Scout Notes

FPL pre-season: £4.0m defender Williams impresses

There were more pre-season friendlies contested in the last 24 hours and we’ve got all the goal, assist and line-up information you need in this latest Scout Notes article.

Nottingham Forest, Leicester City, Wolverhampton Wanderers and Aston Villa are covered in this piece, with the big guns of Arsenal, Manchester City and Chelsea – along with Everton – to follow later.

We’re also keeping tabs on the minutes played in all of these warm-up fixtures, with Premium Members of Fantasy Football Scout able to access this information at the bottom of this article.

READ MORE: Tuesday friendly round-up: Martial, Rashford and Sancho on target


NOTTINGHAM FOREST 3-1 HERTHA BERLIN

  • Goals: L Taylor x2, own-goal
  • Assists: McKenna, Donnelly

Match highlights

Neco Wiliams (£4.0m) impressed at right wing-back as Nottingham Forest defeated Hertha Berlin on Wednesday.

The bargain-bin FPL defender was instrumental in his side’s first two goals, firstly providing the nimble footwork and cross that Scott McKenna (£4.5m) nodded on for Lyle Taylor (£4.5m) to convert from point-blank range.

Williams’ through-ball for Taiwo Awoniyi (£6.0m) was then fumbled by the Hertha goalkeeper, with Taylor mopping up to double his tally.

The 20%-owned Williams had earlier supplied another chance for Awoniyi so although there was no attacking return on paper, there was plenty of promise from the budget Fantasy asset.

On the opposite flank, Harry Toffolo (£4.5m) made his debut on the same evening that positional rival Omar Richards (£4.5m) was ruled out for up to 10 weeks with a hairline leg fracture.

“Omar has picked up an injury, we are still getting to the bottom of it. But it is unfortunate what has happened. It is not going to be a few days. But it is not going to be months and months and months.” – Steve Cooper

Elsewhere, Brennan Johnson (£6.0m) – heavily involved in all set plays – was deployed slightly deeper in the number 10 role of a 3-4-1-2, a tactical tweak that may be reversed if Forest can secure the signature of Jesse Lingard.

And while the sight of a £4.5m FPL forward scoring a brace grabs the attention, it was only a few weeks ago that Taylor was reportedly made available for transfer by Forest after spending part of last season out on loan.

£4.5m midfielders Jack Colback and Cafu were yet again paired in the middle of the park, meanwhile, but Forest did add to their engine-room options with the capture of Lewis O’Brien on Wednesday. First-team regular Ryan Yates (£5.0m) is also still to return from injury.

Nottingham Forest XI (3-4-1-2): Henderson; Worrall, Niakhate, McKenna; Williams, Colback, Cafu, Toffolo; Johnson, Awoniyi, L Taylor

Subs on: Biancone, Cook, Mbe Soh, Laryea, Mighten, Ojeda, D Taylor, Hammond, Fewster, Donnelly


ASTON VILLA 1-0 BRISBANE ROAR

  • Goals: Archer
  • Assists: Watkins

Match highlights

Cameron Archer (£4.5m) made it two goals in as many pre-season games with the match-winner against Brisbane Roar but whether he will become the pick of the bargain-bin FPL forwards is still uncertain.

It’s not just pecking order (third in line for a striking spot) or formation choice (a 4-3-2-1/4-3-3 would limit the opportunities further) but whether he’ll be even at Aston Villa come Gameweek 1, with the young hitman saying that a decision is about to be made over whether he departs on loan.

“Yeah he [Gerrard] said at the start that he’ll let me know whether I’ll go out on loan or not at the end of the Australia tour.

“So I’m going to try my best to impress him. Obviously I would prefer to play here but if I need to go out on loan to play games, because that’s what young players need, we’ll see.” – Cameron Archer

Archer, part of a front two with Ollie Watkins (£7.5m) in the second half, swept home his strike partner’s mishit shot to hand Villa the win, shooting off-target with two decent chances either side of that goal.

The first-half set-up saw Philippe Coutinho (£7.0m) playing slightly deeper as a number eight, rather than ‘in the hole’ where we’re accustomed to seeing him, so it’ll be interesting to monitor his usage in pre-season as we assess his FPL potential for 2022/23.

Formation choice might also be key for Leon Bailey (£5.0m), who again shone in a wide role in the first half. The Jamaica international was at least used as part of a front two towards the end of last season, so it’s perhaps not a given that his starting chances rest solely on Gerrard’s use of wingers.

And as previously mentioned in last week’s write-up, the acquisition of Boubakar Kamara (£5.0m) looks to have given Lucas Digne (£5.0m) and Matty Cash (£5.0m) even more license to push forward, with the pair noticeably high up the field against Brisbane.

Aston Villa first-half starting XI (4-3-3): Martinez, Cash, Carlos, Chambers, Digne, McGinn, Kamara, Coutinho, Bailey, Traore, Ings.

Aston Villa second-half starting XI (4-3-1-2): Martinez, Kesler Hayden, Konsa, Mings, Augustinsson, Iroegbunam, Luiz, J.Ramsey, Buendía, Archer, Watkins.


