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FPL new signings: Who is Arsenal midfielder Fabio Vieira?

Arsenal have completed the signing of Fabio Vieira after Porto confirmed they had struck an agreement for his transfer.

The 22-year-old, who has been likened to Bernardo Silva, laid on a league-high 14 assists last season and joins for a fee in the region of £34m including add-ons.

“I am very excited that we have identified and signed such a special talent. Fabio is a very creative player that will bring high quality and versatility to our attacking play.” – Mikel Arteta

“Fabio is a player with special qualities who is comfortable with the ball in the final third of the pitch.” – Arsenal technical director, Edu

With Mikel Arteta’s side sitting top of our Season Ticker over the first eight Gameweeks of 2022/23, we assess the Portuguese midfielder’s future appeal – or lack of it – in our latest Scout Report.


THE HISTORY

SeasonTeamDivisionAppsGoalsAssists
2021/22PortoPrimeira Liga27614
2020/21PortoPrimeira Liga1901
2020/21Porto BLiga Portugal 2421
2019/20PortoPrimeira Liga821
2019/20Porto BLiga Portugal 22373

Above: Fabio Vieira’s league appearances and attacking returns via Transfermarkt


Vieira has spent his entire career playing for Porto and has already won three trophies, including two league titles.

Coming through the club’s youth academy, he made his senior debut with Porto B in 2019/20 and went on to score seven goals in 23 appearances. Those displays earnt him a call up to the first-team squad, where he netted two goals in eight games to help Porto lift the title.

In 2020/21, Vieira made four further appearances for Porto B, scoring twice, before graduating to the first team permanently later that season.

However, it was 2021/22 when Vieira really came to life, as the midfielder registered six goals and a league-high 14 assists in 27 appearances as Porto completed the domestic double. In truth, he was in and out of the starting XI but finally became a regular after Luis Diaz’s departure to Liverpool in January, contributing to 11 goals in his final 12 league games. 

On the international stage, he has recorded 13 goals in 21 games for the Portugal under-21 side, for whom he picked up the Best Player award at the 2021 UEFA European Under-21 Championship.

PLAYING STYLE

“Fabio Vieira is special because he can see everything with his head on the ground. He is a player who provides assists and can enter the area, score in midrange and in dead-ball situations. He’s also improved in terms of pressing orientation.

But what most surprises me is the way he displays his quality when many teams use a low block on the pitch, and he can decipher what the game demands. These are the players that are worth a lot of money.” – Manuel Tulipa, the Maritimo Under-23 manager who coached Porto’s U15, U17 and U19 sides from 2017 until 2020

Vieira has played in a number of positions at Porto and is versatile enough to feature centrally or out wide on either flank.

However, he primarily operates as a second striker or a right-sided attacking midfielder, where he tends to cut in onto his stronger left foot, as his 2021/22 touch heatmap below shows.

Above: Fabio Vieira’s 2021/22 Season Heatmap, via Sofa Score


His ability to thread well-weighted passes to runners in behind the defensive line is apparent in this YouTube highlights reel, as is his growing reputation for being something of a set-piece specialist.

It’s also worth noting that he isn’t afraid to take on a shot from distance, with 29 of his 46 goal attempts in 2021/22 arriving outside the penalty box.

NameMins per goalMins per shotMins per shot in the boxMins per shot on targetMins per chance created
Saka272.830.941.796.844
Odegaard401.653133.9133.937
Smith Rowe197.149.365.785.766
Martinelli316.536.543.2118.756
Nketiah180.431.14169.469
Vieira221.528.978.2102.239

* League only


While it’s worth adding a ‘Primeira Liga’ levy on Vieira’s underlying numbers, he does come out well when comparing his minutes per goal, shot and chance created stats against his new team-mates.

However, as we touched on above, many of his efforts arrive outside of the box, which in turn affects his ability to consistently hit the target.

WHERE VIEIRA FITS IN AT ARSENAL AND IS HE WORTH BUYING IN FPL?

Due to his versatility, Arsenal will be able to use Vieira in a number of ways, but it will be interesting to see how Arteta plans to accommodate his new signing and Martin Odegaard in the same XI, given that they both traditionally thrive in very similar areas of the pitch.

Above: Martin Odegaard’s 2021/22 Touch Heatmap

Arteta told Sky Sports back in 2020 about the need for more creativity in his squad, and Vieira’s addition appears to be adding strength in depth as Arsenal return to the Europa League next term.

Look at the players that we had in the past at this club in those positions. You go back to Cazorla, to Rosicky, to Arshavin when he played there, to Ramsey when he played there, to Mkhitaryan when he came in. Even Jack Wilshere used to play in those pockets all the time.

That is a lot of players who are now not here. We have to renew that cycle. They are a big part of what any squad needs.” – Mikel Arteta

The introduction of five substitutions in 2022/23 also means squad players are far more likely to play a more significant role, while adding another creative player to the ranks could benefit Bukayo Saka, who was heavily relied upon last season and appeared in all 38 Premier League matches.

Obviously, at this point, it’s a bit speculative but it does have the potential to cause Fantasy bosses a few headaches, with Vieira, Odegaard, Saka, Gabriel Martinelli and Emile Smith Rowe competing for three positions behind the forward in a 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 shape.

Due to that uncertainty around Arsenal’s set-up, a ‘wait and see’ approach is best advised for Vieira, especially given that the more secure Saka is available for those managers looking to tap into the Gunners’ excellent opening fixtures – albeit at a higher cost.

However, a total of 20 goal contributions across the 2021/22 campaign really does show the quality Vieira has in the final third, and he may well be someone we can target in the midfield category further down the line. And by that point, he may also have had a price drop or two – further enhancing his credentials.


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  1. KanyeWest
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 days, 19 hours ago

    Is Fabio Viera related to Patrick?

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 days, 19 hours ago

      No, and that's not how it's spelt.

    2. Dr. Rog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      Patrick Vieira's mother was Portuguese - which is why he has that spelling rather than the Italian spelling of Vieri that a few other famous footballers have, and Viera which is just a Spanish word.

      Ready made chant for Fabio - think he will do well but ultimately is going have the "smith-rowe" role covering the odegaard & saka on the right side. Expect a series of 20 minute cameos.

    3. The Knights Template
      • 8 Years
      2 days, 16 hours ago

      Patrick Stewart? I don’t think so.

  2. The Mentaculus
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    2 days, 18 hours ago

    Interesting piece in the Athletic on City's wing option if Sterling leaves. Seems like they're hoping for a breakout season from Cole Palmer:

    "City’s wide options would be Phil Foden and Jack Grealish on the left and Mahrez and Cole Palmer on the right...

    At the age of 20, Palmer has a big season ahead. He made 11 senior appearances last season but that figure would probably have grown had he not picked up an injury in January that kept him out for several months.

    Part of the reason that City were comfortable in letting Ferran Torres leave was that they believe Palmer, on the back of what they had seen in the first half of last season, has a higher ceiling than the Spaniard, who they did rate highly.

    Back then, Palmer had a good chance of getting into the team as a false nine (or even as an actual No 9, as he demonstrated by switching between the roles in a game against Everton) but next season his best bet is on the right wing. And City do expect him to play a lot more next season."

    https://theathletic.com/3372919/2022/06/20/sterling-jesus-transfer-chelsea-arsenal/

    Assuming no new signings, would anyone be tempted to stick him on the bench at 4.5m? Or just one to keep an eye on?

