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Dugout Discussion April 20

Redmond starts but Valery missing for Southampton

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Nathan Redmond (£5.4m) has been handed another start in the central attacking midfield role in which he thrived in Double Gameweek 34.

Having played as a makeshift centre-forward for long spells this season, the former Norwich man was paired with Josh Sims (£4.4m) last time out and got a brace.

Ralph Hasenhüttl has gone with the same system in attack, handing another start to striker Danny Ings (£5.4m) too.

However, there was disappointment for those Fantasy managers who had invested in Southampton defender Yan Valery (£4.1m) with this Double Gameweek in mind.

After coming off with cramp in Double Gameweek 34 and overcoming that this week, he ends up missing the game through illness.

Jannik Vestergaard (£4.6m) is also absent making for a back-three of Maya Yoshida (£4.1m), Jan Bednarek (£4.0m) and Jack Stephens (£4.2m).

In central midfield there are starts for budget midfielders Oriol Romeu (£4.2m) and Pierre-Emile Højbjerg (£4.4m), who will be in a handful of Bench Boost squads.

Meanwhile, Newcastle’s relevance to the Fantasy Premier League scene continues to dwindle.

Salomón Rondón (£5.9m) remains the most popular Magpie in the game but his ownership has fallen again, now to just 6.5% overall.

Newcastle XI: Dubravka; Schar, Lascelles, Dummett; Manquillo, Ki, Hayden, Ritchie; Almiron, Perez; Rondon

Southampton XI: Gunn; Bednarek, Yoshida, Stephens; Ward-Prowse, Oriol Romeu, Højbjerg, Bertrand; Sims, Redmond; Ings.

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  1. UshFPL
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Perez ended last season very well too didn't he?

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  2. Not again Shirley
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Is Almiron any good (fantasy wise or actual football)?

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    1. EMBOLOFAN
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      no and no

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    2. Bada Bing
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      He looks a bit lightweight for EPL, physically and otherwise.

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  3. The Senate
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Bottomed -
    any thoughts on this potential move for next week? (obviously not doing this so early)
    0.5ITB, 1FT

    Ryan (Foster)
    Trippier TAA Valery
    Mane(C) KDB* Eriksen Son Deulofeu
    Rashford Aguero
    (Jimi Doherty Cathcart)

    KDB, Doherty to Robertson, Milivojevic (max8.2 mid) (-4)
    will mean benching Deulofeu...

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    1. twoplustwo
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      There’s a game on mate

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      1. The Senate
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 11 hours ago

        sorry to disturb you!

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      2. @FPLDIARYFPL
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 11 hours ago

        Haha

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  4. Bada Bing
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Lol @ me for thinking that Valery, jwp and ings would be good choices for this dgw.

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    1. the Penman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      JWP’s booking is particularly galling.

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    2. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      But cheap and still more decent fixtures.

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  5. El-Kloppico
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    No Valery no Party

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    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      No loss of points either!

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  6. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Ryan to Foster -4
    Vardy to Jimi -4
    Benched Duffy, started Bednarek

    😎

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    1. The Senate
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      oof

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    2. Buck The Trent
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      Ouch

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      1. Saint Luke
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 11 hours ago

        This :O

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    3. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      You're in the roughs in the scoutcast

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  7. Plymouth
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Feels
    So
    Good
    Getting
    Points from Ryan, Duffy and Dunk

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      I know, couldn't be arsed shifting them..... Hopefully most got rid

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    2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      Points from Dunk so I'm getting drunk

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  8. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    This is what you get not playing valery

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  9. EMBOLOFAN
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    refuse to watch this game because almiron is so horrible to look at

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    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      You can focus on Nuno's son instead

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      1. EMBOLOFAN
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 11 hours ago

        i cant risk it

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    2. Lord.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      Not as horrible as JWP trying to play as a wing-back.

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  10. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Triple captain Fraser, Wilson or King next GW?

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    1. The Senate
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      I assume there's a reason you don't want to give it to a pool player? if so then Wilson

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      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 11 hours ago

        Pool players not up against Soton

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      2. FC Hakkebøf
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 11 hours ago

        He is just joking..

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  11. FER FUSCH AKE
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Dunk to Masina -4 still hurts. I own foster too.

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    1. Rash
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      Duffy to yoshi here

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      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 11 hours ago

        I did both 🙁

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        1. Rash
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 11 hours ago

          Ouch! People told me to stick but I didn't listen.. on the plus side it generates funds for bringing in Salah this week coming.

