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Grealish benched as United stick with five-man defence for Manchester derby

The Manchester derby is the first of five matches taking place on a slightly quieter-than-usual Saturday afternoon of Premier League football.

The omission of Jack Grealish from the City starting XI is perhaps the headline team news from the lunchtime clash at Old Trafford, with the benchings of Raheem Sterling and Riyad Mahrez rather more predictable given their relative lack of involvement on the domestic front over the last couple of months.

Ilkay Gundogan replaces the former Villa man in one of two changes that Pep Guardiola has made from Gameweek 10, with John Stones in for the suspended Aymeric Laporte his other alteration.

Kyle Walker is fit to start after taking a knock to his foot in midweek.

Raphael Varane‘s hamstring injury rules him out of the visit of United’s cross-city rivals, with Eric Bailly taking his place.

Victor Lindelof was a minor concern for this clash with a knock but is fit to take his place alongside Bailly and Harry Maguire in a three-man central defence, with Ole Gunnar Solskjaer seemingly opting for the same 3-4-1-2 – or, given the likelihood of them sitting back, 5-3-2 – set-up he has favoured in his side’s last two competitive matches.

The Norwegian had hinted at a few other injury doubts without naming names in his pre-match press conference and the Red Devils are indeed without another one of their starters from the 3-0 win over Tottenham Hotspur.

Edinson Cavani is the man to miss out, with Mason Greenwood starting in his stead.

Aside from those two enforced alterations, United are otherwise unchanged from last week.

Cristiano Ronaldo is the most selected player in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) for this encounter but his 31% ownership figure has to be taken with a pinch of salt, given the number of ‘ghost teams’ in FPL that tend to be drifting along three months into a campaign.

Among the top 10k, Ronaldo is the only United player with an ‘effective ownership’ (EO) above 1% for this fixture.

It’s Phil Foden and Joao Cancelo who are the most popular picks among the leading 10,000 managers, each boasting an EO of just over 62%.

GAMEWEEK 11 LINE-UPS

Man Utd XI: De Gea, Wan Bissaka, Bailly, Lindelof, Maguire, Shaw, Fernandes, McTominay, Fred, Greenwood, Ronaldo.

Subs: Henderson, Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Dalot, Sancho, Telles, Matic, Van de Beek.

Man City XI: Ederson, Walker, Dias, Stones, Cancelo, Silva, Gundogan, Rodri, De Bruyne, Jesus, Foden.

Subs: Steffen, Carson, Ake, Sterling, Grealish, Zinchenko, Fernandinho, Mahrez, Palmer.

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  1. Eezer Goode, Eberechi Goode
    • 9 Years
    6 months, 11 days ago

    Going to be on Chilwell watch it looks like as Chelsea is the live TV choice game today - (while struggling to find a decent Palace v Wolves source) :/

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      I did the sideways Rudiger to James this week - got the pair of wingbacks. He's hopin'

      1. Eezer Goode, Eberechi Goode
        • 9 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        Good luck! I went Chilwell over James, just know that will backfire 😀

  2. jackruet
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    6 months, 11 days ago

    Is trent worth the money? Chelsea fullbacks, cancelo, livra is doing more than enough.

    1. Kun Tozser
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      You can have them all

      1. jackruet
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        6 months, 11 days ago

        But i want son too

        1. Ze_Austin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 11 days ago

          You can have them with Son

          1. Baps hunter
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            6 months, 11 days ago

            Yes, my team is linked for example.

    2. F4L
      • 7 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      no mid/striker under 10mil is worth it over Trent etc, just play 4/5 back

    3. User Unknown
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      One of each is probably sufficient, otherwise you’re making budget decisions elsewhere. That said, seems no real point to premium strikers at the moment

      1. Baps hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        One premium + Salah and Son is still affordable, but it's close.

    4. HVT
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      I think I'd compare him (and those mentioned) to mids/forwards more than those Defs

    5. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Rudiger/Chillwell/TAA/Cancelo/Livramento FTW

      1. Baps hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        I have James over Rudiger and also Son.

    6. GreennRed
      • 10 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Trent is worth it if Pool keep cleansheets. Improvement is needed in that regard. He's nailed on. Bar Mendy and Rudiger there's a doubt with Chelsea defenders, however small. Livra won't do his points but pound for points prob better.

