Scout Notes

The Huddersfield Effect boosts Liverpool assets in big Anfield win

Liverpool assets did exactly what we thought they would do against Huddersfield, and it made for a hugely satisfying start to Gameweek 36.

The Reds swept Huddersfield aside comfortably with a big 5-0 win, which featured double-figure hauls for many of our favourite Fantasy options.

We’ve taken a look at what the result means for them in the closing Gameweeks of the campaign.

Liverpool 5-0 Huddersfield Town

Goals: Naby Keita (£7.1m), Sadio Mané x2 (£10.1m), Mohamed Salah x2 (£13.2m)

Assists: Salah, Andrew Robertson x2 (£6.8m), Trent Alexander-Arnold (£5.6m), Jordan Henderson (£5.3m)

Mohamed Salah (£13.2m) was a huge difference maker for many Fantasy managers on Friday night as he recorded a 19-point Gameweek score against Huddersfield Town. The Egyptian now has attacking returns in each of his last five matches, although his double-figure haul on Friday night was the first since Gameweek 23.

It is certainly likely that his big score in Gameweek 36 was due to the opposition. After all, the Terriers ranked bottom of the league for shots conceded in the box in the four away matches prior to this one. That made for some rather inflated statistics for Salah and company.

In the four home matches prior to the 5-0 win over Huddersfield, the Egyptian was averaging 4.75 shots per game, 2.75 in the box and 1.75 on target. On Friday night, Salah registered eight goal attempts, five of which were in the box and three were on target.

However, Salah’s recent resurgence is not entirely based on the quality of opposition he has faced. Gameweek 36 was the fourth consecutive league match that Jordan Henderson (£5.3m) was deployed in a more advanced role in central midfield. We had already noticed that the support of the England international was having a positive effect on Salah’s attacking potential in the last three matches, so it was pleasing to see the Egyptian steal the show against Huddersfield.

Furthermore, Henderson’s own Fantasy potential continues to be of note, as he got himself another assist. That means the central midfielder has four attacking returns to his name in the four matches since moving to a new role. With Fantasy managers looking for differential options in the closing Gameweeks of the season, a Liverpool attacker that can offer points potential at just £5.3m looks like a great opportunity for some.

He may not have hit the same heights as Salah but Sadio Mané (£10.1m) was still able to reward more than half of the top 10k with 13 points for their captaincy. It was certainly a smart decision to put the armband on him given that he was top of the league for big chances and expected goals (xG) in the four home matches prior to this one. Furthermore, he had 10 goals in his previous 10 home league matches. Mané was admittedly another player who hugely benefitted from the poor showing from Huddersfield’s defence. In the last four home matches before Gameweek 36, the Senegalese international registered an average of 3.5 shots per game, 2.75 in the box and 1.5 on target. Against Huddersfield, he had four shots, four in the box and two on target, certainly an improvement although not as big a jump as Salah’s.

“Sadio always had ability, but his mindset was more a creator, a door-opener than someone who runs through the door himself. I’m not sure somebody has jumped that high since Air Jordan!” – Jurgen Klopp

Ultimately, Mané was unfortunate not to come away with more goals on Friday night. He struck the post with a header in the second half which could have completed his hat-trick. Missing this big chance was one of the factors in him not getting any bonus points despite scoring twice.

Furthermore, Mané somewhat suffered from a slightly selfish attitude of Salah and Daniel Sturridge (£5.6m). There were a number of moments in the match when either of his forward colleagues could have played him in but opted instead to take on a speculative shot on goal. Some Fantasy managers were bemoaning the fact that Roberto Firmino (£9.3m) was not on the pitch, typically more willing to set up his colleagues when in attacking positions. Although, ironically, the last time he missed a league match at Anfield, Liverpool recorded a 5-0 win, back in Gameweek 28.

The Brazilian had looked all set to be involved in Gameweek 36 having not been mentioned by Jurgen Klopp in his press conference on Thursday. However, since that media commitment, Firmino picked up a slight muscle problem that was considered serious enough to keep him out of the Huddersfield match. Klopp insisted he would probably be ready for the Barcelona match so it doesn’t sound too serious.

“Actually, yesterday after training he mentioned a little muscle issue. We assess it obviously. It’s not a big thing but was enough to leave him out today, that’s all. He might be ready for Wednesday, it’s rather likely.” – Jurgen Klopp

Thankfully, Liverpool’s defence also followed the script for the evening as they kept their 20th clean sheet of the season in the match where they were most likely to record one. Crucially, there were also attacking returns that Fantasy managers had hoped for as Andrew Robertson (£6.8m) got his 11th and 12th assist of the season to become the first ever defender in FPL history to score more than 200 points in one campaign. Meanwhile, Trent Alexander-Arnold (£5.6m) also got an assist.

There was some good news for Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (£6.4m) who made his first appearance since a serious injury last season. He is still in the early stages on the road back to full fitness, so is certainly not a legitimate Fantasy option yet, but could be next season. Obviously, central midfield is a bit of a rotation minefield under Klopp, but there were encouraging signs from Oxlade-Chamberlain, who nearly scored just minutes after coming on as a substitute.

“We tried to be careful with him after such a long time. Now he’s ready, and that’s really cool. It would have been goal of the season if he could have scored.” – Jurgen Klopp

“He worked so hard to get back to where he is now & when he came on he looked as if he had never been away. He has been sharp in training and I wish that chance went in for him, but we are all delighted to have him back because he’s an important player.” – Jordan Henderson

Huddersfield’s ability to boost Fantasy assets they face is now starting to become a worrying trend for the Terriers, who are now mathematically rooted to the foot of the Premier League table for the rest of the campaign. How obliging they are could bode well for Manchester United and Southampton assets in Gameweek 37 and 38.

However, backing those sides’ defences could cause some disappointment, as Karlan Grant (£5.0m) continues to prove a nuisance. He was the one who knocked out Watford’s clean sheet in stoppage time in Double Gameweek 35, and he came close to busted Liverpool’s on Friday night. The 5-0 scoreline was certainly a fair reflection of the game but Huddersfield did ask one or two questions of the Reds’ defence in the first half. With his pace and drive on the ball, Grant came close to an unlikely goal but was just short of a final touch on the ball.

Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Alisson; Robertson, van Dijk, Lovren, Alexander-Arnold (Gomez 88′); Keita, Wijnaldum (Shaqiri 73′), Henderson; Mané, Sturridge (Oxlade-Chamberlain 73′), Salah.

Huddersfield Town XI (4-1-4-1): Lössl; Durm, Kongolo, Schindler, T Smith; Stanković (Pritchard 81′); Grant, J Bacuna, Hogg, Mbenza (Kachunga 87′); Mounié (Löwe 65′).

902 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    3 pool & 3 city next year is going to seriously hurt the bank

    1. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Double up on the defence.