    1. Nostalgic Thuggery
      • 9 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      its not his price ... he takes a city spot

      1. The Mentaculus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        2 days, 18 hours ago

        Yeah ok, if you're on Cancelo-Laporte-Håland then he's not for you I guess. But City trios are seriously expensive so I don't imagine everyone is full up

        1. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 days, 18 hours ago

          You might start off with 2 and soon decide you want a third. You'd be stuck or need a hit if a cheapie is clogging up your squad.

          1. The Mentaculus
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            2 days, 18 hours ago

            I cant really see that happening with my squad tbh, unless maybe KDB gets injured & I want a little run with Gundogan (if he's even there still). If starting with Håland & Cancelo (& Liv/Spurs assets), there's no way I'm cramming KDB or Foden in there too. But I guess in many ways Palmer is better as a wait & see anyway - not much gained by having his pts sitting on my bench as opposed to just bringing him in later if he starts getting mins & returns

    2. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      I'd follow him with great interest, but he wouldn't be a good use of a City spot. It would be like picking Elliott or Jones from Liverpool.

    3. notlob legin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      One for the future - too many other City assets that are better options in my opinion. Interesting article though

    4. Mixed Bag
      • 5 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      For me, it makes Mahrez more appealing.

      You don't want a City player warming your bench.

      1. The Mentaculus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        2 days, 18 hours ago

        Yeah this state should boost Mahrez and/or Grealish's (esp if Foden moves to the right) mins significantly

    5. NateDog
      • 1 Year
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      May be an interesting one to keep an eye on. He has always been on the edge of that first team while other youth prospects seem to be regularly in and out of the bench. The Athletic also said a week or so ago that Foden would like to play on the right so I suppose that gives them an extra option there while Palmer may become acclimatised to the first team.

      1. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 days, 18 hours ago

        I think the comparison with Foden is important. Pep has praised him as bigger than Pele, yet in his first season n the first team, he was used very sparingly indeed.

  3. Chilli Heatwave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    2 days, 18 hours ago

    Would this be enough to put you off odegaard? Was considering him from the opening set of fixtures

    1. CONNERS
      • 3 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      He may get reduced minutes, but no way he loses his place.

    2. Dr. Rog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      Very likely to become Captain, and completely nailed in my view.

      Fabio will play the last 20 minutes of most games, and start Europa and cup competitions.

    3. notlob legin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      Giving me second thoughts. Odegaard is in my initial draft as I think he'll be made club captain this season, but this transfer could limit his playing time significantly

      1. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 days, 18 hours ago

        He's in my draft too. Inclined to keep him there, but point taken.

    4. The Mentaculus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      No I would be pretty confident in Ødegaard starting all the initial games, alongside or ahead of Vieira

    5. NateDog
      • 1 Year
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      I think Odegaard will still play but the question is where and what his role would be. The Athletic pointed out that Vieira significantly improved his defensive numbers in the last season (something that Conceição wanted from him) and that it's possible he may be used in Xhaka's role, or he may dovetail with Odegaard ahead of Partey. Odegaard was extremely impressive last season but seemed to be an assist-the-assister type more often than not but he created a lot of chances. I'd see how things go during preseason to see if we get an idea of his exact role

  4. CONNERS
    • 3 Years
    2 days, 18 hours ago

    In case you were wondering, 'Vieira' is the portuguese word for 'Scallop'.

    1. The Mentaculus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      Delicious!

    2. Chilli Heatwave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      Sounds a bit fishy to me.

    3. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      Thanks, I've been spending all morning knee-deep in a Portuguese dictionary 😉

    4. The Knights Template
      • 8 Years
      2 days, 16 hours ago

      Potato scallop? Is there anything better to bring to a feast? I don’t think so!

  5. JRD
    • 5 Years
    2 days, 18 hours ago

    minamino 2 as monaco??

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      Huh? He is due to sign for Monaco, fee about 15M.

  6. Mixed Bag
    • 5 Years
    2 days, 18 hours ago

    Have there ever been any interviews done with someone that works directly on the game?

    I've not read anything but it'd be really interesting to know how they go about updating everything, like the pricing and any rule changes.

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      No, they make lie The Wizard of Oz.

    2. Nostalgic Thuggery
      • 9 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      it is school project in India

    3. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 days, 13 hours ago

      Probably in their contract that they can't. Quite a secretive organisation, can't even give us an estimated release date.

  7. Andy_Social
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    2 days, 18 hours ago

    I'm watching videos with dudes reckoning Salah and Son will be forwards this year. If they are, and with huge price increases, doesn't that put you off? Losing a point per goal AND the clean sheet point adds up.

    1. notlob legin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      I think they'll both remain midfielders

    2. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      And Son - will he match his achievements of last season? I think not. Although I expect Spurs to have a great season and finish a comfortable third, this time Kane will play the whole season with a smile, and Kulusevski will be there taking his share of the points too. Last season Son had the first half of the season to himself, virtually.

      1. notlob legin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 days, 18 hours ago

        Agreed - to me it's Kane or Kulu from Spurs attack this season - I'm actually toying with Haaland and Kane as not many will have them both

    3. NateDog
      • 1 Year
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      I only see a change like this happening if we get a big update and just have a general set of attackers rather than mids and forwards (which I don't see happening). If you change Salah and Son then you have to change Martinelli, Saka, Grealish, Foden, Bowen, Benrahma, Sancho, Elanga, Diaz, etc. Far too many changes and it'll leave people with only 3 spaces to choose the most popular attackers from and not many interesting options in midfield.

      1. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 days, 18 hours ago

        Well, you don't have to. I can see them cherry-picking Salah and Son and leaving the rest be.

        1. NateDog
          • 1 Year
          2 days, 17 hours ago

          I just think it's a little silly if they just pick a random few, even Salah himself says he's a winger and not a forward so it doesn't make the best sense if he gets moved and others in the same role don't

          1. Andy_Social
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            2 days, 17 hours ago

            I dunno. I'm just repeating what I got off Andy of Let'sTalkFPL.

            1. NateDog
              • 1 Year
              2 days, 17 hours ago

              Ah I know, I just think it wouldn't make sense. That being said this is OfficialFPL we're talking about so not sure I should be expecting logical moves from them

        2. De has no news
          • 3 Years
          2 days, 13 hours ago

          I don't believe that Salah will be changed to a forward position as his role is RW.
          LW and RW players will remain as Midfielders as they are supporting the forward, not forwards themselves.
          Well, that's my penny's worth anyway.

    4. The Mentaculus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      2 days, 17 hours ago

      Can't really be bothered thinking about it unless it definitely happens tbh. Complete overhaul of strategy required

    5. zeslinguer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 days, 17 hours ago

      wasn't there an article on here not long ago saying Jota would've scored more as a fwd than mid last year?

      1. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 days, 17 hours ago

        Forwards can make up in baps what they'd lose in goal/CS points, but I'd have thought that Salah gets max baps so often the net result would be negative. Dunno, someone will crunch the numbers, no doubt.

      2. RedLightning
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 11 Years
        2 days, 13 hours ago

        Jota would have scored 159 as a forward compared to his 175 as a mid.
        His bonus points would have increased by 13, but that wouldn't have compensated for points lost for goals and clean sheets.
        I would expect that any midfielders who become forwards will have their prices slightly reduced.

        1. zeslinguer
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 days, 11 hours ago

          thanks, I misremembered the article.

    6. Monty the Magpie
      • 4 Years
      2 days, 17 hours ago

      Whether it happens or not I wish they'd be more transparent with their model. It wouldn't hurt them, just one summer, to knuckle down and figure out a pricing structure to single out each position for it's own merit. I mean it's not like we're all a pack of divs that don't know the difference between a DM and winger.

