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West Ham United’s summer spending has continued in the last few days with the capture of Andriy Yarmolenko from Borussia Dortmund for an undisclosed fee, thought to be in the region of £17.5m.

The Ukraine international has signed a four-year deal with the Hammers and was Manuel Pellegrini’s fifth recruit after the signings of Ryan Fredericks, Jack Wilshere, Lukasz Fabianski and Issa Diop. Attacking midfielder Felipe Anderson has since signed from Lazio for a club-record fee.

The 28-year-old winger has an eye-catching goal-scoring record in his native country, having scored on 99 occasions in 227 league appearances for Dynamo Kyiv (the fifth-highest goal haul in Ukrainian Premier League history) before his move to the Bundesliga a year ago.

Yarmolenko also registered 65 assists in his time with the Ukrainian giants and has 35 goals in 77 appearances for his national side.

With Marko Arnautovic having been reclassified as a £7.0m forward in Fantasy Premier League ahead of the coming season, Yarmolenko’s listing as a midfielder for the same price is particularly convenient for those Fantasy managers who are unconvinced and unhappy at the maverick Austrian’s positional conversion.

Whereas Arnatouvic has only hit double figures for goals in a season on three occasions, Yarmolenko achieved this feat seven years in a row while at Kyiv.

The 6′ 3″ winger would seem set to play on the flank in Pellegrini’s preferred 4-2-3-1 formation, though attention will have to be paid to the Hammers’ pre-season friendlies for any tactical tweaks by the Chilean manager.

West Ham’s Director of Football, Mario Husillos, said of the club’s latest capture:

He is a left-footed player but can play on the right and is very quick, very good one-on-one against a defender. He gives the team a lot of attacking options and scores goals, is fast on the counter-attack and provides aerial threat with his height.

The History

Yarmolenko’s club career began with Desna Chernihiv in the same Ukrainian city where he had progressed through the youth system.

It was from Chernihiv that Yarmolenko made the move to Dynamo Kyiv, where he had previously – and briefly – spent time as an academy player.

Featuring initially for the Ukrainian giants’ reserve side, the rangy winger made his first-team debut at the age of 18 towards the end of the 2007/08 season. Yarmolenko marked that cameo substitute appearance against Vorskla Poltava with the winning goal in Kyiv’s 2-1 victory.

Yarmolenko made only three starts and seven substitute appearances in 2008/09, failing to register a goal or assist, but his breakthrough year with Kyiv came the following season.

Still only 19 at the start of the campaign, Yarmolenko made 27 appearances for Kyiv throughout the season (starting all but one of those matches), scoring on seven occasions and providing a further four assists. The youngster also made his first appearances in the UEFA Champions League, with Barcelona and Inter among the Ukrainian side’s group opponents.

From 2010/11 onwards, Yarmolenko hit at least ten goals in each of the next seven seasons. His best single-season goal haul (15) was in his final full campaign with Kyiv, while a total of 14 assists in 2014/15 was his creative peak.

Yarmolenko at Dynamo Kyiv
SeasonAppearancesGoalsAssists
2007/08110
2008/091000
2009/102774
2010/1126119
2011/1228127
2012/1327117
2013/1426126
2014/15261414
2015/16231310
2016/1728157
2017/18531

After five league appearances for Kyiv at the start of the 2017/18 season, Yarmolenko signed for Borussia Dortmund for a reported €25m.

The Ukraine international’s first season outside of his home country was something of a disappointment, however, with Yarmolenko failing to recapture the form he had exhibited for several years in his homeland. The winger ended the season with three goals and five assists from 18 Bundesliga appearances – his worst attacking statistics in a decade – although injury did keep him out for two months earlier this calendar year.

Yarmolenko has a wealth of European experience to his name too, having made a combined 86 appearances in the Champions League and Europa League. The wide midfielder has scored on 20 occasions and set up as many goals in his European endeavours.

The Prospects

Yarmolenko’s struggles in Germany temper his consistently excellent returns in Ukraine and the concern for Hammers fans and FPL managers alike is whether the winger will once again flatter to deceive outside of his homeland.

Despite a so-so debut season with Dortmund, Yarmolenko’s underlying creativity statistics still bode well for his prospects this season. The wide-midfielder created a chance every 37 minutes in the Bundesliga in 2017/18, a better rate of key passes than any of his new team-mates in midfield – including Arnautovic.

It should also be noted that Yarmolenko’s impressive assist count for Kyiv doesn’t include many of the “Fantasy assists” that are rewarded in FPL.

Yarmolenko averaged a shot every 33.6 minutes for Dortmund, an only slightly inferior mean than Arnautovic (32.7), who played a large chunk of the season for West Ham as a striker. The Ukrainian winger’s minutes-per-chance rate beat all other Hammers’ midfielders, including Manuel Lanzini.