      Ederson, Robbo, VVD, Laporte.

      1. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Even still

        Robbo & VVD 14mil
        Ederson & Laporte 12mil
        26mil + two of

        Sterling 12.5
        Salah 13
        Mane 11.5 or 12

        And that’s half the budget gone

        1. Begbie.
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Ederson and Laporte will be 6.5 I bet.

        2. Lovren an elevator
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Worth it

    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      I think Foden will be a viable option next year also Kieta/Henderson/Gomez
      Plenty of alternatives

      1. twoplustwo
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Lol have you seen Henderson play?

        1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          He is getting forward more and his role has alerted sightly under Klopp.
          I think there is value in him next year if he continues the same.

    3. Lovren an elevator
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      But still template?
      Maybe KDB will be alot cheaper next year atleast

    4. AndyCook
        4 years, 11 months ago

        It does get designed so can’t have all the best players every year, they just are not always necessarily from the same teams. Mane won’t be 12 and probably not even 11.5, Hazard has scored much more than 200 without exceeding I think 10.5 (maybe 11) and Eriksen, Alli have done 200 points and stayed below 10. Sterling was 11 this year, Mane will be 11 I believe. Sterling will come back in at 11 again, maybe 11.5 as he has basically replicated last seasons points in similar minutes. I’d be surprised if any of those defensive players were not 6.5 though.

    5. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      This is the longest page in FFS history

      1. TheDragon
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        #awkward

        1. Champ
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          🙂 I always mess up

      2. Champ
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        *previous lol

      3. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        It’s all about timing!

      4. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Were e some extremely long pages in the summer, could hardly load the site on mobile because of multiple mega threads on the same page.

    6. WVA
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Best two players for next gameweek?

      1. twoplustwo
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Jimi and Son

      2. ㅤRising
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Aguero & Sterling

      3. TheDragon
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        All city attack

        1. WVA
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Leicester that bad?

          1. TheDragon
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            At defending yes.

            And city are immense at home, they have to win, nothing else to play for, last home game of the season.

            Aguero & Sterling are as essential as Liverpool players were this week in my opinion

            1. IRBOX ⚽
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              Leicester have top 6 defensive stats over their past 6 fixtures

              1. TheDragon
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 11 months ago

                Ok you go without any city attack, I’ll have sterling and aguero and captain one. We can compare scores next week?

              2. F_Ivanovic
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 11 months ago

                Yes because they have played 5 bottom half teams and Watford....they're also useless at keeping a CS as those who went with Pereira found out.

            2. Kun, Ayew Nigerian?
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              Are you suggesting going Aguero and a sub 7.3m MF is better than going Hazard and Rashford?

          2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            I agree with you I think Leicester could trip Man City up with thier counter attacking style.

      4. drughi
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Jota Jimenez

        1. Balls of Steel
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          This

    7. twoplustwo
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Which is the better midfield duo for the remaining games this week?

      Pogba Duel

      vs.

      Maddison Fraser

      1. BooYaKasha
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        A

    8. It's not easy to finish regularly in the top 10k
      Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      How many members are in the FFS members leagues? Seems to me people underestimate how many managers there are who play seriously now. You're not entitled to 10k just because you spend a lot of time each week pondering transfers and chip strategies. You're one among tens of thousands doing that. Top 25k is a good rank these days, especially with all the spoon feeding that lessens the gap between 'serious players' and casuals.

      People whining about falling from 2k to 10k and the likes are a bit blinkered..

      1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Good Lord I'd love to be in 10K!!
        It was hard before, now, so, so much harder.

      2. TheDragon
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Also given number of people playing you’d expect a lot of casuals to make the top 10k just due to variance

        Top 10k is a very very good rank. If you regularly get top 10k finishes you are extremely good at FPL and that’s a fact.

        Regular top 1k finishes and you have basically seen the Matrix

        1. bigbudgie
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Haha. This. The mind boggles at the history of some players on here. Multiple top 1k finishes is some kind of sorcery

          1. Pieterke30
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            LUCK, more like

        2. BooYaKasha
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Class

        3. Numb
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Around 50% of the top 10k have never finished top 10k before.

          1. TheDragon
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Indeed - sort of agrees what I’m saying. Getting a one off top 10k could be skill could be luck. Consistent top 10k’s that’s all skill

            1. Numb
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              Yeah

            2. Tev
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              I genuinely don’t think you could get top 10k this year without serious skill

              1. TheDragon
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 11 months ago

                100% you can.

                So many of the top 100 have lots of years history and no even respectable finishes.

                There have been an abnormally high number of 50/50 choices this year which have had very big variance in points. This increase likelihood of casuals getting top 10k

                Also I’m top 10k so that’s further proof! 🙂

                1. Tev
                  • 6 Years
                  4 years, 11 months ago

                  Haha, well done mate. I’d be careful judging people fully on their rank history tbh, not everyone has taken this game ultra seriously since 2012. They could string some great ranks together from now.

                  1. TheDragon
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 11 months ago

                    I agree but it’s very unusual to go from year after year of 200k+ finishes to then top 10k (based on skill)

                    You’d more expect a season or 2 of sub 100k finishes first.

                    1. Numb
                      • 9 Years
                      4 years, 11 months ago

                      Don’t agree. See below.

                2. Numb
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 11 months ago

                  I don’t think it’s that. I think it’s more that a lot of people have suddenly got more information this season, mainly via Twitter. You only need to follow a few decent accounts.

                  1. TheDragon
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 11 months ago

                    Interesting - it’s rare for someone to go from Very casual to very dedicated in 1 season though

                    1. Numb
                      • 9 Years
                      4 years, 11 months ago

                      It’s happening. I put a post on Twitter about half the top 10k having no previous good ranks and loads of people replied saying things like “that’s me, thanks to X, Y and Z Twitter accounts. I didn’t know what I was doing before this season” This is the new norm

                      1. TheDragon
                        • 5 Years
                        4 years, 11 months ago

                        Is that skill though? - perhaps that is a philosophical debate!!

                        1. Tev
                          • 6 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          Is it skill to get info from people on here?

                        2. TheDragon
                          • 5 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          Deciding if it’s good or bad information is skill

                        3. Tev
                          • 6 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          Just like Twitter I would argue, unless you’re directly copying their teams. Do think there’s quite a lot of groupthink though, Twitter especially.

                        4. Amateur Pundit Zan
                          • 11 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          Finding good information from people on here is a skill in the same way finding a needle in a haystack is a skill 🙂

                      2. benbro
                        • 5 Years
                        4 years, 11 months ago

                        Surely answered your own point there. I’d post on twitter and people will tell you they scored high because of Twitter - it’s the echo chamber effect. None of us have a truest broad enough view to see why most are performing as they are.

