Moving Target
11 August 2016 2600 comments
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Having bolstered Man City’s attacking options with the acquisition of Nolito and Leroy Sane, new manager Pep Guardiola moved to strengthen his defence this week with the signing of Everton defender John Stones for a fee believed to be £47.5 million.

The 22-year-old England international put pen to paper on a six-year deal at the Etihad, and speaking to the club’s official website, revealed his happiness at joining City, and his desire to earn his place in Guardiola’s starting XI:

“I’ve obviously seen what’s going on here at the Etihad, it’s an ambitious club with a great manager so I can’t wait to get stuck in and help achieve the goals. I know it will be tough getting a place in this team but I’m determined to become the best player I can be and help us to success.”

The History

Stones came through Barnsley’s youth set-up, progressing all the way through to the first team. He made his professional debut in a 4-0 defeat to Reading in March 2012, and managed 28 appearances in all competitions for the Tykes, scoring one goal.

In January 2013, Everton paid Barnsley a fee reportedly in the region of £3 million to secure the young defender’s services, although he had to wait until August 2013 to make his debut for the Toffees, coming in a 2-1 against Stevenage in the League Cup.

Stones’ Premier League debut eventually came in a 1-1 draw against Stoke in January 2014, and he enjoyed a strong second half of the campaign, racking up a further 20 league appearances.

Whilst injury curtailed Stones’ progress during the first half of the 2014/15 season, he ended the campaign as a regular starter, and totaled 23 league appearances, scoring one goal.

Last season, the cultured centre-back was Phil Jagielka’s regular partner at the heart of the Everton defence, clocking up 33 appearances, although he failed to register any attacking returns. His individual performances did come under some criticism, though, with Everton’s disappointing campaign eventually leading to the departure of Roberto Martinez.

Stones represented England at Under 19, Under 20 and Under 21 levels, making 17 appearances in total, before earning a senior debut off the bench in a 3-0 win over Peru in May 2014. He was included in Roy Hodgson’s squad for Euro 2016, but was one of only two outfield players, along with Ross Barkley, not to feature in the tournament. He currently has 10 international caps but has yet to score for his country.

The Prospects

With Vincent Kompany expected to miss the opening weeks of the season due to a thigh injury, Stones will fancy his chances of going straight into the starting XI for Saturday’s season opener against Sunderland.

Guardiola started with Aleksandar Kolarov and Fernando in central defence in City’s final pre-season match against Arsenal, but it could be that Stones partners Nicolas Otamendi against the Black Cats. The England man has got plenty of minutes under his belt playing for the Toffees during pre-season, and should physically at least be ready for the big kick-off.

Furthermore, Eliaquim Mangala has not been included in City’s Champions League squad, which indicates the Frenchmen will likely be allowed to leave before the transfer window closes.

Guardiola favours using a four-man backline, so when Kompany does return to full fitness, it could leave Stones and Otamendi battling for one position. Given the investment made in the England international, he may be the one to keep his place providing he settles quickly in Manchester.

The major positive for Stones’ prospects is the fact Guardiola places so much emphasis on his defenders initiating attacks through their distribution, as he explained last month:

“Normally central defenders are strong in the air and aggressive. But we need to have a good build-up to create easy passes in the midfield so they can create good passes for the strikers. I believe when the ball goes from the central defender to the striker as quickly as possible, it comes as quickly as possible back.”

Crucially, amongst all defenders who played over 1000 minutes last season, Stones was ranked fourth for completed passes with 88%, illustrating his capability as a ball-playing defender.

Comparing the underlying statistics of Stones, Kompany and Otamendi from last season, it’s the Argentine who comes out on top. The former Valencia defender averaged a tackle every 21.4 minutes, far superior to both Kompany (45.9) and Stones (48.1). He held a similar advantage in terms of interceptions too, managing one every 27 minutes, better than both Stones (52.4) and Kompany (53.9).

The only significant area where Stones led the way amongst the trio came via blocks, averaging one every 83.9 minutes, far better than both Otamendi (215.9) and Kompany (310).

Otamendi could hold the edge for CBI, then, although the fact Kompany only managed 13 starts last season and was generally far from his best is perhaps not indicative of what we can expect if he can stay fit for a prolonged period of time.

The big factor in Stones’ favour from a Fantasy perspective is the fact he’s priced at 5.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), whereas both Kompany and Otamendi are valued at 6.0.

That disparity is likely to be one of the main reasons why Stones’ ownership has soared to 27% since the move was confirmed, and if City can equal or better the 16 clean sheets they accrued last season, the former Barnsley man could provide fantastic value providing he’s a regular starter.

As highlighted by this recent in-depth article on Guardiola’s tactics, the signs are promising:

“Guardiola has had the best defensive record in every league campaign of his career at Barcelona and Bayern Munich. Tellingly, the most goals he’s ever conceded came in the first of those seven seasons and the fewest came in his last one with Bayern”.

Stones does, however, lack any real goal threat, having only averaged an attempt every 366.9 minutes last term. That was far worse than Otamendi (104) and Kompany (112.7), both of whom have scored at decent number of goals throughout their careers.

