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Why ‘Top 50k’ should be the new ‘Top 10k’ in FPL

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For well over a decade of Fantasy Premier League (FPL), a top 10k rank finish has been the gold standard target for most of us managers. While there are some who achieve it so regularly that it probably feels more like a formality than an achievement at this point, for the mortals among us, a 10k finish has been the iconic badge of honour, the shorthand for ‘I’ve had a really good season’ and, if you’ve managed more than one, a clear demonstration that, at some point at least, you were pretty good at this game.

A top 10k finish will always be a great achievement in FPL but, as the game grows in size, it no longer represents what it used to; a highly-challenging yet achievable goal. Instead, top 10k has become a somewhat anachronistic and perhaps overly-elitist measure of managerial prowess. This article will discuss why this is the case and argue why we might need to adopt a new standard for what a ‘Top 10k’ finish used to mean and, I will argue, that this standard should be ‘Top 50k’.

The Game Has Grown

The first and most obvious argument for why we should consider reviewing the 10k standard is that the game is much, much bigger than it was when that standard was established. I had my first top 10k finish in 2012 when, I believe, there were about two million players but now, ten years on, there are over nine million. In fact, if you finish in the top 5.3 million this season, you will have beaten more managers than it took for me to win FPL in 2015.

To put it another way, a top 10k finish 10 years ago would have put you in roughly the top 0.5% of all managers whereas a top 10k finish this season would put you in the top 0.1%; there is a world of difference between those figures.

In pure probability terms, the more people that play the game, the more difficult it becomes to succeed in it or, rather, to succeed as a result of skill alone. That’s not to say that anybody ever did succeed as a result of skill alone, but with nine million opponents playing a game, it is highly likely that a good proportion of those will outperform you on the basis of luck, even if their technique is objectively worse than yours. This effect will compound the bigger the game grows.

In addition, it’s not simply the fact that there are a lot more people playing FPL now but there are also a lot more people remaining active throughout the whole season. While I don’t have access to the numbers themselves, in the past you could sense that outsized gains were achievable simply by not losing interest halfway through the season. Nowadays, those gains still exist in some form, but they are far less significant. For most people, a really good rank requires a season-long effort.

The Gap Between Serious and Casual has Narrowed

Speaking of technique, however, it would be wrong to say that skill is no longer a factor. While FPL managers have good and bad seasons by their own standards, it is no accident that those who take the game more seriously tend to do better more consistently than your average player. Indeed, there are managers and content creators within the FPL community who are having incredible seasons right now, and some are even flirting with the possibility of winning the whole game.

So skill and dedication are not dead as factors in FPL and never will be, however big the game grows but, aside from the quantitative argument detailed above, we also need to factor in the qualitative element that the skills and techniques that tend to make a good manager are no longer solely the purview of those of us who stumbled across an FPL blog a decade or so ago and stuck around for the stats tables.

Nowadays the ‘secrets’ of FPL success and the information necessary to gain an edge over rival managers are more easily accessible and more plentiful than ever before. The net effect of this is that there are not just more FPL managers playing the game but more with the toolkit required to play it well.

In totality, whether it be the number of people playing, the increased luck factor or the growing sophistication of the average player, achieving a good FPL rank is becoming an ever more challenging objective. This is why I believe we should be looking at ‘top 50k’ as the ‘new’ top 10k.

Why Not Just Stick to 10k?

The counter-argument to this might be that, even if these factors have made the game more challenging, they shouldn’t necessarily dictate how we judge success. Lots of games and sports have become more competitive over the years without the definition of ‘doing well’ being relaxed. Heaven forbid that the dog-eat-dog theatre of war that is FPL should become the domain of participation-trophies or *shudder* ‘just playing for fun’. The competitive spirit that surrounds FPL is a big part of what makes it so compulsive. However, that is not the reason why 50k should be the new 10k.

A top 10k finish was always supposed to be an exclusive club but not necessarily an ‘elite club’. The point of it was that, if you were a dedicated player, it typically remained just about achievable as a goal at least up until the business end of the season and this added a lot of engagement and motivation for that type of FPL manager.

Nowadays, unless you have an extraordinary run late on, your chances of a top 10k finish are probably more-or-less determined by the start of the final third of the season, probably even earlier. Because we don’t talk about breaking the top 50k with the same sort of reverence that we talk about breaking the top 10k, we find at this stage, a small (and ever-decreasing relative to the whole) group of managers in and around the 10k with lots to compete for followed by, well, everyone else. It’s a bit like how you might imagine the lower leagues would be without the play-offs. 

