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FPL first-draft team reveals: 5-3-2 with Haaland and Salah

With Fantasy Premier League (FPL) live for 2022/23, we’ll be welcoming back our stellar team of Pro Pundits and Hall of Famers for the new campaign.

We’ll be hearing from a different writer every day in the aftermath of the FPL relaunch, to get their thoughts on the pricing and to see their initial picks.

Our writers will be providing regular articles and team reveals throughout the new season, with only Premium Members able to access every single one.

First up is five-time top 1k finisher Tom Freeman, who is now on board as Scout’s Deputy Editor.

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After four days of price reveals, Fantasy Premier League (FPL) opened its doors for the 2022/23 campaign on Tuesday.

So, in this, my first column of the new season, I thought I’d jot down some initial thoughts on strategy, plus teams/players that have caught my eye, and then build a very rough first draft based around that.

There are still just over four weeks to go until the season gets underway, and lots will change during that time, so I’m treating this as a kind of pre-season Watchlist that I can then develop.


SHORTER-TERM THINKING?

Firstly, the most important takeaway from Tuesday’s launch: Fantasy managers will get unlimited transfers during the six-week hiatus between Gameweeks 16 and 17, when the Premier League takes a break to accommodate the World Cup.

It’s effectively a third chance to completely overhaul your squad, as the two usual Wildcards remain in place.

As you have to use the first one by Gameweek 16, the season is almost split into quarters, which means I think we can afford to be a bit more aggressive and short-term with our initial picks.

This means I’m not really looking beyond Gameweek 6 for my initial set-up, as realistically, the latest I’ll use my first Wildcard – in between Gameweeks 8 and 9 – is the September international break.


As a result, I’m considering Aston Villa’s Lucas Digne (£5.0m) in an attempt to capitalise on those opening four fixtures against Bournemouth, Everton, Crystal Palace and West Ham United.

By which point, he can then be moved onto someone in the £4.5m defender pool, a bracket I really like this year.

BEST £4.5M FPL DEFENDERS?

The £4.5m defender category is absolutely stacked with talent this year, and due to the kind pricing of the premium options, I feel it might be ignored.

And I like the idea of moving this spot around during the season to capitalise on certain fixture swings, with the names below all catching my eye over the past few days.

For example, James Justin (£4.5m) and Sven Botman’s (£4.5m) good runs start in Gameweek 6, while Vladimir Coufal’s (£4.5m) is a week later, something I touched on in my recent ‘When to best ‘hop on’ players with good fixtures’ article.

PlayerTeam
Takehiro Tomiyasu, Ben WhiteArsenal
Lewis Dunk, Tariq LampteyBrighton and Hove Albion
Marc GuehiCrystal Palace
Timothy Castagne, James JustinLeicester City
Sven BotmanNewcastle United
Vladimir CoufalWest Ham United
Rayan Ait-Nouri, JonnyWolverhampton Wanderers

CHELSEA‘S FPL ASSETS

Given that Chelsea have consistently been one of the best defences in the league under Thomas Tuchel, their assets feel a little under-priced this year. Edouard Mendy (£5.0m), plus both wing-backs at just £6.0m, could offer real value, even if the mooted switch to a back-four formation comes to fruition.

A lot will depend on recruitment and if they can successfully replace Antonio Rudiger, but if they can, a £5.0m starting ‘keeper from a Champions League-level defence feels like a sound investment, especially if you think they can improve on last season’s tally of 15 clean sheets.

The impact of a switch to a 4-2-3-1 formation could also boost their attacking output, which is why I have included Mason Mount (£8.0m) in my first draft. However, if Raheem Sterling (£10.0m) completes his move from Manchester City, I have a feeling he could really shake things up, with the prospect of Raphinha (£7.0m) feeding him from the right-flank a mouthwatering one for FPL managers. In that scenario, the winger would almost certainly make it into my Gameweek 1 team.

BEST BUDGET FPL PICKS


So, it’s safe to say a lot will change between now and next month’s Gameweek 1 deadline, but isn’t it fun being back talking FPL again armed with all the info?

Also, a quick shout out to Pras and Andy, who made some really nice points in last night’s ‘How to build a first draft’ video, which I’ve linked below in case you missed it.


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  1. Athletic Nasherbo
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Atleast I’m on something different, I can’t bare to have a 5atb either.

    Alisson
    TAA Robertson Tierney Jonny
    KdB(C) Fernandes BrunoG
    Haaland Wilson Johnson

    Begovic AndreasP Coufal Colback

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      I feel like you could easily do much better with the money saved in defence and from no Salah. Would happily have you in my ML with that team 😉

    2. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Reckon you're better with one of kdb or Haaland. GL.