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    2. Schafsalat
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      Yep, same here. KDB (c) out hurts me almost more though...

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    3. Sandy Ravage
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      Rondon > Llorente (face palm). Happy with 3 points for Rafa's Toon Army though

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    4. clodhopper
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      Was getting rid but thought feck it and didnt bother doing the minus glad i kept 3 brighton defenders things not going well lately but this has cheered me up

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  12. the Penman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    At this rate I’m not going to lose out by having Valery in my bench boost not playing...

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  13. YEAH PITCH!
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Southampton going to get a mouthful during the half time. Atrocious.

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  14. Rash
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Saints to give a Brighton esq dgw horror show?

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  15. TAT
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Need a Bednarek G, Højbjerg A.

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  16. Zen_Master
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Dodged a bullet with Valery. Offer your sacrifices to the Fantasy gods! Lol

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    1. LǝgleSs e|even
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      Same story every gw..

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  17. Sim Simma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Valery earning more points than the whole SOT defence combined

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    1. clodhopper
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      This

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  18. LǝgleSs e|even
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Anyoze Perez doing what lukaku and firmino supposed to be doing for a few gws now. I'm deal with all these Southampton players.

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    1. LǝgleSs e|even
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      *Dead

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  19. HollywoodXI
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    FPL Chips. I’ve spent some time analysing my ML rivals and how they’ve played them this season. Those peeps who BB early, particularly in GW1, far outscored anyone else (I accept this week isn’t over yet). Those players playing their second WC in January have by far outscored those of us playing it for the DGW’s. Those who used their TC early (Aguero in particular) have also fared better than those of us saving it till late.

    Is this season just an outlier? Previous seasons rewarded planning and patience but this season has been quite different. Rotation seems worse this year and perhaps is playing a part in this change? Or perhaps it’s just becoming harder to predict points?

    I think it might be time for a rethink from the conventional usage of chips. Look how Mark bucked the trend by playing all
    season with three budget strikers, bucking the usual practice and it proved an excellent strategy for him. I’m seriously considering using my BB in GW1 next season as a starter for ten. I’ll definitely play both WC’s earlier to maximise team value and jump on bandwagons more quickly next season. The game feels like it has fundamentally changed and it will change again next season with the introduction of VAR. The best players stay ahead of the curve right?

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    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      Agreed.
      I'll also play BB gw1. This is complete waste of second WC.

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      The guy leading FPL

      04 Dec 22:16 Wildcard Played GW16
      02 Feb 09:40 Triple Captain Played GW25
      18 Mar 07:44 Free Hit Played GW32
      11 Apr 22:40 Wildcard Played GW34
      20 Apr 04:51 Bench Boost Played GW35

      Name Times Played Total Points Avg Points
      Agüero 11 217 19.7
      Kane 5 60 12

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      1. svasei - Up (?) the Rovers
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 11 hours ago

        I'm going to check his team from the start because that is a late WC. Late WC doesn't mean that is the best timing, but could just indicate he had the right players from the start of.

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      2. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 hours ago

        True but look more closely at the top 10. Only four of them played the conventional strategy. One guy WC in GW7. Most TC in GW25. Several played their second WC in January / February.

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 10 hours ago

          TC in GW25 is the reason most are in the top 10.
          Most WC'ed in GW34, not the early January WC.
          9 are BB this week.

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          1. HollywoodXI
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 10 hours ago

            But they appear to have utilised different strategies in terms of chips no?

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    3. EMBOLOFAN
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      correlation =/= causation
      strongest arguments were for template chip strategy, sometimes things just dont work out

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      1. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 hours ago

        Agreed and I’m certainly not binning off the traditional strategy. My point is that there is an alternative view and that this season feels like those players who chose to ignore the standard approach and do things differently have done very well.

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    4. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      I agree the advantage playing the bench boost gameweek 1 is that the main players are likely to start.
      However the disadvantage to that is that in game-week there are always some odd results.
      As regards playing the game differently - this site - forum etc basically tells you the way the hive is thinking.
      It is up to you how you move away from the hive group think consensus when you think they are wrong.

      Example: gw34 I went for sigurdsson instead of sterling/kdb.
      I thought sterling would be rested and sigurdsson had a better chance of score v fulham
      It did not work for me.

      But this gw35 I stuck with vardy and the double city defence paid off. Most do not have double city defence and went for attack instead.
      I also got rid of duffy for a hit and got Boly.
      But hopefully having both salah and mane will pay off and leave me in good shape for the gameweek.