                  2. MINUS FOUR
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 6 Years
                    4 years, 11 months ago

                    Kind of agree and kind of don't agree at the same time. I am way more serious about the game this season than ever before, but I've never looked at Twitter. Don't like it, not into it at all. And I don't think you need to be on Twitter to do well at FPL. It probably confuses people more than anything.

      3. Jafooli
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Agreed, 50k is the new 10k.

        6.5m players now. 2m in my first season.

        And way more taking the game seriously

        1. bigbudgie
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          But 50% are dead teams

          1. Jafooli
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Same when there were 2m - 50% ghost ships

          2. Brosstan
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            The percentage of dead teams was probably higher before tbh

            1. bigbudgie
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              I think as the game grows the number of these dead teams will grow too. Teams created for one week competitions in some countries seems to be really popular, especially in the middle east or Egypt.

              1. wernerhedgehog
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 11 months ago

                Social media does help to retain interest too i think. When it was just FFS and 0 twitter interest i'd frequently ignore my team if I wasn't doing well. (been playing for 8 years mind).

      4. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        I pointed out yesterday that if you look at the Top 20 in the FFS Career HOF (not the live one) then a lot of them are on course for their worst finish in the last 5 seasons. It has been harder this season IMO.

        1. TheDragon
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          This is a bit like what happened in poker - you had the old live Vegas pros who would be the best year in year out - then internet poker led to a rapid increase in player base, knowledge sharing and skill. Now those old poker pros who used to be the sharks are the fish.

          This could easily be what’s happening in FPL to the ‘seasoned pros’ having good ranks 5 years ago is basically irrelevant given how much the game has changed. This is why I personally think the HoF algorithm should be updated, there are lots near the top who will be living off a legacy.

          If you aren’t moving forwards you are going backwards.

          1. Geoff
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Yeah, I largely agree with that stuff about the growing/shared knowledge and skills.

            Maybe some of the 'pros' are riding on past history, but HoF weeds that out quickly for those who aren't doing well. I was 9th for a while and then finished 70k last season, and I'm way off it now.

            The ones near the top who live off a legacy drop quickly with bad seasons!

            1. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
              • 10 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              Agree on this. after 4 x top 7k finishes in the spin I had a mare last season with 200k and fell from 95th HOF to 500 odd. That seemed a massive fall to me

          2. French Gooner
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Having played poker professionally I tend to also see many similarities between FPL and poker. Mainly the variance aspect of the game.

            “Top 10k” is a previous measure we used as the 0.5/1% of the total teams back in the days. The equivalent will now be Top 30k in my opinion.

        2. BooYaKasha
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          This is my 13th season, and I think this one was the hardest

      5. Fitzy.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Well said...

      6. Champ
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Correct. You see a lot with sub 20k ranks and when you look at their previous season histories they're rubbish. Consistency is the real measure. Sub 50k regularly shows the good managers

        1. Fitzy.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Thanks mate, appreciated... 😉

          1. Champ
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Well done fitzy. You deserve to boast! That's brilliant

        2. F_Ivanovic
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          6k atm and have never been higher than 300k before. But I never used to take it seriously and would make decisions based solely on feel. I would also frequently give up at varying stages of the season.

          Playing in a money league for the first time and have taken it seriously throughout - made some bad decisions early season but have played very solidly 2nd part and luck has ran my way a bit too.

      7. Alnair
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        I get what you're saying but to be 13k, despite TC'ing Sane and vc Aguero in 25, despite FH32 only getting you 79 pts, despite BB35 only getting you 94 pts shows the struggle and the management put in the other gws.

        To have that absolutely annihilated because either Klopp lied in his presser or Firmino got injured after the presser is extremely brutal.

        I'm whining I know, but this just isn't normal.

      8. shirtless
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        On course for my 8th top 30k finish. Don't think I'll ever beat 4k again though!

      9. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        I am on target for the top 10k by some miracle after a number of bad decisions. Siggurdsson out before 14 points. Firmino in this week no Liverpool defence went all out attack. Wasted TC chip weeks ago etc.

        But in my head I view it as equivalent to a top 5k as there are so many more people playing.
        Of course there are many teams who are dead teams or some people have multiple teams. But that always happens.
        Also the level of data/info is way more freely available than even five years ago never-mind 10 years.
        As a result it is harder to play. But you can turn that to your advantage as most players consistently looking for data and info all go for the same ones.

      10. Numb
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        I agree. People talk about top 10k but it’s not the same top 10k anymore, especially this season. What used to be top 10k is maybe top 50k now. There are probably 500k teams with similar teams, saving their chips for the DGWs, etc.

      11. Numb
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Also a lot of good players have more than one team these days, teams for relatives, teams for different challenges, etc. It’s not really spoken about but believe me, it happens.

        1. Numb
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Not me, I hasten to add, just the one team for me! I repeat, just one team.

        2. Tev
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Yeah I intend on doing a zombie challenge next year, looks fun

        3. TheDragon
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          This is cheating - people can dress it up how they want but multi accounting is cheating

          Relatives can have teams sure and they can help them but it’s not their team

          1. Numb
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            I agree, but it happens. I know of people who do it, very good players. Some just a second team in a different name - maybe it started out being a relative's team who lost interest, who knows? Others I’ve seen say “my punts team is doing better than my real team” or “my Big defence team is in the top 10k” or whatever. The top 10k is managed by far fewer people than 10,000.

            1. TheDragon
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              That’s outrageously bad and these people should banned. Completely unacceptable. It is cheating

              109% serious

              1. Geoff
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 11 Years
                4 years, 11 months ago

                Particularly if their teams are beating mine 😉

            2. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
              • 10 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              But you can’t improve your HOF rank by having multiple teams and that rank is king for me

              1. clodhopper
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 11 months ago

                What is a good hof rank in percentage

      12. Tev
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        This. There’s just so much useful info and content, it’s much more accessible this year. The live FPL website is amazing, loads of xG data to see, not really into podcasts but there’s many of those floating about, FPL twitter has grown hugely...
        I reckon there’s 500k or so serious players this year, still 3 million active. These numbers are insane compared to a few years ago

        1. circusmonkey
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          My best rank was in 08-09, my first time, although I have not played seriously every year. So that shows the growth in numbers playing.

          1. Tev
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Yeah exactly. I hadn’t really played seriously until this season, just enough to win my mini-leagues when my mates were finishing 1m+

      13. Flynniesta
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Thought I was going to break the 1k barrier for the 1st time ever around the mid season mark. I used to be so confident of kicking on towards the latter stages of the season, not any more

      14. Business Cat
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        There's an enormous mass of players that follow these FPL youtubers and slavishly follow their team, do the same transfers.

        They're run by good players...most have teams in/around 10-20K

        I've mentioned this many times before, but I think FPL needs to start punishing template and rewarding differential to make it more interesting and fight back against the above.