Yarmolenko started out his career with Kyiv on the left wing but soon became a permanent fixture on the opposite flank as an inverted winger in the Arjen Robben/Riyad Mahrez mould. Nineteen of the Ukrainian wide-midfielder’s 31 attempts on goal for Dortmund last season were from his left boot, underscoring his predilection for cutting inside onto his favoured foot.

With Andy Carroll and Manuel Lanzini out for extended periods and Javier Hernandez having participated in the World Cup this summer, Arnautovic could again be the focal point of the Hammers’ attack at the beginning of 2018/19, though further recruitment in the striking position would seem likely.

Either way, Yarmolenko should be a near-certain starter on his favoured right flank and help alleviate the goal-scoring burden carried by Arnautovic in Carroll and Lanzini’s absence.

Other than appealing home fixtures against Bournemouth and Wolves, West Ham have a difficult-looking start to 2018/19 (the Hammers play five of the “big six” in the first nine Gameweeks) and many of their assets are perhaps best avoided until the fixture schedule eases. That would give us ample time to assess Yarmolenko’s value as a mid-priced midfielder and whether he is worthy of consideration for our Fantasy squads – or indeed, like compatriot Andriy Shevchenko, if his move to the Premier League has come while his powers are on the wane.

 

  1. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Not sure about mane - can you RMT and see if I need changes?

    Ederson, 4.0
    Robertson, Coleman, daniels, Tompkins, Cedric
    Sanchez, mane, Mkhi, Walcott, Hughes
    Kun, firmino, wood

    1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      solid overall but id try to get Salah for mane and sacrifice one of Sanchez/Firmino + Wood. Also .5 saved cause you don’t need 3 4.5 defs.

      1. Lord Flashheart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I can do mane and firmino to salah and Austin I guess...

        1. Maddi Son
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I was going with Mane & Firmino too until I realised they only got 25 points more than Salah combined last season. As annoying as it is, Salah + £6m seems the way to go.

        2. Murder On Zidanesfloor
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Salah Essential. Just look at hos ownership. Big risk to go without him

  2. Jordan.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    latest musings

    de ges

    van aanholt / cedric / coleman

    milivojevic / eriksen / mahrez / delofeu / cairney

    tosun / (f)irmino

    speroni / aubemeyang / bellerin / mendy

    1. stat
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Benching Auba?

        1. Jordan.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          im resting him till gw3,save a transfer ,strictly no hits this year,gonna go with a strong bench ,I fancy bobbie plus 4 coins and eriksen plus 3 coins instead of salah and kane might be fruitful,but then again 3 more weeks of tinkering yet,what is a given is that everybody who actually scores gw1 would have been in my office...

          1. stat
              7 years, 4 months ago

              I don't understand why you would start Milivojevic ahead of Auba in GW 1

            • DantheManinaPan
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Utter BANANAS

            • TheDonald
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              "i'm resting him till gw3" hahaha

              your benching of him in for the first 2 gameweeks won't magically make him well rested and ready to go from gameweek 3 onwards.

            • J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              This is the most ridiculous logic I have ever read on here!

              You alright?

        2. Bissisine
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Dayum, imagine that team have bench boost , haha. Really good

        3. Murder On Zidanesfloor
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Benching Auba? Makes little to no sense, Arsenal vs City can be a goal fest

        4. Brosstan
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I assume its a joke that Deloufeu, Cairney, Cedric and Mili are playing with that bench.

          1. el polako
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Smoke screen.

        5. Brehmeren
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Never bench premium players

        6. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I’m sorry but benching Aubameyang (or any 11.0m) in favour of Tom Cairney and Deulofeu... is this a wind up, or do you know something we don’t?

      • Bissisine
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        What about this 4-2-2 team?? I think it's very hot.

        Ederson
        Cedric, Van Aanholt, Coleman, TAA
        Salah, Sane, Sessegnon, Willian
        Auba, Firmino

        Thanx

        1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Wait on Sessegnon. Reverse OOP

          1. Bissisine
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            OOP?

      • Scotty B
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Please RMT...Thank you

        Ederson
        Cedric Azpi Smalling Daniels
        Salah Mkhi Silva Sanchez
        Firmino Tosun

        4.0 gk Tomkins Kamara 4.5 mid

        1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Twist

          1. Scotty B
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            And shout. Twist and shout ccccccccccome on now baby

          2. Scotty B
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            I knew you were a Beatles fan

      • Pariße
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Guys remember, GW1 is about balance. I see a lot of teams loaded with players from the same teams, you're putting all you eggs in one basket with little relevant information available.

