his last six Premier League matches.

However, his burgeoning ownership might have hoped for more returns as he missed a number of big chances to walk away with a hat-trick.

His persistence in front of goal, combined with a Blank Gameweek 33 meeting with Crystal Palace, has also earned Iheanacho a place in the Scout Picks…

Provisional bonus points

  • 3 – Jonny Evans
  • 2 – Timothy Castagne
  • 1 – Jamie Vardy
853 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Pointless
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Is it worth the gamble to sell Bruno for Greenwood to fund Watkins to Vardy?! (Already have Iheanacho and Kane)

    1. Kebab pig
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Bruno has not been good the last 10 games

  2. Tinmen
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Folks. How was Maddison? Is he a good option ?

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Don’t think he was great today, but only half watching

      1. Nerdlinger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 3 days ago

        I thought he was very good actually! Could have got an assist or goal on another day. I'm keeping faith

  3. balint84
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Phillips or Lowton for the rest?

    1. moz_1983
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      If Phillips is healthy, him.

  4. Don Kloppeone
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Can’t believe it.... if nothing changes looks like I’m missing out on LMS cut off by 1 point!

    🙁

    Gutted!

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      That’s rough, good job getting this far

      1. Don Kloppeone
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 3 days ago

        Cheers. Sad times. Was concentrating more on LMS than my MLs!

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      So close. 🙁

      1. Don Kloppeone
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 3 days ago

        What happened after final whistle that changed safety score to 73? Was on 72 before!!

        Make it work TM!!

        1. The Suspended One
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 3 days ago

          Auto subs?

          1. Don Kloppeone
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 3 days ago

            Maybe that’s it. I had no autosubs....

            Taking this harder than I should 😆

            1. The Suspended One
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 3 days ago

              There can be only one 😉

              1. Don Kloppeone
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 3 days ago

                Hope you keep powering through mate

                1. The Suspended One
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  3 years, 3 days ago

                  Appreciate it; I’m worried to talk about it and jinx it; Ive been a point away from going out a few times already..

        2. El Presidente
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 3 days ago

          LOL

  5. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Best Leicester City DF out of Castagne or Fofana

    Any ideas would be welcomed

    1. Silecro
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Castagne ofc, much more attacking potential

  6. tristanabc
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Son + Fernandes -> Salah + Maddison (-4)?
    Yay or nay?

  7. moz_1983
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Stones to...

    A) Coady
    B) Saiss
    C) Fofana
    D) Other?

    Have TAA, Shaw, Dallas.

  8. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Last Man Standing GW32 (123 teams)

    Safety score = 73
    Top score = 97
    LMS average = 74.89 (-0.94) = 73.95

    57 teams to be removed, 66 teams through to GW33
    Up to 42% or minimum 28 teams out in GW33
    Congrats to all the final 66 🙂

    https://www.livefpl.net/LMS

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Next week is going to be a huge test.

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 3 days ago

        For sure, don't expect many chips left.

    2. El Presidente
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Still standing!! 🙂

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 3 days ago

        Well done!

    3. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Safety score higher than the top 10k average - has that ever happened before?

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 3 days ago

        As it gets down to the final rounds, it usually gets pretty high.

      2. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 3 days ago

        Last GW was 55 S/S, 53 Top 10K

  9. The Suspended One
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Lots of hits happening this week.

  10. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Was Maddison any good?

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      According to commentator and Sutton he was. Influential. I only saw until a few mins before Perez subbed in for him. I wonder does he improve Vardy's potential?

    2. WHUFCSmith23
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      People will say no because he didn't return but he had a decent shot and played a nice 1,2 with Iheanacho which on another day would have been an assist. Fine margins as we know but he had those moments and 70 more minutes under his belt. He didn't look leggy and was involved. It was only West Brom though

    3. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      West Brom gave him SO much space. I don't expect every team will.

  11. Arteta
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    I literally never brag but tonight I simply have to. I'm on 96 and waiting for final bonus points. Unreal and unexpected.
    Gameweeks like this one remind my why I still play FPL 🙂

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Great job!

  12. ZimZalabim
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    the picture is an omen for next season. Timo and bats swap spots

  13. FPLMACKEM
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Mendy
    TAA, Rudiger, Holding, Coady, Amartey
    Bruno, Salah (c), Jota, Lingard
    Iheanacho

    Forster, Davis, Kane, Son

    1ft 0.3 itb

    My main worry with this team is I don't think amartey will play and the lack of second and third striker. Some thoughts.

    A Amartey > Burn
    B Son > Greenwood (then bring son back for gw 34. Don't usually do this but I will probably FH in 35)

  14. bso
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Is Mendy (GK) likely to start next game?

    1. El Presidente
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Yes

    2. FPL Alaska
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      I am wondering the same.

    3. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Maybe.