There are tens of thousands of managers in and around 50k who, for reasons explained above, should feel like they’re having a great season with everything to play for, but because our conventions and our standards of success haven’t evolved or expanded along with the game, instead these managers are probably just waiting for the season to end.

Why 50k? Well, technically we’d be best served by shifting to a percentage-based model where we’re all aiming for the top 0.5% and the target evolves automatically alongside the number of players but, probably because we look at ranks in absolute terms, that model never seems to catch on. ‘Top 50k’, on the other hand, is probably just about catchy enough to stick and, being the equivalent of ‘Top 10k’ about ten years ago relative to the number of players then and now, it should serve us for another few seasons at least, depending on how fast FPL continues to grow.

Conclusion

A top 10k finish may never not be an iconic target in FPL, particularly for us old-school managers, but it no longer means what it used to mean. The game is far bigger and more competitive than it was when ‘Top 10k’ emerged as the de facto target for serious FPL managers looking to measure themselves against more than just their mini-leagues.

A top 10k finish is now arguably closer to what a top 1k finish used to represent and there’s a reason why ‘top 1k’ was never the standard. For a competition to be compelling, targets need to be challenging but also realistically achievable for a big enough group of people so as to maintain the competitive motivation at a scale that can sustain its community. This cannot be done if those targets are too narrow, or too elitist in nature.

If you are the type of FPL manager who understands the difference between finishing 10,000 and 10,001 in the world, you will also understand why finishing in the 40,000s versus in the 50,000s or 60,000s should also matter but, right now, I’m not sure that it does and the game suffers as a result. That’s why we need to adopt the top 50k as the standard target for serious managers.

Postscript; coincidentally, yes I have just broken into the top 50k for the first time this season, I’m really not sure why you’d think that is important…


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369 Comments Post a Comment
  1. CR7 is Home
    • 4 Years
    18 days, 16 hours ago

    My original plan was to do son to KDB this week and captain him, but not sure now with Sons form and KDBs minutes.

    Could you suggest me my best moves plz? (1.4m itb, 1ft)

    Ramsdale
    Robbo TAA Candelo Alonso
    Salah (c) Son Madison Mount Saka
    Niketah
    Subs - Dubra CTaylor Broja Gelhardt

    1. Rassi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      18 days, 16 hours ago

      You could just roll. Unless FH37 ofc.

      1. CR7 is Home
        • 4 Years
        18 days, 16 hours ago

        Thanks bro no FH left

    2. Drumandbaines123
      • 1 Year
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Ramsdale to Ederson with the money in the bank? Arsenal don't look like keeping clean sheets atm. Or just roll.

    3. ViperStripes
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Keep Son, perhaps even TC

  2. Fernandito
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    18 days, 16 hours ago

    Ramsdale
    TAA Cancelo James
    Son Salah Saka Coutinho Havertz
    Watkins Pukki

    Lewis Holgate Broja Kilman

    A Save FT (Have 11 DGW), no BB
    B Havertz to Foden
    C James & Havertz to Dias & Forden (-4)
    D Havertz & Broja to Mahrez & 4.5 (-4)

    1. golfboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      18 days, 16 hours ago

      I think you are fine to save FT

  3. _Ninja_
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    18 days, 16 hours ago

    Sa -> Schmeichel worth a hit? Will FH37

    Sa
    James TAA Laporte
    Salah Son Saka Mount Countinho
    Jesus Nketiah

    Dubravka Mateta KWP Doherty

  4. golfboy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    18 days, 16 hours ago

    What do you think about this FH team then chaps?

    Pickford (3.9)
    Matip TAA Cancelo (Dier AitN)
    Son Salah KDB Gordon Kulu
    Jesus Nketiah (4.6)

    1. Rassi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      It seems ok.

    2. FourLokoLeipzig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Yeah, seems ok, but I think I’d want at least one Chelsea player despite rotation risk - easily the nicest pair of fixtures among the top teams, and it’s not like they have nothing to play for yet

  5. ryacoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    A) Saiss to Laporte (bench Ramsey)
    B) Martinelli/Kane to Son/Richarlison -4 (start Ramsey)

    1. golfboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      B I guess but not sure I like Kane for a -4

  6. sirmorbach
    • 5 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    What would you lads do with the following lot? I've got two ft and will play my remaining chip (FT) next week. All transfers seem sideways honestly, so I'd love yo hear your thoughts!