        Small levers to tweak baseline score, or captaincy multiplier, or bonus points.

        For e.g. owning/captaining Mane this week should be rewarded less than a slightly more differential pick like Vardy.

        Make differentials more attractive to own, punish those who slavishly follow the template.

        1. iyiy
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Absolute nonsense

          1. Business Cat
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Nothing like good constructive counter arguments...

        2. Rsforstar
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          To have my mane/salah (who we expect to bring most points) captain rewarded less because youre doing something 'different' for the sake of being different sounds unnatural

          1. Business Cat
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            I'm not suggesting enormous changes in points/multipliers.

            Perhaps 10-20% less captaincy points for massively owned, massively captained players, 10-20% more for players less than 10% owned/ 5% captained...whatever.

            While the masses might be perfectly happy to play it safe, those that wish to get ahead by taking a bit of a punt should be rewarded for attempting to do so.

            Bring a bit more variance into the game.

            1. IRBOX ⚽
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              It’s a level playing field currently. Your choices alone dictate your rank. No need to change a winning formula

            2. iyiy
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              So what happens when you bring a player in at the start of the week and they have moderate ownership and you skipper them, then by the end of the week they have huge ownership? You now get penalised by 20% of your points...?

              People can try to get ahead in the current system by picking the right players, at the right times, with no weird adaptations to the point system.

        3. benbro
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          This is why I really like the scoring system on some of the alternatives like Dugout Fc which gives more points for passes completed, big chance created, successful blocks, etc... makes it less about goals and cs and more about good play. Brings def mids right in and rewards deep game knowledge rather than just the right premium picks

      15. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        By the way you do not have to a member to be a 'serious' player.
        I became a member once a few years ago and found it too distracting information overload. I didn't have a great season.

        I prefer making my own decision's and it has got even worse in the members area in recent years it seems with the fad for 'underlying stats' as if they are gospel and trump all other variables.

        1. Bird Raymond
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Yes I found this with membership. Information overload led me to make poor decisions based on stats rather than more obvious and more effective moves. Not a criticism of the members area, just a bit too involved for me.

          I enjoy getting the distilled stats on the scoutcast etc, though I suppose some would consider this "spoonfeeding".

          I've always tried to keep it simple. Fixtures, form and keeping an eye out for out of position players and bargains.

          1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            There is also plenty of you tubers now doing fpl a lot give a quick synopsis of the stats at least.
            Plus there are also plenty of stats sites if you want to look them up.
            But like you the way I play the stats are a background thing for me after fixtures, watching games and form.
            Some fpl managers are great at using the stats primarily, but not for me.

      16. Trippier Hazard
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Don't really know enough about this area, but is there a significant % of multiple teams managed by the same players, and also, teams that are run using algorithms of some sort?

        If so, wouldn't these areas be ones for FPL to prioritise some kinds of sanction against?

        Haven't the foggiest idea on how to do it though or what a fair sanction might look like. Would be great if players could be limited to one team per player in FPL, given there are over 6m players now.

      17. IRBOX ⚽
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Mark ‘GOAT’ Sutherns laughing at the title of this hot topic

      18. juho
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        my guess is there'll be around 2 - 2.5m active managers at the end of the season, so top 25k can be considered a good rank

      19. jia you
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        I've fallen from 1k to 10k since this time last week! Was expecting a drop but not to this extent as managers that have played BB last GW and TC this GW have skyrocketed and fair play to them! But what's wrong with having a bit of a whine about it as it does hurt after all the effort, good decisions (captaincy, etc) and bit of luck to get to the top 1k (was hoping to stay there) 😉
        My first serious season was 2016/17 where I finished top 5k. The seasons before that in my history for example were basically ghost ship teams (certain others are in the same boat). But def agree its very tough this season and top 25k is definitely a very good rank!

      20. _Ninja_
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Currently top 10k..will be 7/9 times for me if i finish in it.

      21. Forza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        The difficulty of being consistent is epitomised by my rank history. I haven't drastically changed the way I play since 2014, but:

        2014/15 - 3,035
        2015/16 - 235,246
        2016/17 - 489,993
        2017/18 - 225,201
        Before last night - 55th (Huddersfield are dead to me)

        1. Planet Head
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          wow, nice one!

          1. Forza
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Thanks, the 55 didn't last long though 😆

      22. Mo Mané Mo Problems
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Basically I think the number of players has increased, apparently hugely over the last few years, but the number of players playing with more information has increased more so.

        When I last played 2015-16 I think the season ended with 4m or something players. Now it’s 6m. Personally I think this is non-sense and people are entering a huge number of multiple teams. Personally think no serious player misses GW1, so if you OR rank is worse than your GW1 entries rank then you are being beaten by X multiaccounters.

        If I entered 10 teams I’d be doing better than I am, for sure. People say “50% of the top 10k have never been there before” have you considered a lot of these are multi accounters with 1-3 3 seasons histories?

        1. Mysterion
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          GW2 ranks https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/leagues/standings/276/classic
          don't know whether #1 is a multiaccounter or not but love that team name & manager name 😆

          1. Mo Mané Mo Problems
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            First ever season? Yeah, I’m sure this is a single team Manager...

            Just proves my point really. Probably has 10 main teams, 10 GW2 teams and then changed the name of the one that is the best.

            1. Mysterion
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              Mo teams mo problems...

        2. RedLightning
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          There's a first time for everything.
          Some of those who are in the top 10k for the first time may be stars of the future, and this may be the first of many such finishes for them.
          There are many FPL managers who have never achieved a top 10k finish, despite taking the game pretty seriously, and many others who only ever achieve this once.
          But there are others who have had multiple top 10k finishes, and this requires a fair amount of skill.

          I agree that there are a larger number of serious players now and a lot more spoon-feeding than there used to be, which makes it more difficult to finish in the top 10k these days than it was in the past.
          But although some FPL managers do run illegal multiple teams, I am not convinced that many of them finish in the top 10k without being detected.

          1. Mo Mané Mo Problems
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Did you click on the team Mysterion linked?

            100% multi accounter

            1. RedLightning
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 13 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              How can you tell?

          2. Mysterion
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Where they finish shouldn't matter though, gotta be deleted regardless - obviously not all can be detected but at least the hardcore multi accounters running hundreds of bot teams with literally the same manager name on all of them should be dealt with... can't recall the poster's name but someone on here found a bunch of these and mailed FPL about it last season

            1. RedLightning
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 13 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              I agree with that, but how prevalent is that sort of thing?

      23. Vobinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        This is probably the first season I've taken FPL very seriously.

        My best rank before this year was 108k (lots of things went my way and I didn't put much effort in)

        My rank this year stands at 200k. I know the mistakes I have made, and hope I'll have learnt from those next year. But, it does look increasingly difficult to get near top 10k. Might be an issue also that I don't watch many games so don't get the eye test like most do.