    7. I Member
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Trent + Cancelo + Chilwell/James with Livra on the bench. Easy.

      1. User Unknown
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        I’d be tempted to have one Chelsea and perhaps Ben White as the fourth defender. Guess it comes down to how often you want 4/5 at the back, and Tuchel rotation

        1. I Member
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          6 months, 11 days ago

          That's what I meant. Chilwell or James, not both. I have Livra and White on my bench. 3-4-3.

    8. The Frenchie
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      I’m not owing Trent since GW6 and I will definitely keep like that. Current defense:

      Cancelo / Chilwell / James (Duffy / Livramento)

  3. F4L
    • 7 Years
    6 months, 11 days ago

    Pep not using any subs today as well, I think he's found his preferred eleven...

    1. AC/DC AFC
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      And he wants 5.

      1. AC/DC AFC
        • 6 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        Tbf, in total control.

      2. F4L
        • 7 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        imo that shouldn't happen, unfair advantage to the big sides with better squads

  4. Cok3y5murf
    • 5 Years
    6 months, 11 days ago

    Mark wildcarded just for Foden and he's blanked twice lol

    1. jackruet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Foden Isn't salah

    2. Rainer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Did people not see how Foden got his points vs Brighton? Unparalleled luck!

      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        He does seem to get strangely attached to some players. One Lukaku goal, takes a -8 for him. One Foden haul, wildcards for him...

    3. Echoes
      • 1 Year
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Nobody is bigger than the team and all that. except Salah though.

  5. Willesden Mariner
    • 4 Years
    6 months, 11 days ago

    FPL Vicky Pollard Family, your CanCHelo is a beauty! Italians will be celebrating LOL. Just need Azpi to stay on the bench for my Dias autosub.

  6. FFFoxy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 months, 11 days ago

    oh Jesus and not meaning Gabriel. Cancelo and liv on bench. Playing James, Chilwell & Tierney. Hoping Tierney doesn't start or come on

  7. Thomas Magnum
    • 6 Years
    6 months, 11 days ago

    Is it worth finding the funds to do Dias > Cancelo over the IB or not worth it because it would take 2ft’s and probably will have other fires to put out?

    1. ZeBestee
      • 7 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      I will do the same move. Dias offers nothing apart from CS and occassional bonus points.

      1. Thomas Magnum
        • 6 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        I agree, only thing maybe that Dias offers is slightly more starting security with all the fixtures coming up, and due to the fact he’s had a rest and Cancelo hasnt but other then that he falls behind

        1. ZeBestee
          • 7 Years
          6 months, 11 days ago

          I feel like Cancelo is slightly more nailed on than Dias now. Things have changed.

          1. Thomas Magnum
            • 6 Years
            6 months, 11 days ago

            It’s honestly taken me by surprise, to have gone from benched in the UCL final to starting every league game so far he just may well be. Maybe after losing Mendy has Pep now has put extra emphasis on Cancelo and Zinchenko is just not going to have that much of a role

            1. ZeBestee
              • 7 Years
              6 months, 11 days ago

              Yes. He is arguably their best player this season ahead of Bernardo.

    2. im1974
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Not worth it. Cancelo had his haul today

      1. Zim0
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        Third one so far. Smashing it in Champions league as well. He's gonna keep hauling

      2. Thomas Magnum
        • 6 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        I’ve never been fully convinced with Cancelo, he seems to get better returns in the UCL. But the thing is he’s taking so many shots now (rarely any on target) and is getting lucky assists, albeit he gets forward enough to get the assists, I’m starting to think he’s getting harder to ignore

  8. AC/DC AFC
    • 6 Years
    6 months, 11 days ago

    For all Man City dominance and Cancelo class, it was 2 lucky goals to win it today.

    1. Rainer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      They could have got out of first gear if they wanted to and scored a few more.

      1. AC/DC AFC
        • 6 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        I wish they had!

    2. TomSaints
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      It was a bit like that in Liverpool game, 3-4 goals were ruthless exploitation of a bad bounce / touch.

      But the better teams tend to be lucky (funny that!) and united can’t lace the boots of either teams

  9. Spg76
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    6 months, 11 days ago

    TalkSPORT man of the match David de Gea lol

    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      6-0 with a mortal keeper

  10. Moose™
    • 9 Years
    6 months, 11 days ago

    Son + Kane duo is too much?