  2. RichieW
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    If Ronaldo goes I think Bruno could be good value at 10m assuming he'd be back on pens

    A) Salah & Elanga
    B) Bruno & Luis Diaz

    Mendy
    Tomiyasu James Robbo Cancelo
    Saka Mount
    Jesus Haaland

    1. Toothis
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      B out of them but I would want to fit Salah in without Elanga tbh

    2. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      A still I reckon

    3. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Of those B because I wouldn't want to be starting Elanga,

  3. I Member
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Mendy
    TAA, XXX, XXX, Perisic
    Salah, Diaz, XXX, Neto
    Kane, Jesus

    4.0; 4.0, 4.5, 4.5.

    A) Cancelo + James + Martinelli
    B) Laporte + 5.0 def (Cash/Gabriel/Trippier) + 8.0 mid (Foden/Mount)

    1. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      A

    2. TheBiffas
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      A

    3. Float
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      How about C) Cancelo + 5.0 DEF (e.g. Trippier) + 7.0 MID (e.g. Raphinha, Zaha, Barnes, Coutinho)

      1. I Member
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        I would be tempted by that if Raphinha ends up at Chelsea. Tough opening fixtures for Zaha and Barnes. Coutinho could be good but not sold on him for some reason. Maybe a strong pre-season could change my mind.

  4. Winston.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    A. Diaz + Tomiasu/Jonny rotation (451)
    or
    B. Robertson + Perisic (541) ?

    1. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      A I think is better value

    2. Soto Ayam
      • 4 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      B

    3. TheBiffas
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      A

    4. OShaughnessy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      RE: Option B. Who's your first bench option?

      1. Winston.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        …4.5 mid, probably Andreas Pereira. Risky.

    5. The Mentaculus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      A

  5. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Which would you go for chaps?

    1) James | Chilwell | Kulusevski | Jesus

    2) Tomiyasu | Son | Gordon/Neto | Mitrovic

    1. Walter White (WW)
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      1 of course

    2. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      2 less explosive but should be more steady

    3. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      1. So easy

      1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Cheers boys

    4. I Member
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      1

    5. cravencottage
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      1 for me

    6. TheBiffas
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      1

    7. Jambot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      I have 1 and would advise. I also had Son to begin with, but the 4M of upgrades to have Kulu instead was too much to ignore. Rich being banned for the first game helps Kulu v Saints too.

    8. Float
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Personally prefer other 8.0 mids to Kulusevski, but 1 for sure

  6. Champ
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Any expert tips gents ? 🙂

    Dullard Team to bank a steady start:

    Mendy 4.0
    Robbo TAA Cancelo (White / 4.0)
    Saka Mount Maddison Diaz BrunoG
    Toney Kane (4.5)

    Kane not fashionable I know atm - and may become Haaland depending on preseason

    No Salah hence the pool triple up to offset that - not ideal

    Think Toney is still good value and should end the season again as one of the top fwds. Pretty secure game time as well...

    1. pundit of punts
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Jimenez for Toney maybe?

      Great fixtures for Wolves.

      Also gotta have more City attackers with such good fixtures

      1. Champ
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Cheers thanks!

  7. pundit of punts
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Bottomed -

    Ederson
    TAA - Cancelo - James - Doherty
    Salah - Diaz - Martinelli - Neto
    Haaland - Jesus

    Steele - Colback - Vestergaard - Greenwood

    Thoughts? 🙂

    1. I Member
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Template. It's good.

      1. pundit of punts
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Cheers

        Only looking at first 6-7 gws and thus heavy on City, Pool and Arsenal

        1. La Roja
          • 12 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          Why not to get a spurs attacker?

          1. pundit of punts
            • 11 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            I’d love one but can’t find a way to get Kane/Son

            1. La Roja
              • 12 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Kulu instead of Diaz?

            2. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Crazy to not get one with those opening fixtures.

              1. La Roja
                • 12 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                I know.

                I’m starting with Kane(c) instead of Haaland

                Gulp

              2. Runnerboy31
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 2 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Liverpool have better fixtures than Spurs so why would you give up Diaz for Kulu?

    2. Chris_H
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Not sure I could stomach Martinelli, Neto and Doc every week. Ederson to a 5m and put .5m into Vestergaard?

      1. pundit of punts
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        It’s a fixture thing

        What’s wrong with Doherty and Neto? Great fixtures and nailed players. Just looking at first 6-7 games

        Martinelli minutes are an issue but that’s the one risk I’m willing to take for the kind of talent that he is

    3. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Is Doherty fit and will he start? And why Ederson…

      1. pundit of punts
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Doherty should be good to go

        Ederson as the third City player. Can’t get better than a nailed 5.5 m city player for the first 6-7 gws. WC after that.