        I think patience is a big virtue and a big thing I need to improve on. But it has seemed that a lot of 50/50 choices this year have had big variances in points.

      24. MINUS FOUR
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Throughout this season there's been one constant in what I see a lot of managers do and what I can't understand if you take the game somewhat seriously - and that is early transfers. There's no doubt in my mind that the advantage I've had over rivals is that I don't worry about price changes and I wait until deadline day, even right up to the last hour, to consider all possibilities before making transfers. I can't overestimate how important this has been.

        Yet every week I still say comments and questions that clearly indicate managers have not waited and waited until the last possible moment to make big decisions. I simply do no not understand why this happens. Team value is virtually meaningless. In fact some of my biggest regrets all season come from picking players who cost more even if I wasn't convinced they were actually the best FPL option. There is always an alternative, and spending up to the limit of your budget does not guarantee returns. The best way to play the game is surely to make as many informed decisions as possible. It's amazing to me how often I see this factor ignored, then people wonder why they're not doing better.

        1. Celt Abroad
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          This is an excellent point, and something I’ve noticed a lot this season. There were seasons when I suffered a lot from having low team value in the final weeks - my rivals had pretty much exactly the same team, but could afford one or two crucial upgrades. So I’ve concentrated a lot on team value the last few years, and that hasn’t worked either - at least once or twice a season it inevitably costs you with points hits when someone gets unexpectedly injured (like firminho yesterday).

      25. Ruth_NZ
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Maybe it should be 20k now rather than 10k but that really is quite easy to achieve that if that's what you are playing for. Winning it or getting close (say within 50 points) is much harder; to do that you need to either be very good or very lucky (and ideally both).

        The problem with 10k (or 20k) as a marker is that it encourages 'template' play, safety play. That isn't how to go about it if you want to win. You then need to play 'pure' (for points and only for points) and ignore ownership, coverage, captaincy polls and all the rest... and hope that you run hot enough in your judgements.

        This is the intrinsic problem with the so-called HOF. It rewards the steady, competent manager over the one that goes for broke. It's a bit like a sprinter that has a sequence of 9.9 second 100m runs. The HOF will reward that over the one that runs a 9.7 but also some 10.5s.

        It depends what your aim is. That's what I am saying. Playing for a safe 10k/20k finish has never appealed to me in any case.

      26. TallestJohn
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Feel like I've played this season better than last thanks to having a great squad from the off which gave me probably my best ever start, played the chips pretty well, planned well for blanks, don't feel like I've missed as many massive scores and yet I've gone from a respectable 60k finish last year to hovering around 400-500k. On course for my worst season since Suarez and Sturridge scored 5 between them every week and I had neither. No idea how it's happened.

      27. Tommyg
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        6 too 10k finishes but none have been in the last 3 years.

        Struggled to get into the top 20k and I fully blame this site for that.

      28. Mrcjcullen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        I’m definitely still a casual and I’ve made top 9k..... but will I hold on for the next two weeks....

      29. Wilch
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Look at Mark Sutherns for example,the guys got a crystal ball. He needs to buy lotto tickets cause he can see the future

      30. Cak Juris
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/entry/2957447/history

        Yes, this season become harder and harder
        I always in 10K for 6 season
        Now, I am still in 27K

      31. nyron
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        I think there's an assumption that the only way to be successful is to spend countless hours studying stats and a snobbery towards people who don't. Really I think the key is discipline, and I say that as someone whose season fell apart around GW10 due to recklessness and lack of discipline.

        I think FPL rewards people who stick to a plan, take sensible, calculated risks and don't get up in the fear of missing out, which goes against human nature. As I say, I got off to a good start then went against my own judgement and got caught up taking risks to recover so I'm not pontificating.

        I think it's about who stays disciplined the longest rather than who spend the most time researching.

      32. benbro
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Some got lucky, some tried harder, some used the available materials, some even did worse.

        It’s laughable when some say this year is harder than previous ones. I think if you are looking at millions doing anything it all really comes down the gambles that pay off.

    9. Sandy Ravage
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Who wins?
      A - Digne + Kola + Redmond
      B - Doherty + Moura + Hazard

      1. Viper
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        That's very tough. I'd guess B

        1. Viper
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          I have a feeling Moura won't play though

      2. FPL Forward Thinker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        B by 7 points

    10. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      84 points from Salah TC,Mane, Robertson.

      That is more than most of my gameweeks with 11.

      Incredible high after the despair of GW25 Sane DGW (C) and my constant red arrows of late.

      1. Ambrosiana Inter
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Well done on holding onto the chip despite the allure of the double gameweeks...goes to show...

        1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          I've been burnt by every one except DGW35.

          Yes, they can be seriously over rated. Have fallen for it many times, like Ryan Duffy!

        2. rojojojo
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          What does it go to show?

      2. shirtless
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Good work. Salah(c), Mane and Robbo too for 65.

        I (tc) Salah for Fulham hoping he'd do what he did last night lol. Got a goal anyway.

    11. Tsparkes10
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Come on United!!

    12. bigbudgie
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      BBC reporting that Pogba has refused to do visa paperwork for preseason tour of China. If that's true then I would expect him to not play for United again.

      https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1122053770563719169?s=19

      1. Jafooli
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Will play for Man City next season

        1. FPL Forward Thinker
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Not even nearly good enough for City’s Bench never mind playing for them

          1. No Professionals
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Pogba is a top player. How many other top players have to play with matic, fred and periera?

            1. radawson
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              Same could be said for Hazard but he stands out for Chelsea despite being surrounded by players of a lesser level

      2. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Man Utd screwed. Likely to lose Pogba, Lukaku and Herrera in summer. Sanchez has been a bust (but perhaps can be revived?).

        1. Eat my goal!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Think they need to rebuild and losing a player that doesn’t want to play isn’t a bad thing

      3. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        The guy is a proper tool

        Looked like he couldn’t be bothered last game (again)

      4. twoplustwo
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        In reality could probably do with the rest after the WC and long season?? Didn't they go to America heavily weakened last season?

        1. bigbudgie
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Yes but that was because of the world cup. World cup was last year! They'll all have a proper summer off, won't they. Anyway, not the point, he's refusing to do something required by his contract...

          1. shirtless
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Only the Europeans. It's Copa America, Gold Cup and African Nations this summer!

            1. bigbudgie
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              haha...great point! Which has reminded me, there is still football to watch this summer!

      5. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Glad i sold that piece of work this game week. Let the players who have a future at united play. Martial and Pogba can do one.

        1. bigbudgie
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Agreed on Martial too. I'm surprised he hasn't injured his eyes the amount of time he spends rolling them. Get. Rid.