    7. CONNERS
      • 3 Years
      2 days, 17 hours ago

      As Natedog has pointed out, more or less any players forming a front three will have to be re-classified on this logic, regardless of their actual role.

      It would leave such a small pool of viable midfield picks as to make it unworkable.

  8. notlob legin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 days, 18 hours ago

    I've read quite a few posts over the closed season where most seem to be backing wing backs rather than center backs for their initial teams.
    My view is a combination of both will serve best this season - wing backs are more likely to get attacking points but also more likely to get subbed off early.
    My plan is to play 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 this season with 2 wingbacks (TAA, Cancello, James, Chilwell, Robertson etc.) and 2 center backs (undecided on who yet)
    What are your thoughts?

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      I've been saying the same thing. Based on last season's prices, I think it's a 5-/50 call. However, if wingbacks get a significant price increase and central defenders don't, I'll be veering towards the likes of Dias, Laporte VVD, Davies and Gabriel.

      1. notlob legin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 days, 18 hours ago

        Same thinking - I think there'll be some good value for money in central defenders this season

    2. NateDog
      • 1 Year
      2 days, 17 hours ago

      I think I agree, I'm hoping to go Robbo, Cancelo, Chilwell then probably Jansson and another CB.

      1. notlob legin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 days, 17 hours ago

        Playing 5 at the back?

        1. NateDog
          • 1 Year
          2 days, 17 hours ago

          Jansson would just be rotated in and out depending on fixtures / availability of the rest, right now I'm more likely to go 3-5-2 or 3-4-3 than 4/5 at the back

      2. AnotherTinkerman
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        2 days, 15 hours ago

        I have those 3 pencilled in too... with Tomiyasu and Fofana as it stands (assuming both are priced at 4.5m)
        They rotate very nicely up to the winter break

        1. NateDog
          • 1 Year
          2 days, 13 hours ago

          Very keen on Fofana if he's 4.5, Leicester's high xGc last season was an outlier looking at recent seasons and he's been excellent, also a decent threat at setpieces

    3. The Mentaculus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      2 days, 17 hours ago

      Its not enough to put me off Robertson & Cancelo initially. Open to the idea of CBs from other clubs, maybe someone like Romero from Spurs. Will probably keep it simple & stick with my general priveging of WBs until/if it becomes a problem

      1. The Mentaculus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        2 days, 17 hours ago

        *privileging

    4. Babit1967
      • 6 Years
      2 days, 17 hours ago

      Yeah 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 for me as well with 2 cbs & 2 wbs.

      Van Dijk is locked in for me and probably Dias or Laporte for the other.

      Taa & Cancelo will prob be the wingbacks I think.

      1. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 days, 17 hours ago

        I'm on Trent and Cancelo, but if TAA ends up being 1.5m or 2m more than VVD, I'll desist from the former.

        1. Babit1967
          • 6 Years
          2 days, 17 hours ago

          Yeah, all price dependant I suppose - some other decent defenders as well like your Chelsea fullbacks, Tierney/ Doherty, Trippier, Cash/ Digne and possibly Zinchenko if he gets a move. Be interesting to see the prices.

      2. notlob legin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 days, 17 hours ago

        Who are you planning on out of Salah, Haaland and Kane?

        1. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 days, 17 hours ago

          Haaland, for me. I also have a draft with Haaland and Son which necessitates a weaker back line.

          1. notlob legin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            2 days, 17 hours ago

            Ha Ha - exactly the same here - Haaland and Son or Kane as my premium 2

            1. Babit1967
              • 6 Years
              2 days, 17 hours ago

              Think I’m decided on Salah & Son and going without Haaland if I go two premiums.

              1. Monty the Magpie
                • 4 Years
                2 days, 17 hours ago

                Lovely (c) rotation, to be fair.

                1. Babit1967
                  • 6 Years
                  2 days, 15 hours ago

                  Yeah, can’t go wrong - think Haaland will be great for City but you know what you’re getting with the other 2.

    5. Monty the Magpie
      • 4 Years
      2 days, 17 hours ago

      I was actually toying with the idea of 'cheapest defenders from the best defences' last night, but collectively it does work out a lot of points and BAPS down the drain.

      1. notlob legin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 days, 17 hours ago

        I suppose it all depends on where the additional money saved is used and potential points etc

        1. Monty the Magpie
          • 4 Years
          2 days, 17 hours ago

          Yeah, I mean using Matip as an example (probably £6m this year), the £2.5m saved on TAA doesn't really afford you very much further up the pitch. Spread it across a 'big at the back' structure though...

  9. Nostalgic Thuggery
    • 9 Years
    2 days, 18 hours ago

    Martin Axford - Head of digital Premier League

    and Fantasy Premier League

    been with them for 19 years

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 days, 18 hours ago

      How do you do, Mr. Axford.

    2. FFS Ultras are for Kinnear
      • 9 Years
      2 days, 17 hours ago

      You've got no fans

  10. FFS Ultras are for Kinnear
    • 9 Years
    2 days, 17 hours ago

    The next Bernardo Silva

  11. Nostalgic Thuggery
    • 9 Years
    2 days, 17 hours ago

    Of course I care !!!

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 days, 17 hours ago

      What's 'of course' about it? Nobody knows nor cares who he is.

      1. Little Red Lacazette
        • 5 Years
        2 days, 17 hours ago

        Who is this Axford?

    2. DavidBW
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      2 days, 17 hours ago

      It's way too early to be this drunk. You must be not in the UK.

  12. child of God
    • 4 Years
    2 days, 17 hours ago

    Sterling's expected price?

    1. notlob legin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 days, 17 hours ago

      I would guess 10.0 or 10.5m

      1. Giggs Boson
        • 10 Years
        2 days, 17 hours ago

        I'd take him at that price.

        As much as I don't want Chelsea to sign him, it would be nice to see him let off the leash and given the freedom to roam and attack defences. Pep is very particular about position, and I think it stifles Sterling. The real Raz comes out when playing for England.

        The inexplicable critisism and bias towards him would help keep his ownership down, so he'd be a powerful FPL player. Captain material in the right fixture.

        1. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 days, 17 hours ago

          I like him, but I'd still have Diaz over him.

        2. notlob legin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          2 days, 17 hours ago

          I think he'd do better at Chelsea than City - apart from with England he appears to perform better without a recognized No. 9 - at Chelsea he'd be seen as more of the "main man" and I think would perform accordingly

          1. Andy_Social
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            2 days, 16 hours ago

            Chelsea just weren't scoring goals last season. Was that all down to Lukaku? Will Raz be the missing link? I dunno, they might need another buy-in. At this point in time, I'd wait and see how Chelsea perform in GW1.

          2. notlob legin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            2 days, 16 hours ago

            I'm surprised you didn't pick me up on this comment (Giggs Boson) - it's actually the opposite of this!! He performs better with a recognized No. 9 eg Kane for England - the movement created from a decent center forward takes defenders away and creates more space, plus I think he needs a focal point for the attack. At City last season he underperformed as there was no recognized No. 9.

            If he stays at City I believe he'll have a far better season playing with Haaland rather than at Chelsea with no recognized No. 9

            1. The Mentaculus
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              2 days, 16 hours ago

              Hmm, but isn't it Kane's false 9 tendencies (dropping deeper to play Sterling in behind) that bring out the best in him for England? Could this work at Chelsea with Havertz central, Sterling left, Mount right?

              1. notlob legin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 5 Years
                2 days, 16 hours ago

                Absolutely it could. I think that Kane and Haaland are in a different league though to Havertz in that role, which is why I think he'll do better staying at City.