    4. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Good doc slight risk - could consider cash or Gabriel. Midfield usually is where the points are so might want to beef that up imo

      1. pundit of punts
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Cheers Champ

        Love the 8m mods but would invest in them from gw 8 onwards when I WC

        Going hard for the first 7 weeks with City, Pool and Arsenal

    5. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      why Jesus? not even on Pens.

      1. La Roja
        • 12 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        How do u know? Maybe Arteta will give him penalty duties?

        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          ...lol...I have even seen a post on here today where someone explained his MArtinelli pick by saying "I think he might be on penalties...when he plays"...lol

          1. La Roja
            • 12 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            That sounds like Jafooli

          2. The Mentaculus
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 2 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Jesus' penalty record is dreadful. Martinelli took the last pen - likely to be him or Saka

  8. Toothis
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Seeing loads of Martinelli in drafts. Great player, but are we not expecting pretty heavy rotation for him? I think he will share mins with ESR and Pepe?

    1. pundit of punts
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Peep is out of the equation. He is not even preferred as a sub and is a RW player replacing Saka most of the times.

      ESR is the only competition

      But for his price and talent if Martinelli plays 75-80 mins every game with the odd 90 mins in between then it’s worth it

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Optimistic on his mins, there, I think, but I still like him for 45-80 mins per game, with the odd cameo in between.

        1. pundit of punts
          • 11 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          High praise from Arteta last season. Great presser and I remember him getting 70 plus minutes regularly last season

          Played a few 90s as well

          A year older and such sublime finishing abilities it’s his season to kick on IMO

          1. Toothis
            • 3 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Will ESR get games at number 10 then (in place of Odegaard) or will he be benched a lot? Thought he looked brilliant last year be a shame for him if he falls down pecking order.

            1. Deulofail
              • 8 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Agree, he was better than Martinelli imo, but struggling for fitness in the second half of the season with Arteta perhaps favoring Martinelli tactically as well. Jesus has been brought in for his pressing, so if that's the game plan and Martinelli continues to start, I don't see the point of wearing him down for the full 90 mins unless it's a slow game.

              ESR is also a year older, and has proven himself at least as good a finisher than Martinelli. And Arteta prasises all players that aren't in the group who have been/are being culled. So I don't see those things as relevant to Martinelli specifically.

          2. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            5 subs simply means fewer minutes for Martinelli when compared to the second half of last season. I can't see why it would stay the same or increase. Jesus, Vieira (and maybe another attacking player) are players Arteta wants, and wants to play, so yet more reason why Martinelli's mins will more likely decrease.

        2. Winston.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          Yeah

    2. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      I think the fixtures help with that risk and the coming of Jesus should help as well

  9. zes
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    something (a bit) different (I think)

    Mendy
    TAA - Cancelo - James - Tomiyasu - some other 4.5m
    Salah - Diaz
    Haaland - Wilson - Jesus

    Bench 4.0m and 3 x4.5m mids (pointless deciding now)

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Wouldn't mind it if I liked Wilson. Too obtuse a pick with those fixtures, though, imo

      1. zes
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Yeah I get. you, my thinking is apart from the the City and Pool games his first ten are great from an attacking part of view and even then I could see him scoring in one of the two. Plus I expect a decent right winger to come in at Newcastle and for them to start strong. I reckon he could be a potential early bandwagon with those first two

  10. @persecuted_by_mods
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Amongst the sea of RMTs what are your unpopular opinions so far?

      I'll start, while Jesus is in my team I don't think he's that nailed on to be a total fpl success as people are assuming, in real world football he'll do great for arsenal but purely goals and assists I'm not too sure he's gonna make a mockery of 8m

      1. Soto Ayam
        • 4 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        He's in my team, but I'm not completely convinced. Weighing up either Wilson or Watkins also.

        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            1 year, 9 months ago

            I think he'll do well and happy to have him I just don't think he's that massively underpriced for the points he'll end up getting

            1. Soto Ayam
              • 4 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              I'm hoping that having previously worked him, arteta knows or sees something in that we haven't.