        1. stat
            7 years, 4 months ago

            I would rather put all my eggs in one basket in some cases based on the fixtures than go for players with terrible fixtures instead. For example at the moment I can't find a better defender than Coleman at 5.5, nor a better mid than Siggy at 7.5 (already have Ramsey), nor a better striker than Tosun at 7.

            1. Pariße
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              What if Everton is the easy fixture? Don't triple up on them.

          • Karan_G14
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            City/Pool doubles & triples are decent imo.

            1. Brosstan
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              City doubles are asking for trouble unless you have a good bench. See plenty with Mahrez/Sane/Aguero (2 or 3) and then absolute crap on the bench. Wonder what they will do once 2 of them are benched against Huddersfield

          • Cok3y5murf
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            I think you're referring to coverage which doesn't exist.

            1. Brosstan
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              I dont think its the same as coverage. This is more about risk management. We have limited information on which teams will be great and which will be poor, so its high risk to have 3 from one team. Lower risk to have players from several teams. If you have 3 City and 0 Arsenal its harder to get in several Arsenal players if they look to be in great shape than if you have 2 City and 1 Arsenal.

              1. Cok3y5murf
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                Do we really expect City of all teams to be poor? Besides, we have pre-season to get an idea.

                Even if Arsenal turn out to be great this quickly which is unlikely, I don't expect them to score loads of goals in their first 2 games. They're notorious for getting smashed by big teams.

                1. Brosstan
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  No I dont expect City to be poor it was just an example 🙂 Could make the same case for people who have 3 Everton instead of 1 Everton 1 CPL 1 Wolves or something. Its high risk vs low risk, not about coverage.

                2. Pariße
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  Brosstan made some great points, tripling up on City is not that much of a risk, but I'm just saying it's unwise to begin a season assured in something when there's going to be little relevant infromation available. Unless you want to wildcard in GW4, tripling up on Everton is asking for trouble, you need room for manuevre in GW1, that's what it's all about, to prepare your team for quick changes if necessary.

            2. Pariße
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              I meant balance in teams and budget, coverage does exist in GW1.

          • Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Never pick a team for the season on GW1!

            1. Business Cat
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              This...best laid plans and all that.

              Try for 6-8 GWs...see how it goes

          • Deulofail
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            GW1 is about whatever you want to to be about. And for me, something like 'balance' doesn't even enter into the equation, sorry.

            1. Pariße
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Of course, have fun with your bad rank then 🙂

          • LSK
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            I don’t agree. When teams have favourable fixtures mid-season I’d love to be able to get 2 or 3 in but it’s not always possible. At the beginning it is.

            1. Pariße
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              But how do you know which teams are the ''easy fixtures'' before the season starts?

        2. RATEBT
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Thoughts on this team?

          Ederson

          Bailly Cedric Tomkins

          Salah Sanchez Mahrez Mkhitaryan Deulofeu

          Aguero Zaha

          Subs: 4.0 - Daniels - Quaner - Schelotto

          1. Emiliano Sala
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Too weak bench

            1. TheDonald
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Agree. You should take a leaf out of Jordan's book and play Quaner over Salah.

              1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                😆 quality

          2. George James
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Good team that

        3. Emiliano Sala
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          3 striker spot
          I think one of them should be firmino for the start
          Premium strikers does not seem so good at the start
          And if fulham signs mitrovic, there will be too good cheap strikers to ignore
          I'm going with firmino and 2 of these: tosun, zaha and mitrovic
          Maybe tosun(if nailed) and mitrovic
          But how is whole fulham club situation? Right back left
          Left back gone back to saints
          Do they have enough quality players?

          1. Lord Flashheart
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            How will you get auba in gw3?

            1. Emiliano Sala
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              I will get lacazette instead of firmino gw4

          2. el polako
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Auba and Bobby for me, 3rd spot will be decided closer to the season start based on pre-season - pragmatic innit 😉

          3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            I have a striker headache now.

            Firmino, Auba, Kun.
            Zaha, Tosun, Arnie.
            Laca, Morata, Austin.
            King, Kaku, Kane.

            There are way too many.

            Might just stick to my original plan of Firmino, Austin, 7.0 & money ITB to jump from either Austin or the 7.0 to either Kun or Bamayang if they do a mental in GW1 or GW2.

          4. LSK
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Aguero, Firmino, King is what I’ve gone for. Probably Aguero to Auba gwk 3

        4. Steevo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Begovic | (Fabianski)
          Robertson | Davies | Coleman | Cedric | (Peltier)
          Salah | Sanchez | Mkhi | Cairney | (Stephens)
          Aguero | Firmino | (Kamara)

          Happy with the 442 but a couple of Qs:
          A) Cairney or Ralls?
          B) Peltier or Wan-Bissaka?