              2. Giggs Boson
                • 10 Years
                2 days, 15 hours ago

                Yeah this was my take. Top teams don't like a 9 on the shoulder of CBs anymore, they like them deep in the build-up controlling the central midfield, before a late surge into the box.

                I think Sterling would be in his element at Chelsea. The winbacks hold the width, giving freedom to the attackers to roam centrally wherever they like.

    2. NateDog
      • 1 Year
      2 days, 17 hours ago

      10 or 10.5 I'd wager

    3. zeslinguer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 days, 16 hours ago

      think he could come in as low as 9.5

  13. Qaiss
    • 6 Years
    2 days, 17 hours ago

    What price are people hoping TAA is? 3rd highest scorer in the game last season. Think he needs to be 8.5/9m minimum, otherwise it's already a 14 player game by GW1. I owned him for the whole of last season and never crossed my mind to sell. Was also frustrating as his points never meant anything, apart from one or two GW's when people free-hitted him out.

    1. Monty the Magpie
      • 4 Years
      2 days, 17 hours ago

      Hope is futile. He'll be £8.5m.

    2. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 days, 17 hours ago

      Either 8m or 8.5m max.
      What I'll be looking at is the different between him and Robbo and VVD.
      0.5m more than Robbo and I'll take TAA. 1.0m more and I have a decision . 1.5-2m more than VVD also gives me a decision. Might end up with Alisson.

      1. Qaiss
        • 6 Years
        2 days, 16 hours ago

        Can he really be 8m? Everyone will probably own him again at that price, he’s just ended the season at 8.4m. Cancelo’s price will also be interesting

        1. NateDog
          • 1 Year
          2 days, 16 hours ago

          I don't think everyone will own him if 8m. The only way I'd own him at 8m will be if Robbo is very close in price and even if he's 0.5 cheaper than TAA I'll still likely go with Robbo. 8m is a lot given the number of premiums that interest people and the desire to simultaneously go relatively big at the back. We've already gone from "Son is essential" a few weeks ago to again having lots of people overlooking him because of Haaland or Salah or Kane, and now we might have the likes of Sterling become a real option too along with other big transfers that inevitably will happen.

          1. Qaiss
            • 6 Years
            2 days, 16 hours ago

            3rd highest scoring player in the game though. Everyone sees a player at 8m for that price and he’s locked, especially with Liverpool’s first 6/7 matches.

            1. Athletic Nasherbo
              • 5 Years
              2 days, 16 hours ago

              Not when people relativise against other defenders.

            2. NateDog
              • 1 Year
              2 days, 16 hours ago

              Bowen was the 4th highest pts scorer and is likely to be around the same price yet he's barely being spoken about.

      2. CAVEAT KING
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 days, 15 hours ago

        This^

    3. Little Red Lacazette
      • 5 Years
      2 days, 16 hours ago

      8.0

    4. notlob legin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 days, 16 hours ago

      I "hope" he'll be 5.0m but I think he'll be 8.5

      1. Qaiss
        • 6 Years
        2 days, 16 hours ago

        But you don’t hope that though. No-one who plays FPL as seriously as we do wants the game to be that easy. If they were strict with the pricing of players, that would be more fun so that we have to really think about our teams.

        1. notlob legin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          2 days, 16 hours ago

          I totally agree mate - it was a tongue in cheek comment

    5. SpeedyPro
      • 12 Years
      2 days, 16 hours ago

      Can't see him being >8m. He got more points 2 seasons ago than he did last season and was 7.5m. I wouldn't be surprised if he was 7.5m again.

      1. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 days, 16 hours ago

        I have seen people suggesting he'll be the same price as last season. i think the options are 8.0m or 8.5m

        1. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 days, 16 hours ago

          *Uh, HAVEN'T

        2. SpeedyPro
          • 12 Years
          2 days, 16 hours ago

          I think 8m is possible, just not more and wouldn't be surprised at 7.5m.

    6. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 days, 16 hours ago

      8m I suspect. Price vs. Robbo will be interesting - since Robbo came back from his red card, he got 117 FPL points in his last 15 appearances vs. 80 for TAA's last 15.

      1. KAPTAIN KANE
        • 5 Years
        2 days, 16 hours ago

        Ssshhhh

        1. Qaiss
          • 6 Years
          2 days, 16 hours ago

          😀

      2. SpeedyPro
        • 12 Years
        2 days, 16 hours ago

        Robbo will be 0.5m less, think that's 99% certain.

    7. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 days, 16 hours ago

      I personally think they need to be more aggressive with defender pricing to tilt the balance of the game slightly. Trent should be 8.5 - given he finished at 8.4 - with Robbo and Cancelo at 7.5.

      That said, I think they'll stick to the usual incremental progression and have him at 8.0 (and Cancelo at 7).

      1. SpeedyPro
        • 12 Years
        2 days, 16 hours ago

        Cancelo and Robbo will be 0.5 less than Trent, with James 1m less. If cancelo and robbo were 1m less trent becomes a tough sell imo.

      2. Athletic Nasherbo
        • 5 Years
        2 days, 16 hours ago

        You’re just contradicting your logic, though. Cancelo ended at 7.2, so by your standards he should be 7.0m.

        I agree with your predictions at 8.0 and 7.0 and tbh I agree with fpl if they did those prices. Nothing to warrant a 1.0m jump for Trent. It’s ludicrous.

        1. SpeedyPro
          • 12 Years
          2 days, 16 hours ago

          I'm not contradicting anything. The finishing price last season isn't relevant. Cancelo rose by 1.2m, the most out of all these big hitting defenders, and that's purely because his opening price was too low.

          1. Baines on Toast...
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            2 days, 16 hours ago

            I believe it's me being said to have contradicted myself 😉

            1. Athletic Nasherbo
              • 5 Years
              2 days, 16 hours ago

              Yeah, SpeedyPro it was not aimed at you, it’s just how the comments works on this site as you’re probably aware yourself. Sorry!

        2. Baines on Toast...
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 days, 16 hours ago

          I think Trent's price was in the right ballpark so 8.5 is where he ended and should start, whereas Cancelo started in hindsight 0.5 too cheap and so could only rise by so much.

          I just think it's so well known now that defenders provide such good value that it's time to price them more aggressively.

          1. SpeedyPro
            • 12 Years
            2 days, 16 hours ago

            Don't forget the increase in team values and purchasing power by the end of the season though. Trent may have been 8.4m but the average team value was probably 5m higher than it started.

            1. Andy_Social
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              2 days, 16 hours ago

              An overlooked factor here is the World Cup. The first half of the season (and presumably post-WC half) will be very congested. Clubs in Europe will play twice a week every week. This will necessitate more resting, especially of wingbacks. I suspect we'll be seeing lower points totals at the end of this season compared to last.

              1. RedLightning
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 11 Years
                2 days, 13 hours ago

                Points totals will definitely be lower.
                Last season's were at a record high because of all the DGWs (and the chips, which have only been around for a few seasons).

            2. Baines on Toast...
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              2 days, 15 hours ago

              Yeah this is a fair point. Even 8.0 would be the highest since prime Baines.

          2. Athletic Nasherbo
            • 5 Years
            2 days, 16 hours ago

            Trent rises in price even without points. End of the season proved it. At 8.0m, Trent will rise slowly. I see the merit of 8.5m but I can’t help but question it when James is 6.5 and Cancelo is 7.0 etc.

    8. De has no news
      • 3 Years
      2 days, 13 hours ago

      Think they have a price cap on Defenders, so think TAA will be 8.0M so a must have too!

