Scout Notes

Firmino outshines Mane and struggling Salah as Kane toils for Spurs

Substitute Roberto Firmino (£9.4m) was Liverpool’s match-winner on Tuesday evening as the Reds defeated Paris Saint-Germain at Anfield, but there were blanks for Sadio Mane (£10.0m) and Mohamed Salah (£13.0m) as Jurgen Klopp’s side ran out 3-2 victors.

Christian Eriksen (£9.3m) looked to have handed all three points to Tottenham Hotspur in their early-evening kick-off in Milan, meanwhile, but two late strikes from Inter consigned Spurs to a 2-1 defeat.

We discuss the key Fantasy Premier League talking points from two UEFA Champions League matches contested last night.

Liverpool 3-2 Paris Saint-Germain

  • Goals: Daniel Sturridge (£5.8m), James Milner (£5.6m), Roberto Firmino (£9.4m)
  • Assists: Andrew Robertson (£6.2m), Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.5m), Virgil van Dijk (£6.0m)

Roberto Firmino was on target for the third Liverpool match in a row despite only emerging as a 72nd-minute substitute in their opening Champions League Group C encounter with Paris Saint-Germain on Tuesday evening.

Firmino, who had been a doubt for the match with an eye injury picked up in the win over Spurs in Gameweek 5, came off the bench to rifle home a Salah-esque winner in stoppage time, collecting the ball from Virgil van Dijk (£6.0m) and jinking into the PSG area to fire a shot across visiting goalkeeper Alphonse Areola.

The Brazilian, who is owned by just over 25% of FPL managers at the time of writing, has perhaps been overlooked somewhat in the discussion over Liverpool’s Fantasy assets but has been involved in as many league goals (four) as Mane and Salah have this season.

Firmino surely looks the likeliest of the three to start in Gameweek 6, too, having played just over 20 minutes of the midweek encounter against PSG.

Daniel Sturridge (£5.8m) did his own first-team chances no harm by opening the scoring in what was his first Champions League start in over six years; Andrew Robertson (£6.2m) collected his third Liverpool assist of the season for Sturridge’s goal with another pinpoint delivery from the left flank.

Speaking of Sturridge and Firmino, Klopp said:

Great performance of Daniel. The three in midfield did an outstanding job, but they only can do it when the two wingers in how we play and the No.9 are helping in all these situations to keep the formation compact. It was fantastic. I said to Daniel before the game he is the best shape since I’ve known him, physically, and now he had to use it – and that’s what he did. A super game, a super goal.

And we then had the opportunity to bring on Bobby Firmino. There was no chance yesterday, absolutely no chance today before [training] and then this morning he came in said, ‘I am fine, I can open the eye again!’ so it’s good, it helps! It was good.

Klopp also discussed his decision to bench Firmino:

The day before yesterday it was no chance, yesterday it didn’t look really well and we had only one session, which we used, and that was this morning. Bobby tested a little bit and then he went in and you think it’s the moment when you have to show faith in the squad.

Yes, when you have Bobby Firmino available, you actually always think ‘come on, bring him’, but it was nice to see how Daniel performed tonight and he paid 100 per cent back. That’s so cool for him, for us, such a big, important sign. And how I said, bringing Bobby in after 70 minutes is a nice tool, to be honest, I really like that.

While Robertson was excellent again down the left and largely coped with the threat of Kylian Mbappe, Trent Alexander-Arnold (£5.0m) delivered a noteworthy performance at right-back.

The England full-back shackled Neymar all evening and looked dangerous going forward, whipping in a few teasing deliveries and on one occasion producing a superb dribble into the PSG box. Alexander-Arnold – who has registered three direct attempts on goal from set-plays already this season – also clipped the woodwork with a free-kick late on.

Van Dijk, who had 27 attempts on goal last season without scoring, underscored his goal threat by forcing Areola into a fine save in the first half before collecting an assist for Firmino’s winner.

James Milner (£5.6m) scored from the spot to double Liverpool’s lead after 36 minutes and has now taken both of the Reds’ penalties in competitive matches this season – an indication that he has seen off the challenges of Mane, Salah et al on spot-kick duties.

Salah was worryingly subdued and was chiefly responsible for PSG’s equaliser, giving away possession (not for the first time last night) to Julian Draxler who set Neymar and Mbappe on their way.

The Egyptian did find the back of the net at Anfield, though his tap-in was ruled out for a foul by Sturridge on Areola.

This was Salah’s third match without a goal or assist and a considerable number of FPL managers have acted on the 2017/18 top goalscorer’s mini-slump, with the Egypt international suffering more sales than any other player after the culmination of Gameweek 5.

Mane also drew a blank, though came close to scoring when firing a shot along Areola’s goal-line from an acute angle in the second half.

Liverpool are up against Southampton this weekend, who have conceded more big chances this season than all bar three Premier League teams – this despite the Saints not facing any of the “big six” in their opening five fixtures.

