Moving Target
11 August 2016 2600 comments
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Having bolstered Man City’s attacking options with the acquisition of Nolito and Leroy Sane, new manager Pep Guardiola moved to strengthen his defence this week with the signing of Everton defender John Stones for a fee believed to be £47.5 million.

The 22-year-old England international put pen to paper on a six-year deal at the Etihad, and speaking to the club’s official website, revealed his happiness at joining City, and his desire to earn his place in Guardiola’s starting XI:

“I’ve obviously seen what’s going on here at the Etihad, it’s an ambitious club with a great manager so I can’t wait to get stuck in and help achieve the goals. I know it will be tough getting a place in this team but I’m determined to become the best player I can be and help us to success.”

The History

Stones came through Barnsley’s youth set-up, progressing all the way through to the first team. He made his professional debut in a 4-0 defeat to Reading in March 2012, and managed 28 appearances in all competitions for the Tykes, scoring one goal.

In January 2013, Everton paid Barnsley a fee reportedly in the region of £3 million to secure the young defender’s services, although he had to wait until August 2013 to make his debut for the Toffees, coming in a 2-1 against Stevenage in the League Cup.

Stones’ Premier League debut eventually came in a 1-1 draw against Stoke in January 2014, and he enjoyed a strong second half of the campaign, racking up a further 20 league appearances.

Whilst injury curtailed Stones’ progress during the first half of the 2014/15 season, he ended the campaign as a regular starter, and totaled 23 league appearances, scoring one goal.

Last season, the cultured centre-back was Phil Jagielka’s regular partner at the heart of the Everton defence, clocking up 33 appearances, although he failed to register any attacking returns. His individual performances did come under some criticism, though, with Everton’s disappointing campaign eventually leading to the departure of Roberto Martinez.

Stones represented England at Under 19, Under 20 and Under 21 levels, making 17 appearances in total, before earning a senior debut off the bench in a 3-0 win over Peru in May 2014. He was included in Roy Hodgson’s squad for Euro 2016, but was one of only two outfield players, along with Ross Barkley, not to feature in the tournament. He currently has 10 international caps but has yet to score for his country.

The Prospects

With Vincent Kompany expected to miss the opening weeks of the season due to a thigh injury, Stones will fancy his chances of going straight into the starting XI for Saturday’s season opener against Sunderland.

Guardiola started with Aleksandar Kolarov and Fernando in central defence in City’s final pre-season match against Arsenal, but it could be that Stones partners Nicolas Otamendi against the Black Cats. The England man has got plenty of minutes under his belt playing for the Toffees during pre-season, and should physically at least be ready for the big kick-off.

Furthermore, Eliaquim Mangala has not been included in City’s Champions League squad, which indicates the Frenchmen will likely be allowed to leave before the transfer window closes.

Guardiola favours using a four-man backline, so when Kompany does return to full fitness, it could leave Stones and Otamendi battling for one position. Given the investment made in the England international, he may be the one to keep his place providing he settles quickly in Manchester.

The major positive for Stones’ prospects is the fact Guardiola places so much emphasis on his defenders initiating attacks through their distribution, as he explained last month:

“Normally central defenders are strong in the air and aggressive. But we need to have a good build-up to create easy passes in the midfield so they can create good passes for the strikers. I believe when the ball goes from the central defender to the striker as quickly as possible, it comes as quickly as possible back.”

Crucially, amongst all defenders who played over 1000 minutes last season, Stones was ranked fourth for completed passes with 88%, illustrating his capability as a ball-playing defender.

Comparing the underlying statistics of Stones, Kompany and Otamendi from last season, it’s the Argentine who comes out on top. The former Valencia defender averaged a tackle every 21.4 minutes, far superior to both Kompany (45.9) and Stones (48.1). He held a similar advantage in terms of interceptions too, managing one every 27 minutes, better than both Stones (52.4) and Kompany (53.9).

The only significant area where Stones led the way amongst the trio came via blocks, averaging one every 83.9 minutes, far better than both Otamendi (215.9) and Kompany (310).

Otamendi could hold the edge for CBI, then, although the fact Kompany only managed 13 starts last season and was generally far from his best is perhaps not indicative of what we can expect if he can stay fit for a prolonged period of time.

The big factor in Stones’ favour from a Fantasy perspective is the fact he’s priced at 5.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), whereas both Kompany and Otamendi are valued at 6.0.

That disparity is likely to be one of the main reasons why Stones’ ownership has soared to 27% since the move was confirmed, and if City can equal or better the 16 clean sheets they accrued last season, the former Barnsley man could provide fantastic value providing he’s a regular starter.

As highlighted by this recent in-depth article on Guardiola’s tactics, the signs are promising:

“Guardiola has had the best defensive record in every league campaign of his career at Barcelona and Bayern Munich. Tellingly, the most goals he’s ever conceded came in the first of those seven seasons and the fewest came in his last one with Bayern”.

Stones does, however, lack any real goal threat, having only averaged an attempt every 366.9 minutes last term. That was far worse than Otamendi (104) and Kompany (112.7), both of whom have scored at decent number of goals throughout their careers.