      1. Athletic Nasherbo
        • 5 Years
        2 days, 12 hours ago

        TAA’s points are capped at 200. No defender is getting higher than that. Whereas Bowen could easily cap his points total. The point is defenders shouldn’t continue to rise in price as there points potential stagnates/plateaus.

  14. Ahtikullervo
    • 4 Years
    2 days, 16 hours ago

    So no price reveals, so no game till next week it means? Just LiveFPL to keep on practicing...

    1. The Knights Template
      • 8 Years
      2 days, 16 hours ago

      Practicing RMTs?

      1. Ahtikullervo
        • 4 Years
        2 days, 16 hours ago

        Why not... But trying to combine all the new guys (Haaland, Nuñes, Perisic,...) and the old ones. "New prices" etc. Some fun, but me personally would love the real thing to be out there. Now we can not be sure on the prices or possible position changes...

  15. Eyes of Blue
      2 days, 16 hours ago

      Hi all! Long time reader, first time poster here. Thought I’d join in the fun and share my first draft on LiveFPL:

      Raya
      TAA | Cancelo | Chilwell | Henry
      Salah | Kulu | Odegaard | Neto
      Haaland | Watkins

      4.0 GK | 4.5 FWD | 4.5 MID | 4.0 DEF

      1. The Mentaculus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        2 days, 16 hours ago

        Hey Blue! Nice to meet ya. Solid draft that. Double Brentford defence would be my only concern there, but either of Raya/Henry could be good picks on their own

        1. Eyes of Blue
            2 days, 15 hours ago

            Cheers mate! Yeah that’s my main concern too as I do feel like Brentford could suffer a bit from “second season syndrome”.

            My thinking is Henry can be easily replaced with any 4.5 DEF. I’ve seen Wolves defenders (Ait Nouri, Jonny) get a bit of attention recently.

        2. The Knights Template
          • 8 Years
          2 days, 16 hours ago

          Welcome aboard! Keep’em coming!

          1. Eyes of Blue
              2 days, 15 hours ago

              Cheers mate!

          2. notlob legin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            2 days, 16 hours ago

            Quite strong - no sure on the Brentford double up at the back is my only criticism. I like both Henry and Raya but probably not together.

            Really like the rest of the team and balance

            1. Eyes of Blue
                2 days, 15 hours ago

                Yeah I’m not convinced on the Brentford double up either. I’ll probably be more likely to keep Raya and replace Henry with another 4.5 DEF. Maybe someone like Ait Nouri or Jonny if they can nail down a starting place.

                1. notlob legin
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  2 days, 15 hours ago

                  If Fofana comes in at 4.5m (which I think he will) he'll be worth a look at

                  1. Eyes of Blue
                      2 days, 14 hours ago

                      That’s a good point! Let’s just hope Leicester fix their set piece issues in pre season!

              • Athletic Nasherbo
                • 5 Years
                2 days, 16 hours ago

                Very very similar to me.

                I have Fofana and another 4.5DEF, and Bruno G over Neto. I will have Cash over Chilwell, so very similar.

                1. Athletic Nasherbo
                  • 5 Years
                  2 days, 16 hours ago

                  A conundrum of mine, assuming they are the same price, is Watkins over Wilson. Weirdly, whilst Watkins has better short term fixtures, Wilson feels short term.

                  1. Eyes of Blue
                      2 days, 15 hours ago

                      Yeah I know what you mean. I think a lot of people are attracted to Newcastle because of that home game against Forest. That, combined with the fact that Wilson finished last season strong and tends to be a strong starter as well makes him an attractive pick for me too.

                      In truth, I probably won’t want Watkins or Wilson after GW2.

                      1. Andy_Social
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 9 Years
                        2 days, 15 hours ago

                        I'll be looking at Newcastle for their fixtures after GW5. 6-10 look very tasty.

                        1. Eyes of Blue
                            2 days, 14 hours ago

                            They certainly do! Let’s hope Wilson is still fit by then!

                        2. Athletic Nasherbo
                          • 5 Years
                          2 days, 12 hours ago

                          Watkins is ok in my mind until gameweek 4. Wilson gets better. Shame Villa’s fixture is good gameweek 1 otherwise a maverick switcheroo could be on the cards.

                    • Eyes of Blue
                        2 days, 15 hours ago

                        Fofana is an interesting pick. Funnily enough I did have Cash over Chilwell initially and I had the extra 0.5m in midfield instead (I had Saint-Maximin rather than Neto).

                    • NateDog
                      • 1 Year
                      2 days, 15 hours ago

                      Welcome mate!

                      1. Eyes of Blue
                          2 days, 15 hours ago

                          Cheers mate!

                      2. CAVEAT KING
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        2 days, 15 hours ago

                        Hello bud. Welcome to the "narrative". I hope you enjoy and post regularly.

                        1. Eyes of Blue
                            2 days, 15 hours ago

                            Haha cheers mate! I shall certainly try!

                      3. SpeedyPro
                        • 12 Years
                        2 days, 16 hours ago

                        Seeing a lot of Son love and very little love for Kane. With the price differential likely the lowest it's ever been is no one tempted to get kane instead? On pens, plays more minutes etc

                        I'd take a guess that kane will be a 12m fwd and son at 11/11.5m mid.

                        1. amitmishr
                          • 6 Years
                          2 days, 16 hours ago

                          Agreed, also there will be too many options in the mid and may be better to focus transfers there, while keeping kane as a striker

                        2. Athletic Nasherbo
                          • 5 Years
                          2 days, 16 hours ago

                          If Spurs had slightly more appetising opening 4, I’d be all over it. You’d argue I’m excited over the shiny new toy that is Haaland, but Kane tends to starts somewhat slower. He’s a great option, just I would only captain him once in the first 4 unlike Haaland. Haaland has better fixtures after, just imo.

                          1. Athletic Nasherbo
                            • 5 Years
                            2 days, 16 hours ago

                            * slow, not slower as that suggest I’m comparing. I just think Haaland has all the hallmarks to start fast.

                            1. Andy_Social
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 9 Years
                              2 days, 15 hours ago

                              Where it gets really interesting is if Son is reclassified as a forward. What needs to be the price differential between those 2 then?

                            2. amitmishr
                              • 6 Years
                              2 days, 15 hours ago

                              yes, the august Kane is going to be an issue. Will have to see who chelsea bring in, may be a good option from there. else, might stick with one of watkins/wilson and get a premium mid

                        3. Giggs Boson
                          • 10 Years
                          2 days, 15 hours ago

                          If Son is classified as a midfielder, Kane would have to be around £2m cheaper for me to take him over Son.

                          Son gets more points.

                          1. FPLGOOD
                            • 2 Years
                            2 days, 15 hours ago

                            I'm currently thinking quite differently. For many seasons Kane and Son have been going back and forth who get the most points. Currently Son maybe has a slightly more excpected points but for me only just.

                            For Kane one argument is that forwards are hard to find. Pens and more minutes were already mentioned.

                            If they are on same price, I would probably go for Kane. If Kane is lower, then definately for him.

                            1. Giggs Boson
                              • 10 Years
                              2 days, 15 hours ago

                              Interesting. Yeah I think I'm being a little harsh on Kane. His awful start to the season corrupted his season data.

                              Haven't yet analysed the Conte effect, I imagine Kane comes out much stronger post Conte. Think I'll only use that data for Spurs players...

                              1. FPLGOOD
                                • 2 Years
                                2 days, 13 hours ago

                                I took some look at that earlier. If I remember correctly Kane had positive effect but Son didnt really. But this might go hand to hand just with Kane's extremely poor start. Still under Conte Son overperformed Kane, so you're not off with that. I just assume its mostly variance between these two.

