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Chelsea v Man Utd team news: Alonso starts as Mount, Havertz and Ronaldo benched

In the final match of Gameweek 13, Chelsea take on Manchester United at Stamford Bridge, with Fantasy interest mostly centred around the hosts backline.

Kick-off is at 16:30 BST.

Chelsea, who have conceded just four goals in 12 league matches this season, make four changes from Gameweek 12, with Marcos Alonso (£5.6m), Ruben Loftus-Cheek (£5.4m), Hakim Ziyech (£7.3m) and Timo Werner (£8.6m) replacing Ben Chilwell (£5.9m), N’Golo Kante (£4.9m), Mason Mount (£7.5m) and Kai Havertz (£8.0m).

That means another start for Reece James (£6.2m), who has four goals and four assists from nine Premier League appearances this term, plus Trevor Chalobah (£4.8m). As a result, Cesar Azpilicueta (£5.8m) is once again a substitute, along with Romelu Lukaku (£11.5m) who is back from injury.

The headline news for Man Utd, who will have Michael Carrick in the dugout, is that Cristiano Ronaldo (£12.4m) drops to the bench with Bruno Fernandes (£11.6m), Jadon Sancho (£8.9m) and Marcus Rashford (£9.4m) preferred in the attacking roles.

GAMEWEEK 13 LINE-UPS

Chelsea XI: Mendy, Chalobah, Thiago Silva, Rudiger, James, Loftus-Cheek, Jorginho, Alonso, Ziyech, Hudson-Odoi, Werner

Subs: Arrizabalaga, Christensen, Lukaku, Pulisic, Saul, Barkley, Mount, Azpilicueta, Havertz

Man Utd XI: De Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Bailly, Telles, Fred, Matic, McTominay, Fernandes, Sancho, Rashford

Subs: Henderson, Jones, Ronaldo, Mata, Martial, Greenwood, Lingard, Dalot, Van de Beek


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  1. HMC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    1 month, 25 days ago

    I’m that guy who bought in both Cancelo and James for -4 this week. Joy

    1. Athletico Underachieving
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 25 days ago

      Ouch. I’m that guy who had exact money for Mbeumo to Jota but got scared and bought James in

    2. Dammit_182
        1 month, 25 days ago

        Of the ‘main’ transfers in this week I think Jota was the only one too really pay off.

        1. HMC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          1 month, 25 days ago

          Yeh pretty much Jota was the difference.
          Happy that I went with gut and captained Trent over Mo and bought in Dennis too

      • thegaffer82
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 25 days ago

        A Cancelo & a James is not just for Christmas.
        You can set & forget those two now & worry about other things!

        1. HMC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          1 month, 25 days ago

          100 agree just the timing was awful and Kane & Foden no show

      • Boyd to Sven
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        1 month, 25 days ago

        Good moves. You'll have many brighter days to come with them than without!

        1. HMC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          1 month, 25 days ago

          At least Dennis paid off so not all bad, to fund above moves

    3. Athletico Underachieving
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 25 days ago

      Ramsdale
      TAA, Rudi, James, Cancelo
      Salah, Son, Gallagher
      Antonio, Hwang, Vardy

      Foster, Mbeumo, Livra, Sissoko

      Poor week, 50 points, but save FT?

      1. Little Red Lacazette
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 25 days ago

        Save

    4. Red Red Robins
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 25 days ago

      Was all set for Vardy to Lukaku, but is it too soon?
      Thoughts on Lukaku starting next week?

      Or best to save my tfr?

      1. HMC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        1 month, 25 days ago

        What’s the rush with Lukaku. He wasn’t scoring beforehand best to wait

        1. TopBinFc
            1 month, 25 days ago

            This, Lukaku was in poor form before injury

        2. wulfrunian
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 25 days ago

          save for me

        3. Dammit_182
            1 month, 25 days ago

            Way too soon. Lukaku needs a few more fitness weeks and vardy is a pretty streaky player so this could spark a goal feat.