HULL CITY 0-4 LEICESTER CITY

  • Goals: Daka, Barnes, Fofana, Maddison
  • Assists: Soumare, Maddison, Dewsbury-Hall

Match highlights

After setting up a strike in last week’s draw with Leuven, James Maddison (£8.0m) carried on his pre-season form with a goal and an assist in Wednesday’s thumping of Hull.

Maddison delivered 22 attacking returns in his final 23 appearances of 2021/22 and was in eye-catching mood on Humberside, providing a peach of a cross for Wesley Fofana (£4.5m) to nod in and then bagging a fine goal of his own to round off the scoring.

The midfielder also whistled a direct free-kick narrowly wide.

It was only really the second half of the Foxes’ latest pre-season friendly that would have been of much interest to Fantasy managers, with Brendan Rodgers sending out mostly his second string in the opening 45 minutes.

The glorified reserves were in a wing-back system prior to the interval, with Patson Daka (£6.0m) on target, but Rodgers changed to a 4-3-3 after the interval with the big guns of Maddison, Jamie Vardy (£9.5m) et al sent on.

“We played two different systems and the players played the systems very well. We need that adaptability and we showed great quality tonight. 

“The goals were very good, with good build-up play, but everything was connected and I was really pleased with some of the tactical things we’ve been working on. Especially, with the second-half team, some of the areas we looked to get into, with full-backs, with the no. 8s, it pushes us higher up the pitch when we can be more aggressive. With and without the ball, it was a pleasing night.” – Brendan Rodgers

Harvey Barnes (£7.0m) was also on the scoresheet but his strike was heavily deflected.

If there’s anything to read into the ‘first-team’ selection in the second half, then James Justin (£4.5m) and Ricardo Pereira (£4.5m) have the early advantage in the game-time battle of the attractively priced full-backs.

Leicester City first-half XI (5-3-2): Iversen, Thomas, Soyuncu, Vestergaard, Amartey, Castagne, Tielemans, Mendy, Praet, Perez, Daka

Leicester City second-half XI (4-3-3): Iversen, Pereira, Fofana, Evans, Justin, Soumare, Maddison, Dewsbury-Hall, Albrighton, Vardy, Barnes


WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS 4-0 ALAVES
WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS 1-2 LEVANTE

  • Goals: Jimenez pen, Neto, Podence, Kilman | Toti
  • Assists: Neto, Gibbs-White, Jonny | Ronan

Match highlights v Alaves

Wolves contested two pre-season friendlies in the space of 12 hours, the second of which was early this morning against Levante.

Bruno Lage named his strongest starting XI in the initial game against Alaves and there were some interesting personnel and tactical decisions to note.

The first was Lage’s setting up of Wolves in a more attacking 4-3-3/4-2-3-1, systems that the club have been working on in their training camp.

Another was the deployment and impressive performance of Morgan Gibbs-White (£5.5m) on the right of the Wolves attack, with the budget FPL midfielder supplying the assist for Pedro Neto‘s (£5.5m) strike.

You’re not wrong in thinking all this sounds familiar: Lage used a back four for much of pre-season last summer before belatedly switching to the wing-back system we saw for much of 2021/22, while Gibbs-White was heavily used in the friendlies before departing on loan.

And, true to form, Lage sent out his troops in a 3-4-3 in the match against Levante on Thursday morning, although it was a significantly weaker side on paper.

Neto, the sixth-most-owned FPL midfielder at present, had earlier won the penalty that Raul Jimenez (£7.5m) converted, while Jonny (£4.5m) – whose attacking threat wasn’t diminished by a shift to full-back from wing-back – crossed for the pint-sized Daniel Podence (£4.5m) to nod in after the break.

There were encouraging displays by Podence, Neto and Gibbs-White in a fluent Wolves attack, although Lage’s side were admittedly up against a side from the Spanish second tier.

 “Honestly, I’m better than I thought. There were difficult times before but I finished the season well. I had more games than I was expecting and this summer I needed the break to get my knee back.

“Now I’m feeling very good and I think that my levels are rising and rising to be better than I was before.

“It’s all about confidence. It’s always difficult for a player to come on the pitch and think ‘oh it will hurt again’ but what I want to enjoy every game that I have.” – Pedro Neto

The fit-again Max Kilman (£4.5m) rounded off the scoring with a solo goal from his own half.

Podence and Yerson Mosquera (£4.0m) were both sent off in an ill-tempered defeat to Levante, meanwhile, with Toti (£4.0m) nodding in Wolves’ consolation.

Gibbs-White started as a ‘false nine’ in this match before being replaced at half-time.

Wolves XI v Alaves: Sarkic, Jonny (Lembikisa 77), Coady (Collins 59), Boly (Kilman 46), Ait-Nouri (Toti 77), Neves (Griffiths 77), Moutinho (Hodge 77), Dendoncker (Podence 46), Gibbs-White (Corbeanu 59), Jimenez (Cundle 77), Neto (Campbell 77).

Wolves XI v Levante: Smith, Mosquera (Lembikisa 46), Collins (Toti 64), Toti (Boly 46), Bueno, Dendoncker (Ronan 64), Ronan (Griffiths 46), Corbeanu, Cundle, Podence (Hodge 46), Gibbs-White (Coady 46).