          1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Cairny and Peltier

          2. Murder On Zidanesfloor
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Actually. I have no idea about Ralls

        5. Fat Frank
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          PVA & Hoilett
          Or
          4.5m def & Jota

          Thanks

          1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            PVA and Deulo

            1. WVA
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              This

            2. Fat Frank
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Cheers

        6. WVA
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Really happy with this 442. Which two 5.0 mids would you choose?

          Ederson
          Bavies Robbo Bailly/Jones Christensen/Emerson
          Salah Eriksen Cairney/Mcarther Douglas/Ralls
          Aguero Auba
          Speroni Chalobah Kamara Peltier

          1. Business Cat
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Douglas is a 5m defender, not a mid (unless there's two)

            1. WVA
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Apologies meant Costa from Wolves

              1. Business Cat
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                In answer to the question, Cairney and Ralls are both 5m and on pens/set-pieces I believe...you'd prefer Cairney probably.

                If you can afford it, shoot for Jota over Costa. Personally I'd not have Eriksen in there, maybe Mahrez in initialky to free up some loose change. Maybe even Siggy etc...notice there's no Everton in there for their stupidly good fixtures.

                1. WVA
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  Thank you very much, might start with Cairney and Ralls. I regard Eriksen as pretty much essential and a season keeper. It's quite likely I'll bring Coleman and Pva in if theres no certainty around the united and chelsea defenders.

          2. BananaNose Maldonado
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Costa and Pritchard.

        7. ladbaby
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          will mendy start gw1?

          1. Deulofail
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Probably not. In strong contention from GW2 onwards, I'd say.

            1. Davido989
              • 15 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              I would take this.

              1. Deulofail
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                The problem being that "in strong contention" doesn't mean "will start" 😐 In my team at the moment

        8. Bambi
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Thoiughts on getting all 4 of Salah, Sanchez, Aguero, Auba? It's easier to downgrade than to take hits to get them in? Start with them all

          Patricio - 4.0
          Coleman - Bailly - Cedric - Tomkins - Peltier
          Salah - Sanchez - Jota - Hughes - Stephens
          Aguero - Aubameyang - 6.0

          1. WVA
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Nope.
            All high scoring defenders from top teams last season

            1. Bambi
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              long term yes. Short term it's covering the explosive forwards/mids that ensures strong gw points

          2. Maddi Son
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            You can build a pretty good squad with 3 of those 4.

            1. Bambi
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              the question becomes which 3? I'm not comfortable going without any tbh

              1. Maddi Son
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                Yeah I know that feeling. I ended up going without Sanchez, even though I think he's a quality pick.

          3. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            For the life of me I cannot see why anyone would pay 10.5 for Sanchez.

            I think many 7.5M and below mids will easily outscore him in the beginning of the season - Willian/Siggy + 3M ITB for starters.

        9. Emiliano Sala
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Give me your advices please
          I want kdb and pogba, but it's not likely that they start gw1(pogba has high chance to start gw2)
          So, instead of them I have eriksen + mahrez for now
          What to do?
          Plan transfers for gw2/3 ?
          Or just get pogba instead of eriksen and ignore his gw1 blank?

        10. stat
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Mahrez over David Silva?

            1. ladbaby
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              yes for me

            2. Davido989
              • 15 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Might have both.

              1. Flynny
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                Key question....

            3. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Mahrez

          • Cok3y5murf
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Am I the only one who doesn't feel the need for Robertson?

            I mean, his 6m price is perfect, but other than him and VVD, every Pool defender is 5m or less. Do you really want to pay an extra 1m just for a few random assists he'll get over the season?

            1. Bambi
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              not really considered him tbh. Coleman appeals for .5 less. Bailly likely to start for UTD whose defence is better. Would be cautious of TAA though having only just arrived home.

              1. Bambi
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                lovren also a doubt for start

              2. Deulofail
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                United's defence isn't much better than Liverpool's, if it is at all. You'd have to see goals coming from Bailly for him to be better value than Robertson imo

                1. Bambi
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  robertson is 25% more expensive than Bailly. Will he keep 25% more clean sheets? doubt it.

                  1. Business Cat
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 4 months ago

                    He will get assists and goals though...Bailly won't

                  2. LSK
                    • 7 Years
                    7 years, 4 months ago

                    Huh? He’s 0.5 million more isn’t he?

                    1. Bambi
                      • 13 Years
                      7 years, 4 months ago

                      you have to subtract the base price of defenders (4.0). So its effectively 2.0 vs 1.5. so 25% increase

                      1. Deulofail
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 4 months ago

                        You don't *have* to, but I got what you meant

                      2. LSK
                        • 7 Years
                        7 years, 4 months ago

                        Cheers. I was scratching my head thinking I’d gone mad but yeah that makes sense

                  3. Deulofail
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 4 months ago

                    You'd have to see goals coming from Bailly for him to be better value than Robertson imo...

