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Dugout Discussion April 25

Kane fit to start in EFL Cup final as De Bruyne returns

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Harry Kane (£11.8m) has made a swift recovery from an ankle injury and starts for Tottenham Hotspur in this afternoon’s EFL Cup final.

The Spurs striker, sold in his droves in Fantasy Premier League this week, leads the line for the Lilywhites but there is no place for Gareth Bale (£9.1m) in Ryan Mason’s starting XI.

Both of these clubs are, of course, without a Premier League fixture in Gameweek 33 as a result of their involvement in this cup tie at Wembley.

They return to FPL duties next weekend with appealing fixtures: Spurs at home to Sheffield United, City away at Crystal Palace.

Seven of the most-sold players of the current Gameweek are from today’s finalists, with Kane suffering more transfers out than any other player.

De Bruyne set for scan ahead of DGW32 match as Chelsea book place in FA Cup final

Other than Kane for Bale, Mason’s only other change to his starting XI sees Harry Winks (£5.1m) brought in from the cold at the expense of Tanguy Ndombele (£5.9m).

Pep Guardiola has been busier, making six changes from City’s midweek Premier League win at Aston Villa.

Kevin De Bruyne (£11.9m) and Sergio Aguero (£10.3m) are both fit, the former back in the side and the latter among the substitutes.

Zack Steffen (£4.4m), Aymeric Laporte (£6.0m), Joao Cancelo (£5.9m), Fernandinho (£5.4m) and Raheem Sterling (£11.1m) are the other returnees.

Ederson (£6.1m), Gabriel Jesus (£9.2m), Oleksandr Zinchenko (£5.5m), Rodrigo (£5.3m), Bernardo Silva (£7.4m) are benched, with John Stones (£5.1m) suspended.

Stones will also miss out in Gameweeks 34 and 35.

Manchester City XI: Steffen, Walker, Dias, Laporte, Cancelo, Fernandinho, Gundogan, De Bruyne, Mahrez, Foden, Sterling.

Tottenham Hotspur XI: Lloris, Aurier, Alderweireld, Dier, Reguilon, Højbjerg, Winks, Lo Celso, Lucas Moura, Son, Kane.

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  1. Scholes Out For Summer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 16 hours ago

    Spurs needs a new defence and a new midfield...

    Yikes

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    1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 16 hours ago

      And a new striker in the Summer 😉

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      1. Scholes Out For Summer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 16 hours ago

        Dont think anyone will pay the 150M Levy will be demanding for Kane, at least no club should pay that much in the Covid era

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        1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 16 hours ago

          Wouldn’t rule it out

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        2. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 16 hours ago

          No one has the money on the face of it but Spurs have the worst debt problem of all the ESL clubs so it's not impossible. Over I billion in debt as it stands and that will increase

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      2. OLD Rafiki
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 16 hours ago

        second striker, may be Dybala next season.

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        1. The Ejiptian King
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 16 hours ago

          Good one.

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    2. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 16 hours ago

      and a centre forwards who's more than half fit.

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    3. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 16 hours ago

      Sell their attack and goalkeeper and they might be able to afford it or at least keep their debt under 1.5 billion.

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    4. JONALDINHO
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 16 hours ago

      Ndombele, Sissoko and Hojberg are good enough. They just need a new centre back pairing

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      1. Scholes Out For Summer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 16 hours ago

        Yeah thats true, they just need to be able to handle the press better. They panic so much and pass it back or hoof it

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        1. JONALDINHO
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 16 hours ago

          That’s down to management. Ndombele is probably the most press resistant player in the league. With Kane and Son’s partnership too they have the quality. If Tuchel was at Spurs instead of Chelsea you’d see the difference

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      2. CBonci
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 16 hours ago

        They do need a CB upgrade. No stability. And they don’t have fullbacks/wingbacks who can defend. Aurier and Doherty haven’t convinced. Reg and Davies meh. Reg has potential though for sure.

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  2. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 16 hours ago

    Son sighting.

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  3. Digital-Real
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 16 hours ago

    Pep buys trophies

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    1. Thomas Magnum
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 16 hours ago

      He’s a class above the rest...