Ditching Salah (or Mane) is a risky move ahead of this fixture, but there is legitimate concern over the talismanic Egyptian’s performances this season, especially given his inflated price tag. That he doesn’t currently boast a landslide margin in our Gameweek 6 captaincy poll says a lot about his current form. A blank – or a rest – in the home match against Mark Hughes’ troops might be the final straw for many, with matches against Manchester City and Chelsea to follow.

Aside from Sturridge for Firmino, the only other change to Liverpool’s line-up from the side that faced Spurs at the weekend was Naby Keita (£7.4m) being replaced by Jordan Henderson (£5.3m).

Keita has yet to register an attacking return this season and this was the second time in three matches that he has been ousted by Henderson in the centre of the park.

Speaking of the ex-Sunderland midfielder’s inclusion, Klopp said:

We played a midfield who played a lot of times last season together, that was the reason for that tonight, it was clear that Hendo would come back and what a brilliant performance of him. Physical-wise, so good, because obviously as we know that the players after the World Cup normally struggle a bit… he is ready now and that’s really important for us.

While Keita was again the makeweight last night, there has to also be concern about Milner and Georginio Wijnaldum‘s (£5.5m) minutes in the coming weeks as the fixture list becomes somewhat congested. The pair, however, were excellent again on Tuesday evening.

Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Alisson; Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Van Dijk, Robertson; Milner, Wijnaldum, Henderson; Salah (Shaqiri 85′), Sturridge (Firmino 72′), Mane (Fabinho 93′)

Internazionale 2-1 Tottenham Hotspur

  • Goal: Christian Eriksen (£9.3m)
  • Assist: Erik Lamela (£6.4m)

Christian Eriksen’s strong form on the continent continues to haunt the 9.0% of FPL managers who own the Danish midfielder, though at least suggests a goal might be around the corner in Spurs’ appealing next four fixtures in the league (bha, hud, CAR, whm).

The General last week bemoaned Eriksen’s brace of goals for his nation during the international break and the Spurs playmaker was at it again last night, finding the net – albeit somewhat fortuitously – with a looping, deflected shot that deceived Inter goalkeeper Samir Handanovic.

Eriksen is without a Premier League goal this season but was Spurs’ main threat last night, forcing Handanovic into a save with a long-distance free-kick and then again testing the Slovenian international’s reflexes just before he notched the game’s opening goal.

The Danish schemer should have had an assist too, providing a sumptuous chipped through-ball to Harry Kane (£12.4) who fluffed his lines in a similar manner to his glorious chance against Croatia in the World Cup semi-final.

Kane’s game is undoubtedly suffering at the moment, as we highlighted in our assessment of his key performance indicators in an article last week.

Speaking of his out-of-sorts striker, Mauricio Pochettino said he was nevertheless content with Kane’s work ethic:

Yes, I am disappointed because he had big chances to score in the first half. I was talking to Javier Zanetti, who is a very good friend of mine, and he said if he scores in the first half, we are talking a different game. We need to build, like the team, his confidence, but I am so happy with the effort and the attitude is massive.

Pochettino had this to say of Kane in his pre-match presser, meanwhile:

Harry is an easy target because it’s easy when he’s not scoring to start to talk about him.

But Harry, after four years at the club, there are a lot of things to say thank you to him. Of course, he needs to improve, but the team needs to improve.

But it’s easy to blame Harry, it’s an easy judgement.

Pochettino had made five changes to his starting XI from the defeat against Liverpool, including rotating three of his back four. Kieran Trippier (£6.0m) and Toby Alderweireld (£5.9m) were left at home in a decision Pochettino called “technical” earlier in the week, so the pair may come back into contention for the trip to Brighton this weekend – though Serge Aurier (£5.9m) had a decent match at right-back up until Inter’s winner. Ben Davies (£5.8m) replaced Danny Rose (£5.9m) at left-back, meanwhile.

Lucas Moura (£7.4m) was dropped to the bench as Son Heung-min (£8.3m) and Erik Lamela (£6.4m) made their first Spurs starts of the season, though that the Brazilian midfielder did more in a 30-minute cameo than his positional rivals (Son especially) managed all game suggests he will return to Pochettino’s starting XI in Gameweek 6.

Moura set Lamela up for an excellent chance upon his introduction and caused havoc down the left flank after replacing Son.

Lamela had started the game centrally behind Kane with Eriksen on the right, though the midfield pair switched roles in the second half.

Pochettino was uncharacteristically animated in his post-match press conference, mounting a defence of his team selection:

Why disrespect the players that aren’t on the pitch? You can blame me and say ‘gaffer, you were so rubbish in your selection of the starting XI.

But please don’t disrespect the players who were playing, because it’s my decision. Kieran Trippier, Toby Alderweireld, we have 25 players. And you believe that and sometimes you behave like you ask me with your question, that you can play only 11 and the other 13 or 14 players are rubbish, are s**t.

