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21 November 2016 725 comments
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Last Gameweek’s poll favourite Sergio Aguero (13.2) disappointed with a blank away at Crystal Palace.

A failure to register even a single shot on target at Selhurst Park, coupled with a potentially tough away trip to Burnley, is likely to dent the 46.5%-owned Man City striker’s prospects.

The Clarets have conceded a mere six goals in seven home matches this season.

Instead, Liverpool’s midfield maestros of Robert Firmino (8.8), Philippe Coutinho (8.7) and Sadio Mane (9.1) may push for the summit. Each has a strong case for the armband, although with 38 FPL points across his last four home league encounters, the 45.8%-owned Coutinho looks the pick of the trio.

With 35 points and 30 points respectively over the same matches, Mane and “false nine” Firmino are also very much in contention.

Arsenal also have a number captaincy contenders when they host Bournemouth.

The Gunners’ key options – 22.1% owned Alexis Sanchez (11.3) and Theo Walcott (7.8) – will have to improve on their lacklustre display against Manchester United in Gameweek 12 if they are to take advantage. At Old Trafford, neither managed a shot on target, with 12.3% owned Walcott failing to register a single goal attempt.

Mesut Ozil (9.6) and 1.6% owned super sub Olivier Giroud (8.8) offer alternatives. The former has served up 28 points in his last four home outings, while the latter has scored three goals from the bench in as many matches.

At Stamford Bridge, Chelsea’s resilient defence, which is looking for its seventh league clean sheet in a row, will be put to the test when Spurs pay visit.

With goals in each of his last four league matches, the 6.4%-owned Harry Kane (10.8) will prove a stern test and may win support in the poll, particular after his brace against West Ham on Saturday evening.

Tottenham’s defence has been far more obliging of late, with just one clean sheet in their last four league fixtures. They will also be without the suspended Danny Rose, with doubts remaining on the availability of Toby Alderweireld.

This presents one of Eden Hazard (10.1) or Diego Costa (10.5) with the opportunity to even top the poll this week.

The 31.3%-owned Belgian has delivered attacking returns in every home match since manager Antonio Conte switched to a 3-4-3 formation in Gameweek 7. The consistency of the 41.7%-owned Costa is also enticing, with a goal in three of his last four Gameweeks at the Bridge.

Another reliable selection that may gain votes is Swansea City’s 3.4%-owned Gylfi Sigurdsson (7.2). He has provided returns in four of the last five Gameweeks and hosts a Crystal Palace side still in search of their first clean sheet of the campaign.

Fantasy Football’s forgotten man Zlatan Ibrahimovic (11.1) offers another strong candidate.

Sold by more than 1.6m FPL managers this season, the Man United striker has dropped off the radar as a captaincy option. But with a brace in Gameweek 11 away to Swansea, this weekend’s home clash with West Ham offers a chance for further redemption as he looks to reward the 25.4% of patient FPL managers that have stuck by him.

We will be back to check in on progress in the poll later this week when we deliver our “Captain Sensible” article offering an analysis of the results and the statistics behind the leading contenders.

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  1. boc610
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    member the days when you could just captain Suarez and not have to worry?

    yeah i member! I member!

    1. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Where has all this member stuff come from? Saw my mates mentioning it the other day but I have no idea!

      1. AaronZ_14
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        South Park

      2. boc610
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        south park , people getting nostalgic after eating 'member berries.'

    2. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Also....remember the days when you could just captain Aguero and not have to worry? 😉

      1. Irish Madridista ⭐
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Like it was yesterday...

    3. Pompel
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Yeah, the good old days - they were a bit boring, weren't they?

      1. boc610
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        it was fun slagging the Sturridge captainers

    4. Christina.
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      stop playing with yourself

      1. Irish Madridista ⭐
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Hypocrite..

        *zips up*

    5. Blue Gaffer
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Member Chewbacca?

    6. Gotta Wijnaldum points
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      I member

  2. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    On Giroud...

    "Sometimes a player won’t play in October and then afterwards he’ll play every game until January. That’s part of it.”

    'I consider him to be a regular player. He had a long holiday [after the Euros], after that he was injured and now he’s just coming back for a few games. It’s true that in the past two games he has been a bit frustrated but that’s normal because he’s ready to go again. The solution of Alexis up front has worked well and I have two options at the moment. Olivier Giroud is in both options because Alexis can play on the flank. Olivier can only play through the middle, so I can sometimes marry the two together.'

    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20161119/wenger-on-giroud-and-late-goals

    Correct me if Im wrong but I swear Arsene is telling us he's going to start Giroud from now on?

    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Forget Wenger.. What did LR say?