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      1. Nightcrawler
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 16 hours ago

        For sure. England is lucky to witness such classy pep football.. i dont think many managers out there would be able to produce this even with the same amount of investments

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        1. Thomas Magnum
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 16 hours ago

          People don’t understand how hard it would be to keep a squad motivated and successful for as long as Pep has.
          Managers genuinely have no response but to play almost every man behind the ball and hope to score on the counter against them. Just shows you how dominate every city performance is, and the score line and stats show it.
          Having money and resources is good and all but means nothing if you don’t spend it properly, as he has done for years.
          People should just sit back and enjoy the weekly clinics whilst they last

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          1. Nightcrawler
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 15 hours ago

            Yes the attention to detail in the city play is incredible when u watch them regularly and closely. Wish he stays in the pl for as long as possible

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          2. @persecuted_by_mods
              3 years, 15 hours ago

              I disagree, most people appreciate that and he's achieved insane things we just don't put it over achieving things with a lesser side, other than a Messi blessed barca his time at bayern was a failure in Europe, at city thus far again failure in Europe

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      2. Nightcrawler
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 16 hours ago

        So many managers have tried "buying" trophies in english football. They usually have a good year but quickly run out of ideas even with investments

        This level of dominance hasnt been seen in england for a long long time. How many domestic trophies has pep won now its getting ridiculous. Investments alone dont guarantee such consistency

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        1. Digital-Real
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 16 hours ago

          who?

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        2. @persecuted_by_mods
            3 years, 16 hours ago

            Nobody has spent like this other than Chelsea who pretty much had a similar period of dominance, he can field 3 separate teams in the competitions for godsake. He's one of the best yes but I simply cannot put his achievements over someone like klopp, even early mourinho with inter and Porto

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            1. Nightcrawler
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 15 hours ago

              I agree what klopp has done is even more incredible becuase he's done it for a good 3 years

              Chelsea havent been able to put two good seasons together since 2006

              Even the other city managers spent a ridiculous amount relative to the spendings of their time. Nobody has come close to this.

              Its one thing having a ridiculously good solitary achievement like ranieri with leicester, moirinho with porto but if its that easy to dominate for so long we would have seen other city or chelsea teams have a proper 4 year run such as this

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              1. @persecuted_by_mods
                  3 years, 15 hours ago

                  Sorry but that ignores that those early city spenders were building the club, signings like silva Hart kompany aguero yaya, they had money yes but not the real pull and hadn't been established, so peps continuation of that spend has just seen them win more cups but not the champions league

                  Again I think pep isba legend, and one of the best, his teams play amazing football and are so consistent but I can't deny that he can just buy a player for 40m and bench him a whole season if he wants and then buy a new one, nobody else can do that other than Chelsea and I do think they had a period of dominance these past 15 years. Maybe not quite as consistent as pep with the cups but they did better in Europe

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                  1. @persecuted_by_mods
                      3 years, 15 hours ago

                      And what klopp did with dortmund- champs final and league titles, pep has never done. Granted he shouldn't go to a lesser team for no reason but still, that's more impressive to me than winning lots of cups by having 3 squads worth of players that should be challenging for the title- the consistency is still impressive I'm not slating

                      Just saying I rate klopp dortmund, klopp what he's done at Liverpool higher, hell I rate mou Porto and inter higher.

                      The key pep failure is lack of champions league at bayern, without Messi he couldn't even do what klopp did with Liverpool and mou did for Porto and inter

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            2. Forza
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 16 hours ago

              The vast majority of trophies are won by teams who spend loads. Pep's still better than the managers of those teams.

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              1. Digital-Real
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 16 hours ago

                never did it with a mid table club with limited resources. No great for me.

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                1. Forza
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  He's never been at a mid-table club because he's always been above that level.

                  If he went to Everton instead of Ancelotti and won 5 trophies in 5 seasons, Pep's critics would still be saying "yeah, but has he taken a league 2 club to the top?!?!?!". Then if he did that, people would be saying "yeah, but did he win a World Cup with San Marino?!?!?!?!". He just can't win over some people, and it's good that he's not trying to.

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                  1. Digital-Real
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 16 hours ago

                    critics wouldn't be saying that. That's a really poor attempt from you.

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                    1. Forza
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 9 Years
                      3 years, 15 hours ago

                      I was just exaggerating my point that some people are overzealously contrarian, and managers shouldn't deliberately make their jobs 100 times harder just to appease those arguments.

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                      1. Thomas Magnum
                        • 8 Years
                        3 years, 15 hours ago

                        Exactly, why would he even care to do it at a smaller club. At the end of the day you win the same trophy no matter who it is you’re coaching

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            3. @persecuted_by_mods
                3 years, 15 hours ago

                Pep is a great and a legend, but he has basically unlimited money and still has only won the league 3/5 since arriving in England, I doubt they would have won this season either without Liverpool crippling injuries

                Champions league has got knocked out be lesser sides consistently since leaving barca too

                A great yes, but for me klopp deserves more credit and mourinhos early work too

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                1. Digital-Real
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 15 hours ago

                  his two CL trophies were with Barcelona where he had the greatest club player ever playing for him. This player also helped Luis Enrique to a CL trophy and treble that season.