        2. The Mentaculus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 2 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          Skeptical on Jesus, Perisic, Villa, Neto, Gordon, Chelsea. Not really a fan of 532 & don't even get me started on 523

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Same on all of those except Neto, but could easily be wrong on that because while I rate the player wolves are crap

          2. Jambot
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            I have Jesus and am
            also very unsure. I don’t want a second premium up top or 2X fodder though. So Jesus it is for me

            1. @persecuted_by_mods
                1 year, 9 months ago

                I'm sticking with him don't get me wrong but come end of the season I'm not expecting him to have perform like a 9m or 10m player I think he's been priced right, even a chance he does slightly worse than what we expect for 8m

            2. Sgt Frank Drebin
              • 7 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Jesus has great stats historically, think he will do well. His consistent underperformance of xG is a slight worry, though.

              I think Haaland could a disappointment for many.

              1. @persecuted_by_mods
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  He does but Arsenal are no City. I think he'll do well I just don't think come end of the season we're gonna be thinking he performed that much above what we expect for 8m

              2. WHUFCSmith23
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Perisic: I don't see the hype. Lots of managers better than me are convinced on him though.

                Raya/Toney/Brentford: great fixtures on paper but I personally think they could be a relegation candidate. If that were to transpire then there is no such thing as good fixtures for them.

                Obviously time will tell and they are "unpopular" opinions for a reason.

                1. Nomar
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Agree with this.

            3. cravencottage
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Thoughts on Foden? He is high scoring and explosive. Yes,there is a rotation threat but should be first choice?

              1. @persecuted_by_mods
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  I think last season showed he isn't that high scoring nor explosive

                  1. Josh.E
                    • 2 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    true say

                • The Mentaculus
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 2 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Should be nailed to start the vast majority of games. Nicely priced - Håland, Foden, Cancelo should be affordable if you really want to back City for a flying start. A maybe for me

                • Soto Ayam
                  • 4 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Not many are first choice in city. I'd go Mahrez if you want high scoring and explosive.

                • Camzy
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  My plan is to start with Kulusevski and then if Foden/Mahrez/Grealish start and look good I'll bring one of them in GW2.

              2. Stimps
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Thoughts on this draft?

                Raya
                TAA Dias Perisic Jonny
                Son (c) Diaz Mount Coutinho
                Haaland Jesus

                4.0 Tomiyasu Andreas 4.5 fwd

                1. La Roja
                  • 12 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Lovely team

              3. Robson-Canoe
                • 8 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Why is Neto so popular? He didn't play much last season?

                1. Winston.
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  He’s a talented player eith good fixtures… not sure about Wolves though

                  1. Winston.
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 10 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    *w

                2. Merry Tenables
                  • 2 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Only reason he didn't play much was injury

                3. Holmes
                  • 10 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  pre-season bandwagon. Bolasie 2.0

                  1. Walter White (WW)
                    • 2 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    Shawberto Carlos 2.0

                4. Now I'm Panicking
                  • 9 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Price and hope

                5. @persecuted_by_mods
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    I'll repeat, before last year's injury season he had 19 attacking returns in 38 games minutes wise (not 38 starts either, some starts and minutes from sub appearances that add up to 38 games)

                    Did this as an 18-19 year old new to the league

                    1. @persecuted_by_mods
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        I have always seen him as one of the most talented youngsters in the league since I saw him, barring injury if he continues his trajectory he'll be at a much bigger team in no time

                  • Winston.
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 10 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    It seems that TAA+Robertson combo is not so popular here… Diaz 8.0 or Robertson 7.0 for the third Liverpool spot?

                    1. Champ
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      Robertson I think is a great option.

                    2. Camzy
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      Diaz for me.

                      We went TAA + Robbo two years ago and Liverpool couldn't keep a clean sheet in the first 4 weeks. I'd rather wait to see some defensive form before doubling up.

                      1. Winston.
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 10 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        Thanks

                  • Soto Ayam
                    • 4 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    Allison,
                    Cancelo, vvd, chill, Gabriel, cash
                    Son, saka, Diaz,
                    Haaland, jesus
                    4, 4.5, 4.5, 4.5

                    And I know there's no Salah or Trent. Jesus is the dilemma.

                  • IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                    • 7 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    a) Chilwell + Foden (4-4-2)
                    or
                    b) Tomiyasu + Vardy (4-3-3)

                    have Reece James in both

                    1. cravencottage
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      A

                    2. OShaughnessy
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      A)

                      LEI have ARS & CHE in their first 4 matches.
                      While MCI has a good run of fixtures.

                    3. Jambot
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      A

                    4. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                      • 7 Years
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      Thanks!

                  • sirmorbach
                    • 7 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    Martinelli, Neto or J. Ramsey?

                    1. cravencottage
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      In that order

                      1. sirmorbach
                        • 7 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        Cheers! Might not Saka + Martinelli be too much Arsenal though?