  15. Silecro
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Webster at 4.3 nailed for Brighton? Can't stretch to Veltman without sacrificing and Burn is not nailed enough for my liking

    1. El Presidente
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Tricky

  16. FPL Alaska
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    What are people doing with Mendy? I have Mendy/Forster in goal, so this week was not good.

    1. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      I think I’m leaving it and hoping Mendy is reinstated in goal. To be honest, I’d rather take the risk of having no keeper than take the risk of being short an outfield player.

  17. FF Dirtbag
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Thoughts on my free transfers?
    Son and Phillips out
    Greenwood and TAA in

    Current team, 2FTs and 2.8 mill in the bank:
    Mendy Forster
    Shaw Dias Rudiger Saiss Phillips
    Salah Fernandes Son Lingard Jota
    Kane Iheanacho Vydra

    1. FPL Alaska
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      I like transfers. You just keeping Mendy and hoping he plays?

      1. FF Dirtbag
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 3 days ago

        Fingers crossed. Don't think it's worth a hit.

  18. Pointless
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Is it worth the Vardy + Iheanacho double up? I know they did botjh scored tonight but I didn't see the game and expected they'd haul big time after those early goals? Was this their high point?! Did Vardy look like he might struggle to keep up the frantic schedule ahead?

  19. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Evening all!!! Has there been any further information or rumours about Jota in the last few hours?? I saw he was not seen in training today earlier but that my event of knowledge!!
    Cheers!!

  20. asquishypotato
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    I've just logged on to see a lot of rhetoric about Jota? Is this something to do with training pics, as opposed to unconfirmed reports?

    1. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      And the above answers that question.

  21. Rog.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Would appreciate your help:

    A) Kane + Neto -> Lingard + Vardy
    B) Son + Neto -> 2 of Lingard/Maddison/Mount/Greenwood

    TIA

  22. Kebab pig
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    When are the press conferences tomorrow?

  23. FPLord
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    My Team is in a bit of a muss, got the WC wrong.

    Mendy Forster
    Phillips Rüdiger Shaw (Dallas Dias)
    Salah Jota Lingard Fernandes (Son)
    Nacho (Kane Davis) 2FT 1.9

    Should I bite the bullet now regarding future the DGW for an -8 hit?

    Mendy, Dias, Phillips, Jota > Martinez, TAA, Holding, Greenwood -8

    Have the exact funds to do it...

    1. House Frey Wedding Planner
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Yes

  24. House Frey Wedding Planner
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    What to do with this team? Leading ML but rivals are closing the gap.

    Martinez, 3.9
    Dias* Cancelo* Rudiger Shaw Phillips
    Son* Salah Jota Lingard Mount
    Kane* Vardy Davis*

    1FT, 2.7itb

    Have 4 bgw players plus Davis as fodder and Phillips a doubt.

    Should I do:

    A - Cancelo & Davis out, Dallas & Nacho in for a -4 hit

    B - Cancelo Dias & Phillips out, Dallas, TAA & Targett (or another defender up to 5.5) in for a -8 hit

    C - Cancelo & Davis out, Castagne & Nacho in for a -4 hit

    D - Other

    Cheers!

    1. Kebab pig
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      C

  25. I Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Vardy all good right? Planning to bring him in tonight.

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Looked fine

  26. Tambling5
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Is Pereira not a regular now for Leicester or did he have a knock?

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Knock

      1. Tambling5
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 3 days ago

        Thanks

    2. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Not playing three games in a week after acl

      1. Tambling5
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 3 days ago

        Ta

  27. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    How’s this free hit looking ? 0.1 itb

    Martinez
    Dunk Castagne taa
    Salah mane puli greenwood
    Ihenachio vardy Watkins

    3.9 Veltman dendo 3.9

  28. Ruudy Van
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Brag ish alert. I know a lot of people here have much better ranks but hey ho.

    Wildcard has helped me go from 453k to 234k in two weeks. Lowest rank all season and all of a sudden in with a chance in a couple of my ML. Bring on the run in!!

    1. bso
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Good job!

  29. Hitthewall
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    Mendy + Vydra --> Sanchez + Watkins?

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Not sure. Reckon both Mendy & Vydra start. The moves are still okay though. Sanchez have rubbish fixtures after SHU.

  30. Stupendous
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 3 days ago

    What is more important?

    A Mendy to Martinez (have 2 Chelsea def as well!)

    B Masuaku to Castagne

    C Neto to Maddison

    Pick one

    Thanks!

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Forster to Sanchez, bench Mendy?

      1. Stupendous
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 3 days ago

        Nah

    2. WHUFCSmith23
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 3 days ago

      Neto to Maddison. Probably has the most upside

      1. Stupendous
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 3 days ago

        I think so and Masuaku has a strong run in if fit