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      On my watchlist

    3. makaveli123
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Lukaku -> Giroud?

      1. Bubz
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Iv done it

        1. makaveli123
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 18 days ago

          Very tempting. Don't know what move I should prioritize though. Want to get rid of Sanchez as well.

  3. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Siggy has gone relatively un-noticed. Is now the time?

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Yes

    2. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      We've all noticed.. Problem is there are more pressing issues for most.

      GW15 is Siggy time, nothing wrong with getting ahead of the curve though.

      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Bound to score against his old club! 🙂

      2. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Allen to Siggy will be a big one this week I suggest. Yeah I'm settled on Haz Firm Cout then gonna take Sig as a differential and ignore Arsenal - fingers crossed

    3. Ted Bovis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Got my eye on another 'under the radar' midfielder in a couple of weeks. Not seen him mentioned much on here but great stats.

      1. Mini Mane Mo
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        U mean Payet?

        1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 18 days ago

          He'll be sold in Jan so best buy him soon

        2. Ted Bovis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 18 days ago

          No.....much cheaper ;0)

          1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 18 days ago

            I was researching Traore Boro in the mid-term

      2. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Love a bit of secret research and monitoring

  4. vickyz r3d d3vil$ !!!
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    I cant even see Mane's face in the above pic..no offense ..maybe it could be because he's the stand out captaincy pick for the week..:)

    1. Sess!
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Just seen that earlier. Quality, ha ha.

  5. Sjaugen
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Pep made any comments on Gundogan? Unsure if I can afford to risk him as my forth. Just a tiny bit shy on cash for Chadli. Maybe it's Snodgrass time?

    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      I'd go Snoddy

      1. Moose™
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Sanchez or Hazard?

        1. Irish Madridista ⭐
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 18 days ago

          I don't really want either at the moment.

          Hazard probably..

          1. Moose™
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 18 days ago

            Rose Keane Sanchez --> McAuley Austin Hazard for -4 hits. Would you do it tho?

            1. Irish Madridista ⭐
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 18 days ago

              No idea sorry 😐 I'm not exactly great at this game right now.

        2. Sjaugen
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 18 days ago

          I've Hazard and Ozil and 6.2 if I choose to replace Gundogan.
          Williams also on his way out, but I'd love a FT for that

    2. Sess!
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      If hull score you'd have to think Snodgrass would be involved. Looked by far their most dangerous player. They've only score 8 goals all season or something silly, so I'd be staying clear of them personally.

  6. Totti
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    my front 8 are
    Sanchez coutinho firmino allen gundogan
    aguero lukaku austin
    2 FT and 1.4 in the bank
    A) allen and gundogan out de roon and walcott in
    B) austin and gundogan out anchibe and walcott in
    C) Other suggestion

    1. woody3260
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      allen and gundogan to capoue and siggy?

      1. Totti
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        and who to bench then?

  7. Karan_G14
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    This decision is really hard to make. Please help?

    A) Costa & Snoddy 3-4-3

    B) Kdb & Anichebe 3-5-2

    Rest of the team:

    Hazard - Coutinho - Firmino - Siggy - ____
    Kane - Austin - ____

    No Arsenal because I can't have everything will probably look for an Arsenal player from Boxing Day if possible.

    Appreciate your thoughts!

    1. Sess!
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      b

    2. The Chump
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      B since you have Hazard and no Kun

  8. Individual
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Small critique of mobile site (unless I'm being dumb) but can't find the captaincy poll on here.

    On the subject... Firmino vs Coutinho? Might go Bobby as he's my key differential, know most will go Coutinho. Unsure if going with crowd or not is the best.

  9. TheBusDriver
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Sell Hazard or Sanchez for Coutinho?

    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Yes 🙂

      1. TheBusDriver
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Hazard or Sanchez? 😯

    2. Grand Thibauto
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Don't

    3. IWR
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Both

    4. Reiko
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Neither

  10. jia you
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    If Gundogan was your 5th mid, would you keep him for a while or downgrade him asap?
    And if downgrading him, who's the ideal candidate at the moment in your opinion?

    1. jia you
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Thinking a slight downgrade to Matic (could come in handy as 5th mid over the Xmas period?) myself which would free up enough funds to do Lukaku to Kane in a week or two?

  11. dicky2014
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Will Holebas get his place back?

    1. Grand Thibauto
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      When did he lose it

      1. Sess!
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        This

      2. dicky2014
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Well they won without him, will they change a winning team?

        1. Grand Thibauto
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 18 days ago

          Spurs won without Kane, why did they include him again

          1. Irish Madridista ⭐
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 18 days ago

            Good question..