                    Because Robertson is expected to score goals.

            2. Deulofail
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Not in my team at the moment. I do like the look of TAA and Clyne, even with rotation. Bavies at 5.5 was popular last season with constant question marks over his head, so you could get Clyne and switch to TAA if TAA makes himself preferred after some time. Or get TAA if you really have that mich faith in him already (lots do). Wouldn't touch Lovren, though, tbh.

            3. Davido989
              • 15 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Robertson is worth the outlay IMO.

              Trent is good value too, but he'll be rotated a fair bit.

              The CB situation is unclear. Depends if a new one is signed.

            4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
              • 15 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              I really want VVD. I spent the last 10 games of last season watching him go close in nearly every game from corners and he odd pot shot. He’s he most nailed out of all their backline too & as good a defensive lynchpin as any, plenty of ways to score points.

              Despite what others will say I am CONVINCED he is due a goal soon!

              1. Deulofail
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                Agreed about VVD. If he just got one goal last season, he'd be in much more teams I think, becuase he'd have an extra 6-9 points to his name, and people would remember his goal threat a bit better. That said, TAA and Robertson (especially) blew him out the water in PPM. Southampton wouldn't have helped, but he was far from making up the difference at Liverpool, which is difficult to swallow when you're taking a 6.0 leap of faith.

                1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                  • 15 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  I see his certainty of starts making up for any deficiency in PPM, as well as hopefully a catch up in his attacking returns with the odd goal & Assist. Robertson only got into the team last year when Moreno got injured last year, then Moreno never really got fit again until right at the death.

                  I think Robertson wills definitely miss games here & there for Moreno, so hoping VVD’s nailedness will be better overall. We shall see!

                  1. Deulofail
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 4 months ago

                    If my 6.0 defender down't play, I'd have someone like Deulofeu or Douglas coming on, so I could afford some rotation. I don't have any Pool defence at the moment, but I wouldn't be averse based on nailedness grounds.. As you say, it would only be the odd game rather than full blown rotation

                    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                      • 15 Years
                      7 years, 4 months ago

                      Very true. Douglas is very interesting at 5.0. I see him in the same boat as PVA & Coleman as begin potentially lucrative if things go their way.

                      1. Deulofail
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 4 months ago

                        Got all three along with Mendy as it stands 🙂

                  2. Emp
                    • 13 Years
                    7 years, 4 months ago

                    Nonsense Robertson blew Moreno out of the water perhaps much later in the season might miss one or two games but hardly relavent now

            5. Hotdogs for Tea
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Those two are nailed, the rest aren’t

              1. Cok3y5murf
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                Two players are going to be nailed for the other two spots. Or at least one of them. We just don't know who they are yet. Happy to spend 5m when I do.

                1. Davido989
                  • 15 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  Maybe at CB, but there won't be a nailed RB. Clyne missed most of last season to injury.

            6. Business Cat
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              He was superb 2nd half of last season...beat Alonso etc. into a cocked hat.

              No WC, fully rested, ready and raring to go...he was the first name in my team this time round

              1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                • 15 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                Him & a fully fit Moreno will definitely share games though

                1. Business Cat
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  Really? Can't see Moreno getting anything but cup games.

                2. Hotdogs for Tea
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  Can’t see Moreno getting any minutes over Robertson - Robertson was simply the best full back in the league in the second half of the season, great stats

            7. Freshy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              its about the pack of wolves he crosses to

          • Dyballer
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Rate this team please? Set out for GW1:

            Begovic
            Davies, Coleman, Douglas, Kabasele
            Salah, Sigurdsson, Knockaert, Ibe
            Agüero, Aubameyang

            Bench: Ederson, Dunk, Maddison, Kamara

            Plan is for this team to last for the first 10 GWs or so. Only transfers in mind are Davies to Mendy after GW2 if he’s nailed and then possibly Ederson and Mendy out again after GW7.

            I wanted Mee in defence originally, but I don’t want to risk getting Burnley defenders with Europa League looming. Kabasele and Dunk will be rotated, as will Knockaert and Ibe for most weeks. Kamara is a bench fodder lol.

          • The Royal Robin
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Really tempted by Sanchez. Rested, and some decent(ish) fixtures to start with.

            1. Flynny
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Doesn't Mourinho put you off??

            2. Cok3y5murf
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              If he was in a better club than United, he would be a steal at 10.5m. At United, I'm thinking about it.

              1. The Royal Robin
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                I get the Mou comments, I even get the Utd comments, just. But he's a 15 goal player, surely.

                1. Davido989
                  • 15 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  So are other players, who are significantly cheaper.