    Schmeichel
    TAA, Cancelo, Laporte, Alonso, Matip
    Salah, KDB, Son, Mount
    Nketiah

    Pukki, Dewsbury-Hall, 4.5

    Matip to Tsimikas, Pukki to Richarlison maybe? Mount to Saka? KDH to Gordon and bench Matip?

    1. golfboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Tough, you have a good team for this week. KDH to Gordon and put as first sub in case of a no show? (unlikely I know)

      1. sirmorbach
        • 5 Years
        18 days, 15 hours ago

        Thanks, mate, I think I might do just that! Would you keep Mount or bring in Saka instead?

        1. golfboy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          18 days, 15 hours ago

          I reckon keep Mount, or gamble on Maddison if they go out of Europe?

          1. sirmorbach
            • 5 Years
            18 days, 15 hours ago

            Lovely, that is very helpful indeed! Good luck, sir!

  7. DavvaMC
    • 1 Year
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    If you had Son would you keep for this DGW?

    I plan to FH in 37, was thinking of perhaps Son > KDB?

    Thanks

    1. golfboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      I think I'd keep, wish I had him

      1. ViperStripes
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        18 days, 15 hours ago

        ^ this

    2. Boz
      • 9 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Keep

    3. Paulo67
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      18 days, 14 hours ago

      I’d keep son

  8. The Mantis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    Any injuries / things to note about KDB last night?

    1. Rassi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Some City fans think it was his worst performance for them. I think he is still a lock to start both DGW matches.

    2. AzzaroMax99
      • 5 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Not a captain material deffo.

      1. Rassi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        18 days, 15 hours ago

        Yeah, my armband went back to Salah this morning. Now watch KDB go ballistic.

    3. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Maybe wait on press conference
      Did look unusually tired despite the rest at the weekend

  9. ViperStripes
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    Options to get in Son with just a 4pt hit and would probably TC instead of KDB.
    a) DCL & Kulu > 4.5m bench striker & Son - 0.2m spare and relies on Kilman playing for 11 DGW players or play Toney in his SGW
    b) Kane & Kulu > Richarlison & Son - 0.9 spare, but ditching Kane is scary, but probably better option with Rich's Double Double.

    c) Do something else and go without Son.

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      If you don't have a FH in 37 B is best.

      1. ViperStripes
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        18 days, 15 hours ago

        Only got my TC left and currently on KDB

  10. AzzaroMax99
    • 5 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    Any news on Richa’s suspension?

    1. Rassi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      No

      1. thomashl
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        18 days, 15 hours ago

        But he apparently struggles with a lower foot issue, according to goodisonnews. 50% chance

      2. thomashl
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        18 days, 15 hours ago

        Reply fail but still

  11. TimoTime
    • 2 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    G2G?

    Ramsdale,
    TAA, Cancelo, Laporte, Alonso
    (S)alah, Son, Havertz, Saka, Kulu
    Nketiah

    (Dubravka, Saiss, Broja, Hwang)

    0ITB - FH37

    1. Boz
      • 9 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      G2g. Nice team!

  12. pundit of punts
    • 9 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    RMBBT 😀

    Schmeichel - Pickford
    TAA - Cancelo - Alonso - Cash - White
    Salah - Foden - Mount - Saka - Barnes
    Werner - Richarlison - Nketiah

    1. Rassi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      8/10

    2. Boly Would
      • 5 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      What's the latest on White?

    3. Boz
      • 9 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Not a fan of Werner but limited options for forwards. Maybe Watkins?

  13. thomashl
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    Seems a lot of people missed this (Richa allegedly 50/50 to miss the Leicester game):

    https://www.goodisonnews.com/2022/05/04/everton-ace-richarlison-doubtful-for-leicester-city-premier-league-clash/?amp

    1. ViperStripes
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Ooh that throows a cat amongst my pigeons, was seriously considering DCL > Richarlison

    2. Skonto Rigga
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 4 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      They're quoting Dinnery as the source - and he's not a source. He's seen him coming off injured on Sunday, added him to his injury and bans database with a percentage, and now some two-bit blog has reported it as fact.

      Lampard said after the match that it was cramp: https://youtu.be/eoTds7VKFpg?t=398

      1. Rassi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        18 days, 15 hours ago

        This. It is just BD guessing.