City’s fixtures over the first six Gameweeks (SUN, sto, WHM, mun, BOU, swa) are fairly mixed though, so while Stones may offer tremendous value now playing for a side expected to compete for the title, it may take Guardiola time to get his methods across to his players – something that won’t be helped by Stones’ late arrival should he be thrust straight into the action.

Over the course of the season then, there’s every expectation that Stones could develop as a viable FPL asset under Guardiola’s guidance.

With a number of similarly priced options such as Robert Huth, Michael Keane, Ramiro Funes Mori, Alberto Moreno, Steve Cook, Patrick van Aanholt and Craig Dawson offering significantly greater goal threat, though, the City new boy may need to up his attacking output to offer exceptional value.

Further Reference

John Stones Wikipedia

John Stones Transfer Markt Page

John Stones You Tube

  1. DAV087
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Stones or Morgan/Huth for first few weeks?

    1. athreya
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Morgan

      1. DAV087
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        I'm leaning Morgan

    2. Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Stones

    3. fiveyears
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Morgan - Huth banned for GW1 and apart from SUN I don't see clean sheets early on for City.

      1. DAV087
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        I tend to agee

    4. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Has to be Morgan. Man City defence will need to settle and Stones has very little realistic chance of assists/goals/BAPs. Maybe later. (Huth out week 1)

      1. DAV087
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks for the Huth heads up

    5. meerlight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      stones. need to see how leicester's defebnce holds up kanteless

  2. munchod
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    hey guys, is anyone picking Mark Pugh? Is he nailed on? He has good stats.

  3. RVP20
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Bottomed on previous page. Please RMT

    Foster (Jaku)
    Valencia - Stones - Friend (Pieters - Amat)
    Hazard - Firmino - Tadic - Townsend (Capoue)
    Aguero - Ibrahimovic - Gray

    Any advice would be appreciated.

    1. Wardinator
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I like it! 9/10
      If you could find 0.5 to upgrade Townsend to Lamela it would be spot on

      1. RVP20
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks

      2. Sjaugen
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Got to DG Stones then

  4. foreverton
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Avoid Saints def early on? I have VVD

    1. Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I'd avoid

      1. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        why? Good defence.

    2. meerlight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      saints have a good defence. nowt wrong with having vvd

  5. Tmel
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Foster Jaku
    Valencia Stones Williams Friend X
    Hazard Redmond Duelofeu X X
    Kun Vardy Gray

    a) Kone Firmino Townsend
    b) Amat Sanchez Capoue

  6. sk018
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Best 4m Def?

    1. athreya
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Amat

      1. Gooner97
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Is he nailed?

        1. athreya
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Initially I think so.

    2. Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      No one

    3. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Amat most likely to start

    4. meerlight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      no

    5. Thomas Magnum
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Lenihan

  7. Punter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    I had gone off the idea of Kunibra but still a bit tempted, how does this look?

    Foster
    Valencia - Stones - VVD
    Hazard - Firmino - Tadic - Zaha
    Aguero - Ibra - Gray

    Jaku - Friend - Leko - Lenihan

    Otherwise it's Ibra > Vardy, Zaha > Townsend/Deulofeu

    1. athreya
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Zaha and Leko clear negatives. Will Leko even play regularly? In case you want to rotate.

      1. Punter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Don't think I'd need to play him but yeah I hear you.. Just toying with the Ibra idea, probably won't do it!

    2. Whazza
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Great apart playing Zaha every week...

      1. Punter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        I think a 4-3-3 is viable with Friend, though.

  8. Haydenmoncrieff
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Best 4.5 and 5.5 mids?

    1. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Capoue & Fischer/Gaston ...or find the 0.5 for Redmond

    2. Jersey
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      4.5 Capoue, Fletcher

      5.5 Ramirez, Phillips, Gradel, Ibe, Puncheon, Snodgrass

  9. Puyol Pants Up
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Bottomed

    Quick RMT?

    Heaton, Jaku
    Shaw, Coleman, Stones, Evans, Amat
    Hazard, Firmino, Tadic, Ramirez
    Aguero, Ibra, Gray

    Cheers 🙂

    1. Sjaugen
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      As good as any

      1. Puyol Pants Up
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        I'll take that as a compliment, thanks 😛

  10. Jersey
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts?

    Foster Jakupovic
    Valencia VVD Friend (Kone Amat)
    Hazard Eriksen Tadic Townsend (Capoue)
    Kun Vardy Gray 1.0 itb

    Thanks in advance.

    1. athreya
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Template. Good. But needs plan to work in United/Arsenal attackers into the team after 2/3 weeks.

  11. amit1964
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    why gray and not carroll? carroll play in much better team and much better offensive mid

    1. Jersey
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      1.) Time on the field. Gray will play 90 minutes, every game.

      2.) Injury history.

    2. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I agree

    3. meerlight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      starting the season against chelsea is not a huge attracter

    4. Viiksisika
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Gray got a record breaking pre-season under his belt. I'm on Carroll still tho.