          • Il Capitano
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 25 days ago

            save

          • DARE TO BISCAN
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            1 month, 25 days ago

            Save

          • Red Red Robins
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 25 days ago

            Thanks all, guess ill wait and see
            Just Watford next

        4. YNWA74
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          1 month, 25 days ago

          This is a tricky one - will replace Chillwell for either James or Cancelo.
          Who is most likely to be rested for the mid-week fixture?

          1. VIVA_RONALDO
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 25 days ago

            Both miss out midweek IMO

          2. TopBinFc
              1 month, 25 days ago

              I think both may get a rest, just my opinion

          3. g40steve
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            1 month, 25 days ago

            Foden owners a week too late but Jota?

            1. TopBinFc
                1 month, 25 days ago

                I'd keep, surely hes back midweek?

                1. g40steve
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 3 Years
                  1 month, 25 days ago

                  I waited for weeks almost as bad as owning Digne

                  1. TopBinFc
                      1 month, 25 days ago

                      Yeah fair point, I'm thinking of avoiding city players going forward, less of a headache

                2. Dammit_182
                    1 month, 25 days ago

                    I think think Jota is a better asset going forwards.

                    1. g40steve
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 3 Years
                      1 month, 25 days ago

                      Me too

                    2. bench boost for every gamew…
                      • 4 Years
                      1 month, 25 days ago

                      Origi starts Vs Everton so one of Jota, mane or Salah is benched, from history Salah often gets his Christmas rest in this gw but the Milan game is perhaps the one this year as they qualified already. Skonto Rigga posted the history of Salah bench.
                      Either way bringing in Jota before Everton is risk with Origi starting. It means either bench or a lesser team mate to play with-)

                      1. HMC
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        1 month, 25 days ago

                        Salah starts vs Everton. Maybe sits (if any) for Wolves

                        1. bench boost for every gamew…
                          • 4 Years
                          1 month, 25 days ago

                          Ove only said Origi will start as 1 of the front 3. That implicates one of them is benched, and i quoted Skonto Rigga post here who said which gw Salah has been rested in in prior season. And it keaces Jota in danger of not playing with better team mate or from bench. My guess is Jota starts cause Klopp wants his New players to play in the mersey side derby and not sure Jota played from start at Goodison last year. My guess is Jota, Mane and Origi.

                          1. HMC
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 11 Years
                            1 month, 25 days ago

                            Tricky as Mane already had a rest this season. Klopp usually bases it on who’s looking sharp in training.
                            Origi has done well vs Everton. It’s whether Jota starts vs his old team but I find it hard to believe Salah doesn’t play vs Everton in the derby.
                            I think CL is a non factor cause they could easily play Origi Minamino Ox and rest regular front 3.

                          2. TopBinFc
                              1 month, 25 days ago

                              Why you so sure Origi starts?

                          3. Bennerman
                            • 3 Years
                            1 month, 25 days ago

                            Surely this is worthy of an 'in my opinion'?

                            It just sounds pompous stating these things as god-given facts

                            1. Bennerman
                              • 3 Years
                              1 month, 25 days ago

                              I'm on about "Salah starts v Everton" etc. Weird way this ZX Spectrum website organises these conversations

                            2. HMC
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 11 Years
                              1 month, 25 days ago

                              Not you again. Nothing better to do?

                              Surely by me having a conversation it’s already just my opinion and I don’t need to caveat it by saying oh btw that’s just my opinion.

                              Not like I was having a go at Bench Boost above saying I know I’m right….geez

                  • Atimis
                    • 5 Years
                    1 month, 25 days ago

                    Having some hard time choosing :

                    1) Chilwell Raph Mbeumo to Alonso Jota Gilmour -8
                    2) Raph Chilwell to Jota Lamptey -4
                    3) Chilwell to Alonso

                    1. TopBinFc
                        1 month, 25 days ago

                        3

                    2. Root
                      • 10 Years
                      1 month, 25 days ago

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                      f off

                    3. Flynny
                      • 6 Years
                      1 month, 25 days ago

                      Evening....what move would you look to make here please? 0.5mitb. 1ft

                      Thinking a simple dias to alonso. And then mbeumo out transfer after. Thanks

                      Ramsdale
                      Taa James cancelo dias (livra)
                      Salah jota raphinha (mbeumo normann)
                      Kane antonio king

                      1. Bennerman
                        • 3 Years
                        1 month, 25 days ago

                        This is a great week for saving a transfer in my opinion, deadline is here before you know it. I'd just wait and then sort it out

                        1. TopBinFc
                            1 month, 25 days ago

                            Yeah good point, and alot of players may be rested

                      2. balint84
                        • 5 Years
                        1 month, 25 days ago

                        Jesus or Jimenez?