    3. ryacoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      That article's source is Ben Dinnery, whose website now has Rich down as 100% fit with a quote about him just having cramp

    4. cutch
      • 7 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      On the same website, today: https://www.goodisonnews.com/2022/05/05/injury-expert-early-everton-team-news-v-leicester-three-players-ruled-out-richarlison-update/

      Here, you can read: "He does, however, share that Richarlison has a 100 per cent chance of making the game after he went off with cramp against Chelsea." ("He" is the same Ben Dinnery of the other sources)

      1. cutch
        • 7 Years
        18 days, 15 hours ago

        Again on the same website, maybe we should be more worried about this: https://www.goodisonnews.com/2022/05/04/police-set-to-investigate-richarlison-smoke-bomb-incident-from-everton-defeat-of-chelsea/

      2. thomashl
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        18 days, 14 hours ago

        Ah, thanks for the update mate! Clearly I should read goodisonnews daily.

  14. Gazza2000
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    Would you go with Matip over Dias/Laporte for this DGW?

    1. Rassi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      I think City is more likely to get two clean sheets but with Matip you save some funds for other upgrades.

      1. Gazza2000
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        18 days, 15 hours ago

        It’s the minutes I’m worried about after last night, do you think Dias and Laporte will play both games?

        1. Rassi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          18 days, 15 hours ago

          I think they will.

    2. Boz
      • 9 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Prefer City for this DGW for sure

  15. Boz
    • 9 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    Considering rolling the FT. Any ideas? BB36, no FH

    Schmeichel, Foster
    TAA, Matip, Cancelo, Laporte, James
    Salah, Son, Coutinho, Mount, KDH
    Nketiah, Pukki, Joao Pedro

    1FT, 1.0itb

    Thanks

    1. JT11fc
      • 3 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      No big issues there, save FT

    2. Gazza2000
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Save mate

  16. Atimis
    • 5 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    Which one sounds best ?

    1. Gordon/Gray Son Jesus -4

    2. KDB Kulu Pukki

    3. Son Foden Pukki

    1. JT11fc
      • 3 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      3

    2. Gazza2000
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      3

    3. dabber7
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      3

  17. bitm2007
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    Foster
    TAA, Cancelo, Alonso, James
    Salah, Mount, Son, Kulu
    Pukki, Watkins, Dennis

    Schmeichel, Matip, Gordon, Watkins

    0.6m ITB, 2 FT, BB GW36, FH GW37

    I was going to go James & Mount to Laporte & Foden but after playing 120 minutes each last night I'm having second thoughts. Any better moves ?

  18. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    I think this discussion of players resting and what not has gone over the top recently.

    Managers will try to play their best team every game. This takes into account the fatigue of the players and the turnaround. It's really that simple. If a player is in form and is fresh, they play. Look at Jesus, burst into life vs WAT and has played 4 games in 10 days.

    All this talk about trying to predict Liverpool's lineup now as well. They'll take each game one at a time. Who's fit and who's in form?
    As a result I think with a 4 day turnaround it's Salah, Mane, Diaz, Robbo, TAA vs Spurs. And then depending how that goes and who's in good shape, they decide for AVL what to do.

    City similar imo. Freshest team for NEW - Foden, Mahrez, Cancelo, KdB and then decide how players are doing for the midweek game. Of course, managers are privy to more info than us in terms of players' condition - if KdB and Foden don't start, it's likely a result of their physical condition not being right for the game.

    1. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Similar with how many speculated on massive rotation for Chelsea this last GW and yet everyone key in FPL still started (Alonso, James, Havertz, Mount, Werner) - it really is hard to predict.

    2. The Mentaculus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Yeah for the most part I'm not all that confident second guessing who's going to be rested, so unless a manager clearly signals that, I tend to just pick who I want & hope for the best. Every now & them I'll see my players benched, but I feel like the worse outcome would be avoiding someone I wanted simply due to expected rest then seeing them start & haul

    3. fusen
      • 10 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      It's the whole start from the worst case scenario as then you're less likely to be upset if it happens. You get people saying the entire team will be rested, as then you don't look bad when any of your team doesn't play.

    4. thomashl
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      18 days, 14 hours ago

      Isn’t it just the same as it is every season (slightly more so with more DGWs due to covid ofc)?

      But yeah, broadly agree - pick the best players (that you reckon will play) and that’s FPL basically

  19. JT11fc
    • 3 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    Whos the most explosive midfielder for gw36 and 37?
    Have Salah.
    Any price

    1. BeWater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Son

      1. JT11fc
        • 3 Years
        18 days, 14 hours ago

        Thanks

    2. Cojones of Destiny
      • 4 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Son/Mahrez/Mane

      1. JT11fc
        • 3 Years
        18 days, 14 hours ago

        Tempted by Mahrez for sure

  20. Jimbo-Jones
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    FH37 but considering a mini-WC for BB36.
    I don't usually take hits at all so fairly nervy/fun - having terrible season at 300k rank so fancied going for it.
    I do understand that essentially only 2GW (3 games) for the hit to pay back!

