Pre-Season

Assessing the premium FPL forward options in 2019/20

There are some notable price changes among the premium forwards in Fantasy Premier League this season.

Perhaps the stand-out name is Harry Kane, who has fallen from a starting price of £12.5m in 2018/19 to £11.0m this time around.

There have been rises for Sergio Aguero (£12.0m), Marcus Rashford (£8.5m) and Callum Wilson (£8.0m) but Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (£11.0m), Alexandre Lacazette (£9.5m), Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) and Jamie Vardy (£9.0m) cost exactly what they did 12 months ago.

For the purposes of this article, we will class any striker at £8.0m or above as a premium forward.

There are ten attackers in this price bracket at the time of writing, the same number as there were ahead of 2018/19.

Three are in action for their countries in international tournaments this summer: Aguero, Firmino and Gabriel Jesus (£9.5m).

The Three Heavy-Hitters

Harry Kane scored fewer home goals (six) than 11 other FPL forwards in 2018/19

Harry Kane is the obvious place to start for this analysis given that he is the cheapest he has been since the 2015/16 season.

The Tottenham Hotspur striker endured an injury-ravaged second half of 2018/19, sitting out ten Premier League matches with two separate ankle ligament problems.

A total of 160 points represented his worst FPL score in five seasons as a first-team regular.

While injuries are of course a mitigating factor, Kane managed to score 64 more FPL points in just 100 more minutes in 2016/17.

Nevertheless, the Spurs and England forward still managed to bank 23 attacking returns last season, more than any of his teammates.

His points-per-match average of 5.71 was also the second-best among FPL forwards in 2018/19 and better than those of Aubameyang, Lacazette and Vardy.

That figure wasn’t a million miles away from the points-per-match average of 5.86 that he managed in his 29-goal campaign in 2017/18.

These returns are all relative, however, and we Fantasy managers expect a lot more from our premium assets than we do from those in the budget and mid-price brackets.

One of the things we ask of our premium attacking options is reliable and explosive returns on their own turf, given that the captain’s armband is often handed to a heavy-hitter with a home fixture.

Kane arguably fell below the standard last season, returning just one double-digit haul at home (12 points v Southampton in Gameweek 12).

The Spurs man also blanked in five of his 12 league appearances at home, averaging only 4.83 points per match at Wembley/the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium.

If he can settle into Spurs’ new stadium and maintain his output on the road (there were four double-digit hauls in away fixtures last season) then Kane may once again become the go-to premium forward option.

The £1.5m price drop certainly helps his cause, while Spurs’ opening run of home fixtures appeals massively (the Lilywhites avoid any of last season’s top ten in their first eight matches at home).

Trips to both Manchester clubs, Arsenal, Liverpool, Leicester and Everton in that time are somewhat off-putting, however.

We’ll have more on Kane in a Members’ article on Sunday.

Spurs and Arsenal’s home fixtures alternate perfectly, of course, so Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang enjoys some enticing matches on home soil when Kane faces tricky trips away.

Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang had more ‘big chances’ than any FPL asset in 2018/19

The Gabonese forward, who will have had a restful summer given that his national team failed to qualify for the Africa Cup of Nations, ended 2018/19 as the top-scoring FPL forward and the co-winner of the Golden Boot.

Despite those feats, he is still available for £11.0m.

Unai Emery’s late-season rotation roulette is perhaps one reason why Aubameyang remains steady at this price, with the Arsenal striker failing to start in six of Arsenal’s final 13 league fixtures – be it through Europa League-led tinkering or illness/injury.

It should be said, though, that Aubameyang had started all but two of Arsenal’s first 25 Premier League fixtures, with the rotation only biting hard when the Gunners reached the latter stages of the Europa League.

From Gameweek 4 onwards, Aubameyang never went more than two Premier League appearances without delivering an attacking return.

Only Kane and Aguero had better points-per-match averages than Aubameyang (5.69) among Fantasy strikers.

Of the FPL forwards who cost more than £9.0m, Aubameyang also offered the best value for money over the whole season, returning 19.0 points per million spent.

Aubameyang was, as he had been in 2017/18, clinical with his chances: his goal conversion rate of 23.4% was the second-best among FPL forwards who were regular starters.