It’s so easy, it’s so easy I don’t know. Sorry, but I am so disappointed because I am a person that respect you a lot and the players. When my decision is to play with XI, you must respect my decision because I am the manager. You cannot disrespect.

Pochettino also mitigated Spurs’ early-season form, with the Lilywhites currently sitting in sixth position after losing their last two league matches:

I told you that the circumstances of the pre-season weren’t the best. Of course, we are suffering a little bit. It’s not an excuse. It’s only the reality. But I think of course we need to improve a lot. We need to build our positive period again and we need to work hard.

Those comments don’t instil much faith in Spurs’ players as go-to FPL options in the coming month, despite the north London club sitting top of our Season Ticker for the next four Gameweeks.

Spurs XI (4-2-3-1):  Vorm; Aurier, Sanchez, Vertonghen, Davies; Dier, Dembele; Eriksen, Lamela (Winks 72′), Son (Moura 64′); Kane (Rose 89′)

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1,194 Comments Post a Comment
  1. La Roja
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 7 months ago

    Interesting fact;

    Firmino is first player to score with;

    - Both eyes
    - one eye
    - no eyes

    1. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      But can he do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke?

      1. DeathoftheParty
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        Can anyone? Winter must have been ok last year...

    2. Marvin Moon
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      Just on that there is an NFL player at the moment who only has one hand. Pretty impressive.

      1. La Roja
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        What’s his name?

        1. Marvin Moon
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 7 months ago

          Shaquem Griffin. Him and his twin brother Shaquill both play for Seattle.

    3. Boss Hogg
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      No eyes?

      1. Marvin Moon
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        Daley Blind?

      2. La Roja
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        You’ve been missing out on Firmino’s signature no look goals? Shame...

        1. Boss Hogg
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 7 months ago

          I don't necessarily look at my phone when I'm typing.
          I've still got eyes though.

          1. La Roja
            • 12 Years
            5 years, 7 months ago

            😀

  2. barcaa7
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 7 months ago

    Arnautovic to Mitro for -4 hit?

    1. Pooodle
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      Wait for news first - definitely not if Arnie is fit

    2. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      If Arnie is fit then no way

    3. barcaa7
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      thanks

  3. KingOllie
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 7 months ago

    Maddison is the new Tadic.

    Convince me otherwise

    1. Pooodle
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      Tadic had good stats and no returns. Maddison has bad stats and good returns.

      1. Oven Glover
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        Job done.

      2. DeathoftheParty
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        Hello Nail, welcome to head...

      3. KingOllie
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        Ok you win!

      4. Az
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        love this answer.

        1. Pooodle
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 7 months ago

          Reckon he's a better option than Richarlison at the minute Az?

      5. Eden Wizard
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        I caught the hauls on WC 😎

      6. #FPLBhuna
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        rip Kinggollie

    2. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      Not really. Tadic had stats, Maddison has been lucky. But great fixtures coming and Vardy back.

    3. ShaunGoater123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      I owned Tadic for his monster haul a few years back, one of them from Maddison would be very much appreciated!

  4. _figu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 7 months ago

    Rarely post these but now in a bit of a pickle and not sure what to do here. Have 1 FT left. Used my first to do Mkhi -> Fraser so 1.7 mil ITB. I could do Kante to Maddison/Richarlison. And the week after that Pedro to one of the other. But no Hazard is a worry. Thoughts?

    Hennessey
    Alonso Robbo Mendy* AWB
    Salah Mane Fraser Pedro*
    Aguero Mitrovic

    Ryan Kante Bennett Ings

    1. Marvin Moon
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      Decent enough team, saving your transfer might be your best move.

      1. _figu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        Hmmm that's an option for sure. If Mendy is out short term think I would like to have one of Maddison/Richarlison instead of Kante for the long term.

    2. DeathoftheParty
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      Save Mendy, Pedro and Kante the pressing issue.

      1. _figu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah Mendy is not leaving. But if he's out think I can't save my transfer.

    3. Jam0sh
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      Depending on injury situation you could even save FT. Nevertheless I'd probably ditch Pedro before Kante. Mane -> Hazard for free would also be tempting if there wasn't other areas to fix.

      1. _figu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah you're right. If Mendy is fit to play this weekend saving is a good option. Pedro is leaving now or the week after this one. Mane to Hazard might be my next weeks transfer so getting one of Maddison/Richarlison in this week would help with that plan as well.

    4. Pooodle
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      Kante to Maddison looks good. Currently sounds like Mendy is more likely to miss out than play this weekend

      1. _figu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        It does. But if I want Hazard in for Mane it has to be Pedro out. Mendy is staying in my team even if he's out couple weeks.