    Thoughts on below moves for -12:

    Sa > Schmeichel
    James > Keane
    Raph > KDB
    Kane > Jesus
    Broja > Nketiah

    Would give me:
    Schmeichel Foster
    White Rudi Keane TAA Cancelo
    Saka Mount KDB Salah Ramsey
    Mateta Nketiah Jesus

    1. Rassi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Just Sa > Schmeichel and Broja > Nketiah for me.

    2. JT11fc
      • 3 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      I think I would do James to Laporte/Dias and get one of Nacho/Richy up top

  21. House Frey Wedding Planner
    • 3 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    What's the best option here? Plan to FH37.

    Schmeichel, Pope
    Robbo, Cancelo, James, Cedric, Schar
    Mane, Saka, Barnes, Mount, Havertz
    Kane, Pukki, Broja

    2FT, 0.5itb

    A - Kane, Barnes, Pope to KDB, Richarlison and Foster (-4)
    B - Kane, Barnes, Schar to KDB, Nketiah and Dias/Laporte (-4)
    C - Kane, Barnes, Schar to any city midfielder except KDB, Richarlison and any city defender (-4)

    Or are there better alternatives? Can't afford to do Kane and Barnes to KDB and Richarlison on its own.

    Cheers!

    1. OptimusBlack
      • 9 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      C with Mahrez & Cancelo !!?

  22. fusen
    • 10 Years
    18 days, 15 hours ago

    Although this article mentions it, I don't think it puts enough emphasis on so many FPL players simply copying the 'content creators' doing well.

    Lets Talk FPL, FPL Focal and FPL Mate are all either doing well (roughly 20k) or extremely well (sub 200) in the world.

    Their viewing figures are in the tens of thousands.

    You then have the official FPL twitter account with 2 million subscribers which sweets out "FPL pros" tips every day or so, telling players who to get and who to captain.

    I don't think it really matters if you've got 5 million players or 10 million. When the "scene" has become so reliant on being told exactly what to do, the game obviously becomes nothing like what it used to.

    Take away all these sources of "just do this and you should do well" and I reckon most of the 9 million would just quite playing like what used to happen with 3 million players.

    1. Rassi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Indeed.

  23. TopBinFC
      18 days, 15 hours ago

      Rate my WC please;

      Ederson
      TAA, Cancelo, Matip
      Salah (c), Son, Saka, Gordon, Foden
      Richarlison, Pukki

      Bench all fodder basically.

      Have enough to do Pukki to Watkins in 37 and FH 38?

      What ya all think?

      1. Malinwa
        • 5 Years
        18 days, 15 hours ago

        Solid! GtG as well

        1. TopBinFC
            18 days, 15 hours ago

            Cheers

        2. OptimusBlack
          • 9 Years
          18 days, 15 hours ago

          Foden played 120 minutes yesterday

          1. TopBinFC
              18 days, 15 hours ago

              Do you think he doesnt play the weekend then?

              1. Rohirrims
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                18 days, 15 hours ago

                At the end he did look knackered. Doubt he starts both games and would probably think he gets benched in GW37 as well.

              2. dabber7
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 1 Year
                18 days, 15 hours ago

                He looked absoutely out on his feet last night.

          2. dabber7
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            18 days, 15 hours ago

            FWIW, I think I prefer Nketiah over Pukki.

        3. Malinwa
          • 5 Years
          18 days, 15 hours ago

          What would you do??
          1ft and 1.2itb. BB in 36. Will be using FH in 37.

          Ederson Foster
          TAA Robbo Cancelo Alonso White*
          Salah Havertz Saka Kulusevski Gordon
          Watkins Pukki Dennis

          1. TopBinFC
              18 days, 15 hours ago

              Havertz to Foden / Mahrez and youre gtg

              1. Malinwa
                • 5 Years
                18 days, 15 hours ago

                Cheers!

              2. Cojones of Destiny
                • 4 Years
                18 days, 15 hours ago

                this

                1. Malinwa
                  • 5 Years
                  18 days, 15 hours ago

                  And if white is not fit?

                  1. TopBinFC
                      18 days, 15 hours ago

                      Sorry didnt see you are BB. Maybe white to Feminia or Mykolenko if ruled out.