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                  1. @persecuted_by_mods
                      3 years, 15 hours ago

                      My point exactly, however I disagree with you that hes not a great. Why would he deliberately go to a lesser team

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                2. Rassi
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 15 hours ago

                  Only those who don't really understand modern football disappreciate Pep's achievements.

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              • JONALDINHO
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 16 hours ago

                City 3-0 Spurs - Mourinho
                City 1-0 Spurs - Ryan Mason

                Mourinho = Fraud

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                1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  You missed:

                  Spurs 2-0 City

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                  1. JONALDINHO
                    • 6 Years
                    3 years, 16 hours ago

                    Aggregate 3-2 City.

                    Mourinho = Ryan Mason

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                    1. pingissimus
                      • 5 Years
                      3 years, 15 hours ago

                      You're pickling and choosing here 🙂

                      Spurs - Southampton 5-2 (Mou)
                      Spurs - Southampton 2-1 (Mason)

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              • FPL_Motty
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                3 years, 16 hours ago

                I'm not sure whether we'd have seen a different spurs today if mourinho was still in charge.

                I would also be quite worried as a spurs fan with Mason in charge rest of the season. I think levy is trying to do things on the cheap to save money since he's paying mourinho off. But despite I like Mason as a guy, he hasn't done anything tactically today, changes were delayed and ineffective. He changed nothing when it was going very wrong. A world class manager could have made a difference today.

                City were fantastic but spurs didn't have one serious moment of attack, kind of pathetic really. At least go out with some fight

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                1. CBonci
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  As a Spurs fan I agree with the comment about Mason’s management...but I doubt Spurs would have stood a chance regardless. Even with Mourinho. Maybe they nick an early goal and then City would have inevitably took charge when Spurs sat back.

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                  1. FPL_Motty
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 3 Years
                    3 years, 16 hours ago

                    Oh no I'm not saying you would have done better with mourinho. More a world class temp manager, a benitez etc, someone who's been there done that and just coaches until the end of the season.

                    Yeah in fairness I'm not sure how spurs were ever going to beat City today but you would want to at least see something more than they gave today.

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                    1. CBonci
                      • 8 Years
                      3 years, 16 hours ago

                      Yeah I think they were too passive in general. Mason up against Pep in his second match juuuuuust a bit of a mismatch.

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                2. circusmonkey
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  Surely Levy is waiting until the summer to get a manager. On the cheap comment is not warranted.

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                  1. FPL_Motty
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 3 Years
                    3 years, 16 hours ago

                    He is of course hiring at the end of the season. But you can hire a world class manager for the final games of the season, will cost you but could have made a difference today is my point.

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              • Hazz
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 16 hours ago

                Gary Neville: Son's crying 😆

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                1. g40steve
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  Going to be more until he moves to a winning team

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                  1. Royal5
                    • 12 Years
                    3 years, 16 hours ago

                    He was the worst player on the pitch

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              • OLD Rafiki
                • 3 Years
                3 years, 16 hours ago

                one cap down two more to go. City we move.

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              • dunas_dog
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 16 hours ago

                So which Spurs player, if any would you prioritise bringing in for Sheffield United game?

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                1. g40steve
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  K & S

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                  1. Botman and Robben
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 16 hours ago

                    +1

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                2. CBonci
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  Kane & Son. I still have Reg but not confident.

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              • g40steve
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 16 hours ago

                Kane & Son need another club, the so close gang otherwise.
                All this talk of they won’t let Kane go, if he wants out who can stop him, they cannot afford for him to sit on the bench.

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                1. Scholes Out For Summer
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  Levy can stop him. Kane is not the type to sit out games even if he's unhappy

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              • Lets Talk About 19 Baby
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 16 hours ago

                Its good to see Laporte not being sent off by limp biscuit officials didn’t effect the outcome of this final. Officials throwing a game for money bags City, Corruption on planet earth, no not having that.

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                1. beric
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  Tell us more

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              • Scholes Out For Summer
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                3 years, 16 hours ago

                Son Kane Lloris the only players in that club that actually cares

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                1. The Ejiptian King
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  More than that care, they're just rubbish.

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                  1. Scholes Out For Summer
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 10 Years
                    3 years, 15 hours ago

                    lol youre blind

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                    1. @persecuted_by_mods
                        3 years, 15 hours ago

                        I think he meant not only are the other players not caring, they're rubbish too

                        Not the players you mentioned are rubbish

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                        1. The Ejiptian King
                          • 5 Years
                          3 years, 15 hours ago

                          Yep, obviously.