                      2. Winston.
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 10 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        this

                    2. The Mentaculus
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 2 Years
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      Martinelli

                      1. sirmorbach
                        • 7 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        Thanks!

                    3. Z
                      • 6 Years
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      Just wanted to know Martineli or BrunoG

                      So from your list Martineli so far, but wait and see

                      1. sirmorbach
                        • 7 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        Good one.

                  • Z
                    • 6 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    Is it "overkill" to have Martineli and Jesus?

                    1. @persecuted_by_mods
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        I see arsenal sharing the attacking points around, could be frustrating having 2 of them. You have Jesus and martinelli when saka scores and Odegaard assists

                        1. Z
                          • 6 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          I can live with that, it's a part od the game. But can i cover Arsenal fixtures with Jesus alone?

                          1. @persecuted_by_mods
                              1 year, 9 months ago

                              Go aggressive with 2 if that's what you feel will work, the fixtures are there

                          2. Sgt Frank Drebin
                            • 7 Years
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            Could be fun on the other hand if Martinelli assists to Jesus

                        2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
                          • 7 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          Currently have both in mine

                      • Jambot
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        First draft

                        Ramsdale
                        Trent Cancelo James Doherty Chilwell
                        Salah Neto Kulu
                        Haaland Jesus

                        1. Z
                          • 6 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          So far, it is a bit risky to double CFC deff...mby Perisic insted one of them?

                      • gart888
                        • 9 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        My original draft was:

                        Mendy 4.0
                        TAA Cancelo James Tomiyasu Jonny
                        Salah Diaz Rashford Neto 4.5
                        Haaland Jesus 4.5

                        Trying to find a way to upgrade one of my 4.5s to Perisic but finding it very difficult.

                        Can always downgrade the other 4.5 to Neco Williams (assuming he moves), but then I'm still 0.5 short. Best way to come up with the last 0.5?

                        A) Mendy -> 4.5
                        B) Rashford -> Martinelli (I'm really keen on the Rashford punt)
                        C) Neto -> Bailly
                        D) Other

                        1. gart888
                          • 9 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          I guess going Doherty instead of Perisic is another option.

                        2. Z
                          • 6 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          I rly like Rash a lot. He should play in front insted of CR7.

                          Only option is to swap Cancelo to Diaz, i think that Perisic will bring a lots of pts

                          1. gart888
                            • 9 Years
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            Right now I'm favouring just going Neto -> 4.5 instead.

                            Mendy
                            TAA Cancelo James Perisic 4.5
                            Salah Diaz Rashford
                            Haaland Jesus
                            4.0 4.5 4.5 4.5

                            Actually looks really strong!

                            1. Z
                              • 6 Years
                              1 year, 9 months ago

                              Looks great....but keep scouting Rash

                              1. gart888
                                • 9 Years
                                1 year, 9 months ago

                                Yeah, easy pivot to Martinelli or Neto if he's not looking good in preseason.

                      • La Roja
                        • 12 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        The template forward line seem to be 2 up too with Jesus and Haaland.

                        There haven’t been enough ROI from forwards last couple of seasons.

                        What makes everyone think 2 quality strikers but playing in new team/country will set the league fire?

                        Isn’t it more wise/safe to invest in KDB/Son/Kane with that cash for a start and go from there?

                        1. Christina.
                          • 14 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          It took me 10 mins to change my auto pick side to the one I currently have and I doubt it will differ much by the time we get to gw 1 unless my hand is forced with injuries.

                          I dont own Jesus.
                          I own Haaland, Mo, TAA, Cancelo and Son.
                          5 ATB.

                          1. La Roja
                            • 12 Years
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            Can we see these bad boys in full including the bench please?

                            1. Christina.
                              • 14 Years
                              1 year, 9 months ago

                              bench is non existent

                              4.5m(Sanchez currently)
                              Cash James Cancelo Taa White
                              Salah Son Bruno(newc) Neto
                              Haaland

                              non playing bench( I presume)

                              1. La Roja
                                • 12 Years
                                1 year, 9 months ago

                                Yeah bench is an issue there. But I like it, even Bruno pick

                                1. Christina.
                                  • 14 Years
                                  1 year, 9 months ago

                                  Im not worried about the bench no shows tbh

                                  1. Christina.
                                    • 14 Years
                                    1 year, 9 months ago

                                    Mendy(5m) over James(6) frees up 1m

                                    1. Christina.
                                      • 14 Years
                                      1 year, 9 months ago

                                      Actually 1.5m if I do james down to a 4m def

                                      1. La Roja
                                        • 12 Years
                                        1 year, 9 months ago

                                        You’re getting there. I think you need to have at least one playing sub

                              2. Jambot
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 13 Years
                                1 year, 9 months ago

                                This is almost identical to my live fpl draft. I had Erickson where Bruno is and Raya in goal but the rest was the exact same. You can potentially change Son>KDB into GW2. I essentially decided upgrading White to a wing back and getting Jesus over a mid priced midfielder was worth the Son>Kulu downgrade. 3meium is a real option though

                        2. Z
                          • 6 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          To be honest, you dont have a lot of choice....there are not a lot of strikers like couole years ago.