PRE-SEASON MINUTES TRACKER

Palmer latest

666 Comments Post a Comment
  1. McGinn
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    A - TAA / KDB / Nketiah

    or

    B Robbo / Haaland / Saka

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      B

  2. tom66
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Meslier
    TAA - James - Trippier - Dalot
    Salah - KDB - Neto - Bailey
    Kane - Jesus
    (Subs: Sanchez - Andreas - Williams - Greenwood)

    Bailey likely to start?
    James or Chilwell?

  3. Timbomars
    • 10 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Can someone give me a harsh critique on what I might be missing here because this feels really good to me:

    Mendy

    TAA / Cancelo / James / Tomiyasu / Dalot

    Salah / Martinelli / Neto / Son

    Haaland

    Bench: Gazzaniga / Andreas / Greenwood / Archer

    1. Blues for Salah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      The only thing I'd be worried about is the commitment to a zero from your F position if Haaland is rested. Six game weeks a season?

      1. Timbomars
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        I was thinking this, I can do:

        Son > Bailey
        Archer > Kane

        And that feels a bit less risky…

        1. Blues for Salah
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          Given that more value can be found in D and M, I wonder about whether that much investment in F is the best use of funds. That change you propose leaves you very thin for points in the midfield for the sake of having splashy names up top.

          Son and Archer to a 8.0 M and a forward who will play regularly for his club but is cheap enough to you to count as bench insurance might be an option.

          I'll leave it up to someone else to chime in and name the cheapest forward who looks to be in line to get somewhat regular minutes. I settled on Brennan Johnson at 6.0 as my forward insurance option.

          1. Timbomars
            • 10 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            I really want some Spurs cover though. Kulu could be an option but I’ve seen a lot of scare stories on here about how prone he will be to rotation now Richarlison is around. A thinker!

            1. Blues for Salah
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Then by all means keep your Spurs cover. It's your team, and if Spurs cover is worth the price of taking blanks at F when Haaland experiences the wonders of Pep roulette, then that's cool with me.

              Threemium rosters are going to have holes, and that's okay I suppose if you think that 38M or so of spending (three primos plus a bench fodder slot) gets you maximum points when distributed over three players rather than spread over four.

              I'm CTID, but I can't justify that level of spending on Haaland until I see how things work out in reality. I'd rather have Jesus (who feels to me like he's about as nailed as he's been in 2000 years) and some cover at F that actually might outperform some of the members of your current XI in some weeks.

          2. InsertPunHere
            • 1 Year
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Solanke?

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      I wouldn't want to start Dalot, Tomiyasu, Neto every week.

      1. Timbomars
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Who would you suggest in terms of alts in their price bracket? I can’t have heavy hitters in every position

        1. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          You can always drop one of them.

    3. Coaly
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Pathetic team. Effectively a 4-4-1

      Need another option up top or in midfield.

      Son to Kulusevski would give you some room to make this less awful

      Harsh enough?

      1. Timbomars
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Haha I didn’t mean that harsh!

        Although I assume you’re only being half serious haha. I am going to bring Kane in by moving Son to a cheap enabler, feels a bit less exposed then!

  4. Deulofail
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    What do you mean by 'nailed on'?

    A) Will start
    B) Will feature
    C) & play 60+ mins
    D) & play 70+ mins
    E) & play 80+ mins
    F) & play 90+ mins
    G) Every game
    H) in the next GW
    I) in the next 5 GWs
    J) In the next 10 GWs
    K) Over the whole season
    L) [Add your own]
    M) [Add your own]
    N) [Add your own]
    O) [Add your own]

    E.g. 'BGJ'
    Or 'ACL[except easy fixtures]'

    Pretty sure category 'nailed on' is useless tbh, and even more so with 5 subs. Players can be 'nailed' and play 45 mins per game as far as I can tell. Frequency/likelihood of reaching 60 mins could be more useful.

    Though for forwards, mins per game is surely more important than frequency of starts, which is more important than nailedness (i.e. 'starts all' vs 'does not start all').

    Thoughts?

    1. TheBiffas
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      ACGK

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      AGL

      Will start every game when fit

      1. TheBiffas
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        When fit is a given surely

        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Supreme nailed= Harry kane on one leg, Rashford under Ole with a broken back

      2. The Wanton Trader
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        ACGK I reckon.

      3. Boly Would
        • 7 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        AGK

      4. InsertPunHere
        • 1 Year
        1 year, 9 months ago

        AD(not quite G - may be rotated in PL due to European fixtures/cup finals etc.)J/until something changes massively eg a new signing in their position.

      5. Maddi Son
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        LMNO

      6. Blues for Salah
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        ACGK for at least most of my opening day roster, but . . .

        ADG and somewhere between I and J depending on where we are in the schedule. As much as planned transfers can come back to bite you, it's definitely the case that you will have some free ones that you can use.

        Finding value players who are going to be as AG as possible seems to me to be an important element of maximizing production.

      7. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Thank you all for confirming my suspicions 😉

      8. PaddyPyne
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        A

      9. LangerznMash
        • 7 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        ACKO 95% of the time.

    3. Flynny
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Hi..Any thoughts on this latest draft? Moved away from big at the back with perisic a doubt - and not sure chilwell starts the season...