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                      • The Ejiptian King
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 15 hours ago

                        ?

                        I meant other players also care but they're just not very good, Dier for example.

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                2. Digital-Real
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  This Spurs side under Ryan Mason look ineffective, is Kane required if they can't create chances?

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                  1. FPL_Motty
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 3 Years
                    3 years, 16 hours ago

                    Sheffield utd aren't city

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                3. g40steve
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  Martinez
                  Rüdiger, Pereira, Trent
                  Lingz, Bruno, Son, Salah
                  Nacho, Watkins, Kane

                  Button, Jota, Shaw, Veltman

                  Don’t like Jota on the bench but pulled off too many times!
                  Bench look correct?

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                  1. Utopsis
                    • 4 Years
                    3 years, 15 hours ago

                    Don't like Shaw on the bench, maybe swap Watkins for him

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                    1. g40steve
                      • 6 Years
                      3 years, 15 hours ago

                      Playing Pool so might not get CS

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                      1. Utopsis
                        • 4 Years
                        3 years, 15 hours ago

                        He's similar to Trent - don't play him for his CSs, he creates so many chances from open play and set pieces

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                4. The Train Driver
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  Didn't see the game, 21-2 in shots.. Damn. Were Spurs that bad?

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                  1. KAALI_DAAL
                    • 3 Years
                    3 years, 16 hours ago

                    Very

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                5. Forza Papac
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  xG
                  City 2.82
                  Spurs 0.04

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                  1. The Train Driver
                    • 8 Years
                    3 years, 16 hours ago

                    Wow!

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                  2. FPL_Motty
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 3 Years
                    3 years, 16 hours ago

                    Lol spurs xg didn't change from 1st half. How bad

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                  3. JBG
                    • 5 Years
                    3 years, 15 hours ago

                    Mourinhos defensive tactics today killed them.

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                6. Hazz
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  Crikey - Son is distraught. How many tears is Levy liable for?

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                  1. Thomas Magnum
                    • 8 Years
                    3 years, 15 hours ago

                    He needs to leave ASAP. Just look at his trophies won, he deserves a better legacy.

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                7. Sgt Frank Drebin
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  Every season it is the same story for me. Great start, a slump when Champions League kicks off, decent christmass, tragic February and March and then climbing up in April and May. I would have said it is just a coincidence if it didn't happen every single season I played. Why could this be? Maybe FPL is more predictible with one game a week rather than in a congested schedule when players are tired and rested often? Or maybe I just have more time to think then?

                  What do you think? Do you also have some patterns during a season?

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                  1. FPL_Motty
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 3 Years
                    3 years, 15 hours ago

                    Funnily I have the opposite pattern. Always a bad start first 10-15gws and then always gain in the final 10 but last couple years has been frustratingly starting from too far behind.

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                8. OLD Rafiki
                  • 3 Years
                  3 years, 16 hours ago

                  It never gets easier to lose. That's two major finals and two defeats for Harry Kane with this club. Will he be here when they finally do break their barren streak?

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                  1. ZimZalabim
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 15 hours ago

                    If there is a project and a manger that he can back and there is enough investment then there is a chance that they could win a cup maybe in the next couple of years, but tbh Kane doesn't have any more time for this.

                    He had the big project and a manager with a plan some investment and they came up short, then the Hail Mary Jose play which failed and now he has to either stay for loyalty and a very big contract and probably break shearers record but maybe win 1 domestic cup before he's done or he goes to City/United/Madrid and gets a few trophies and hell still get a big contract, I think its his last summer to get a move though or he might be too old for most apart from maybe United.

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                9. Gleys11
                  • 3 Years
                  3 years, 15 hours ago

                  Shaw down to 2 bonus

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                  1. FPL_Motty
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 3 Years
                    3 years, 15 hours ago

                    Gr. Why was that updated twice..

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                  2. JBG
                    • 5 Years
                    3 years, 15 hours ago

                    Mark doesn't have him, surprise, surprise.

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                  3. Thomas Magnum
                    • 8 Years
                    3 years, 15 hours ago

                    STOP THE COUNT!

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                  4. Fudgy
                    • 4 Years
                    3 years, 15 hours ago

                    Typical

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                    1. Botman and Robben
                      • 7 Years
                      3 years, 15 hours ago

                      You went 5 at the back. Ballsy.

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                10. wulfrunian
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 15 hours ago

                  Score check?43 with Nacho to go.

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                  1. Botman and Robben
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 15 hours ago

                    Ask after this game.

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                11. OverTinker
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 15 hours ago

                  Absolutely needed a West Brom goal

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