                  1. Cok3y5murf
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 4 months ago

                    I think only Firmino and Vardy got 15+ goals last season and are cheaper. And Sanchez hit 24 the season before.

            3. Wirtzle Gummidge
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              My captain.

            4. Epic Fail
              • 15 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              I guess it's a case of you can't have them all. Far too many big hitters in the Premier League nowadays.

              1. Business Cat
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                ...Real and Barca will fix that!

          • TheTwelfthMan
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Not sure but it's been pointed out, but one notable Chilean missing....

            Manchester United pre-season tour squad:

            Romero, Pereira, Grant

            Valencia, Darmian, Dalot, Fosu-Mensah, Williams, Smalling, Bailly, Tuanzebe, Mitchell, Shaw

            Garner, Herrera, Pereira, McTominay, Hamilton

            Chong, Gomes, Mata, Martial, Greenwood, Bohui

            1. Davido989
              • 15 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Why's that?

              1. TheTwelfthMan
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                No clue, the official Man Utd site did also hype the fact that it was Sanchez's first full summer break in 9 years a lot.

            2. lugs
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              maybe he is fly from Chile to meet them in the US ?

          • Greyhead
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            McCarthy, Fab
            Azi, Robbo, Cedric, Daniels, Tomkins
            Salah, Sane, Jota, Wally, Stephens
            Kun, Zaha, Arnie

            What’s wrong?

            1. Epic Fail
              • 15 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Looks ok.

            2. Netley Lucas
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              I fear Daniels is on the slide, rest looks fine but I'd prefer Bobby over Arnie but it needs a bit of surgery to do that. 7/10

            3. The_Adam
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              McCarthy may not be first choice now they've signed Gunn.

          • Viiksisika
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            This is it:

            Leno | Watford GK
            Mendy | Davies | Tomkins | Ogbonna | Cedric
            Sanchez | Mane | Eriksen | Ramsey | 4.5
            Aguero | Benteke | Austin

            First draft 😀 I would like to go without Salah but dunno if I should.

          • stat
              7 years, 4 months ago

              I've taken out Aguero so I could improve my midfield and GKs. Any thoughts?

              Foster - Guaita
              Robertson - Coleman - Cedric - Bamba - Tomkins
              Salah - Mahrez - Sigurdsson - Ramsey - Jota
              Auba - Tosun - Quaner

              1. Brosstan
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                Looks good. Auba > Kun

                1. stat
                    7 years, 4 months ago

                    I prefer Auba because there are no question marks over whether he starts week in week out, and I don't want to plan transfers ahead of time. I think Auba will be one of the highest scoring strikers this season.

                    1. Brosstan
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 4 months ago

                      I actually meant it approvingly as in Auba is greater than Kun

                      1. stat
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          Whoops, didn't realize
                          Do you think Mahrez is a better pick over D. Silva + 0.5?

                          1. Brosstan
                            • 11 Years
                            7 years, 4 months ago

                            I dont like Pep's comment about Silva age and rotation. I think that means he will play more in important games and rest in easier games, which is bad for FPL. I have Mahrez myself, but its kind of a toss-up with Pep. Either way I think its necessary to have a good bench if you have City mids/forwards

                            1. stat
                                7 years, 4 months ago

                                Yeah, the annoying thing being that Pep will inevitably bring on Mahrez when he gets benched

                    2. Business Cat
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 4 months ago

                      Who's Bamba?

                      Also, isn't triple Everton over-egging it a bit?

                      1. stat
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          Bamba is a 4.5M Cardiff CB who has scored a couple of goals here and there. I have him because he rotates well with Tomkins + Cedric.

                          At 5.5 I don't see a better defender than Coleman.
                          At 7.5 I don't see a better mid than Sigurdsson (bar Ramsey, who I already have).
                          At 7 Tosun's fixtures edge it over Zaha and Arnie, who we don't know if they'll start up front.

                          1. The Bandit
                            • 15 Years
                            7 years, 4 months ago

                            Siggy isn't fit to lace Wally's boots and Wally is 6.5

                            1. stat
                                7 years, 4 months ago

                                If it turns out that Siggy is on set pieces then it's hard to make the case for Walcott outscoring him (or being better value).

                            2. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 11 Years
                              7 years, 4 months ago

                              I think Willian will outscore Siggy.

                        • the snazzy viking
                          • 9 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          yeah very good

                      2. Patch
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 4 months ago

                        Is everyone deleting the mcdonalds app then...how do I keep track of my history?

                        I guess I can login from website version but just worried I will lose all my progress....

                        1. TorresMagic™
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • Has Moderation Rights
                          • 16 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          Take a screenshot.

                        2. Fuchs Mane Kante
                          • 9 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          Save the receipts.