        1. Pooodle
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 7 months ago

          Yup agreed on Mendy - just meant that you can expect your 1st sub to need to appear this week for you

          1. _figu
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 7 months ago

            Exactly. That's why I don't think I can afford to save. Given I have 3 Chelsea players, taking Pedro out for Richarlison/Maddison would give room for Hazard the week after. If I transfer Kante out, I would have to drop Salah for Hazard and not sure I want to do that.

    5. Jimmy Floyd
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      I’ve the same team but diff goalie and subs and thinking if Pedro plays tomorrow and Mendy is ruled out I’m going to go Pedro to Richarlison

      1. _figu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        Cool, that is what I am planning to do with current info.

  5. Ten Season Wonder
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 7 months ago

    How is this WC team looking please guys and girls?

    Ryan - Button
    Alonso - Mendy - Doherty - Bennett - AWB
    Salah - Mane - Haz - Fraser - Hojbjerg
    Kun - King - Ings

    * I know Ings is ineligible, but i am happy to bench him this GW.

    1. BooYaKasha
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      Mitro instead of King

      1. Ten Season Wonder
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        Would rather Mitro but not enough funds unfortunately.

        1. BooYaKasha
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 7 months ago

          Lose Mane

          1. Ten Season Wonder
            • 10 Years
            5 years, 7 months ago

            Not this GW. Unless he is rested.

            Where's Anfield Express when you need them

    2. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      If I was on a WC now, then I definitely won’t have salah.

      1. Astronautovic
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        Why not?

        1. La Roja
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 7 months ago

          Because he is not worth 13m

          1. Ten Season Wonder
            • 10 Years
            5 years, 7 months ago

            Be funny when he bangs a hatty and everyone is scrambling to get him back in...

          2. Astronautovic
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 7 months ago

            Yes that's true ff there wouldn't be the captain option

            1. Astronautovic
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 7 months ago

              If*

    3. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      Very good. Not sure I would double Bournemouth but given form and fixtures it's not a bad option.

      1. _figu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah Mitro instead of King

    4. Ten Season Wonder
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      Has King since day and suffered a double drop from him. Mitro rose to 6.8 now there's a 0.5 price swing

  6. The Mighty Whites
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 7 months ago

    1FT, 0.9 ITB:

    Ederson, Hamer

    Robertson, Mendy, PvA, AWB, Cedric

    Salah, Mane, Walcott, Maddison, Stephens

    Aguero, Zaha, Ings

  7. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 7 months ago

    Might do Mkhitaryan to Milner for a punt. 😎

    1. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      But you won’t

      1. Eden Wizard
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        Shots fired

        BF

    2. Four Hit Wonder
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      It's not really a punt, it's common sense.

      1. La Roja
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        Common sense? How?

        1. Klein
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 7 months ago

          On pen and corners maybe

        2. Eden Wizard
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 7 months ago

          Looks a man reborn, returning....why not?

    3. Firminooooo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      Thinking about Milner myself.

  8. Boss Hogg
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 7 months ago

    Would you rather buy Vardy or Firmino this week?

    1. Pooodle
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      Firmino this week, Vardy longer term

    2. jon.terry.tfh
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      Vardy. No brainer

    3. Pinturicchio10
        5 years, 7 months ago

        Vardy

    4. jon.terry.tfh
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 7 months ago

      Has a 4.0 defender and Bennett on the bench in defence with a starting lineup of alonso mendy and wan B for this game week. Should I take a hit to upgrade my 4.0 to a decent playing defender in case of a Mendy no show, or should I just save the 4 pts and play Bennett away to manutd if needed to?
      If I'm swapping who should I go for?budget is 6.0m. Trippier is a good shout but spurs defence is in shambles and vorm is a terrible goalkeeper. Should I do laporte for a man City double up?

      1. Pinturicchio10
          5 years, 7 months ago

          Seems counter productive to lose points for a bench player. Leave it.

      2. seewhyaxe
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 7 months ago

        Lost value on Walcott doing that Richarlison -> Walcott trade few gws.

        Why didn't I learn my lesson from previous season.

        Now I'm priced out of doing Dilva + Walcott for Silva + Fraser, jeez.

        1. MTPockets
            5 years, 7 months ago

            Only Captain Hindsight predicted the immediate injury.

        2. Rash
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 7 months ago

          Which team do you prefer and with a reason if possible please?

          Foster fab
          ROBBO mendy Alonso tomkins AWB
          Hazard Mané RICHARLISON D SILVA Fraser
          Aguero Wilson ings

          Foster fab
          Mendy Alonso AWB tomkins BENNETT
          SALAH Mané hazard Fraser STEPHENS
          aguero Wilson ings

          1. MTPockets
              5 years, 7 months ago

              Right now the one with Salah, may change my mind after the weekend.

            • Klein
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 7 months ago

              I like A but downgrade tomkins? Wan b should be enough for crp

          2. C'mon the Fylde
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 7 months ago

            Gut instinct tells me Mane will be rotated this week.