      Raya 4m
      Taa cancelo James dalot neco
      Salah diaz sancho neto andreas
      Haaland jesus greenwood

      Thanks

      1. @persecuted_by_mods
          1 year, 9 months ago

          Always read your "hi" as

          https://youtu.be/-zvUuGuwM94

        • TheBiffas
          • 3 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          Much better

          1. Flynny
            • 9 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Thanks

        • Carlton P
          • 8 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          Has Chilwell not been in preseason?

          1. Flynny
            • 9 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Tuchel I think said chilwell is being eased back. He has had some minutes but defo didn't start yesterday and possible alonso starts the season

            With chilwell and perisic doubtful big St the back is getting smaller

      2. I Member
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Someone talk me into or out of Rashford. Don't care which one.

        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            1 year, 9 months ago

            English Mbappe

          • Holmes
            • 10 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Apparently he is also known as Trashford

            1. @persecuted_by_mods
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Well, we've collectively done what he asked for. The choice is his

                1. FPL Brains
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 12 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Lol

            2. One Man
              • 7 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              He’s good value especially if United don’t sign anybody. Can always move to another 6.5 if he doesn’t shine.

            3. Carlton P
              • 8 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              170+ points for two consecutive seasons before last seasons terrible showing. 6.5 for likely 140+ points….straight in my team

            4. Karhumies
              • 11 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              At 6.5 price point, it's currently a choice between Rashford + 4.5 fwd vs Mitrovic + 4.5 mid vs Neto + 4.5 fwd + 1M ITB.

            5. InsertPunHere
              • 1 Year
              1 year, 9 months ago

              He plays for Manchester United Football Club.

            6. Warby84
              • 8 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              I plan to move to Zaha if all goes wrong

            7. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
              • 10 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              He may have changed but owning Rashford and watching him live while in your team has been at times the most painful viewing I have ever endured

            8. Blues for Salah
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              I'm on him right now after looking at . . .

              1) His history
              2) His price
              3) The chances that United will continue to be a complete train wreck.

              I think the odds of #3 are actually pretty small, so I see a lot of potential upside to the pick. If United continue to be FC Dumpster Fire, I can lateral out to a safe and boring option like JWP.

              If you asked me for a list of players who are potentially seriously underpriced, this guy would definitely be in the conversation. Understanding how it's relatively easy to fold the hand if it looks bad, I want in on this from day one.

            9. LangerznMash
              • 7 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              The Conservatives are still in power so he has a lot of work to do with ongoing poverty crisis.

          • seamusseamus
            • 9 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Haaland must have some ceiling if he's priced at 11.5m considering that he's plagued by injury and new to the league

            1. TheBiffas
              • 3 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Do you know who Haaland is

            2. InsertPunHere
              • 1 Year
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Would not say ‘plagued’…
              I would say that most prolific young striker of the last three years marrying under the tutelage of Pep in a team famous for creating loads of chances probably has quite a high ceiling…

              1. InsertPunHere
                • 1 Year
                1 year, 9 months ago

                *maturing

            3. out for a goalkick
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              I seem to remember everyone getting VERY excited about Ronaldo & Lukaku last year - look how that turned out?

          • Carlton P
            • 8 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Let’s see if I get a response on the fourth post!!
            Ederson
            TAA l Robbo l Cancelo l James l Chilwell
            Salah l Maddison l Mount l Rashford
            Jesus
            4.0 l Andreas l Greenwood l Jones
            A) Ederson, Maddison, Mount + 4.5 striker
            B) Raya, Neto, 4.5 mid + Kane/Haaland

            1. McGinn
              • 11 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Very solid squad not guna lie. Only ? is over Rashford and the lack of City attack.

            2. TheBiffas
              • 3 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              B

            3. adstomko
              • 7 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Similar to mine. I prefer Gabriel to 2 Chelsea defenders at the moment, especially when we have Mount too. Wait & see on Rashford imo.

            4. nolard
              • 9 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              B

          • adstomko
            • 7 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            My bold prediction:
            Tottenham to win the Premier League.
            Haaland to be injury prone, Liverpool to remain unsettled without Mané.

            1. seamusseamus
              • 9 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              I agree

            2. Grande Tubarão
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 2 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Between Spurs and Itd for me. Maybe Brentford.

              1. Grande Tubarão
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 2 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                *Utd

            3. Maddi Son
              • 6 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Spurs winning the league crossed my mind but seemed too outrageous to say it out loud.

            4. TheBiffas
              • 3 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Wrong, maybe, wrong

            5. InsertPunHere
              • 1 Year
              1 year, 9 months ago

              REMAIN (no italics on keyboard) unsettled?

            6. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
              • 13 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Very bold prediction
              I can't agree with spurs winning the league sorry. Good manager but lacking depth in the squad still
              Haaland injury prone - possibly but city have already said they will manage his minutes according to Atheletic
              Mane was a key player, will be interesting to see how Diaz steps up. I know he looked the part end of last season but that was with Mane too. I think Liverpool will be OK but they may struggle to score as many goals this season

          • McGinn
            • 11 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            My first 5-4-1 Threemium draft. I feel it's pretty solid. Any critique?