    1. AC/DC AFC
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      £22.5m

  11. Van der Faart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    6 months, 11 days ago

    I'll take the 6 Dias points for Grealish no show as a nice parting gift from Grealish.

    1. AC/DC AFC
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      You benched Dias away at Utd?

      1. Van der Faart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        It made sense based on the other options I have this week. Plus City haven't looked THAT great defensively either. Almost transferred him out too

  12. ZeBestee
    • 7 Years
    6 months, 11 days ago

    Havertz this is your last chance, do your owners proud you b*llend of a footballer.

    1. Jafooli
      • 10 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      😆 …. This

    2. Firminoooo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      I own him. No way he scores.

  13. Forgetmeknot
    • 3 Years
    6 months, 11 days ago

    Getting azpi on wc over Rudiger in 7/8 has been a stinker

    1. RogDog_jimmy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      6 months, 11 days ago

      I transferred Azpi in for Rudiger when he got injured in the IB.
      Since then he’s got 1 CS and missed 3 games. Woof.

    2. Echoes
      • 1 Year
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Tbf, he was as "safe" as Rudiger during that time. Don't beat yourself up about it.

      1. RogDog_jimmy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        6 months, 11 days ago

        Completely made sense. Safe as a CB with occasional WB games.
        His injury kinda messed it up.
        All his missed games led to Livra points to me too.

        I’m in no rush to sell him - have plenty of depth. But he might become TAA soon anyway.

  14. Milkman Bruno
    • 1 Year
    6 months, 11 days ago

    Not watching United on a Saturday anymore. Putting me in bad form for the day again 😆

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      All I can do is laugh , follow cricket

    2. User Unknown
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Any day ending in Y

  15. diesel001
    • 5 Years
    6 months, 11 days ago

    Got a feeling Chelsea will concede today (I say this as a double Chelsea defence owner). Would be peak FPL that when people are going in on the Chelsea defence double up and triple up they concede.

    1. No Need
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Looking for attack points as well

    2. ZeBestee
      • 7 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      As long as James the wing backs get the attacking points I am fine with it.

    3. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      If you got James & Chilly you will get attacking points

  16. Valdez
    • 9 Years
    6 months, 11 days ago

    Is 20 from my bench boost so far any good? Would have been gutted if I didn’t play it

    1. Rainer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Once it's a genuine bench yeah.

      Cancelo wouldn't count for example...

      1. Valdez
        • 9 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        Chilwell, rudiger, Trent
        Salah Mbuemo Saka Raph
        Antonio Jimmy Kane

        Was genuine mate he doesn’t get in ahead of the above

    2. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Very tidy.

    3. Echoes
      • 1 Year
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Well done. I opted against doing BB this week after pondering on it for days. 9 points from McCarthy sitting on there so far. We'll see how the rest of it goes and whether it turns out to be a good decision or not.

    4. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      I got 25 for my bench in GW2 so you're doing good.

  17. F4L
    • 7 Years
    6 months, 11 days ago

    Now time for Mbeumo/Toney to reward their owners 😎

    1. Cok3y5murf
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Regardless of the outcome, I'm sure 2ney will rise in price...

  18. Postman Ty
    • 7 Years
    6 months, 11 days ago

    What the actual f is wrong with Paul Scholes? Talking about how far away United are from City and Pool but then says they're not far off Chelsea?! This after saying Chelsea has the worst defence in the top 4?!

    Champions of Europe, top of the league, fewest goals conceded in the league, most clean sheets in the league, record for fewest goals ever conceded in a Champions League campaign.

    This man has a potato for a brain.

    1. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Gingers for you bud

    2. AC/DC AFC
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Likely 5 points clear of Man City too.

    3. Ginkapo FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 months, 11 days ago

      Lets not discuss Scholes' antics

    4. Pinturicchio10
        6 months, 11 days ago

        High on nail polish

        1. PartyTime
            6 months, 11 days ago

            😆

      • DMP
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        No Mount or Azpi. Time to get rid for Jota. Glad i have Gallagher, Smith Rowe and Livra on my bench tough.

      • Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        Really need mbeumo and Toney to do something today

        1. ZeBestee
          • 7 Years
          6 months, 11 days ago

          Yeah, have the double up as well but the jury is still out.

      • tbos83
        • 1 Year
        6 months, 11 days ago

        Really which I'd pulled trigger on Ronaldo > Kane

        1. tbos83
          • 1 Year
          6 months, 11 days ago

          *wish

        2. Jässi
          • 5 Years
          6 months, 11 days ago

          Ronaldo will be gold when their fixtures turn alongside with a new manager bounce (if/when it happens).

      • Jässi
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        Do you think it is possible now that Azpilicueta will not play a minute? Cancelo waiting first on bench with 14 points... Last time I will bench Cancelo, I swear!

        1. Zim0
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 11 days ago

          Possible but not a certainty. You're in for a tense 2 hours

        2. Dreams
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          6 months, 11 days ago

          Haha same here mate. I'm hoping for a no Azpi show.

        3. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 months, 11 days ago

          Chelsea don't tend to make defender subs. He'll be back in CD against tougher opposition, I reckon.

          1. Dreams
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            6 months, 11 days ago

            Cheers for the words Andy. Fantastic season till now.

          2. Baps hunter
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            6 months, 11 days ago

            With their injury situation wouldn't bet on it.

        4. Jässi
          • 5 Years
          6 months, 11 days ago

          Cheers all. Fingers crossed

      • Dynamic Duos
        • 8 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        Utd great comedy value

        1. The Train Driver
          • 6 Years
          6 months, 11 days ago

          How can you confuse comedy with tragedy?

          1. Dynamic Duos
            • 8 Years
            6 months, 11 days ago

            an event causing great suffering, destruction, and distress, it definitely isn't this, I'm laughing

        2. Thomas Magnum
          • 6 Years
          6 months, 11 days ago

          Great way to fall asleep watching them

      • Rainer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        United have broken Roy Keane.

        A new low!

        1. Echoes
          • 1 Year
          6 months, 11 days ago

          Made by United. Broken by United. The irony of life.

      • Lucky_2010
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        tuchel seem to started azpili playing ucl but benching him for pl at the moment

        1. RogDog_jimmy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          6 months, 11 days ago

          Think it was all timing with his injury. They have such great depth. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s back first choice in the prem post IB.

      • fish&chips
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        Clock change has put me in a tricky dilemma. Stay up till midnight watching the 3pm kick offs knowing I'll be woken up at 7am and probably a couple of times in the night by my daughter or bed now and get up at 6am for the match of the day challenge. What would you do?

        1. RogDog_jimmy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          6 months, 11 days ago

          My little dude gets my up around 6 every day so I’d do the match of the day.
          But probably mix it up a bit depending on if there are fixtures I’d want to see in full especially.

        2. Baps hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          6 months, 11 days ago

          Hire nanny?

          1. RogDog_jimmy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            6 months, 11 days ago

            Haha. Nanny’s are expensive!

            I’m west coast US so games start here at 4.30am on Sats. Perfect with a 1 year old. I’m basically up chilling with him watching games till lunch time.

            1. fish&chips
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              6 months, 11 days ago

              Haha that's cool. I'm trying to get my daughter into watching the highlights when I wake up. Most games are overnight for me here

            2. Andy_Social
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              6 months, 11 days ago

              Not in Cambodia they're not.

              1. fish&chips
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                6 months, 11 days ago

                Have one during the week already. Can't farm my daughter out full time 🙂

      • DA Minnion (Former great)
        • 9 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        Was at the game.United were clueless. City majestic. Ole can't hold on much longer. Only for De gea it would have ended 6 nil.

        1. Baps hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          6 months, 11 days ago

          Something has to change, but not certain that getting OGS sacked now would change anything. They have too many attackers and lack talent in midfield. It can't be solved before January transfer window.

      • Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        Football For All
        @FootballlForAll
        · 1h
        BREAKING: Eddie Howe to Newcastle is now looking uncertain after he failed to secure a deal for his backroom staff to follow him to the club.

        Guess the potless Toon board can't afford them.

      • No Need
        • 8 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        Knew my patience with Brewster would pay off

      • Eh, just one more thing ...
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 months, 11 days ago

        Goal Norwich … Normann