            Who would you ship him for?
            1. D.Silva
            2.Richarlison
            3. Other

            1. C'mon the Fylde
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 7 months ago

              I already have Salah btw

            2. Pooodle
              • 14 Years
              5 years, 7 months ago

              I'm worried too but think you've probably got to take the risk keeping him this week considering how good their fixture is.

          3. patshaw
            • 12 Years
            5 years, 7 months ago

            On WC here...

            Should I go with Trippier or Robertson?

            I want Robbo on the long term, but for the next couple of weeks Trippier seems better despite their current form.

            1. Mr.K
              • 10 Years
              5 years, 7 months ago

              I'd go with Robertson.

          4. barryfinks
            • 5 Years
            5 years, 7 months ago

            Played WC this week. Could I get some opinions please?

            HENNESSEY

            AWB MENDY ALONSO

            MANE RICHARLISON HAZARD MADDISON

            ZAHA AGUERO MITROVIC

            Bench: Hart Fraser Holebas Bennett

            I also toyed with:

            Maddison -> Holebas
            Zaha -> Firmino

            Thoughts?!

            1. barryfinks
              • 5 Years
              5 years, 7 months ago

              Sorry, I meant Maddison -> Holjberg

            2. Klein
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 7 months ago

              Love it... Really

              1. barryfinks
                • 5 Years
                5 years, 7 months ago

                Would you change anything / change around the subs / who's starting?

                1. Gabistuta
                  • 5 Years
                  5 years, 7 months ago

                  Fraser start over Rich

          5. Mr.K
            • 10 Years
            5 years, 7 months ago

            Which two should I start this week?
            A) Holebas
            B) Wan-Bissaka
            C) Richarlison

            1. Am sorry to say again it�…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              5 years, 7 months ago

              I have the same dilemma.

              Currently going with Holebas and Richarlison.

            2. stuarto
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              5 years, 7 months ago

              B & C

            3. Pinturicchio10
                5 years, 7 months ago

                Holebas and Wan-Bissaka

              • Mr.K
                • 10 Years
                5 years, 7 months ago

                Inconveniently varying opinions but thanks for your thoughts!

              • La Roja
                • 12 Years
                5 years, 7 months ago

                Bc

            4. applebonkers
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              5 years, 7 months ago

              few people throwing not getting points off their bench in the roughs last gw. nothing unlucky about that imo! if you want/expect those points don't bench them

              1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
                • 14 Years
                5 years, 7 months ago

                This ^^

                " oh poor me, I didn't get rewarded for poor planning " doesn't make sence does it

              2. Marvin Moon
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 7 months ago

                Better to have points on the bench when you don't need them than no points on the bench when you do.

              3. La Roja
                • 12 Years
                5 years, 7 months ago

                If AWB was 5m, most wouldn’t bench the fella, including me

              4. Monkey Hanger
                • 10 Years
                5 years, 7 months ago

                Would be a better game imo, if you didn't get any pts off the bench. But given the fact you do, crying when you mess up the benching order, is laughable.

              5. Deulofail
                • 8 Years
                5 years, 7 months ago

                I think it's more about being blocked by 1-pointers, which includes the fact that someone didn't start the game, nor have an impact, as part of the roughness. Also the sub player may have overachieved expectations, which can feel rough, especially if other managers planned no better than you (or worse) and DID get those points off the bench, or from the XI because they ran out of transfers or something. Nothing wrong with including it in the rough in many contexts imo. People just don't write essays to justify what they include in their roughs, and understandably so. (Sometimes I do though haha)

                1. WesMantooth
                  • 13 Years
                  5 years, 7 months ago

                  I Get your point, but this week sees yo many complaining about Mkhi stopping awb-points. If you rated mkhi's chances of starting low enough to bench him, you should also have put him behind a defender whos best for baps at a club with a fix that "offers" 40% likelyhood of a Clean

                  1. Deulofail
                    • 8 Years
                    5 years, 7 months ago

                    Whether Mkhi had a low or high chance of starting, the fact that he didn't start is rough. If he started, it would be smooth. If he had a low chance of starting, yet still started, it would be smoother still.

                    Smooth vs rough depends on whether he starts or not. The degree to which they are smooth or rough depends on how much you rate their chances of starting.

                    So I'm not going to judge someone for including Mkhi benching as a rough, because it's not a smooth for sure. I'd only judge someone going overboard with their whinging, although I haven't really noticed that if I'm honest.

                    1. WesMantooth
                      • 13 Years
                      5 years, 7 months ago

                      Dont really know if I agree. Really depends what you want to put in to the two terms "rough" and "smooth". The way youre picturing it makes it seem like everything is either a rough or a smooth. For me, "playing badly", which is what I think of those having mk ahead of Wan, is not a rough. Its just "complaining" about bad decisions.

            5. MMN
              • 10 Years
              5 years, 7 months ago

              2 FT & 0m ITB, thoughts on best way to upgrade one of the subs without selling Salah? Think it's very probable that my bench will come into play this week.