      6. DeadStarComing
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Fergie had it right the first time. Get rid!

        1. Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Yea...imagine doubting saf. A great judge of character which is how he made seemingly poor players overperform season after season. Greatest man manager of all time, he saw that Pogba was a poison personality.

      7. FPL Forward Thinker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Surely he has a servant or a private secretary that can do that administration?

        1. bigbudgie
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          haha. Of course he does. But 'he's refused' isn't literal. He's told the club he won't be doing it, more like?

      8. M.A.G
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        There are some rumors linking him back to Juve [ Swap betn. D.Costa or Dybala + Cash and Pogba ]

      9. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        I saw a seperate post on Reddit, sourced from a United journalist, that says this was completely untrue.

        Cant find the link now, but take it with a pinch of salt.

        1. Kno
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Agreed, seem to recall reading the same. I can see poggers going this summer, this visa stuff is probably just journalist BS tho

        2. bigbudgie
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          I wouldn't have posted it but it's BBC and they usually don't publish something unless they are 100% sure, no? Not turned into a clickbait site just yet...

          1. Do I Not Like Orange
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            It does say 'latest gossip' at the end of the link, though...

      10. Numb
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        He’ll play this weekend.

      11. clodhopper
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        No player bigger than the club good ridance time too rebuild he looked like he not bothered last week

    13. Party time
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Robertson has more assists this season than Pogba, David Silva, Bernardo, Gyfi Sigurdsson, Kdb etc

        1. Fitzy.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          And more points than any striker.

        2. bigbudgie
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Better than alonso in his FPL prime

          1. AndyCook
              4 years, 11 months ago

              But goals are so good! Haha

          2. twoplustwo
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Insta purchase next season

          3. Champ
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            He's amazing. That ball he dropped on manes head.... So consistent

          4. Jafooli
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Scotland will win the next World Cup with him.

            Bookmark this

            1. Champ
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              If he switches code maybe jaf!

          5. AndyCook
              4 years, 11 months ago

              He was great when I used to watch him at Hull. Always wondered why he didn’t seem highly rated there.

          6. Scotty B
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Have exact funds for Wilson > Auba next week or is Lukaku/Rashford a better option?

            1. Party time
                4 years, 11 months ago

                I'm going with Auba, golden boot innit

                1. AndyCook
                    4 years, 11 months ago

                    Won’t catch Salah now

                2. Party time
                    4 years, 11 months ago

                    but hold the transfer until after europa if you will get him

                  • how now brown cow
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 11 months ago

                    I'm going huddersfield chasing with rashford.

                  • Flynniesta
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 11 months ago

                    I’d avoid Lukaku - unsure about Rashford but tomorrow’s game should show us where United are at

                3. Viper
                  • 14 Years
                  4 years, 11 months ago

                  Morning all. Guy I'm chasing doesn't own Salah or Sterling. Which move looks better?

                  A. Mane - > Sterling

                  B. Salah - > Sterling

                  C. Forget about him. (Neither)

                  1. TheDragon
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 11 months ago

                    Well 10000000% not C!!

                    If you can afford it then do A but I’d be very happy with A or B

                    1. Viper
                      • 14 Years
                      4 years, 11 months ago

                      I can do A with 0.1m left to spare

                      1. TheDragon
                        • 5 Years
                        4 years, 11 months ago

                        Personal view is that if money no object I would slightly prefer Salah to Mane but certainly not enough to justify extra £3m, so depends if the cash would help

                  2. bigbudgie
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 11 months ago

                    I'm in same position. Made sure I had both Mane and Salah for this game but now the decision is whether to keep Salah or downgrade for Sterling for the next two. City arguably have the easier last two games? Newcastle can be stubborn at home and Wolves obviously are decent team who won't fancy rolling over

                    1. TheDragon
                      • 5 Years
                      4 years, 11 months ago

                      Next week City have the stand out fixture

                      - must win
                      - at home (home form is immense)
                      - nothing else to play for (so low rotation risk)
                      - last home game of season (will want to put on a show)
                      - Leicester defence (having owned pereira for much of the season I can confirm that Leicester love to concede)

                      Sterling & Aguero are first 2 players in my team for next week

                      1. bigbudgie
                        • 9 Years
                        4 years, 11 months ago

                        Yeah. I haven't given it much thinking time. But very logical argument you make. And I always side with the home team when its the top 6 we're talking about. Captain Sterling as well? I've got a gut feeling that Kun is going to lead City to the title again

                        1. TheDragon
                          • 5 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          I’ll definitely captain one of them but which I’m not sure.

                          It in doubt I usually go for the midfielder but agree Aguero could go big

                          1. Party time
                              4 years, 11 months ago

                              Hazard against Watford also a scrumptious fixture

                              1. TheDragon
                                • 5 Years
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                I’m long past being able to get hazard back in sadly

                        2. Party time
                            4 years, 11 months ago

                            I agree with Dragon

                          • aries1973
                            • 12 Years
                            4 years, 11 months ago

                            Best not to overlook liverpool vs Newcastle. Liverpool like scoring against this team. Pretty sure last week will bring out some big scores

                            1. Holmes
                              • 10 Years
                              4 years, 11 months ago

                              vs Toons?

                              Havent they scored something like 1 goal in 3 away games?

                      2. Party time
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          A

                        • DeadStarComing
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 13 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          If you're chasing I would go as different as possible. Have Salah and Sterling.

                      3. shirtless
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        4 years, 11 months ago

                        So who do you still own from GW1 guys? I started with Ryan/Button but traded Ryan for Steele for the Asian Cup games and brought him back. Also sold Salah for one week when City played Hudd and brought back on wildcard the next week. So have had all season, but still sold at some point albeit briefly so not counting them.

                        The two players l picked GW1 that have never left my team are...Bennett...and Robbo! The first player I chose!

                        1. how now brown cow
                          • 9 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          Robbo only

                        2. g40steve
                          • 6 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          No one Doherty since wk 3

                        3. Kno
                          • 13 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          Think all of my gw1 team has left at some point. Had the great Bissaka from 1 to wc in 34 tho

                        4. Sif
                          • 10 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          Robbo & Foster

                        5. LSK
                          • 6 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          Salah and Robertson have never left. I had Aguero gwk 1 but he has been in and out.

                      4. FPL Forward Thinker
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 5 Years
                        4 years, 11 months ago

                        Mitrovic hatty today.

                        1. TheDragon
                          • 5 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          You spelt JWP wrong

                          1. Aditya K
                            • 14 Years
                            4 years, 11 months ago

                            JWP at RWB again?

                            1. TheDragon
                              • 5 Years
                              4 years, 11 months ago

                              Hopefully not! Surely Valery plays

                      5. Peter Ouch
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 5 Years
                        4 years, 11 months ago

                        Got Bobby in on my WC as a differential for this GW and...this!