            Raya
            TAA / James / Doherty / Walker / Tomiyasu
            Salah / KDB / Son (c) / Bruno G
            Nketiah

            Bench Fodder.

            1. adstomko
              • 7 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Guessing you think Nketiah is going to play 30mins-ish a game?

              1. McGinn
                • 11 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                He's looking integral to Arsenal attack. Plus Gooner fans I know think he'll be 100% with saka/jesus in the starting 11

                1. out for a goalkick
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  I think any team picking a bench full of non-playing fodder is in for a rude awakening - COVID is still going to make players drop out of squads at the last minute - personally I’m leaning to having at least 2 playing subs in the 4.5-5.5 region.

                  1. McGinn
                    • 11 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    The bench has 2 x 90 minuters to cover it. Plus this season you're getting 3 WCs so very different circumstances. You want the sprint not the marathon this season. But each to their own! 😀

          • Warby84
            • 8 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Meslier
            Trent Cancelo Digne/Trip Justin (Williams)
            Salah Diaz Rashford Neto (Andreas)
            Jesus Kane (Mitrovic)

            Might aim to make Rashford Zaha by GW3 if it goes wrong..

            1. nolard
              • 9 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Is decent - might go for another 8.0 mid instead of Diaz, as you have Salah.

            2. out for a goalkick
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              I don’t like nor get the Neto hype - wolves score minimally.

          • nolard
            • 9 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            RMT please:

            Sanchez - Steele
            TAA, Cancelo, James, Justin - N Williams
            Saka, Bowen, Mount, Diaz - Pereira
            Kane, Vardy - Greenwood

            Jesus is the obvious one, but I chose Saka above him. Haaland is on hold for now. Justin is also on observation and can be replaced if he isn't a starter.

            1. adstomko
              • 7 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Tempted by the Justin/Neco rotation myself.

            2. InsertPunHere
              • 1 Year
              1 year, 9 months ago

              But, but… Salah.
              Nice draft, impressive midfield.

              1. nolard
                • 9 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Yeah, I think it is too expensive, so I reckon I will move one to jump on a bandwagon when it arrives.

              2. nolard
                • 9 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Salah of course lacking, and City attacker, but Haaland too uncertain as of now, and KDB is just too expensive I think. KDB+a 5,5 mid might not outscore Bowen+Mount for instance.

                1. InsertPunHere
                  • 1 Year
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  I think there will definitely be a bandwagon 5.5 mid in the opening few GWs, so that might not be as bad an option as you might think in the short term.

                  1. nolard
                    • 9 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    Something to ponder for sure!

                    1. nolard
                      • 9 Years
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      Sanchez/Pope - Steele
                      TAA, Cancelo, James, Cash/Justin - N Williams
                      KDB, Mount, Diaz, 5.5 - Pereira
                      Kane, Jesus - Greenwood

                      Would then be one option.

                      But is it better?

            3. JELLYFISH
              • 12 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Not bad at all, but I don't fancy Leicester this season ... a club in decline (sadly, because I like them). Word is they've got money issues and need to offload....hence I am avoiding Leicester in my team

              1. nolard
                • 9 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Yes, this could be a worry. Also not convinced by them. Squad is decent though and they have less games this year.

                Newcastle could be an option instead.

              2. nolard
                • 9 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Justin could become Cash, if I find 0.5.

            4. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
              • 10 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              May as well get Madders and have all the mid 8s

              1. nolard
                • 9 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                If I ditch Vardy, he would be one of the mids. I won't have both.

            5. out for a goalkick
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Premium Mid > Premium Forward.

              You have 2 of the latter.

          • Snoop Udogie Dogg
            • 3 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Is Taylor a likely starter for Forest?

            1. It’s A Joke
              • 13 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              No

          • Bobby Digital
            • 6 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Grealish Mahrez or Foden?

            Community Shield will probably tell us more...

            1. TheBiffas
              • 3 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Mahrez

            2. InsertPunHere
              • 1 Year
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Mahrez if I had to choose any of them, but I’d stay away from any and all City wingers period.

              1. Bobby Digital
                • 6 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                I'd like Foden the most, but he didn't travel on the tour, so he might not start.

                1. DavvaMC
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 3 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  I think this was because of Covid restrictions, and vaccination etc.

            3. out for a goalkick
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Mahrez - but then again I thought the same last pre-season. No Sterling in theory should provide more EPL opportunities - at least until UCL starts after GW4.

          • IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
            • 7 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Moved away from three premiums in my latest one. how does it look?

            Sanchez Steele
            Trent Cancelo James Trippier
            Salah Diaz Saka Rashford Dasilva
            Kane Johnson Plange

            1. InsertPunHere
              • 1 Year
              1 year, 9 months ago

              I feel it’s missing another premium. No. Stop it.
              Who’s your fifth defender?

              1. TheBiffas
                • 3 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Wrong

                1. TheBiffas
                  • 3 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Oops

                2. InsertPunHere
                  • 1 Year
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Wasn’t aware there was a PL player by that name.

                3. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                  • 7 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  surely you mean strong. thanks.

              2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                • 7 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                sorry, it's Williams.