City’s fixtures over the first six Gameweeks (SUN, sto, WHM, mun, BOU, swa) are fairly mixed though, so while Stones may offer tremendous value now playing for a side expected to compete for the title, it may take Guardiola time to get his methods across to his players – something that won’t be helped by Stones’ late arrival should he be thrust straight into the action.

Over the course of the season then, there’s every expectation that Stones could develop as a viable FPL asset under Guardiola’s guidance.

With a number of similarly priced options such as Robert Huth, Michael Keane, Ramiro Funes Mori, Alberto Moreno, Steve Cook, Patrick van Aanholt and Craig Dawson offering significantly greater goal threat, though, the City new boy may need to up his attacking output to offer exceptional value.

Further Reference

John Stones Wikipedia

John Stones Transfer Markt Page

John Stones You Tube

  1. munchod
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Jedinak nailed?

  2. There Can Be Only One
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    On a tinker frenzy, Firmino is my 5th midfielder in all options

    A) KDB, Redmond, Deulofeu, Ibe

    B) Hazard, Tadic, Deulofeu, Capoue

    C) KDB, Deulofeu, Lamela, Capoue

    D) Redmond, Mahrez, Eriksen, Capoue

    1. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      B

    2. Wardinator
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      B

    3. Shearer & Sutton
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      B

  3. AYEW KI-EDEN MEE
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Just seen that apparently Sunderland have bought Paddy McNair to play midfield. He's priced 4.5 and a defender. Could be one to keep an eye on

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      defensive midfielder - not the sort to get goals or assists.

  4. tm370
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    A or B guys

    A) Foster, Jakupovic
    Targett, Shaw, Stones, Williams, Amat
    Tadic, Hazard, Eriksen, Townsend, Sanchez
    Aguero, Gray, Diomande
    (0.5 in the bank)

    Or

    B) Foster, Jakupovic
    Targett, Shaw, Stones, Williams, Amat
    Tadic, Hazard, Firminio, Townsend, Capoue
    Aguero, Gray, Vardy
    (1 in the bank – Vardy to Kane GW 2). Targett to Kone planned when his situation is clearer and Bertrand is back.

    1. Pino
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      B for me becouse of Firmino and Vardy.

      1. tm370
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers

  5. Manky Yanc
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Can you not move the teams around on the Fixture Ticker anymore?

    That was my favourite feature of it!!

    1. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      No, but lots of other functionality now.

    2. The Kolarov Mane ⚔
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Season ticker in the Members area? click on a team then use the arrows... it moves but it aint pretty.

      1. Manky Yanc
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Got it...cheers!!

  6. mdm
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    A. Terry, Tadic and Gray
    B. Kone, Redmond and Rooney

    1. Wardinator
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      A

  7. Mavric Marco
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Subway for lunch! 😎

  8. choop32
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    John Terry, pick up or avoid???

    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Avoid

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Should be safe until zouma's back; 2-3 GWs at least.

  9. NissA
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Thought I had my team sorted, but Tinkermania is running wild, and I'm contemplating dropping Hazard for someone who'd be on set pieces.

    Which sounds better? They're similar in structure, one cheap mid acting as OOP, one fella on set pieces, and a world class player on each option:

    A) Hazard / Tadić / Deulofeu + 0.5
    B) Óscar / Redmond / Alexis Sánchez

    1. fiveyears
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      a

  10. Lightbody
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    What are people's thoughts on saving at least £1m in the bank before the season starts? I've always been a 'value player':
    -looking for the cheapest route into the big teams' defence
    -finding out-of-position players
    -hitching onto a bandwagon (but only if I really want the player anyway) early in order to increase my overall team value
    -cashing in on those out of form when I can 'bank' a good amount of profit on them

    This time I've picked a decent team for £98m, with £2m ITB to upgrade swiftly if a standout option becomes available in the first two weeks, without having to take points hits... would be interested to hear your thoughts on a) my strategy, and b) my team.

    GW1 GW2
    Courtois Courtois
    Shaw-Stones-Targett-Evans Stones-Shaw-Evans-Amat
    Firminho-Hazard-Mkhitaryan Firminho-Hazard-Mkhitaryan-Deulofeu
    Aguero-Gray-Carroll Aguero-Carroll
    (Jak; Deulofeu; Amat; Capoue) (Jak; Gray; Targett; Capoue)

    NB It's a shame Swansea are burning in front of our eyes before a ball's been kicked in anger, their opening fixtures had so much potential but I just can't trust Sigurdsson to start/perform in a team without the leaders of last season. Still, I believe it's offered up the only starting 4.0 defender... I might be wrong but willing to gamble, especially with 2.0 ITB

    1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I think something's gone a bit wrong with your team there.....

      On the main point though, I'm loking at going in with 1.5 iTB, which is just enough to upgrade Lamela to an 8.5, Redmond to a 7.5, or Vardy to Ibra.

  11. Junior ⚽
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Kone or Williams?
    Is the former nailed Gw 2 on wards?