                                Also I just personally think Son had the season of his life and Kane more of an off-season.

                                Next year is Kane's best change to win PL with Spurs so imagine he'll be right at it from the off this time. Even we think its far off, I'm sure Kane thinks there is a real change with Conte and the reqruiments.

                        4. NateDog
                          • 1 Year
                          2 days, 15 hours ago

                          The issue for me is that I'm likely to go with Haaland and I'd much prefer my premiums to be spread across positions, so having nearly a quarter of my budget gone on 2 forwards could be problematic if I need to jump on a midfield premium. The thing with Son too in general is consistency, even during Nuno's disastrous term last season he was still picking up points. Kane has been superb since around GW25 or so but he's also of late had a tendency to throwaway bps quite a lot with wayward shooting, losing the ball in midfield and yellow cards. Son picks up more points too of course for G/A and the clean sheet pt so it's not inconceivable that in a 2-0 win where both score, that say Kane ends up on 6pts while Son end up on 11. Even if that's reversed and Son gets 0 bonus while Kane scoops all 3 there's only a 1pt difference in favour of Kane.

                          Next season may be different of course, with someone like Bissouma there he may feel a little less inclined to drop deep so much which should be good for his prospects but we'll have to see.

                      4. Yam-es
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 7 Years
                        2 days, 16 hours ago

                        Hi all! Not sure if this is the right forum for this question, but here it goes; how do I find out if my membership will auto-renew? Any pointers are welcome, cheers!

                        1. The Mentaculus
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          2 days, 16 hours ago

                          Think you have to click the edit button in your profile to display renewal date now

                        2. bitm2007
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 8 Years
                          2 days, 15 hours ago

                          Log into your account and click the edit option on your Gravitar image, the renewal date is listed there but it doesn't state what the renewal price is. I'm hoping it will be the same as last year (£22.50 I think) because after the current £24.99 offer ends the price of a premium annual membership will shoot up to £36.

                      5. Ron_Swanson
                        • 11 Years
                        2 days, 15 hours ago

                        Feels like they’re gearing up to classify Perisic as a defender:

                        “Perisic's position in 2022/23 Fantasy will ultimately determine his appeal.

                        The Croat arrives at Tottenham Hotspur on the back of eight Serie A goals and seven assists for Inter Milan last season.

                        Although he has mainly played as a winger throughout his career, Perisic has been transformed into an attacking wing-back for Inter.

                        He played as a left-sided wing-back last term and is expected to occupy the same role at Spurs in Antonio Conte’s 3-4-3 formation.”

                        From the Premierleague.com linked from the FPL Twitter.

                        https://www.premierleague.com/news/2642305?sf257515455=1

                        1. Eyes of Blue
                            2 days, 15 hours ago

                            Will be interesting to see what price he comes in at. Surely it’s got to be around 6.5m minimum with those numbers?

                        2. bitm2007
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 8 Years
                          2 days, 15 hours ago

                          I only paid £17.50 for FFS Membership last year and have an auto-renew coming up in August. Will that renewal still be at £17.50, now FFS are offering two different types of membership Premium Member (Annual) for £36 a year (or £24.99 before July 1) and Bundle Package (Annual) at £40 a year (or £29.99 before July 1) ?

                          1. Andy_Social
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 9 Years
                            2 days, 15 hours ago

                            Oh, mine comes up on August 3rd. So if we do pay more, are we disadvantaged by renewing after July 1st? Hmm.

                            1. bitm2007
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 8 Years
                              2 days, 15 hours ago

                              That's what I'm thinking. If my membership is going to auto-renew at more than £24.99 then signing up for Premium Member (Annual) at £24.99 before July 1 makes sense.

                            2. Geoff
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • Has Moderation Rights
                              • 9 Years
                              2 days, 14 hours ago

                              Once you sign up at a price you get that price forever, until you cancel

                          2. Shattered Dreams
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 3 Years
                            2 days, 15 hours ago

                            Its a good question. My renewal is also in August.

                            1. Geoff
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • Has Moderation Rights
                              • 9 Years
                              2 days, 14 hours ago

                              You're good to stay on that, locked in price

                              1. Shattered Dreams
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 3 Years
                                2 days, 13 hours ago

                                Brill.

                          3. Giggs Boson
                            • 10 Years
                            2 days, 15 hours ago

                            From what I was told a few weeks ago, as long as you keep it on auto-renew, it locks in the price you initially paid. So it should be £17.50.

                            Didn't know it's increasing to £36... Will have to buy it soon then if I don't win the price prediction competition...

                            1. Andy_Social
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 9 Years
                              2 days, 15 hours ago

                              Cheers, GB

                            2. bitm2007
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 8 Years
                              2 days, 15 hours ago

                              Yes £36 after the July 1st for Premium Member (Annual), see link below.

                              https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/register?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImK-rg-7A-AIVmLPtCh1f-QArEAAYASAAEgJbPfD_BwE

                              1. Andy_Social
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 9 Years
                                2 days, 14 hours ago

                                But for existing members like us, do we pay 17.50 or the higher sum?
                                And I don't want a 'bundle', but what is it anyway?

                            3. Geoff
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • Has Moderation Rights
                              • 9 Years
                              2 days, 14 hours ago

                              Yeah locked in price. Price will go up on July 1 t0 29.99

                          4. Geoff
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • Has Moderation Rights
                            • 9 Years
                            2 days, 14 hours ago

                            If you're on auto-renew, you're locked into that price for the duration of your membership, until you cancel 🙂

                            1. Andy_Social
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 9 Years
                              2 days, 14 hours ago

                              Excellent! Cheers Geoff (in a certain tv commentator's voice)

                              1. Geoff
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • Has Moderation Rights
                                • 9 Years
                                2 days, 14 hours ago

                                😀

                            2. The Mentaculus
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              2 days, 13 hours ago

                              Great, thanks for clarifying Geoff (I'm mid-July so was also wondering)

                        3. Shattered Dreams
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 3 Years
                          2 days, 15 hours ago

                          Porto seem to produce a lot of great players. I suspect it'll take a while for Vieira to settle in the PL but looking forward to seeing what he can do.

                          1. Giggs Boson
                            • 10 Years
                            2 days, 15 hours ago

                            Do you know much about Porto's Evanilson?

                            It sounds like United are prepared to spend big to sign the Brazillian striker.

                            1. Shattered Dreams
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 3 Years
                              2 days, 15 hours ago

                              Absolutely nothing. Portuguese players only appear on my radar when they move to English football - I am your typical English footy fan who knows nothing beyond these shores, football wise!

                            2. Andy_Social
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 9 Years
                              2 days, 15 hours ago

                              This just dropped:

                              Fabrizio Romano
                              @FabrizioRomano
                              ·
                              1m
                              Manchester United have not submitted any bid to FC Porto for Brazilian striker Evanilson, despite rumours of €70m proposal turned down. He's not in Man United list as of today. ⛔️

                              1. Giggs Boson
                                • 10 Years
                                2 days, 15 hours ago

                                Probably stuck with Martial for another two seasons then because no one will pay his wages...

                                Joel Glazers fault. He was adament Martial was the next Pele 🙄

                              2. DavidBW
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 1 Year
                                2 days, 14 hours ago

                                70m for a striker who only scored 14 league goals last season in Portugal seems like an absolute rip off

                                1. RedRo
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  2 days, 13 hours ago

                                  It’s Man Utd

                        4. CAVEAT KING
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 8 Years
                          2 days, 14 hours ago

                          The well known saying "You can't av em all" fits so what do you think?
                          Raya 4.0
                          Robbo Cancelo Perisic Trippier Chilwell
                          Diaz/Mount Maddison Neto Son Wissa
                          Jesus Wilson Gerhardt

                          Haaland could be an issue.