          2. dicky2014
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 18 days ago

            Cant really compare him to Kane now can we?

    2. ONE PUNCH MAN
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      for sure, he was suspended this GW.

    3. IWR
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Absolutely

  12. ROOTY7
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Bench 2?
    1) Francis (ARS A)
    2) Brunt (HUL A)
    3) Amat (CRY H)
    4) Holebas ( STK H)
    5) Walker (CHE A)

    1. Sess!
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      1&3

    2. IWR
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Yeah, 1 and 3.

    3. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      1 anyway.

      After that it's difficult.. :/

    4. MisterMaster
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      1 and 5

  13. Blue Gaffer
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Tempted by the following:

    Allen, Sterling, Aguero----Giroud, Firmino, Coutinho -4

    Yes or No?

    1. TheBusDriver
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      No brainer.

    2. Sess!
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Not this week. City have burnley.

      1. Blue Gaffer
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Burnley pretty watertight at home though then they have Chelsea...

    3. Moose™
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Not sure about Giroud minutes tho.

    4. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Yes

    5. Kermit Special
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      what u waiting for m8?, do it

    6. IWR
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Do it.

  14. Russell
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Anyone here think that Costa could take the Spot kicks duty off Hazard? His confidence must be sky high and he’ll be gunning for the golden boot.

    Hazard doesn't exactly have the best pens record and so wouldn't be a shock.

    1. Grand Thibauto
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Wouldn't be a shocker. But Hazard is likely going to take it as he has been on form as well.

  15. Moose™
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Triple Pulis for this GW. Who's with me?

    1. Russell
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Double

    2. IWR
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Very risky. Concede and you're cooked, too many eggs in the basket for mine.

      1. Moose™
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Amat and Pieters my other option. Ditch McAuley or Evans tho?

        1. IWR
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 18 days ago

          I'd play McAuley and Pieters, benching Evans. Gotta spread the risk/opportunities for points

    3. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 17 days ago

      The week probably turned out a good one with triple Brom with all the low scores, but that's very very risky long term, with or without fixtures. Nerve-wracking especially with a team that concedes goals after 80 minutes.

  16. IWR
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Heaton (Pickford)
    McAuley, Pieters, Holebas (Smith, Amat)
    Haz, Ozil, Mane, Firm (Allen)
    Kun, Lukaku, Austin

    1FT, 0.1, thoughts?

    A) Allen-De Roon
    B) Lukaku-Giroud
    C) Ozil-Siggy and Lukaku-Kane (-4)
    D) Save

    1. Moose™
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Save.

    2. Hasselbaink Forever
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      D

  17. YoungPretender
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Anyone transferring Lukaku out? If so, who for?

    1. IWR
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      See above, Giroud and Kane are very much in consideration. Giroud with the better fixtures

    2. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Me. Giroud.

      1. IWR
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        I'll ride with you

    3. Hasselbaink Forever
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      I'm looking at Lukaku > Kane next GW

    4. jia you
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Yeah, probably to Kane in a week or two.

    5. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Giroud or mayB Kun if I want to take a hit.

  18. white lightning
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    So I'm looking to use my ft to get rid of Fuchs (a poor decision to buy him in the first place) this week:
    (a) Lovren or
    (b) Cedric or
    (c) Brunt/McAuley or
    (d) Keep Fuchs & save ft or
    (e) Other options I haven't considered.

    I like Lovren tbh with the nice run of fixtures especially Sunderland at home this week but I realise Liverpool defensively are very average.

    Foster (Jaku)
    Alonso, Fuchs, Holebas (Pieters, Amat)
    Hazard, Coutinho (c), Firmino, Capoue (Allen)
    Aguero (vc), Costa, Lukaku

    Thanks.

    1. IWR
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Is Lukaku more of a problem child? Giroud gives you Arsenal cover for their fixtures.

      1. white lightning
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Yes been reading previous comments & the Giroud train is gaining momentum. Thanks mate.

  19. Boomerang V
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    My team looks like this:

    Pickford / Grant
    McAuley / Pieters / Prodl / Kingsley / Torkowski
    Hazard / KDB / Walcott / Firmino / Snodgrass
    Aguero / Kane / Defoe

    So I am planning to do Aguero > Costa in order to improve my defense which is really weak right now.

    I have 0 itb

    Any thoughts?

    1. woody3260
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      looks good you have KDB as cover so you can improve that defence with costa downgrade

  20. Shirokov(c)
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Got positive feedback the last time I posted this, just looking for a few more opinions. Think I might go insane this week and do:

    Aguero / Allen / Benteke > Kane / Siggy / Defoe (-8)

    Will leave me with this front 8:

    Sanchez - Walcott - Mane - Siggy - Capoue
    Kane - Costa - Defoe

    In this scenario, I could downgrade Sanchez to get Hazard or upgrade Walcott to Coutinho the week after, if I liked.