              De Gea
              Alonso Robertson AWB Mendy
              Mane Salah Walcott Bilva
              Aguero Zaha
              Hamer Kamara Stephens Peltier

            6. Bat Man
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 7 months ago

              If Aguero gets big minutes tonight can see some panic ensue. Must be worth considering selling him if he won’t play this weekend and in gw8 he has Liverpool at Anfield

              1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
                • 14 Years
                5 years, 7 months ago

                Yer do it

                Good luck

              2. stat
                  5 years, 7 months ago

                  We probably won't know if he'll play against Cardiff (unless someone like MCFCBaller leaks it) so it's too big of a risk to take to get rid of Aguero before such a good fixture. But if he does get rotated significantly in the next few GWs I can see a mass exodus to Lukaku, or possibly Lacazette if he keeps starting.

                • Andy'81
                  • 6 Years
                  5 years, 7 months ago

                  I've had a .4 price rise from him so I'm not gonna sell him because he might get rotated, makes zero sense.

                • MTPockets
                    5 years, 7 months ago

                    We're now in rotation season. I don't think he's one of the bigger risks, but if that would be panic-worthy then precludes a lot a picks.

                    1. Bat Man
                      • 6 Years
                      5 years, 7 months ago

                      Good point. I am inclined to spend transfers elsewhere, just wondering what people’s thoughts are here

                  • jtreble
                    • 7 Years
                    5 years, 7 months ago

                    I’m holding on to Aguero regardless of the minutes he plays today.

                • hjalmarekdal
                  • 7 Years
                  5 years, 7 months ago

                  On WC, final decision to be made here...:

                  3-5-2
                  Hennessey _____
                  Alonso Mendy _____ Bennett AWB
                  Salah Hazard Dilva Richarlison Fraser
                  _____ Mitrovic Quaner

                  A) Lukaku Doherty 4.0GK, but 0.1 short to do this, so hope Salah drops to 12.9 before deadline. Otherwise I'm not sure how to solve it.
                  B) Lacazette TAA Ryan +0.4

                  1. La Roja
                    • 12 Years
                    5 years, 7 months ago

                    A

                • Kodap
                  • 6 Years
                  5 years, 7 months ago

                  Who would you captain this week?

                  Hazard
                  Salah
                  Aguero

                  ?

                  1. jtreble
                    • 7 Years
                    5 years, 7 months ago

                    Wait.

                  2. Miguel Sanchez
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 7 Years
                    5 years, 7 months ago

                    Salah - but this may be Custer's last stand

                  3. Bumbaclot
                    • 13 Years
                    5 years, 7 months ago

                    I will proabably go salah and give him one last chance. If he blanks ill get hazard in

                  4. Pinturicchio10
                      5 years, 7 months ago

                      Aguero

                  5. Four Hit Wonder
                    • 6 Years
                    5 years, 7 months ago

                    I'm playing 442 with Alonso, Mendy, Shaw and TAA.

                    Should I continue or should I go with 3 defenders, allowing me to play 352 and 343?

                    The question is who scores more, a 5.0m defender or a 5.5m midfielder such as Milner or Fraser.

                    1. MTPockets
                        5 years, 7 months ago

                        There's no correct answer to that - just opinion. I almost never play 4 defenders out of choice, but many do.

                      • wulfrunian
                        • 7 Years
                        5 years, 7 months ago

                        TAA on 3 yellows+difficult fixtures.

                        1. Four Hit Wonder
                          • 6 Years
                          5 years, 7 months ago

                          Right. Didn't do anything offensively, I'll ship him at the earliest opportunity.

                          1. wulfrunian
                            • 7 Years
                            5 years, 7 months ago

                            I don't say you should sell him.Agree with Mtpockets-just opinion.

                      • Astronautovic
                        • 8 Years
                        5 years, 7 months ago

                        Keep him in my opinion

                      • Bullet Eder
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        5 years, 7 months ago

                        Fraser will score buckets more than a 5.0 defender. Not even a fair comparison.

                    2. Bialystrzelec
                      • 7 Years
                      5 years, 7 months ago

                      Any live for Eriksen? He seems to be getting pace and double go IT with favorable fixtures bringing him during WC is sound. I planned to go Son, but his form os still not there yet.

                      1. Bat Man
                        • 6 Years
                        5 years, 7 months ago

                        Too many options at close price point that look like having a higher ceiling currently

                    3. Bumbaclot
                      • 13 Years
                      5 years, 7 months ago

                      Hi guys would you WC this team or just use the one free sub?

                      Ederson/Hamer
                      Robertson/Mendy/Docherty/AWB/Kabasele
                      Salah/Mane/Micky/Walcott/Cairney
                      Aguero/Zaha/Ings

                      Thanks!