                        Thanks Fpl Gods

                      6. aries1973
                        • 12 Years
                        4 years, 11 months ago

                        What a month. 4 weeks ago, I was top 50 and after some poor / unlucky but probably poor transfers, I dropped to 1.5k. Thanks to triple captain Salah, I’m back in the top 1k. Happy Saturday everyone

                        1. Peter Ouch
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 5 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          Patience paid off Arie, well done!

                      7. DeadStarComing
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        4 years, 11 months ago

                        I love the fact Grant pipped Sturridge to the GW36 dream team for last night. Every other Liverpool starter made it 🙂

                        1. diesel001
                          • 7 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          Liverpool need to get rid of Sturridge now IMO. Also Moreno.

                        2. FPL Forward Thinker
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 5 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          I noticed that too lol

                        3. Balls of Steel
                          • 8 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          Just goes to show how far away from a regular Liverpool starting place Sturridge actually is, he was awfully selfish last night too.

                      8. Jimi
                        • 14 Years
                        4 years, 11 months ago

                        Initial plan for next season. All depends on budget of course.
                        4-5-1

                        Ederson

                        Mendy
                        Digne
                        Robbo / trent
                        Doh
                        4.0

                        Salah
                        Mane
                        Sterling
                        Siggy
                        Son / Bilva / KDB

                        Jiminez
                        4.5
                        4.5

                        1. Peter Ouch
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 5 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          WC GW 3 change 3/4 of your team haha

                        2. aries1973
                          • 12 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          Anyone out there who’s bought Everton players timed it right?
                          Like Siggi, hate Everton. Pretty much guaranteed to pick the wrong time to bring them in or transfer them out

                        3. Sif
                          • 10 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          I think that team will be about 6million over budget.
                          Missing a back up GK to so closer to 10

                          1. Eat my goal!
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 5 Years
                            4 years, 11 months ago

                            This, nearly 40mil in the first 3 mids

                          2. Andy'81
                            • 6 Years
                            4 years, 11 months ago

                            Agreed no chance you'll be affording that team next season unless the highest scoring players at their position don't get a price rise.

                        4. aries1973
                          • 12 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          How much will Sterling and Mane be next year?
                          Are we also looking at Non-rotating Liverpool defenders being priced 6.5+
                          Will the likes of Augero and Kane be priced as high next year as this?

                        5. Lovren an elevator
                          • 8 Years
                          4 years, 11 months ago

                          What about in GW 3 when mendy is out for the rest of the season?

                        6. AndyCook
                            4 years, 11 months ago

                            6.5
                            6, 5.5, 6.5, 5.5, 4
                            13, 11, 11.5, 8.5, 8.5 (cheapest one)
                            8, 4.5, 4.5

                            Probably a fair bit over thats

                            1. AndyCook
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                Probably nearly 8 million with a second keeper

                            2. IRBOX ⚽
                              • 7 Years
                              4 years, 11 months ago

                              Don’t think Doherty will be worth the outlay next season

                          • Tsparkes10
                            • 5 Years
                            4 years, 11 months ago

                            ML Rival finally used WC.

                            Its essentially :

                            Aguero, Jota, Lucas M, Kolas, Robo, Lloris Vs Vardy, Mili, Haz, Digne, TAA, Alisson.

                            1. FPL Forward Thinker
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 5 Years
                              4 years, 11 months ago

                              Great, thanks for sharing.

                              1. Tsparkes10
                                • 5 Years
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                Which would you rather have?

                            2. fusen
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 11 months ago

                              That's surprisingly equal

                              1. Tsparkes10
                                • 5 Years
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                Defo going to be tense. Only 7 points in it atm

                          • Alnair
                            • 7 Years
                            4 years, 11 months ago

                            Guys, it's not got anything to do with what people here were posting before the deadline. Sometimes they're right and sometimes they're wrong, I personally choose to ignore it all.

                            It's the fact Firmino got "injured" after the presser but before the game. It's such a rare thing that's happened and it's cost a lot of players a massive amount of points at a moment in the season where we don't have enough time to recover from bad luck.

                            There is absolutely nothing you can do about that. You can wait to make a move until the final minutes but what happens if your internet suddenly dies? What if you get a call saying someone you know has been rushed to hospital? Are we supposed to take every possible bit of bad luck into account when making transfers?

                            1. TheDragon
                              • 5 Years
                              4 years, 11 months ago

                              How many points was firminio going to score in you vision?

                              For all you know he could have blanked and so his injury may get you more points than if he had played. You’ll never know

                              1. Alnair
                                • 7 Years
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                You're right, but chances are Firmino vs Huddersfield would've been a double digit score given Mane and Salah's scores and it's unlikely that any player on our bench will outscore his probable score.

                                1. AndyCook
                                    4 years, 11 months ago

                                    I genuinely don’t think he would have scored big. His replacement got nothing and he’s been way off the pace of those two this year.

                              2. Sif
                                • 10 Years
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                Part of the game, had players injured in warm up and games called off last minute due to weather.
                                Like you say nothing you can do about that so no point stressing.

                                1. Alnair
                                  • 7 Years
                                  4 years, 11 months ago

                                  You're right, but it's still so vexing to have bad luck strike at such a key moment in the season. No time to recover...

                              3. Eat my goal!
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 5 Years
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                Yarn!

                              4. fusen
                                • 12 Years
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                I'm not sure what your point is but Firmino could have been injured in the warm up or in the second minute of the game.

                                Anyone who says FPL doesn't involve a large amount of luck is simply lying.

                                Unfortunately for you you've been bitten quite badly by it in terms of ranking relative to what you're aiming for. But everyone will have experienced something fairly similar this year. It's part and parcel of luck based games, sometimes things go your way and sometimes they don't.

                                Hopefully you have some better luck in the final two weeks

                                1. Alnair
                                  • 7 Years
                                  4 years, 11 months ago

                                  Cheers. I'm just hoping I can save what's left of the season 🙂

                            2. Mo Mané Mo Problems
                              • 9 Years
                              4 years, 11 months ago

                              Does HoF count missed seasons as last place?

                              I didn’t play the last two years. This will be bad for my HoF rating? Or does it take 80% of your last season rather than the last season?

                              1. fusen
                                • 12 Years
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                I don't know the answer but I'd hope it's be counting backwards even if you missed them. The game changes enough that missing 5 seasons and being the best in the world 6 years ago won't mean a whole lot now

                            3. fusen
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 11 months ago

                              Some real decent posts on this article about the state of FPL nowadays and what it means to finish in low double digit thousand places for ranks

                              It's what the site Can achieve when you hide rate my team posts

                            4. Tsparkes10
                              • 5 Years
                              4 years, 11 months ago

                              First season on here and not sure how I feel. Do enjoy it but lots of template etc, finding it hard to move back up. Reasonable 38k rn but was 2k at one point. Has it always been like this or?