    If there ever was a year to take hits, this is it 😉

    1. IWR
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      I think I'd rather Giroud, just not sure about Defoe from here despite his form.

      Not sure there's enough upside in the above transfers to get the nod for a -8.

      I wouldn't do it personally.

      1. Shirokov(c)
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Giroud over Defoe? He's 1.4m more, can't see him justifying that price tag. And that 1.4m might prevent me from getting in a second Liverpool mid.

        1. IWR
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 18 days ago

          I still think Austin is the pick of the budget forwards, I'll be keeping him for a while with his great fixtures. Get Austin or Giroud IMO, playing in much better sides which should score more often.

  21. nkhoughton
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    What are people's thoughts on Anichebe long/short term?

    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Cheap.

    2. makaveli123
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Enabler. He will not average 10 pts / week.

    3. rnrd
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      he is a 3-5-2 option that possibly could offer rotation to 3-4-3 when SUN has interesting home fixtures.
      Also, he is pretty fresh as we has missed the start of the season so might offer good prospects over the xmas period

  22. boc610
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    RIP Alexis as OOP striker

    fun while it lasted.

  23. Shirokov(c)
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Has Wenger randomly come out and just said that he'll be starting Giroud from now on?

    Becasue if he hasn't, can't understand the sudden love.

    1. IWR
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Very much hinted at it. Worth the gamble with those fixtures I feel

    2. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      See my post at the top of this page

  24. MANGE TOUT RODNEY
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Horrible week this week, possibly worst ever. 21 pts with only Foster to go tonight! Have slipped back down to below 200k.

    What, if anything, would you do with the below, or save FT?

    I was going to get rid of Rashford for Austin but he’s got West Ham at home this weekend so maybe one more week and bank the FT...

    Otherwise I’m pretty happy with my team. No Chelsea cover though...

    Thanks

    Foster/Heaton

    Walker – Fuchs – Williams (Smith/Pieters)

    Ozil – Coutinho – Alli – Zaha (Capoue)

    Aguero – Lukaku - Rashford

    1. jia you
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Need CHE or you will be slipping further mate imo!
      Fuchs to CHE defender would be good.

    2. *sigh*
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Think you maybe can start to downgrade your subs bench (i.e. Foster to Pickford, Capoue to De Roon) and upgrade starting eleven.

  25. Irish Madridista ⭐
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Have gone from 10k at one stage aaaaall the way down to 550k... Need to stop the rot.
    15 points this week with 23 on the bench!

    How does this look for next week gents?
    1FT, 0.0itb, leaning towards saving to reassess I think..

    Heaton
    Evans - Koscielny - Fuchs
    Mane(C) - Coutinho - Walcott - Capoue(VC)
    Kun - Lukaku - Austin

    ((Pickford - Lallana - Williams - Kone))

    1. Shirokov(c)
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      How long is Lallana out for? Not tempted by Sigster?

      1. Irish Madridista ⭐
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        2-3 weeks I think..

        Very tempted. Just not sure who I'd play him over this week and unsure about Walcott..

        Hypothetically could keep Lallana and swap out Walcott for Siggy next week if Giroud/Ramsey has a negative effect on Walcott...

    2. Gooner Kebab
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Team looked solid, what caused the big slide?

      1. Irish Madridista ⭐
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Lack of Chelsea, poor captaincies, bad transfers... The usual 😀

  26. denial
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Sanchez is looking overpriced to me now. People agree?

    1. boc610
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      if he's no longer up top, definitely

      1. Moose™
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Isn't he is better at left wing tho?

  27. woody3260
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Upgrade defence, shift gundogan, or get on Kane/Hazard hype?

    Karius
    Amat McAuley Pieters
    Gundogan Mane Firmino Walcott
    Lukaku Aguero Costa

    Jaku Capoue Williams Smith

    2FT 2.0ITB

  28. CCaddy
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    What do you think of this agueroless team?

    Heaton Pickford

    Kos Tony Alonso Evans Amat

    Hazard coutinho firmino siggy fletcher

    Costa Kane Austin

    1. IWR
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Like it

    2. Moose™
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Splendid.

  29. Moose™
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 18 days ago

    Rose(!) Sanchez Keane(!) to McAuley Hazard Austin. Worth -4 hits right?

    1. _Gunner
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      Sanchez might get a haul this weekend, monitor the transfers after the CL matches

      1. Moose™
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Still have Walcott to cover me. Fingers crossed tho.