            • Cojones of Destiny
              • 4 Years
              18 days, 15 hours ago

              Chasing in ML thoughts on this move:
              Weg + Jota + Havertz to Jesus + Mahrez + Diaz -8 ?

              1. TopBinFC
                  18 days, 15 hours ago

                  If I had Jota I'd keep him, likely to get good mins this GW.

                  1. Cojones of Destiny
                    • 4 Years
                    18 days, 15 hours ago

                    its his form and gametime in past few games that worries

                • Holmes
                  • 8 Years
                  18 days, 15 hours ago

                  Jota to Mahrez probably not worth a hit

                  1. TopBinFC
                      18 days, 15 hours ago

                      This

                • TopBinFC
                    18 days, 15 hours ago

                    I see alot buying in Nketiah, do we think he plays both games, IMO I doubt it.

                    1. Sterling Archer
                      • 5 Years
                      18 days, 15 hours ago

                      Is anyone actually guaranteed to play both?

                      1. TopBinFC
                          18 days, 15 hours ago

                          Yes, loads, Saka, Odegaard fro Arsenal, Son, Kane and loads for Spurs.

                      2. Cojones of Destiny
                        • 4 Years
                        18 days, 15 hours ago

                        think he plays first game and based on his play Arteta will decide to play him Laca in the second

                      3. Rohirrims
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 6 Years
                        18 days, 15 hours ago

                        Unless he has a calamitous showing in the Leeds game I'm pretty sure he starts the derby.

                    2. patricio33
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 3 Years
                      18 days, 15 hours ago

                      What to do? I have 1FT, 0.3 ITB, but don't see any good single trades.

                      Ramsdale
                      Robbo, Royal, Cancelo
                      Barnes, Saka, Salah, Son, Rodrigo
                      Mateta, Kane

                      Subs: Sanchez, Ait Nouri, Broja, White

                      A: Hold
                      B: Kane, White -> Jesus, TAA (-4)
                      C: Kane, White -> Richarlison, TAA (-4)
                      B: Kane, Broja -> Jesus, Richarlison (-4)
                      E: Broja, White -> Nketiah, Mykolenko (-4)
                      F: Other (please suggest)

                    3. hobfpl
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      18 days, 15 hours ago

                      What does everyone think about KDB and Foden now that they have been knocked out of the champions league ?
                      Surely they will play all games now for the league?
                      What do ye guys think ?

                      1. patricio33
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 3 Years
                        18 days, 15 hours ago

                        KDB should be nailed, but not as sure about Foden.

                      2. TopBinFC
                          18 days, 15 hours ago

                          I would have thought so but some on here think Foden misses the weekend. I think he is one of citys most important players and they need strongest 11 in every game now.

                        • Bavarian
                          • 4 Years
                          18 days, 15 hours ago

                          Foden is nailed, he got his rest against Watford

                        • hobfpl
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          18 days, 14 hours ago

                          I have to go aggressive in my mini league for the final few gameweeks.
                          1st 2nd and 3rd have the following same players in common:
                          Alonso, TAA, Salah, Saka, Mount.
                          Think i need to roll the dice here inorder to catch 1st and 2nd.
                          I need to transfer out some of the common players and hope to catch them on points.
                          Who would ye move out and for who ?

                      3. Frank Koscielny
                        • 5 Years
                        18 days, 15 hours ago

                        Are there any articles highlighting the pros and cons between free hit GW36 vs 37?

                        I have 11 DGW players and 1 FT. Not sure when to use FH especially considering I still have BB chip left.

                        1. Rohirrims
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 6 Years
                          18 days, 15 hours ago

                          First decide which week you have the best 15 players and lock down the BB. Then from the remaining 2 weeks decide which line up looks the weakest and FH in that week.

                          1. Frank Koscielny
                            • 5 Years
                            18 days, 15 hours ago

                            Cheers!

                      4. Hansel
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        18 days, 15 hours ago

                        A) Saiss, Kulu, Broja (bench) -> Cancelo, Gordon, 4.5
                        B) Saiss, Kulu, Kane -> Cancelo, Mahrez, Richarlison
                        C) Saiss, Mount, Kane -> Cancelo, Mahrez, Jesus
                        D) Saiss, Mount, Kane -> Matip, KDB, Richarlison

                        1. Hansel
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          18 days, 15 hours ago

                          E) Saiss, Kulu, Kane -> Cancelo, Foden, Jesus -4