                          1. notlob legin
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 5 Years
                            2 days, 14 hours ago

                            Lose one defender to a 4.0m and upgrade Jesus to Haaland?

                            1. CAVEAT KING
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 8 Years
                              2 days, 14 hours ago

                              It is tempting. I have a gut feel if Jesus goes to Arsenal he could be close to Haarland.I am more inclined to upgrade Wilson.

                              1. notlob legin
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 5 Years
                                2 days, 14 hours ago

                                Interesting - I'm coming round to going 2 big up top this season, but against popular opinion I'm thinking Haaland and Kane now!!!

                          2. Eyes of Blue
                              2 days, 13 hours ago

                              Hard to tell without knowing what Perisic’s price will be, but (going off LiveFPL’s prices) you could do something like:

                              Raya 4.0
                              van Dijk Cancelo Perisic Cash 4.0
                              Saka Coutinho Neto Son 4.5
                              Jesus Haaland 4.5

                              1. CAVEAT KING
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 8 Years
                                2 days, 13 hours ago

                                Coutinho a definite no no for me; Even with his fixtures. I think Matip will still be on the team sheet too.

                          3. Trent Robbo 66✅
                            • 10 Years
                            2 days, 14 hours ago

                            Any good 4.5M mid from new promoted teams?

                            1. Andy_Social
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 9 Years
                              2 days, 14 hours ago

                              Er, we don't know the prices yet.

                              1. Trent Robbo 66✅
                                • 10 Years
                                2 days, 14 hours ago

                                🙂

                            2. CAVEAT KING
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 8 Years
                              2 days, 14 hours ago

                              Salah Son KDB? You never know (smile)

                            3. Nomar
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 12 Years
                              2 days, 14 hours ago

                              That whole sentence probably answers itself.

                              Good mids.
                              £4.5m.
                              Newly promoted teams.

                              Think about it....

                              1. Trent Robbo 66✅
                                • 10 Years
                                2 days, 14 hours ago

                                i'm finding some inside information fromm Forest fans or something...

                            4. Make Arrows Green Again
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 5 Years
                              2 days, 14 hours ago

                              *Types question*
                              *Adopts profile pic pose*

                              😉

                              1. Trent Robbo 66✅
                                • 10 Years
                                2 days, 14 hours ago

                                so small I cannt see anything

                                1. Deulofail
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 6 Years
                                  2 days, 13 hours ago

                                  Get a pump

                            5. CONNERS
                              • 3 Years
                              2 days, 14 hours ago

                              I'm hoping we are gifted a 4.0 def - something in the mould of Lord Lundstram would be nice.

                          4. halstho
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 9 Years
                            2 days, 14 hours ago

                            Afternoon

                            Please could I propose an addition to the ways of filtering the Team Stats data in the members area.

                            I want to view xGC data for a specific Gameweek Range AND select whether it is Home or Away. This would allow me to look at a team's xGC data at home (or away) for the second half of last season, for example.

                            At the moment, we can select one of:
                            Last 6 Home or
                            Last 6 Away or
                            All Home or
                            All Away or
                            Gameweek Range (but not split for Home/Away).

                            Thanks

                            Tom

                          5. FPL Insanity
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            2 days, 14 hours ago

                            Ok official FPL, Mane has signed. Can we have the game live now please!

                            1. RedRo
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              2 days, 14 hours ago

                              Steady on. Neco Williams hasn’t signed for Forest yet. They’ve got to wait.

                            2. Mince n Tatties
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 8 Years
                              2 days, 14 hours ago

                              It's gonna be Friday Man

                              1. Ahtikullervo
                                • 4 Years
                                2 days, 13 hours ago

                                Next Friday or the one after that?

                            3. DavidBW
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 1 Year
                              2 days, 14 hours ago

                              Why the rush, there's still 6 weeks to go.

                              Go enjoy the sunshine.

                            4. CAVEAT KING
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 8 Years
                              2 days, 13 hours ago

                              I think big changes in FPL. It could create delays.

                          6. Terry Tibbs: Top Pundit
                            • 5 Years
                            2 days, 14 hours ago

                            After the game updates, anyone know if we'll still be able to access 'points per match' info, either on fpl or elsewhere?

                            1. Andy_Social
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 9 Years
                              2 days, 13 hours ago

                              Not on the official site, but I believe other fan sites save the data. I'd be interested to know which ones myself.

                              1. pingissimus
                                • 3 Years
                                2 days, 13 hours ago

                                No idea how long this will be up there once FPL updates but this could work

                                https://fploptimized.com/who_played.html

                            2. Bavarian
                              • 4 Years
                              2 days, 13 hours ago

                              try this > https://www.fplgameweek.com

                            3. Terry Tibbs: Top Pundit
                              • 5 Years
                              2 days, 13 hours ago

                              Cheers all.

                            4. RedLightning
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • Has Moderation Rights
                              • 11 Years
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              The points for each individual match and for each separate Gameweek should disappear, but stats for the season such as points per match should remain till GW1.

                          7. Giggs Boson
                            • 10 Years
                            2 days, 13 hours ago

                            Antony won't be too much longer. United officials in Amsterdam to complete the transfer.
                            https://twitter.com/sportbible/status/1539152278434848768?t=nfFvS9G3iVth-ek633cAHA&s=19

                            He's been getting quite a few starts for Brazil lately, even over Raphinha. Fred is pretty much nailed on for Brazil, so I wonder if he's helped convince Antony to join. Exciting young player.

                            1. Andy_Social
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 9 Years
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              What I read today is that Ajax will let Ten Haag take one player this window, but not 2. Ten Haag wants both Antony and Martinez. Now Martinez is a centre back - you'd think he'd be the priority when United already have a surfeit of wide attackers. But, United huh.

                              1. Lanley Staurel
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 11 Years
                                2 days, 12 hours ago

                                Eriksen will be a typical Utd signing. Excelled at Spurs and Brentford and will flop at Utd. Totally random signings.

                                1. Andy_Social
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 9 Years
                                  2 days, 12 hours ago

                                  I suspect he knows that, and that's why he's turned them down. Given Spurs have lost interest, he might actually stay at Brentford, in which case I'd have him in my squad.

                                  1. Lanley Staurel
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 11 Years
                                    2 days, 11 hours ago

                                    Yep agree with this

                          8. CAVEAT KING
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 8 Years
                            2 days, 13 hours ago

                            A lot of news and changes to come; but what the hell; I am narrowing my list to 4 priority sections:

                            Must have: Raya, Robbo, Son, Gerhardt, Chilwell/Rjames, Jesus, Maddison, Wissa,

                            Could have: Cancelo Trippier, Mount, Wilson, Neto, Bowen,

                            Watch list: Cash, Diaz, Perisic, Haaland, Guimarez, Bruno, Nunez, Raphina, Sakha, Matip, Cucarella, Pope, Laporte, Mwepu, Zinchenko,
                            Sterling, Foden, Mitrovic, Kulu, KDB, Salah, Sancho, Martinelli, Pulisic,

                            Don’t want: Kane, Ronaldo, TAA, Watkins, DCL, Richarlisson, Coutinho,
                            Obviously I am banking on a few moves to make things work.
                            Who have I missed?

                            1. The Knights Template
                              • 8 Years
                              2 days, 13 hours ago

                              I miss the Banana Splits, twas a great show.

                              1. The Knights Template
                                • 8 Years
                                2 days, 13 hours ago

                                I liked Bingo the most.