  12. Gooner97
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Amat or Wilson?

    1. chrisr
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Amat. Will play now Williams has moved on.

      1. Gooner97
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Ta

  13. JÆKS ⭐
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Not going with Sanchez after all, please stay quiet until the Burnley game please!

  14. H________M
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    .......

  15. Cech yer Konetract
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    What do people think about Nolito as a punt?

    1. NissA
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      That's an expensive punt in a team with an ocean of midfielders.

    2. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      If he were nailed to begin with he could be worth it. Not sure if he will start from gw1 though even though it's likely but it's a wait and see for me.

    3. AYEW KI-EDEN MEE
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Go for it. I think he'll start and it's at home against Sunderland so what's to lose

      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        This

  16. Sheeeit
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Comparing Aguero & Ibra as captain choices.

    Just quickly had a look at amount of times Zlatan has scored 2 goals or more in his time at PSG. I counted the numbers myself so they may be inaccurate, but they wouldn't be far off.
    .
    Ibra 3 seasons at PSG
    2 Goals: 20
    3 Goals: 6
    4 Goals: 2

    Aguero 4 seasons at Man City
    2 Goals: 17
    3 Goals: 5
    4 Goals: 1
    5 Goals: 1

    Now this data isn't really comparable tbf. Ligue 1 is an easier + Aguero's tendency to be injured. I think it does show though that as possible rotation

    1. Sheeeit
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Accidental post.

      I was finishing that as rotation captain choices they are pretty much perfect.

  17. bennydebull
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Brad Smith a possible 4.0 option? Joined Bournemouth from Liverpool for 6m. Any Liverpool/Bournemouth fans have an opinion?

    I know about Amat.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      He's one of 3 challenging for that position, so very far from nailed, imo.

      1. bennydebull
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        ok ty

    2. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Possible option. But not yet. He will be a good option if he nails the spot which is wide open at the moment.

  18. Gooner97
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Slaven Bilic says West Ham want to sign one more player after Jonathan Calleri completes his move to the London Stadium.

  19. harvard
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    NB: Dont pick two 7.5 mids. one of your mf picks must be an enabler

    1. RealSocialDads
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      An enabler?

  20. Nellirk
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Tempting 3-5-2.... Agree?

    Eriksen-Firmino-Walcott-Tadic-Townsend
    Kun-Vardy (Carrol)

    Play Carrol in gw 2, 4 (and 5 if in form).

  21. mental
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    mahrez&carroll or redmond&vardy?

  22. mranonymous
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    A) Mahrez + Costa

    B) Hazard + Lukaku

    1. bennydebull
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      b

  23. Alisson WondHaaland
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone else with ibra changing to Rooney?

    1. bennydebull
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      He's got to play well first

  24. H________M
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    My Team,

    Valdes

    Valencia Stones Fry

    Sanchez Miki Feghouli Mahrez Alli

    Aguero Benteke

    Good or Bad???

    1. Cech yer Konetract
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Don't like the Benteke pick and would worry about no Chelsea coverage

  25. Wardinator
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Changing Hazard to Oscar makes my team so much stronger

    Do we think this is a viable option? Will Oscar get at least 75% of the points Haz will get? I think he will.

    Thoughts?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I think it's a good punt at the start of the season while we see which Hazard turns up this campaign.

  26. Gooner97
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Moussa Sissoko has tried to Newcastle United fans why he wants to leave the club.

    "They need to understand, I spent three and a half years here,” he told the BBC. ”I gave everything for this club and I want to play some big games.

    “For that I need to go somewhere else. I want to play in the Premier League, I want to play for a big club who can get into the Champions League. That's why I said I want to leave this year.

    "I've spent a lot of time here and now it's time to look forward. The fans need to understand my situation, I hope they will and that everything will be OK."

  27. JamesFG
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Foster Heaton
    Shaw Terry Stones Friend Amat
    Hazard Firmino Tadic Deulofeu Fletcher
    Aguero Vardy Gray

    Any help appreciated lads. Really not sure about Tadic/Deulofeu and could do with some assurance with Firmino too

  28. Gooner97
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Evans or Friend?

  29. qreen qoblin
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Please rate my team guys:

    Foster/Jaku
    Stones/Shaw/Targett/Friend/Amat
    Hazard/Sanchez/Tadic/Ramirez/Capoue
    Aguero/Vardy/Gray

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Targett is a brave ount but could come off. Having said that I'd worry that by c GW4 Targett, Amat and even Stones may not be starters.

      1. qreen qoblin
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Will make a lot of changes until GW4

  30. Alisson WondHaaland
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Afternoon lads,
    Almost finished tinkering any major improvements or flaws?
    Foster Jaku
    Stones Williams Walker Amat Friend
    Firmino Tadic Lamela Mahrez Capoue
    Aguero Costa Gray

    1. Teror
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Interesting choices. Mix of template and a few gambles. Looks all good to me.

      1. Alisson WondHaaland
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Who seem like the gambles?

        1. Teror
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Costa mainly. Mahrez looking not so hot in pre-season.