                      3. Uncle Avram
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 4 months ago

                        Can someone RMT this lot. 442

                        Fabianski
                        TAA/Young/Alonso/Mendy
                        Salah/Sane/Keita/Yarmalenko
                        Auba/Arnie

                        Speroni/Peltier/Stephens/Kamara

                        1. Patch
                          • 8 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          Prob a 4 due to WC and manager uncertainty

                      4. Duffy Dunk
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 4 months ago

                        Ederson Hamed
                        Azpilicueta Smalling Robertson Bellerin Cedric
                        Salah Sane Jota Deulofeu Cairney
                        Aubameyang Zaha Kamara

                        I like the fact it covers clean sheets of MCI MUN LIV CHE ARS.
                        Thoughts?

                        1. Jigger & Pony
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 12 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          Nah too much money at the back for me

                        2. Emp
                          • 13 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          It's very good

                        3. disarrays11
                          • 8 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          I like it a lot! Go for it, defence is great value, maybe consider Van Aanholt or Coleman for the first few gameweeks since Bellerin has City and Chelsea

                        4. disarrays11
                          • 8 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          Also, Tosun/King seem better value to me than Zaha. Tosun: great opening fixtures and attack play with Silva as coach, King, good fixtures and penalty duty. Also Zaha played out wide again in first friendly.

                      5. Jigger & Pony
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 4 months ago

                        Is Jordan Ibe worth considering for a 5.5m mid?

                        1. Business Cat
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          Nope

                        2. Flynny
                          • 10 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          He is an option....but prefer cairney...

                          1. Dyballer
                            • 7 Years
                            7 years, 4 months ago

                            I would have gone for Cairney if Fulham hadn’t have bought Seri, because now the assists and goals will be split amongst Cairney / Johansen / Seri and that’s only CMs in a team I don’t expect to finish above 14th

                        3. Dyballer
                          • 7 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          I think he is. If you look at his stats near the end of the season, he really improved Bournemouth as an attacking force, with the most shots as a mid in th final few weeks, and the spot is his to lose coming into this season with Stanislas still injured. I currently have him in my team as a rotating mid with Knockaert, who also underperformed in terms of goal/assist but actually performed really well otherwise. Expecting a Mahrez season from Knockaert now and hopefully Ibe can show his worth too

                          1. Business Cat
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 11 Years
                            7 years, 4 months ago

                            All those cheap Bournemouth mids, you never know which ones will play...it's worse than Cith rotation!

                            Stanislas, Pugh, Arter, Fraser, Ibe, Cook...they all come and go at random

                            1. Dyballer
                              • 7 Years
                              7 years, 4 months ago

                              True actually. Best to watch pre-season tho. I think the only reason there was so much rotation was coz nobody was in terrific form. Hopefully Bournemouth can find a set squad for fantasy sake

                          2. Jigger & Pony
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 12 Years
                            7 years, 4 months ago

                            Yes he had a strong finish last season, which is why I was considering him

                        4. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          He’s a troll, stay away!

                      6. Flynny
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 4 months ago

                        Evening....any views on this team please?

                        Foster fab
                        Robbo mendy Cedric tomkins daniels
                        Salah mahrez jota cairney Stephens
                        Auba firmino tosun

                        Mendy will be benched at arsenal gw1

                        Thanks

                        1. Chenku╰☆╮
                          • 11 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          Mendy might not start for a couple if gws.. his price will drop..

                          1. Flynny
                            • 10 Years
                            7 years, 4 months ago

                            Cheers...lots of people saying that - but what I that based on....

                            Surely he is fresh having not featured at world up??

                            Thanks

                            1. Chenku╰☆╮
                              • 11 Years
                              7 years, 4 months ago

                              That’s the problem for me.. he didn’t get game time at the wc.. seems like he is not fully match fit.. also pep might ease him back in and work out tactics so might not be nailed till he proves himself

                              1. Flynny
                                • 10 Years
                                7 years, 4 months ago

                                Cheers.... for a lot of city players it will be a wait and see depending on charity shield team....

                                Mendy and the mahrez v silva issue...

                              2. Marmalade Forest
                                • 8 Years
                                7 years, 4 months ago

                                Who will play at left back for City at the start of the season? -Delph played more and was there as long
                                -Danilo played more and isn’t really considered good enough
                                -Laporte? Sane at wingback?

                            2. Business Cat
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 11 Years
                              7 years, 4 months ago

                              He's still in the French squad and will have been training most days.

                              Should get a couple of weeks off and will join up with City late in pre-season

                        2. Business Cat
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          About as template as humanly possible 🙂

                          1. Flynny
                            • 10 Years
                            7 years, 4 months ago

                            That's good then....