  12. Hops91
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    walcott ready to show something? last time ill put some faith in i think...... time to stand up!

    1. athreya
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Sigh. Are you Wenger in disguise?

      1. Hops91
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        would do a better job i reckon 🙂 has to show something now. last chance!!

        1. athreya
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Ha ha. Good luck

    2. meerlight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      just don't come crying to us if it goes horribly wrong 😉

  13. lukespurs8
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Which two 4.5m defenders do you think offer the best rotation?

    1. meerlight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      for how long?

      1. lukespurs8
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        First 6 weeks sir

  14. Harry's Car Window
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    A few more tweaks made, think I'm getting there. Thoughts?

    Heaton (Foster)
    Stones, Friend, Pieters (Evans, Kone)
    Hazard, Eriksen, Fabregas, Deulofeu (Capoue)
    Aguero, Ibrahimovic, Negredo

    1. qreen qoblin
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      too much chelsea

  15. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Foster/ Jakupovic
    Valencia/ Stones/ Evans/ Friend/ Lafferty
    Hazard/ Mahrez/ Firmino/ Redmond/ Capoue
    Aguero/ Costa/ Gray

    😎 0.5m ITB

    1. Puyol Pants Up
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Good luck with Redmond and Costa!

      Lafferty nailed after GW 1?

    2. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Cant you use the 0.5 to upgrade Lafferty!?

      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Toying around with the idea

        Lafferty should start GW1 which is probably the only time I'll play him. That 0.5m makes it nice to upgrade if a bandwagon appears early on

        1. Mavric Marco
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          I would use all your money Bow

    3. Jazz!
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Firmino to Mané

    4. Whazza
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Costa to Vardy, Mahrez to Martial

  16. fantasyfanatic2016
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Erikson or Firminio?
    Tadic or Redmond or Lamela?

    1. athreya
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Firmino, Lamela .

    2. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Eriksen (prefer Alli)
      Tadic

  17. TheSteel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Foster
    Stones Valencia Friend
    Eriks Firminio Barkely Tadic
    Kun Zlatan Gray

    Jako Naylor Mee Capoue

    Thoughts?

    1. fiveyears
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I like it, Barkley someone you don't see too much but could work out under Koeman.

  18. Alisson WondHaaland
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Best value for money out of these?
    A)Ibra
    B)Kane
    C)Vardy
    D)Costa
    E)Rooney

    1. Hops91
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      rooney- Big Season!

    2. MFPL
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      B and D

    3. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Rooney

  19. La Vida Latte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Who would you play:

    1. Walker (eve)
    2. Friend (STO)

    1. fiveyears
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      2

  20. Gooner97
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    La Liga club Espanyol have unveiled Martin Demichelis following his free transfer from Manchester City.

  21. MFPL
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    RMT please?

    Foster (Jakupovic)
    Valencia Stones Friend (Evans Smith)
    Hazard Firmino Alli Redmond (Capoue)
    Aguero Kane Gray

    1. fiveyears
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Not sure about doubling up on Spurs early on with no Leicester if I'm honest. Vardy for Kane initially could work with money in the bank to switch it later.

  22. fiveyears
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Much glaringly wrong with this? Think its not far off generally speaking.

    Heaton - Foster
    Valencia - Morgan - Williams - Friend - Targett
    Mahrez - Eriksen - Tadic - Ibe - Capoue
    Ibra - Kun - Gray

    Int break wildcard likely after GW3 so Targett is a GW1 punt. Thanks all 🙂

    1. FootballGeorge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Nothing majorly wrong

  23. Teddy Brewski
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    I really hate not owning Kane. Vardy and Spurs mid just balances the team so much better

    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Cant have em all

  24. thepeen555
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    so Borja signed for swansea then, hmmm ponders the potential 3rd striker change

  25. FootballGeorge
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Is Benteke -> Palace confirmed ? If so would anyone be interested ?

    1. Hops91
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      100% fixtures are great!

    2. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      He isn't match fit though, so won't start.

  26. Hops91
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Think I'm done. Some feedback would be greatly appreciated.

    Heaton

    Stones, Azpilicueta, Valencia

    Oscar, Alli, Ramsay, Silva, Pogba

    Benteke (crystal Palace) Aguero

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      You have no subs.
      Oscar and Ramsey are not nailed.
      Benteke yet to move.

    2. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Lol thank you for clarifying which Benteke. Not keen on that midfield

    3. Baz
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      too many question marks around gametime in that midfield for me

  27. mdm
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Which option looks better:

    A. Stones, Shaw, Terry, Lamela, Tadic
    B. Evans, Kone, Friend, Redmond, Sanchez

    Thanks

    1. Baz
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      B because of sanchez

  28. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Is there a bit of substance to these Kone to Everton rumours? Anything said from the managers? Hoping he stays at Sunderland.

  29. Baz
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    A) Coleman Townsend + 1mill (Vardy to Kane gw2)

    B) Kone Firminho