                      1. La Roja
                        • 12 Years
                        5 years, 7 months ago

                        Great team

                        Sell Mkhi

                        1. Bumbaclot
                          • 13 Years
                          5 years, 7 months ago

                          Thanks La Roja who do you think seel him for? Maddison maybe?

                          1. Bialystrzelec
                            • 7 Years
                            5 years, 7 months ago

                            To me Mkhitaryan to Fraser and Walcott to Richarlison would be enough. Depending on your FT.
                            Anyway, upcoming week doesn't look good, with Miki, Mendy, Cairney and Ings not playing or potentially not playing.

                            1. Bumbaclot
                              • 13 Years
                              5 years, 7 months ago

                              Thats what i was thinking. Micky needs to go in order for me to potentially have even 11 players on the pitch unfortunately

                      2. stuarto
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        5 years, 7 months ago

                        Don’t WC yet, but midfield needs to lose Mik, and Wally; and need to choose one of Salah/ Mane. I sold Salah 2 weeks ago and moved up overall. Look to get in Fraser (from and fixtures), Richarlison, Hazard.

                    4. lifes a pitch
                      • 10 Years
                      5 years, 7 months ago

                      Is it time to get rid of Arnautovic ?

                      1. La Roja
                        • 12 Years
                        5 years, 7 months ago

                        I’m thinking buy him after Chelsea game

                      2. _figu
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 6 Years
                        5 years, 7 months ago

                        If you have no pressing issues, I'd get Mitrovic

                      3. Bumbaclot
                        • 13 Years
                        5 years, 7 months ago

                        Wait and see if hes fit. If hes fit then keep

                      4. MTPockets
                          5 years, 7 months ago

                          Depends on injury, and if it's recurrence of previous and therefore perhaps ongoing issue.

                          1. lifes a pitch
                            • 10 Years
                            5 years, 7 months ago

                            Yeh that and fixtures dont look great

                        • Astronautovic
                          • 8 Years
                          5 years, 7 months ago

                          I wouldn't
                          Fixtures turn soon

                        • Bat Man
                          • 6 Years
                          5 years, 7 months ago

                          Not at all. If you have keep provided that he’s fit

                        • KingOllie
                          • 8 Years
                          5 years, 7 months ago

                          I was set on doing so, but look at his fixtures. In terms of attacking prospects they arent actually that bad.

                          Yes west ham will probably lost, but i think he can still get a few goals. Plus you will want him back in 4 weeks too, so your replacement needs to score 8 points more (counting FTs as worth 4 points each)

                      5. FER FUSCH AKE
                        • 7 Years
                        5 years, 7 months ago

                        manual manipulation of salah's FPL stats data surely. Some bloke just can't stomach a 0.1 price drop.

                        1. MTPockets
                            5 years, 7 months ago

                            wildcards. Same thing in reverse with Hazard's + recalcs

                          • Baines on Toast...
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 13 Years
                            5 years, 7 months ago

                            I imagine most of the sales have been WCs this week. Could still see a 0.1 drop though.

                        2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
                          • 9 Years
                          5 years, 7 months ago

                          Just to give you a little bit of a contexts on the situation.
                          I'm in a very good situation right now, 8k or and just did a WC last week. Scored 85 points but, i'm gonna do a -8 hit this week. It's just a gut feeling.

                          Lukaku > Lacazette
                          D.Silva > Maddison
                          Ward > Pereyra

                          I know it's a crazy thing to do but I just feel those moves will bring me more points, even with the hits.

                          1. Baines on Toast...
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 13 Years
                            5 years, 7 months ago

                            I hope you've enjoyed your time in the top 10K.

                            1. Bat Man
                              • 6 Years
                              5 years, 7 months ago

                              This

                            2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
                              • 9 Years
                              5 years, 7 months ago

                              Hahaha, it's not about that. It's about the thrill you getting it right.

                              1. Amsterhammer
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 8 Years
                                5 years, 7 months ago

                                Normally I like it when people say they are doing a decision for fun. It is a game after all. But Lukaku to Laka and Silva to Maddy are really bad moves in my opinion. Please don't do it.

                          2. Bat Man
                            • 6 Years
                            5 years, 7 months ago

                            Good luck

                          3. Pras (FPL)
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 12 Years
                            5 years, 7 months ago

                            Yes it is crazy.. Most people are getting Dilva and Lukakau on WC

                            But you're doing well so go with your gut...

                            1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
                              • 9 Years
                              5 years, 7 months ago

                              I know, but also it's about predicting the next haul's.

                          4. MTPockets
                              5 years, 7 months ago

                              Maybe. There's only 7 pts between 5k and 10k rank

                              1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
                                • 9 Years
                                5 years, 7 months ago

                                So you are backing me up? My man!

                            • The 12th Man
                              • 10 Years
                              5 years, 7 months ago

                              Lukaku and Dilva are 2 on my watchlist. Can’t believe you would want to make these moves.