                        3. Freddo
                          • 8 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          Well balanced but no United/Chelsea defender could be quite annoying, they'll keep a lot of clean sheets and going without was quite annoying last year for the rank due to being so mass owned.

                          1. Flynny
                            • 10 Years
                            7 years, 4 months ago

                            Cheers...you can't have them all....

                            Chelsea seem unknown quantity with sarri

                            United - hard to know who is nailed to start at the back....

                      7. Marmalade Forest
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 4 months ago

                        Jumping on the RMTs

                        Ederson Fabiabski
                        Mendy Alonso Azpilicueta Daniels Bellerin
                        Sane Mhki Walcott Jota Masuaku
                        PEA Firmino Kamara

                        My general thoughts are:
                        -I’m happy to bench a 4.5 striker. I’m fed up of burning money on £7m strikers early doors for them to drop in price by GW3 and score less than the big boy wingbacks.
                        -None of them spent a lot of time playing at the World Cup.
                        -I know Sane isn’t nailed on, but who is in the City front 5?
                        -Arsenal and Chelsea aren’t in the UCL
                        -At 50% ownership, Salah can’t rise much on price can he? But he can drop fast and hard if he has a poor start.
                        -No Spurs fullbacks until we know more

                        1. Chenku╰☆╮
                          • 11 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          Really good draft..ditch fan if you have ederson..

                        2. stat
                            7 years, 4 months ago

                            Ederson + Fabianski is way too much spent on GKs. When are you going to bench Ederson?

                            1. Marmalade Forest
                              • 8 Years
                              7 years, 4 months ago

                              I suppose it’s if/when I sell Ederson to free up a City spot for another mid or fwd if/when they’re scoring five a game. I don’t want to have to sell two keepers.

                          • Deulofail
                            • 9 Years
                            7 years, 4 months ago

                            -This year's 7.0 strikers are differnt from last years.

                            -This season the players will score different points than last year.

                            -There are strikers available at 5.0, 5.5, 6.0, 6.5, etc... so 7.0 isn't a stand-alone non-premium, non-4.5 option.

                            For these reasons, I think you shouldn't dismiss the idea of a third striker, especially when you have quite a bit of money sitting on the bench.

                            Concerning Salah, I wouldn't expect him to drop fast. Fast drops happen when large proportions of managers sell a player, e.g. players with fickle owners who are looking for a quick buck and/or care about the points rather than the player. Salah has a large ownership from Egyptian (and non-Egyptian) worshippers, and as you can tell from this place, he is expected to be a contender for golden boot again, regardless of whether he scores in gameweek 1 or not.

                            Concerning PEA, I prefer the acronym PEEF, because it's hilarious.

                        3. Dušan Citizen
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          Which one is better?

                          A) Salah Mahrez Deulofeu 5.0 Gunnarsson
                          or
                          B) Mane Sane Mahrez Hughes Gunnarsson

                          Would mostly play 4 at the back with Alonso Valencia Robertson Coleman and Peltier.

                        4. The Bandit
                          • 15 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          So many playing four (or even five) defenders... when has that ever worked? 😕

                          1. TorresMagic™
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • Has Moderation Rights
                            • 16 Years
                            7 years, 4 months ago

                            Worked well early last season.

                              1. Patch
                                • 8 Years
                                7 years, 4 months ago

                                Haha good man, hold those grudges ;0)

                              2. TorresMagic™
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • Has Moderation Rights
                                • 16 Years
                                7 years, 4 months ago

                                If season long.......

                                1. Deulofail
                                  • 9 Years
                                  7 years, 4 months ago

                                  😆 at that point you were already backtracking after a couple of months' fixation on my formation. It was the most frustrating time of my life 😆

                          2. Cok3y5murf
                            • 9 Years
                            7 years, 4 months ago

                            Last season when I started with 5-3-2 and reached 25k in 10 weeks.

                          3. Freddo
                            • 8 Years
                            7 years, 4 months ago

                            At the start of last season.

                          4. Davido989
                            • 15 Years
                            7 years, 4 months ago

                            Worked for me last season. Finished 3k

                          5. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
                            • 16 Years
                            7 years, 4 months ago

                            Works in the World cup game as well

                          6. Dyballer
                            • 7 Years
                            7 years, 4 months ago

                            It really depends on what players you buy. Nobody can really afford that many premium players however with the price of Salah, so I reckon this is why ppl think it’s wiser to bank on cheaper defenders to keep clean sheets than the likes of Wilson up front to score goals. I personally think 4 defender formations are the best with 4-4-2 looking like my fav coz I can get Auba and Kun and leave them be

                        5. Fuchs Mane Kante
                          • 9 Years
                          7 years, 4 months ago

                          Portugal supporters league Champ Champ.

                          38th in the Scout league.

                          Missed Kaku points in the Knockouts dang it.