                        1. Weak Become Heros
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 3 Years
                          1 month, 25 days ago

                          No Jimi, one more nice fixture then they drop massively.

                          1. TopBinFc
                              1 month, 25 days ago

                              Yeah, I'm keeping one more GW then transfer out

                        2. Norco
                          • 7 Years
                          1 month, 25 days ago

                          2FT not sure what to do:

                          1. Saka > Bowen
                          2. Foden > Jota
                          3. Jimenez > Wilson

                          1. g40steve
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 3 Years
                            1 month, 25 days ago

                            Think I am doing 2 look above.

                          2. TopBinFc
                              1 month, 25 days ago

                              Bowen didn't start today, Newcastle so poor and Foden may be back

                              1. Norco
                                • 7 Years
                                1 month, 25 days ago

                                Yeah I think I could atleast ship out Saka for someone or Jimenez.

                                I want Jota but Foden also has juicy fixtures.

                                1. TopBinFc
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Saka scored at weekend, unless he is injured, I'd keep Jimi ome more week

                                    1. Norco
                                      • 7 Years
                                      1 month, 25 days ago

                                      He did go off injured but looked great. Might have just been his day

                                      1. Baps hunter
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 4 Years
                                        1 month, 25 days ago

                                        He has Everton, Leeds and Norwich soon. My plan was to sell him, but he has been basically unlucky before today (compared to ESR at least) and he is capable to get returns. So I am not happy to ditch him now.

                            • Slitherene
                              • 3 Years
                              1 month, 25 days ago

                              Roll over the FT's?

                              Sanchez ¦ Steele
                              TAA Cancelo Rudiger Reguilon Livra
                              Salah Son Jota Gallagher
                              Vardy
                              ¦ Mbeumo Dennis Davis

                              2 FT, 0.2 ITB

                            • Weak Become Heros
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 3 Years
                              1 month, 25 days ago

                              Anything on why Bowen didn’t start?

                              1. Angelic upstart
                                • 3 Years
                                1 month, 25 days ago

                                A rest, he's played almost ever game this season

                                1. TopBinFc
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Funny time to rest him in huge game?

                                    1. RogDog_jimmy
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 1 Year
                                      1 month, 25 days ago

                                      Went to a back 5 so there was one less attacking spot - makes sense it was Bowen who they’ll likely need for most games from now out.

                                      Fornals and Bennie rested in Europe mid week.

                                    2. DARE TO BISCAN
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 3 Years
                                      1 month, 25 days ago

                                      Could be looking to Arsenal Cup it. Beat the dross, hope it's enough for 4th

                                  • Dammit_182
                                      1 month, 25 days ago

                                      Yea, probably do him good resting up this week before the Christmas chaos

                                  • bench boost for every gamew…
                                    • 4 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Moyes often does this away to City, Liverpool etc. Tactical. So Bowen now had a rest is good for him, i am maybe thinking buying him and sell Antonio, might just leave him too. Double from 16 seems good. Arsenal seems to have a pattern with cs Vs lesser teams, but struggles Vs the best teams. West ham are in the second category. Also having both Bowen and Antonio is a differential in itself.

                                2. Tomas_brolin
                                  • 3 Years
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  What’s the better use of a FT this week?:

                                  A. Dias to Alonso/James
                                  B. ESR to raphinha for the next 2 weeks

                                3. Footieboot
                                  • 1 Year
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  Guaita
                                  TAA Cancelo White Marcal Livra
                                  Salah Foden Jota Raph Gilmour
                                  Vardy Toney Antonio

                                  2FT

                                  A) Vardy + White + Marcal --> James + Alonso + Wilson -4
                                  B) Foden + White + Marcal --> James + Alonso + Mbeumo -4
                                  C) Toney + Marcal --> Davis/Locadia + James/Alonso

                                  1. BeWater
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 1 Year
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    If you are thinking of getting rid of Foden you could always get him out for Gallagher and upgrade Marcal to James for free. Or get Gundogan if you can afford it.