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      1. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 hours ago

        Agreed that it’s important to hold firm to your own views. Group think can be both helpful and dangerous. It’s about filtering out the rubbish!

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        1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 10 hours ago

          Easier said than done though as you have to chose the correct time to stick to your own views or decide to change your plan.
          That is what the consistent managers are good at unlike me who is all over the place most of the time.

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    5. gooberman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      I will adopt the same strategy again next season. Just been unlucky this season with the double gameweeks and trolling players/teams. The plan for blank weeks, WC then BB was a sound strategy in theory. It just hasn't produced as many points as we would have hoped due to a number of factors. I would make the same decisions again though.

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      1. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 hours ago

        I understand that strategy. I’m not condoning it, far from it, but I’m suggesting that perhaps there’s another way.

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    6. Indpush
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      VAR going to bring more pens or fewer?

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      1. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 hours ago

        Difficult to call.

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        1. Indpush
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 10 hours ago

          How you going to stay ahead of the curve on that one if you don't know? 🙂

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          1. HollywoodXI
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 10 hours ago

            I think that’s a situation where you react to what you see in pre season and the first few games. I think it will take time for refs, players etc to get used to VAR.

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      2. svasei - Up (?) the Rovers
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 hours ago

        More, way more. Refs will be forced to have close looks at stonewall holdings on corners. It will take time before the players adjust.

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      3. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 hours ago

        Deffo more like the world cup so it will be a midfield of neves noble pogba milner

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    7. svasei - Up (?) the Rovers
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      BB in week 1 is not ideal because you don't know yet who the best bargains are. You have the standard team value of 100m and no chance of having more big hitters than the average.

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      1. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 hours ago

        If I would’ve bench boost this season I would’ve scored an additional 32 points. I’ll get nowhere near that this week, even with my four players playing twice.

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 10 hours ago

          More happenstance than anything. AWB really skewed it.

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          1. HollywoodXI
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 10 hours ago

            Not really. I also had Mendy on my bench who scored 15 points alone.

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      2. Rash
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 10 hours ago

        I'd have scored an extra 34 points playing BB in gw1 (99 scored)

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 10 hours ago

          You would have picked different players on BB in GW1.

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  20. Lemongrab
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Tough call this week.

    Eriksen to Salah
    Or
    Jota to Mane

    Will be triple captaining whoever i bring in Vs Hud

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    1. Rash
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      B is a bigger upgrade

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    2. All For One
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      Jota>Mane

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  21. Sandy Ravage
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    TC
    A - Mane (HUD) GW36
    B - Sterling (LEI) GW37
    C - Lacazette (BHA) GW37

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    1. Gudjohnsen
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      A

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    2. Pep's Money Laundry
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      I would go A but I maybe a little biased

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    3. All For One
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      A

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    4. YEAH PITCH!
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      D) Son vs WH

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  22. EMBOLOFAN
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    fpl players who sign ugly, weird or physiognomically weak players like almiron, kdb, deeney, brooks...these people deserve everything that comes to them. green arrows reveal themselves to those who understand the importance of building a handsome and physically imposing team.

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    1. Lionel Ronaldo
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 11 hours ago

      Show your face instead of spouting nonsense.

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      1. EMBOLOFAN
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 11 hours ago

        ownership of even one of these players is like introducing a virus into the ecosystem of your squad. this is why you aren't in the top 1k. i am trying to help you

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        1. clodhopper
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 10 hours ago

          Lets see your score please

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          1. EMBOLOFAN
            • 5 Years
            5 years, 10 hours ago

            855OR, 59 points today. guided by the strategy of signing as many handsome players as i can afford.

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    2. HNI
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      Look at deulofeu lmao. He is so weak that he scored even though had a knock. Weak and fpl points dont go hand in hand else fraser wouldnt have been fpl gold ever

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      1. EMBOLOFAN
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 10 hours ago

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-3P9YikQ3E

        there is nothing weak about this man

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    3. Yank Revolution
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      Shoot, you don't even have a grav, Faceless Man

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      1. EMBOLOFAN
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 10 hours ago

        you need not be a work of art yourself to understand the value of signing handsome players

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  23. Pep's Money Laundry
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Southampton are the Brighton from GW34

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  24. gooberman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Great start for my 3 Southampton lads. All on zero points at half time! Eff sake.

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    1. clodhopper
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      Valery on too score a goal

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      1. Mo Mané Mo Problems
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 hours ago

        Well, this is awkward.

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  25. All For One
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    Have Mane and Son

    A)Wilson>Firmino
    B)Jimenez>Ings, Eriksen>Salah -4

    A or B guys?