                1. InsertPunHere
                  • 1 Year
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  2 8m mids plus those four at the back is impressive.

            2. Alan Watts
              • 5 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Like this ...

              Doherty over Trippier?

              Cancello not essential for first few fixtures ?
              City could concede away WHAM and NEWC

              5m defender for cancello allows Jesus instead of Johnson

              1. InsertPunHere
                • 1 Year
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Last Christmas, I gave you my Hart, but the very next day, Pep threw it away…

              2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                • 7 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Trippier is the best 5m to me
                Cancelo is on there

          • The Mentaculus
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 2 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Looks to me like there may be a free, legal (although may require VPN) stream of Liverpool v RBL on Servus TV. Austrian TV channel I think. Anyone know it / used it before?

            1. @persecuted_by_mods
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Just find an LFCTV stream, plenty around

                Side note, were you on this site previously under a different name? (You may plead the fifth if you wish, just curious)

                1. The Mentaculus
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 2 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  I was actually willing to pay a monthly subscription to LFCTV (only £4 or sth) but was having problems with it. Don't seem to have the best of skill/luck with the dodgier streams. So legal & prob in German it is!

                  Side note - No, I joined last summer. Had never played FPL before last season

            2. Wolfman180
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Would you rather have...?
              A) Cresswell, Salah
              B) James, Son

              1. Bobby Digital
                • 6 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                B

              2. InsertPunHere
                • 1 Year
                1 year, 9 months ago

                A with a different defender - Cresswell a bad pick at 5 imo.

              3. out for a goalkick
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Creswell after a few GW’s - perhaps Trippier to start with? Or Walker?

            3. apprehensivepipe4
              • 3 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              RMT

              Mendy (Steele)

              TAA, James, Dias, Cash, Botman

              Salah, Mahrez, Diaz (Colback, Andreas)

              Kane, Jesus (Forss)

              1. The Spion Kloppite
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                would you know if Dias is injured or not??

            4. Alan Watts
              • 5 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Best 5m defender and why:

              Zinchenko or Trippier

              1. Alan Watts
                • 5 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                For the 1st 4/5 fixtures..

                1. Blues for Salah
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 4 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  I want to see how Arteta uses Zinky before I go in on him.

                  I'm sitting on Kyle Walker right now as a placeholder because it looks to me like he's going to play for the first few weeks at least given that Pep is pretty much short of options to start the season. No matter who City bring in, I don't see Walker losing his slot for at least most of August.

                  1. Alan Watts
                    • 5 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    Good points..

                    Might get an indication on Zinc in preseason, still a good option if left back

                    1. TanN
                      • 3 Years
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      Zinchenko will likely be used as a midfielder for Arsenal (according to lots of reports).

                      The question is would FPL change his position? If not, he will get CS points while playing in midfield and therefore he will be a bargain at 5.0 - never mind Neto/Bailey/Andreas etc he would be the go to mid in the price bracket

                      1. InsertPunHere
                        • 1 Year
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        Don’t think they’ve done position changes mid-season before? Otherwise Lundstram/Dallas would have had their value cut in half during their big seasons.

                      2. Blues for Salah
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 4 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        His position in FPL won't be changed. He's a D for the rest of this year. Of course he's now counting on Arsenal rather than City for CS points.

                        I've heard that he's going to be deployed as a midfielder by Arteta, but what's left to be seen is how he's going to be deployed in the midfield. If his xGi doesn't look like it's going to jump because he's being played as some kind of deep-lying ball-winning MF (Xhaka/Partey position), then the extra minutes he'll get moving to Arsenal still might not be enough to justify the investment.

                        Will he be more valuable than a healthy Tierney? I need to see some games before I can answer that. If it looks like he's *clearly* more valuable than a healthy Tierney, then I'd argue that he enters the must-have conversation.

                        1. Dthinger
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 7 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          I agree with all of this, and would add that I think Zinchenko has LESS of an attacking threat as a holding mid than as a fullback, so I'm less likely to pick him if he is playing in Arsenal's midfield.

                        2. Blues for Salah
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 4 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          Thinking about the midfield deployment question and that Arteta looks to be comfortable making Arsenal into some kind of "City 2.0".

                          Would it be beyond the stretch of the imagination to see that Zinky is being brought in to play the Rodri role? (deep-lying, range of passing, pops up at edge of box here and there)

                          If Zinky plays regularly, what's his xGi in that role? I'm intrigued enough to watch it very carefully, but since he hasn't even officially been introduced as an Arsenal player (photo holding up the shirt), I don't know if you're going to get a full read on the situation for at least a few game weeks.

                          Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I'm of the opinion that the time required to see what Zinky has to offer is around the same amount of time as Kyle Walker's shelf life as a nailed starter.

              2. 1-1 at Newcastle
                • 10 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Trippier for now.. Zinchenko in future maybe once we know his role and influence

            5. Earn your Spurs
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              How would you get TAA into this team, or would you just run with this?