                                    1. Footieboot
                                      • 1 Year
                                      1 month, 25 days ago

                                      Honestly, don't wanna get rid of him but feel like switching to double Chelsea wing backs with their upcoming fixtures is a no brainer. Losing Foden hurts though. I like every player in my midfield-fwd line so I can't decide how the funds will be freed up for Chelsea defence.

                                4. matiakez
                                  • 11 Years
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  Best Saka replacement? Up to 6.5?

                                  Current mid is Salah, Jota, Mbuemo, Brownhill

                                  I'd lose Mbuemo instead if I could afford it

                                  1. Norco
                                    • 7 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Gallagher?

                                    1. matiakez
                                      • 11 Years
                                      1 month, 25 days ago

                                      Thinking its him or Bowen currently?

                                  2. Baps hunter
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 4 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    What are news about his injury? I was planning to bench him anyway this week.

                                5. Scots Gooner
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 5 Years
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  Guaita
                                  TAA / Cancelo / James / Alonso
                                  Salah (c) / Jota / B Silva / Son
                                  Wilson / Hwang

                                  Steele / Toney / Livramento / Allan

                                  Thought? Bench/bench order correct?

                                  Is it a week gamble captaincy on someone besides Salah?

                                  1. wulfrunian
                                    • 5 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Good to go.Salah.

                                  2. Qaiss
                                    • 6 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Salah is still getting those points though man

                                  3. TheTinman
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 6 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    I'm captaining Kane or Wilson. Because of Spurs rest I'll probably go Kane.

                                  4. mdm
                                    • 9 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Son

                                6. T.Henry14
                                  • 8 Years
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  2FT here , 0.1 itb

                                  Ramsdale (Foster)
                                  TAA, Cancelo, James (White, Obamidele)
                                  Salah, Son, Raphinha, Smith-Rowe (D.Luiz)
                                  Vardy, Toney, Antonio

                                  It seems that I could save the transfer for the next period.

                                  A) Obamidele --> Thomas Amartey
                                  B) Antonio ---> Wilson

                                7. The Royal Robin
                                  • 6 Years
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  Chilwell > Walker or Reguilon?

                                  Already own double Chelsea defence.

                                  1. matiakez
                                    • 11 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    I'd go Reg if you have Cancelo

                                  2. antis0cial
                                    • 5 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Reg

                                  3. wulfrunian
                                    • 5 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Walker for me

                                8. Erez Avni
                                  • 5 Years
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  Lineup ok? bench order?

                                  Ramsdale
                                  TAA Rudy Cancelo James Livra
                                  Salah Raphi Jota Son
                                  Jimenez

                                  Foster Mbuemo Broja King

                                9. barcaa7
                                  • 3 Years
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  Son and Mbeumo to Gundo and jota for free
                                  yes or no ?

                                  1. matiakez
                                    • 11 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Don't think you can ship Son before the next two

                                  2. antis0cial
                                    • 5 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    No. Why lose son before two great fixtures?

                                  3. AK_FC
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 7 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Why did you buy Son if you want to sell him now? Makes no sense.

                                10. FCSB
                                  • 5 Years
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  Rotation will probably make this decision for me but which one to bench:

                                  1. Antonio (BHA)
                                  2. Jimenez (BUR)
                                  3. Gallagher (lee)
                                  4. Raphinha (CRY)

                                  Cheers

                                  1. antis0cial
                                    • 5 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Tough one, Gallagher maybe

                                  2. Well you know, Triffic
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 11 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    None of them

                                  3. RogDog_jimmy
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 1 Year
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    I’m doing Gallagher - it was between him and Raph for me. Home/Away makes the decision I think.