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  26. HNI
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 11 hours ago

    I feel dyslexic when I try to spell Deulofeu Duelofue :p

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    1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      Deulofail

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      1. HNI
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 10 hours ago

        Me deulopass as kept him for the dgw

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    2. EMBOLOFAN
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      "feel"

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  27. Richd
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 10 hours ago

    All those slagging off the Brighton defenders have gone quiet

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    1. HNI
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      They shaging all over now

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    2. EMBOLOFAN
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      they were right to last week. the mistake was taking hits to get rid of them for terrible watford players.

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      1. Richd
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 10 hours ago

        It was still a good call last week.

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        1. EMBOLOFAN
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 10 hours ago

          didnt say it wasnt

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          1. g40steve
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 10 hours ago

            Did you C Jota?

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        2. Yank Revolution
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 10 hours ago

          I still have my Duff Man, oh yeah!

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        3. @FPLDIARYFPL
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 10 hours ago

          Was good call to get them in. The captain shouts was what I think was being slagged off.

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    3. Amey
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      🙂
      Sold Duffy for Yoshida.
      Got KDB for Eriksen.
      At least have Deulofeu to soften the blow

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    4. The Polymath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      They are rubbish! But thanks for the 12 points today. 😀

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    5. Do I Not Like Orange
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 hours ago

      Not here, benched the horrible duo so my hate for them has been magnified if anything.

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      1. clodhopper
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 10 hours ago

        Super bench boost realy ryan dunk and duffy and llorente on 19 points already after last week i never expected this

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  28. PlayPercentage
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 10 hours ago

    Saints 2-0 down. Valery must surely be a starter for the next game.

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  29. TeamSteam
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 10 hours ago

    Anyone better? Didn`t BB cus of Gracias comments about Deulofeu so he seemed unlikely to start in my mind, and didn`t see much from my 3x Brighton defence. Also i have Jota who easily coulda scored twice or thrice in that game. Also got KDB off injured and only an assist from my TC Aguero, who admittedly didn`t have much. Coulda scored on that one big chance and certainly City should have had a pen. I hate this game.

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    1. MTPockets
        5 years, 10 hours ago

        You benched Deulofeu?

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        1. TeamSteam
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 10 hours ago

          Yes. Yes i did.

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          1. MTPockets
              5 years, 10 hours ago

              Then you have my sympathy

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          2. TeamSteam
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 10 hours ago

            Gracia said ahead of last gw that Deulofeu had trained all week, and he didn`t even make the squad. This time he said "he trained yesterday so we`ll see". To me that sounded like bs and i didn`t expect him to play against Huddersfield - which was the one game i wanted him for in the first place.

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            1. MTPockets
                5 years, 10 hours ago

                I didn't expect him to play today either. That was a very tough choice vs Jota, may well have made the same one in same situation.

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                1. TeamSteam
                  • 11 Years
                  5 years, 10 hours ago

                  Idk if you`ve seen highlights, but Jota easily could have had 2-4 goals today. Which wouldn`t just mean his points in the bag, but also all the bench boosting Brighton boys lose their cs points, obviously.

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          3. Do I Not Like Orange
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 10 hours ago

            Didn't BB cos of Deeney. Duffy & Dunk on bench. Vardy out for Kun (could still work out). Bednarek, Valery & Foster all in team.

            Rival BB'd with Deulo, Duffy & Ryan to overtake me by about 30pts in main cash league. Can't wait for this season to end.

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            1. TeamSteam
              • 11 Years
              5 years, 10 hours ago

              Same. I`ve dropped from top 1k around gw 15 to about 28k where i am now. Feel like i`ve made the wrong turn at every crossroads and mixed in with a bit of bad luck (which is ofcourse subjective, but still). Ironically i`m still poised to profit in my cashleagues, mostly due to highest score in a non dgw. Final season for me, not enjoying it one bit.

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          4. FPL.team
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 10 hours ago

            I benched Deu but took the risk on benchboost, him along with Ryan and Duffy has me on 31pts so far from benchboost so I'm so glad I did now!

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            1. TeamSteam
              • 11 Years
              5 years, 10 hours ago

              35 points and counting on my bench. How many cs does Brighton have away from home prior to today? Jota is a differential in my leagues, yet he misses 2 sitters and twice off the woodwork.

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        2. Nanoelektronicar
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 10 hours ago

          GW 32 - Deuloufeu
          GW 35 - Doucure

          Well done me.

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