                          For example, Vila has good fixtures, would you take Ole or Couthino?

                        3. Sgt Frank Drebin
                          • 7 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          Jesus has great stats and has been 9m in previous seasons. Now he's 8m and going to play as a central forward probably. I can see the appeal. Especially if he finally stops underperforming his stats. Haaland is a first City forward since Aguero that is going to be central to their attack. Also not surprised by his popularity.

                        4. gart888
                          • 9 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          Haaland - could set league scoring records being the only real striker in front of one of the best teams the world has ever seen. There's a very good chance he starts next season priced at 13+. I'll take my chances on him from the start. If he's not great, easy pivot to Kane.

                          Jesus - Nailed striker for a top 6 team for 8.0. If any of the other clubs had someone in a similar position we'd be on them too.

                          1. Sgt Frank Drebin
                            • 7 Years
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            Havertz?

                            1. gart888
                              • 9 Years
                              1 year, 9 months ago

                              Yeah, that's fair enough. And he's my escape plan if Jesus is bad!

                        5. Deulofail
                          • 8 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          Not enough ROI from forwards, so we should consider Kane over Haaland and Jesus? I think the logic is a bit muddled there.

                          But I think the obvious point on Haaland and Jesus vs KDB and Son is that they are cheaper. And ultimately you have to assess case by case: the idea that ROI across one category will hold across that category one another season doesn't really fly with me. The category is somewhat arbitrary since you could also look at the top 5 forwards from a good season for those forwards vs top 5 mids in a bad season for those mids, as these could land at any point.

                          Is this going to be a better season for ROI on top 5 forwards or top 5 mids? Or All forwards vs all mids? I don't know, but I also don't really care, as I just want the best ROI for the individual players.

                          Or rather, the whole XI when I select them to play in any given week...
                          ...Traditionally cheap mids are much better than cheap FWDs, so there's more to the equation than mid-high priced FWDs vs mid-high priced mids, as you're building an entire squad.

                          1. La Roja
                            • 12 Years
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            Yes I would consider the safest pick to start, i.e penalty taker and top forward Kane over Haaland to start with. But as you said, everyone will have their own opinion and for me I prefer to wait and see for Haaland. Could well spectacularly backfire as ownership is already over 60%.

                            1. Deulofail
                              • 8 Years
                              1 year, 9 months ago

                              Yeah, assessing them player-by-player, Haaland is riskier, I agree. I wouldn't agree that this means you should not go with Haaland and/or Jesus, necessarily, though.

                              1. La Roja
                                • 12 Years
                                1 year, 9 months ago

                                Of course not. For me though, playing 2 players with new teams/country and investing almost 20m for the forward position where returns already not sustainable is a no no.

                                I can understand Jesus at least, cheaper and already adapted to country at least. But I’d rather to invest in KDB if it’s city attacking that I’m after. That’s how I would prefer to “start”.

                        6. Camzy
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 13 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          Yeah I don't like Haaland + Jesus together I think.

                          Two forwards moving to new teams. I think one or the other. And at the moment, Haaland has more upside and explosive potential.

                          1. Deulofail
                            • 8 Years
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            But why does it matter than 2 of your players are moving to new teams? I really don't get the interaction, but I'm happy for people to avoid good options because they have another good option with the same abstract feature associated with them. It's not like they are both high risks to play 0 minutes.

                            1. Camzy
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 13 Years
                              1 year, 9 months ago

                              It's just I want to avoid having an awful start by backing too many players in new surroundings like I did 2 years ago.

                              I had Werner, Havertz and Dele Alli to start that season. It didn't go well.

                            2. Camzy
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 13 Years
                              1 year, 9 months ago

                              There is more chance of things not going as plan. Haaland might not settle/be rotated in. Jesus might not start well and might not even play up front. We don't know yet. If both don't work you're in trouble. If one doesn't, well at least you can switch off him early.

                              1. La Roja
                                • 12 Years
                                1 year, 9 months ago

                                This is a very good point too. It’s just too much of a risk to start with both imo

                              2. Deulofail
                                • 8 Years
                                1 year, 9 months ago

                                This is true of every pick you make. If there was no risk associated, we would all have the 15 most obvious players. It's not even safe to go for JWP because he might not get any attacking returns for the first 6 weeks.