              Raya (Balcombe)
              Robertson, Cancelo, James, Tomiyasu (Neco)
              Salah, Saka, Diaz, Neto (Andreas)
              Kane, Jesus (Greenwood)

              Thanks 🙂

              1. InsertPunHere
                • 1 Year
                1 year, 9 months ago

                In order of preference:
                James + Tomiyasu -> 2x 5m
                Jesus -> Wilson/Toney/Watkins
                Saka/Diaz -> Sancho

              2. Fatboy_Slim
                • 6 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Just run with it as on an average Robertson is just 0.1 points per match lesser than TAA, so for 0.5 cheaper he is a brilliant option, and your team is very stable

              3. Cheeky Onion
                • 6 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                I'm in the same pickle trying to upgrade Robbo to TAA. Options as I see it are:

                A) James + Tomi > Cash + Trippier
                B) Saka + Tomi > Odegaard + Cash/Trippier (+0.5)
                C) Keep

            6. svgcr
              • 11 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Was James playing CB? Concerned?

              1. Collie01
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Yes I think so and I think it's worth monitoring. Chelsea CB, and defense in general, is still much very up in the air.

              2. Blues for Salah
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Not at all with Kounde and Cool Baby coming in.

              3. TanN
                • 3 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                I don't want to spread this around too much but this is my theory on the James vs Chilwell debate...

                James' very high ownership (44.1%) means that a differntial option (in Chilwell @ just 11%) is quite appealing.
                Chilwell is less likely to play CB than James --> more attacking returns for Chilwell

                Particularly with a lot of high ownership players I think Chilwell is a nice, slightly off template pick with a higher ceiling than James (if Chelsea do fail to sign another CB then he will likely play CB - would you pay 6.0m for a Chelsea CB?)

                1. Blues for Salah
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 4 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Secret safe with me!

                  1. TanN
                    • 3 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    ...thanks

                    I just feel the odd 'differential' could make all the difference when lots of very template teams start FPL

                    1. Blues for Salah
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 4 Years
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      You've made a very clever observation. If Chelsea are playing with wing-backs, then are James and Chilly basically the same guy? Unless Tuchel is definitely telling the pair "you go forward, and the other one stays back", their per-game averages suggest that one isn't necessarily all that different from the other. The eye test might give you a clear answer on Cancelo versus Walker, but I don't see the same difference between James and Chilly.

                      Considerations regarding differentials and which of the two is the more likely to be deputized into a CB position are well worth making.

              4. DeathoftheParty
                • 7 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                He'll be rattlin up the right wing come GW1...

              5. The Mentaculus
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 2 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Wouldn't be too concerned, still a temporary CB shortage

              6. RichieW
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                James Kounde Silva Koulibally Chilwell

                Silva will prob be rotated with Chalobah/Sarr

            7. TanN
              • 3 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              RMT

              Meslier (Raya)
              Trent Cancelo Robbo Perisic Tomi
              Coutinho Martinelli Salah KDB (Andreas)
              Jesus (Greenwood Plange)

              ...areas I'm willing to change:
              1) KDB --> Haaland
              2) Robbo --> Chilwell and Martinelli --> Odegaard (or other mid for 7.0 or less)
              3) Salah --> L.Diaz

              1. InsertPunHere
                • 1 Year
                1 year, 9 months ago

                If you’re going for 2 I’d use the spare money to upgrade Coutinho to Diaz.

                1. TanN
                  • 3 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  good idea that, but I don't like having my eggs in one basket i.e. two Liverpool wingers

                  1. InsertPunHere
                    • 1 Year
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    Other 8m mids are available… Mount is my second choice.

              2. School of Poch
                • 8 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Not a fan of 2 x 4.5s for GK, probs change one to a 4.0. There are some doubts about how nailed Perisic and Tomi will be at the start of the season. 2 4.5s up top might be risky too, but move one would sort that

            8. Rhodes your boat
              • 7 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Hi all, had a season off last year but been playing around with a team what’s your thoughts?

              Sanchez
              Cancelo James perisic
              Salah Diaz rashford guimares
              Haaland Jesus martial

              Steer Mitchell n.Williams diallo

              Thanks!

              1. DeathoftheParty
                • 7 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                No TAA and 3 up top a bit risk... Not 100% sure if Perisic will start GW1 either.

              2. DeathoftheParty
                • 7 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Like the rest though

                1. Rhodes your boat
                  • 7 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Thanks for the feedback, would you lose perisic and martial??

                  1. DeathoftheParty
                    • 7 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    Martial to a £4.5m, Mitchell to TAA and Perisic to a £5m?

                    Think my math is good there... Not 100%

                  2. DeathoftheParty
                    • 7 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    £5m Dier maybe?

              3. Collie01
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                I quite like it, but the United double up is probably too much.

                1. Rhodes your boat
                  • 7 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Did think that too, would prefer to replace martial but not sure who with, 0itb

                  1. Collie01
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 6 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    Could do Martial downgrade and upgrade Perisic to TAA?

                    1. School of Poch
                      • 8 Years
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      This sounds like a good move, the Utd double up and uncertainty around Perisic feels risky

              4. TanN
                • 3 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Good effort that, but...I don't like the idea of 3-4-3 because there are some great value defenders (Arsenal defence @ 4.5 like Tomi and White) and some 'cheap' premiums like Chilwell/James @ 6.0 (you have James - nice) and Trent is a bargain @ 7.5 in my eyes.