                            2. Camzy
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 12 Years
                              2 days, 13 hours ago

                              I wouldn't lock in any of the players you have in the 'must-have' section. Price will affect all of them.

                              Cancelo is the only player that is straight in my team and if Salah signs on with his early fixtures he also is in even at 13m.

                              1. CAVEAT KING
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 8 Years
                                2 days, 12 hours ago

                                Opinion given what I think prices might be only. There will have to be extreme changes for me to move away at this point and for sure, there are many issues to come up yet.

                            3. Kobayashi
                              • 2 Years
                              2 days, 13 hours ago

                              What's your reason for ruling out TAA out of interest?

                              1. CAVEAT KING
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 8 Years
                                2 days, 12 hours ago

                                Saving TOM. My belief he will be a mil more expensive than Robbo and I won't be captaining him anytime soon.

                            4. The Mentaculus
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              Good call on Mwepu. I'm keeping an eye on him too. Was very impressed by what I saw toward end of last season

                          9. NotNowKato
                            • 9 Years
                            2 days, 13 hours ago

                            Anyone think that the delay is due to FPL introducing integer pricing?

                            Ie - instead of all players starting at x.0 or x.5 that players could come in at x.2, x.7 etc.

                            Would certainly make it more tactical and would be an extention of what happens with player values after the season starts?

                            1. NotNowKato
                              • 9 Years
                              2 days, 13 hours ago

                              Ie Kane at 11.3, Salah at 12.6, Cancelo at 7.1 etc (I've made those up BTW)

                            2. The Knights Template
                              • 8 Years
                              2 days, 13 hours ago

                              I think it will be a rule change around the five subs.

                            3. Pasqualinho
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 13 Years
                              2 days, 13 hours ago

                              Delay? It's still June. Forest haven't even finished clearing up the empty bottles yet.

                            4. NateDog
                              • 1 Year
                              2 days, 13 hours ago

                              I don't really see why that would cause a delay personally, it's just the same as setting a price at .5 or .0, no? If prices can rise to anything around that I can't imagine that would cause any more work, but then again I know nothing about coding

                            5. Camzy
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 12 Years
                              2 days, 13 hours ago

                              I don't know why that would be the thing that you think they're implementing which causes a later launch.

                              But yeah, I sort of agree. I wish we had players across all price points rather than in 0.5m intervals.

                              Some players are worth more than 4.5m but less than 5.0m. Like someone like Coufal. He should be 4.7m or something and that could be someone worth buying but at 4.5m he's underpriced and at 5.0m he's overpriced.

                              1. Hobo
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 10 Years
                                2 days, 12 hours ago

                                All players should just be the same value as they were at the end of last season.

                                Make prices drop by the same metric as price rises and let the market decide the players value

                                New players as priced like they always have been

                            6. Sun Jihai
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 10 Years
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              The 0.5m pricing is mainly frustrating right at the start
                              If you have a 4.5m defender and he doesn't start/gets injured etc. in GW1 you basically need to use an early transfer on him as if he drops, you can only afford a 4.0m replacement (who are usually non-playing fodder)

                            7. The Mentaculus
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              Hope they do this with pricing

                          10. The Knights Template
                            • 8 Years
                            2 days, 13 hours ago

                            All the players should just cost £9m each.

                            1. RedRo
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              2 days, 13 hours ago

                              What about Firpo?

                              1. The Knights Template
                                • 8 Years
                                2 days, 13 hours ago

                                Dungeon, no trial.

                            2. el polako
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 4 Years
                              2 days, 13 hours ago

                              Ok, Orwell...

                              1. The Knights Template
                                • 8 Years
                                2 days, 13 hours ago

                                The future? Imagine a sabaton crushing a human face!

                                1. The Knights Template
                                  • 8 Years
                                  2 days, 12 hours ago

                                  Forever

                                2. el polako
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 4 Years
                                  2 days, 12 hours ago

                                  All players are equal.

                                  1. RedLightning
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • Has Moderation Rights
                                    • 11 Years
                                    2 days, 12 hours ago

                                    ... but some are more equal than others.

                            3. RedLightning
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • Has Moderation Rights
                              • 11 Years
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              And the budget increasing to 135m?

                              1. The Knights Template
                                • 8 Years
                                2 days, 12 hours ago

                                No subs. Subs are losers as Trump would say.

                          11. Baines on Toast...
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 11 Years
                            2 days, 12 hours ago

                            Anyone else think Spurs have a shot at challenging for the title this year? Know they are miles off at present and Europe is a big ask, but it's going to be a unique season, Conte is an elite manager and if they get a fast start they could be strong front runners.

                            1. RedRo
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              No but I make them favourites for 3rd.

                            2. Zim0
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 3 Years
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              I hope they win. Hate Liverpool and City.

                            3. Athletic Nasherbo
                              • 5 Years
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              The starting 11 isn’t good enough, let alone squad depth. Only way I see it happening is if they keep everyone fit, whilst key injuries to City and Liverpool occur. You’re not winning the league with a defence involving Dier, Doherty, and Perisic, and barely any back up attackers. Yes Leicester happened, but we all agreed that will never happen again. Spurs might compete until Feb and drop off. Remember they started well under Moutinho with a worse team.

                            4. The Knights Template
                              • 8 Years
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              They can’t if they’re miles off.

                            5. Hobo
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 10 Years
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              It would be extraordinary if they get within 10 points of City

                            6. Dynamic Duos
                              • 8 Years
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              Lmao, no, Spurs are a cup team

                              1. ElliotJHP
                                • 10 Years
                                2 days, 12 hours ago

                                That's harsh to cup teams

                              2. Athletic Nasherbo
                                • 5 Years
                                2 days, 12 hours ago

                                I think people thinking Spurs have a chance under-appreciate how good City and Liverpool are/have been. Could definitely see a winners medal in a cup competition, for sure. Conte typically not great in Champions League, either.

                              3. DavidBW
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 1 Year
                                2 days, 12 hours ago

                                a cup team that never win any cups

                            7. Monty the Magpie
                              • 4 Years
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              More likely a decent run at CL.

                            8. syke63
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 8 Years
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              They're only a long term injury to Son or Kane away from finishing 5th.

                            9. The Mentaculus
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              Not quite, but I dont think its as far-fetched as some commenters above. Will require quite a dip from both City & Liverpool obviously. And more consistency against the low block. But they can certainly beat the top 2 on their day and should be a lock for 3rd at least.

                            10. El Presidente
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 2 Years
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              Not a chance. As long as Pep stays at City, forget it.

                              1. Andy_Social
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 9 Years
                                2 days, 12 hours ago

                                I see them being as third as they come. A chasm between them and second. Clear blue water between them and fourth.

                            11. NateDog
                              • 1 Year
                              2 days, 12 hours ago

                              Depth is the biggest challenge. They have a world class manager and world class players in Kane and Son but the question is can they afford to rotate them or lose them for a few games? What I will say is that City and Liverpool have both lost a little of their depth since last year / are going to do so this summer, you just never know how things like injuries or off-pitch events can time out

                            12. Sgt Frank Drebin
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 5 Years
                              2 days, 11 hours ago

                              I think they can do very well and are a bit underrated, but they have this bad luck that they have to compete with two best teams in Europe and two of the best teams in the PL history. Imho they can have a shot at challenging for title only if both Lfc and City have some injury problems. But I would tip them for a top 4 finish personally.

                            13. Spoox777
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 10 Years
                              2 days, 11 hours ago

                              No but think 3rd place will be between Spurs & Chelsea. Don't see anyone challenging City or Liverpool