                                The fact that Haaland might not return many points is true of him and him alone and does not affect Jesus. If you find the risk too great for the price, and not worth the potential payoff, you shouldn't pick him (unless there are no better options). Same is true for literally every player.

                                I personally think 'moving to a new team' is an empty/unnecessary label/narrative that adds noise to decision-making. You could also consider the risk-associated labels:

                                - 'outperformed their xG last season'
                                - 'outperformed their xG 3 seasons ago'
                                - 'Featured in press getting drunk on summer break',
                                - 'incoming competition to the squad',
                                - 'multiple injuries in their careers,
                                - etc. x 10,000

                                And then check that you don't have too many of each of these categories across the whole squad. Except that would be chaos - impossible!

                                Instead you assess these things on a player-by-player basis. The same is true for me when considering players moving from one team to another. I hope that makes sense.

                                1. Deulofail
                                  • 8 Years
                                  1 year, 9 months ago

                                  What am I doing with my life...

                                2. Camzy
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 13 Years
                                  1 year, 9 months ago

                                  Why would you dismiss 'moving to a new team' as a factor? It's just as if not more important than any of those other factors you listed. At least we understand how they fit into their manager's philosophy and we have games to assess their performance. When a new transfer happens we don't have any of that so yes, it makes those players more risky to pick.

                                  Not saying they won't work out, but you could easily make a team of 'potential world beaters' like:

                                  Sterling, Mahrez, Vardy, Haaland, Jesus, James and yeah maybe it will work out some weeks but the chances of all of them working is almost zero so you do have to pick some 'reliable' picks for balance.

                                  1. Deulofail
                                    • 8 Years
                                    1 year, 9 months ago

                                    I dismiss it as a category to check your team against. Like: 'Only one player from a new team, otherwise, it's too much risk from that arbitrary category of risk'.

                                    It's a perfectly valid factor to consider for each player individually.

                          2. Z
                            • 6 Years
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            Haaland is a best, and MC is full of players who can pass the balk to him.....Jesus is good player with Pl expiriance in young and creative team. I guess they will deliver

                      • dshv
                        • 6 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        What about Nketiah?? You thinkig of jesus will be nailed??

                        1. Z
                          • 6 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          100% imo

                      • Z
                        • 6 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        Guys...is there any chance to Kulusevski play ofansive right back (wing).....because i dont see a lot of space for him in front?

                        1. La Roja
                          • 12 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          Slim to none

                          1. Z
                            • 6 Years
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            So... starting 11 in your opinion?

                            1. La Roja
                              • 12 Years
                              1 year, 9 months ago

                              Yep

                              1. Z
                                • 6 Years
                                1 year, 9 months ago

                                No, no...tell me who will start for TOT? It is hard to anme 11 players in Kontes formation

                        2. Winston.
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 10 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          I don’t see lot of space for Richarlison, but might be wrong… so Kulu is probably a great pick.

                          1. Z
                            • 6 Years
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            60M paid decent player adapted on PL....he is 100% nailed

                            1. La Roja
                              • 12 Years
                              1 year, 9 months ago

                              No, he isn’t 100% nailed at all. Conte doesn’t start players based on what club paid.

                              1. Z
                                • 6 Years
                                1 year, 9 months ago

                                Yes but he wanted him.

                                1. La Roja
                                  • 12 Years
                                  1 year, 9 months ago

                                  So? Does that mean he is 100% nailed and he will drop Kulu straight away or play him wingback?

                                  Spurs are in CL and they needed a squad depth

                                  1. Z
                                    • 6 Years
                                    1 year, 9 months ago

                                    I just see a great rotation risk there....even worst, switch of position

                                    1. La Roja
                                      • 12 Years
                                      1 year, 9 months ago

                                      Yes it are you still suggesting Richarlison 100% nailed to start with? I don’t understand your rationale of him being 60m and nailed. Not being rude, just trying to understand your logic

                            2. Winston.
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 10 Years
                              1 year, 9 months ago

                              It’s more about the team and the roles…not 100% nailed for sure

                            3. Stamford B
                              • 2 Years
                              1 year, 9 months ago

                              He’s banned first game anyway

                      • La Roja
                        • 12 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        It’s almost Kyrgios time again.

                        As bad steward as he is, lad is so entertaining and funny to watch.

                        1. Wild Card this!
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 14 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          Absolutely, proper Muppet indeed.