                              1. Ask Yourself
                                • 7 Years
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                No I was stuck in one spot for weeks and weeks and weeks I have been so bored this year

                                1. Tsparkes10
                                  • 5 Years
                                  4 years, 11 months ago

                                  Reckon part of it is due to this site and you following the crowd etc so if something goes well for you then it does for everyone else?

                                  1. Ask Yourself
                                    • 7 Years
                                    4 years, 11 months ago

                                    I never follow too much what people do here but all the differentials have been getting same points as the template picks

                                    1. Tsparkes10
                                      • 5 Years
                                      4 years, 11 months ago

                                      Yup, it's difficult. I feel its essential to have certain players e.g. Mane, Jimenez and Sterling as if they explode then you'll be so fd. I take risks here and there e.g. Moura on wc and Origi in this week but hurts more often than works out

                              2. TheDragon
                                • 5 Years
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                To take next step young Jedi you must learn where to step away from the template and take calculated risk - consider ownership % you must.

                                The force is strong in you - great things next season i expect from you

                                1. Tsparkes10
                                  • 5 Years
                                  4 years, 11 months ago

                                  Hope so, ty master

                            5. Oscar Slater
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 8 Years
                              4 years, 11 months ago

                              I was just messing around with some figures there and I was surprised to see that Burnley are "Best of the Rest" since the second half of the season began on 29th December. In fact, only three teams have earned more points than them in that time (Man.City, Man. United & Liverpool) and they've got a return in three of their four games against the top six sides. Man.City absolutely horsed them 5-0 in the FA Cup of course but I still might invest 50p e/w on Burnley at 15/1 in the Draw no Bet market.

                              1. Eat my goal!
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 5 Years
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                Yep, they’ve been significantly better this side of the season!

                                Tough fixtures to close on tho

                              2. Andy'81
                                • 6 Years
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                You'd be better off investing that 50p into a mix up.

                                1. Oscar Slater
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 8 Years
                                  4 years, 11 months ago

                                  Quite probably, but personally I wouldn't be lying back smoking a cheroot without a care in the world if I had my life savings on City at 1/6 tomorrow.

                            6. FPL Forward Thinker
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 5 Years
                              4 years, 11 months ago

                              Rate my team posts should be kept to one community article and banned from other articles.

                              While I am on here please Rate my gw37 team:

                              Leno
                              TAA RBen Valery
                              Sterling Bilva Mane Erikson Son
                              Lacazette Jiménez

                              Lloris, Firmino, Duffy and Dunk

                              1 FT 0.0itb

                              1. The Polymath
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 8 Years
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                I disagree. If you don't want to respond to RMT's just ignore them. If there was a place just for RMT's I wouldn't go there, I've got better things to do.

                            7. Lucky Z
                              • 6 Years
                              4 years, 11 months ago

                              Ryan
                              TAA Bennett Valery
                              Eriksen Son Mane Sterling Pogba
                              Kun Jimenez

                              Foster Gray Bednarek Duffy

                              Best use of 2FTs with 0ITB?

                              A. Eriksen Gray => B.Silva Rashford and benching headache
                              B. Foster Eriksen => Alisson B.Silva
                              C. Other

                            8. Party time
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                Top 4 predictions?

                                1. Tsparkes10
                                  • 5 Years
                                  4 years, 11 months ago

                                  City
                                  Pool
                                  Spurs
                                  Chelsea (if win today)

                                  1. Tsparkes10
                                    • 5 Years
                                    4 years, 11 months ago

                                    Tomorrow w *

                                2. Eat my goal!
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 5 Years
                                  4 years, 11 months ago

                                  City
                                  Pool
                                  Spurs
                                  Arsenal

                                3. drughi
                                  • 14 Years
                                  4 years, 11 months ago

                                  pool
                                  city
                                  spurs
                                  Chelsea

                              • Plymouth
                                • 11 Years
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                Was at 8k ~ when the chips were going to be played (FH, WC, BB, TC), period now over and at the same exact rank. Was thinking this was the free route into top 5k, but it werent.

                                Takeaways;
                                - Dont focus exclusively on DGW players
                                - Prioritize class players over fixtures/doubles
                                - Dont focus to much on team value
                                - Stick to the plan

                                Specific occurences that made me fail the chips:
                                - Focus on fixtures from non top 6 six teams on FH (eg Bmouth, Leicester assets)
                                - Focus on squeezing in max dgw players in WC week 34 (3 Brighton, 1 Cardiff), squeezed in Camarasa instead of Mané in order to get one more DGWer, had exact funds to do Camarasa - Mane the following week, but then Deeney got injured and had to do -4
                                - When I entered DGW35, I got to tempted of KDB instead of Mané in for Camarasa (DGW bias, and a little bit bad fortune)
                                - Underestimating Citys defensive resilience by not going Laporte/Ederson and instead going heavy in mid/attack
                                - Going Llorente over Gray as Deeney replacement, that is focusing to much on team and fixture over the players actual skill-level

                                1. Hazz
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 6 Years
                                  4 years, 11 months ago

                                  I'd argue your last two points were not bad decisions in the slightest. Gray is not a good striker either.

                                  KDB was very unfortunate too.

                                  Did you keep 3 Brighton through GW35? I sold Duffy/Dunk for Yoshida Masina which totally didn't pay off. (Did allow Eriksen > Mané for free for this GW however...)

                                  1. Plymouth
                                    • 11 Years
                                    4 years, 11 months ago

                                    I kept 3 Brighton. Also starting 3 Brighton this GW. High risk.

                                    I guess allowing to get Mané was gold.

                              • Hazz
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 6 Years
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                It's so nice having the deadline on Friday night. Don't have to waste Saturday morning refreshing for news!

                              • UnitednationsXI
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 12 Years
                                4 years, 11 months ago

                                Best way forward here

                                Patricio — foster
                                Doherty Laporte Kola - Valery Duffy
                                Son Sterling Mane Pogba Jwp
                                Kun Jiménez— Gray

                                A) Jwp + Gray >> Elliot + Rashford (-4)
                                - Jiménez > Mitro in gw38
                                - Leaves a poor bench (Doherty, Duffy, Elliot) for gw38 if rotation happens

                                B) Laporte + Gray >> Shaw + Rashford (-4)
                                - Jiménez > Mitro in gw38
                                - Covers rotation for attackers in gw38 as I will have jwp on bench

                                C) Gray >> DCL/Ings and bench jwp
                                - Jiménez > Rashford in gw38 and start jwp
                                - Covers rotation for attackers in gw38 as I will have DCL on bench

                                D) Save FT and start JWP in gw37
                                - Then aim to do Doherty + Jimenez >> Lindelof + Rashford in 38