                Lets start with defence...
                Sanchez - good keeper, I'd maybe prefer Raya/Meslier as a backup if you can afford it...
                Cancelo - must have, especially with some rumours of him playing on the wing...
                James - like it, I'd prefer Chilwell personally
                Perisic - winger classed as defender. essential.

                Into midfield...
                Salah - pretty much essential reallly
                Diaz - like him, maybe not alongside Salah though...try Saka/Mount/Mahrez/Maddison/Coutinho in there maybe
                Rashford - great value, could be explosive - keep an eye on him in preseason
                Bruno G - not keen personally, maybe Neto Bailey or even Martinelli is affordable for you

                Finallly the forwards...
                Haaland - I like this, can be switched easily with Kane if needed
                Jesus - I like this, think he will perform well and he is very nicely priced @8.0
                Martial - a 'maybe' option for me, i think rashford and martial is a little bit of overkill tbh. Try Mitrovic/Undav/Johnson/fodder instead and then upgrade Bruno G

                The bench...
                Steer - nice cheap option
                Mitchell - good option last year, cheap, effective
                Neco - cheap WB, hard to go wrong (put him as first sub?)
                Diallo - fodder

              5. RichieW
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Could do with Pool def
                Martial & Perisic > Robbo & Tripper/Cash

            9. School of Poch
              • 8 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              A:
              Mendy (4.0)
              TAA Cancelo Trippier Dalot (Neco)
              Salah Rashford Martinelli Neto (Andreas)
              Kane Haaland (4.5)

              B:
              Meslier (4.0)
              TAA James Cancelo Trippier Dalot
              Salah Kulu Rashford (Bailey) (Andreas)
              Haaland Jesus (Greenwood)

              A: Kane Martinelli Neto Neco Mendy
              B: Jesus Kulu Bailey James Meslier

              1. TanN
                • 3 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                I'd go B

                But I would want...
                1) another 8.0m mid >> Kulu
                2) Chilwell >> James

                1. School of Poch
                  • 8 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  What's the reasoning for B? I agree there are better 8.0 options but I worry having no Spurs cover then, and other than Kane and Son not confident on who is nailed. Chilwell over James would be easy enough, if it remains that James could play CB I see that as a good option

              2. TheBiffas
                • 3 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                A

                1. School of Poch
                  • 8 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Thoughts on why A is stronger?

            10. Tdog7
              • 6 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              RMT

              ramsdale raya
              zinchenko chillwell robertson malacia vestergaard
              kdb son diaz dewsbury hall elneny
              wilson martial jesus

            11. amit1964
              • 7 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              hii
              i would love to join a draft game if sombody opens one, thank you

            12. Steevo
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Too light in DEF? This draft is growing on me.

              Mendy
              TAA | Cancelo | Dalot | Neco
              Salah | Diaz | Mahrez | Rashford
              Kane | Jesus

              1. David Parkinson
                • 1 Year
                1 year, 9 months ago

                A bit. Trying to fit 3 8's in is tricky, especially with a 5 keeper.

              2. School of Poch
                • 8 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Be interesting to see the bench. Wouldn't want Neco starting every week probably but other than that it looks good

                1. Dthinger
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 7 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  I think I might try to play Neco every week.

              3. DeathoftheParty
                • 7 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Rash to Neto... Upgrade the D

            13. R.C
              • 6 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              LFC v RB Leipzig: Adrian; Alexander-Arnold, Konate, Van Dijk; Robertson; Fabinho, Thiago, Keita; Salah, Firmino, Diaz.

              1. @persecuted_by_mods
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Alisson in and that could very well be the starting line up for the Fulham game

                  Just need Nunez to look like a donkey one or two more times this pre season

                  1. Indpush
                    • 6 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    🙂

                • Bobby Digital
                  • 6 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Nice team

                • IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                  • 7 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  strong lineup for pool here

                • Hazz
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  0-1 Mo Salah!

                • The Mentaculus
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 2 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Mmm Konate, Konate....

                  1. DelPiero10
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      It's interesting that he's part of what looks like a full strength team.

                      1. The Mentaculus
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 2 Years
                        1 year, 9 months ago

                        Probably too soon to go for it but its tempting to put him on the menu at 5m

                        1. DelPiero10
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            Yeah, I agree. I haven't considered any defender at that price but it would be a spanner in the works if he became first choice. One to monitor.

                  2. Bobby Digital
                    • 6 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    I'd like to see this game, but it's not on any channels..

                    1. The Mentaculus
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 2 Years
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      Free here in Austria/Germany or with VPN:
                      http://www.servustv.com/

                  3. @persecuted_by_mods
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      Salah goal, bobby F assist

                      1. @persecuted_by_mods
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          Let's hope it's Firmino and not Nunez who starts the season

                        • The Mentaculus
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • Has Moderation Rights
                          • 2 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          Salah in der achten minuten

                        • svgcr
                          • 11 Years
                          1 year, 9 months ago

                          RIP NoMo drafts

                          1. The Mentaculus
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • Has Moderation Rights
                            • 2 Years
                            1 year, 9 months ago

                            The goal I'm not too bothered about but Bobby up front is not a good sign for No Mo. Been assuming Jota/Darwin