                        2. JBG
                          • 5 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          Man is he entertaining, I've never been a HUGE fan of tennis, but I know a lot about it and have followed it casually since early 00s(I'm in my early 30s). And Kyrgios makes me, almost, watch a whole tennis match.

                      • SEXY SOLO SAUCE
                        • 7 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        Keep coming back to this, feel it offers the best value and flexibility with the prices.

                        Kane could ofc be Haaland, but for GW1 think I will be Kane (K):

                        Sanchez
                        Trent | Cancelo | James | Chilwell | Doherty
                        Salah | Kulusevski | Martinelli
                        Kane | Jesus

                        Steele | Pereira | Colback | Greenwood

                        Thoughts? Think it’s quite template!

                        Thanks

                        1. gart888
                          • 9 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          4.5 Keeper + Chilwell vs. 4.5 Defender + Mendy is definitely a struggle for me.

                          Why have you decided on the former?

                          1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
                            • 7 Years
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            More upside to Chilwell than Mendy so easy decision for me

                            1. gart888
                              • 9 Years
                              1 year, 9 months ago

                              But until Alonso is sold, there's also a lot more downside to Chilwell.

                              1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
                                • 7 Years
                                1 year, 9 months ago

                                True, I guess could be then Perisic and Mendy - but then the headache of having to choose between James and Chilwell!

                                1. gart888
                                  • 9 Years
                                  1 year, 9 months ago

                                  For me James is the easy choice there.

                          2. Runnerboy31
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 2 Years
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            Mendy doesn’t actually offer many points - the opposite of a bonus point magnet. Was 7th for points per match last season. Think he is incredibly overhyped as an fpl asset.

                            1. gart888
                              • 9 Years
                              1 year, 9 months ago

                              Hmmm. Guaita having more points per match than him last season is wild. I owned Guaita for a little while and it was awful.

                          3. TheBiffas
                            • 3 Years
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            It would be 5.5 defender

                            1. gart888
                              • 9 Years
                              1 year, 9 months ago

                              Yeah, I get that Chilwell costs 1.0 more than Mendy, but it seems like most drafts are conceding they need to take either a 4.5 keeper or defender.

                          4. Nomar
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 14 Years
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            Think of it this way.

                            If all things are equal, the difference between Sanchez and Mendy is likely to be about 25 points.

                            The difference between Chilwell and a £4.5 defender could be 50+ points.

                            The gap between keeper points is usually quite small in comparison, but premium defenders can comfortably outscore their £4.5m counterparts.

                        2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                          • 7 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          Like it a lot!

                        3. Float
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 6 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          5 at the back =/= flexibility, IMO

                      • apprehensivepipe4
                        • 3 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        RMT:

                        Mendy (Vegovuc)

                        TAA, Cancelo, James, Botman, Tomiyasu

                        Salah, KDB, Diaz, Coutinho (Pereira)

                        Jesus (4.5, 4.5)

                        1. Champ
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 13 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          Pretty good. Not convinced on if coutinho will rediscover form but good luck.

                        2. bitm2007
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 9 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          It's looks over budget which is a good sign, I would be concerned about your bench however if Jesus doesn't play you are likely to be down to 10 men as 5-5-0 isn't a valid formation.

                      • Stamford B
                        • 2 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        I don’t think I’ve ever picked a team as quickly as this pre season. I wouldn’t say I’m 100% ecstatic but hopefully the transfer window will through up a few more possibilities.

                      • svgcr
                        • 11 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        How’s this Salah-Son-Haaland draft looking?

                        Raya - 4.0

                        Robertson - Chilwell - tomiyasu - Jonny - 4.0

                        Salah - Son - ASM - Neto - Andreas

                        Haaland - Jesus- 4.5

                        1. cravencottage
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 12 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          Looks good- why Jonny vs Ait-Nouri ?

                          1. svgcr
                            • 11 Years
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            Rate them similarly. I’ll wait for the pre-season form

                      • sirmorbach
                        • 7 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        A. Saka + Brennan Johnson first sub
                        B. Jesus + Bruno G., Martinelli rotation

                        1. The Mentaculus
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • Has Moderation Rights
                          • 2 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          Seems a lot of money on the bench in both. I prefer Saka or Martinelli over Jesus. Forest's opening fixtures don't scream goals to me but I do think Johnson has great potential. Bruno G doesn't interest me too much

                          1. sirmorbach
                            • 7 Years
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            Many thanks, sir, very insightful. Saka and Martinelli both too much Arsenal, you reckon?

                      • Runnerboy31
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 2 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        Which one:

                        A. Cancelo + Countinho
                        B. Dias / Laporte + Mount / Saka / Kulu

                        1. Nomar
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 14 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          A