                              1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
                                • 9 Years
                                5 years, 7 months ago

                                Just looking at the fixtures, I think those 3 are gonna bring me more points. It's that simple. I'm not saying Lukaku & Silva are bad picks, I just feel these guys are gonna bring more points.

                                1. The 12th Man
                                  • 10 Years
                                  5 years, 7 months ago

                                  If you think they will get more points. Go for it. The hit is excessive imo

                            • Pinturicchio10
                                5 years, 7 months ago

                                Awful moves but do as you see fit. One less team up there to worry about so 😉

                              • ResultatFar
                                • 5 Years
                                5 years, 7 months ago

                                DO IT! Would love to get a free rank up, everything counts

                              • Az
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • Has Moderation Rights
                                • 14 Years
                                5 years, 7 months ago

                                lol what?
                                Lukaku and Silva are performing well and have great fixtures. Lacazette still a rotation risk and Maddison (as much as I love him) isn't setting the world on fire.
                                Absolutely crazy moves.

                            • FER FUSCH AKE
                              • 7 Years
                              5 years, 7 months ago

                              total captain score 76
                              highest possible captain score 150

                              74 pts lost due to not captiaining my highest scoring player each gameweek.

                              you can check yours on here

                              https://www.gargatron.com/

                              1. MTPockets
                                  5 years, 7 months ago

                                  76 / 134

                                • Deulofail
                                  • 8 Years
                                  5 years, 7 months ago

                                  68 / 138 🙁

                                  1. Deulofail
                                    • 8 Years
                                    5 years, 7 months ago

                                    Looks like I'm going to have 6 different captains from 6 gameweeks.

                                    Mané 32 points
                                    Mendy 16 points
                                    Aubameyang 4 points
                                    Agüero 12 points
                                    Alonso 4 points
                                    Hazard ? points

                                • stat
                                    5 years, 7 months ago

                                    76 / 164

                                  • The 12th Man
                                    • 10 Years
                                    5 years, 7 months ago

                                    76/142

                                  • Pinturicchio10
                                      5 years, 7 months ago

                                      98/148

                                      Not bad.

                                      1. badgerboy
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 8 Years
                                        5 years, 7 months ago

                                        3x Aguero + 2x Salah? 98/144 here.

                                        1. Pinturicchio10
                                            5 years, 7 months ago

                                            Yeah, exactly that.

                                      2. jtreble
                                        • 7 Years
                                        5 years, 7 months ago

                                        Lost 76 points on captaincy. Margin for improvement. :).

                                      3. fclackless [Brazil Nuts]
                                        • 5 Years
                                        5 years, 7 months ago

                                        82 lost ... better than usual for me

                                      4. Dr. Mantis Toboggan
                                        • 7 Years
                                        5 years, 7 months ago

                                        108/152 not the worst. Aguero over Haz last week the only really regrettable call

                                      5. caldracula
                                        • 8 Years
                                        5 years, 7 months ago

                                        40/152

                                    • FleckyT
                                      • 6 Years
                                      5 years, 7 months ago

                                      Best pair?
                                      A) Fraser/ Hazard
                                      B) Dsilva/ Rich

                                      1. Bumbaclot
                                        • 13 Years
                                        5 years, 7 months ago

                                        A by a mile

                                      2. stuarto
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 14 Years
                                        5 years, 7 months ago

                                        A for sure

                                      3. FleckyT
                                        • 6 Years
                                        5 years, 7 months ago

                                        Cheers thought the same

                                    • Pras (FPL)
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 12 Years
                                      5 years, 7 months ago

                                      Why did Emerson Palmier not travel to EL game? Injury or rest? If latter Alonso could be rotation risk vs West Ham

                                      1. Pras (FPL)
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 12 Years
                                        5 years, 7 months ago

                                        Palmieri*

                                      2. Rotation's Alter Ego
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • Has Moderation Rights
                                        • 12 Years
                                        5 years, 7 months ago

                                        He's ill.

                                        I got a bit nervous when I saw that as well!

                                        1. Pras (FPL)
                                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                          • 12 Years
                                          5 years, 7 months ago

                                          Ahh ok then! Take lots of rest Emerson.. lots and lots of rest..

                                          1. Rotation's Alter Ego
                                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                            • Has Moderation Rights
                                            • 12 Years
                                            5 years, 7 months ago

                                            I should point out I don't have any quotes on that yet, which worries me a little.

                                            However, he's flagged up on FPL as ill.

                                    • aleksios
                                      • 8 Years
                                      5 years, 7 months ago

                                      Hi all.Gtg here? Decent bench cover if Mendy wont start i think..

                                      --Foster
                                      --Mendy-Alonso-Robbo
                                      --Salah(c)--Frazer--Maddison--B.Silva
                                      --Kun--Zaha--King
                                      ----Patricio---Schlupp--WB--Cairney.

                                      2.1 itb to do Cairney to Richa next week.

                                      Thanks!!