                                    1. FCSB
                                      • 5 Years
                                      1 month, 25 days ago

                                      I’ve just bought him in last week…

                                      I suppose he is probably the best option isn’t he

                                      1. RogDog_jimmy
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 1 Year
                                        1 month, 25 days ago

                                        Me too! Got an assist, a blank, and now he gets a bench.

                                        No stress for me - he’s cheap.

                                11. RogDog_jimmy
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 1 Year
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  Hope everyone’s week went well!

                                  65(-4) - small green for me 111k > 87k.
                                  James & Alonso in for -4 didn’t work but I’m set up to roll easy now.

                                  Ramsdale
                                  TAA, James, Cancelo, Alonso
                                  Salah, Jota, Raphinha
                                  Vardy, Antonio, Jimenez

                                  Foster, Gallagher, Livramento, Brownhill

                                  1. FCSB
                                    • 5 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Lovely team, jealous you have Jota

                                    1. RogDog_jimmy
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 1 Year
                                      1 month, 25 days ago

                                      Have for weeks! Got him when Son “had” covid - instead of Mount and Foden who got massive hauls - nice to get the returns now.

                                12. Lord of Ings
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 6 Years
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  G2G for next week?
                                  Sanchez
                                  Taa Regullion cancelo
                                  Gundogan Jota salah(c) raphinha
                                  Pukki Toney vardy(v)
                                  Foster Livra Williams sarr*
                                  No FT
                                  1.8 ITB.

                                13. antis0cial
                                  • 5 Years
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  1.4itb, thoughts? Take a hit and get Son for Foden? Save? Benrahma to Silva?

                                  Ramsdale
                                  TAA Cancelo James Alonso
                                  Salah Foden Jota Raph
                                  Jimenez Antonio

                                  Foster Benrahma Toney Livramento

                                14. Zim0
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 3 Years
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  Quick yes or no? For transfer strategy (GW15 and 16) this currently GW14 team.
                                  Mendy
                                  James TAA Cancelo Alonso
                                  Salah Jota Foden Trossard
                                  Jesus Antonio
                                  Foster ESR Dennis Livramento

                                  GW15 Transfer: Mendy to Ramsdale
                                  GW16 Transfer Antonio to Lukaku and Trossard to Gilmour (-4)

                                  Leaves me with (for GW16)
                                  Ramsdale
                                  TAA Cancelo James Alonso
                                  Salah Jota Foden ESR
                                  Jesus Lukaku
                                  Foster Dennis Livramento Gilmour

                                15. JariL
                                  • 7 Years
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  What striker would you have with Antonio in a 4-4-2 set-up if you could pick any?

                                  1. antis0cial
                                    • 5 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Probably Lukaku when fit

                                  2. ryacoo
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 6 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Kane for now and then Ronaldo later maybe but depends on how nailed he looked under the new manager - assuming he'll start their easy fixtures

                                16. Well you know, Triffic
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 11 Years
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  Got a feeling we are going to see some fpl scenes this week when Chelsea and City defence gets rotated.

                                  1. TheTinman
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 6 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    They're so heavily owned its not a big deal. And if you haven't sorted your benches out then more fool you 😀

                                  2. RogDog_jimmy
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 1 Year
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Lol for sure.
                                    James and Cancelo benched probably.

                                  3. Little Red Lacazette
                                    • 5 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Yup, James & Cancel man likely will not play.

                                  4. matiakez
                                    • 11 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Good job Brownhill is nicely rested now..

                                17. Freshy
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 11 Years
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  Anything on Dennis injury?

                                  1. TorresMagic™
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • Has Moderation Rights
                                    • 12 Years
                                    1 month, 25 days ago

                                    Nothing freshy

                                18. ryacoo
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 6 Years
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  Is it worth selling Jimenez (BUR) to King (CHE) a week earlier than planned if it means having the funds to sell Saka to Jota?

                                  Would be 2 FTs and would bench King for Mbeumo (tot) this week

                                19. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 4 Years
                                  1 month, 25 days ago

                                  Anyone care having a stab at predicting Chelsea’s back 5 for the Watford match?? Correct me if I’m wrong but James, Rudiger, Thiago and Chalobah have all played 3 games in a week now