Aguero is the same price as Raheem Sterling this season

Sergio Aguero is the most expensive FPL forward in the game in 2019/20, with his price rise to £12.0m from £11.0m matching that of Raheem Sterling’s.

The season just gone saw the Manchester City striker break the 20-goal barrier for the fifth year in a row, with his total of 201 points representing his best FPL season since 2014/15.

No FPL forward had a better rate of points per match (6.1) or banked as many attacking returns (32).

For those Fantasy bosses who like to captain a premium option with a home fixture, Aguero was a reliable asset: the Argentina international started 14 league matches at the Etihad in 2018/19, blanked in only one of them (the Gameweek 37 win over Leicester) and delivered 23 goals/assists in the process.

Aguero wasn’t nearly as effective away from home, registering only six goals and three assists.

A significant takeaway point from last season was just how “nailed” Aguero was.

When fully fit (we’re not counting the comeback match after injury against Crystal Palace in Gameweek 18), Aguero started 31 of City’s 32 Premier League fixtures.

He was, however, substituted in 23 of those games.

Much like the decision over Sadio Mane (£11.5m) and Mohamed Salah (£12.5m), it may be a case of Fantasy managers selecting one of Sterling and Aguero – rather than both – this season given the prohibitive prices of each player and, for example, the fact that premium defenders are very much en vogue at present.

READ MORE: Can De Bruyne cover Aguero and Sterling in the City attack?

Three at £9.5m

Gabriel Jesus missed 18 of his 23 ‘big chances’ last season

Gabriel Jesus could have a big say in Aguero’s game-time, of course.

The Brazilian striker registered fewer attacking returns than Dominic Calvert-Lewin (£6.0m) last season and his starting price has dropped from £10.5m to £9.5m as a result of his lack of involvement and returns in City’s title-winning side.

Jesus started only eight Premier League matches in 2018/19, with just two arriving this calendar year.

The City striker’s expected goal (xG) delta was the worst of all Premier League players last season.

The Brazil international would appear to have much to do to force his way back into Pep Guardiola and Fantasy managers’ plans but, should an injury or loss of form befall Aguero, an alternative route into the City attack for £9.5m would be tempting.

The other two players available at £9.5m, Alexandre Lacazette and Roberto Firmino, are the same price they were 12 months ago.

Alexandre Lacazette didn’t record one double-digit FPL haul at home last season despite his consistent returns

Lacazette’s total of 25 attacking returns was beaten only by Aguero, Aubameyang and Wilson among FPL forwards and no striker registered more assists than the former Lyon man (12).

The Frenchman’s achievements are all-the-more commendable given that he started only 27 Premier League fixtures, with his so-so points-per-match average (4.74) skewed somewhat by eight substitute appearances.

Double-digit hauls were few and far between, however, with none arriving after Gameweek 8.

Consistency was the key with Lacazette, though, with the France international stringing together some excellent sequences throughout the season.

Lacazette blanked in only four matches between Gameweeks 14 and 32 – two of which he played 45 minutes or fewer in.

The French forward delivered attacking returns in all nine Arsenal home fixtures between Gameweeks 18 and 35, meanwhile.

The unpredictability of starts will be enough to put many FPL managers off, despite Lacazette’s proven ability to rack up the points and Arsenal’s appealing run of first eight home matches.

Roberto Firmino has hit ten or more goals and registered eight or more assists in each of his four seasons at Liverpool

Security of starts is something Firmino can generally offer, with the Brazilian making Jurgen Klopp’s starting XI in 31 of the 34 matches he was available for (and even one of those substitute appearances came off the back of an injury).

Seven FPL forwards had better points-per-match averages than Firmino (4.71) in 2018/19 but that rate wasn’t a million miles away from the average he posted in 2017/18 (4.89).

Firmino’s problem Fantasy-wise in 2019/20 will likely be the same as it was last season, with the popularity of his teammates in defence and midfield meaning that he may well be overlooked for one of the three permitted Liverpool slots in many FPL squads.

With Mane rising steeply in price and Salah costing £3.0m more than Firmino, however, the Brazilian striker could well be an interesting differential route into the Liverpool attack that sit second in our Season Ticker from Gameweeks 1 to 8.

Firmino, like his fellow attackers, is in international action this summer but will return to England sooner than Mane and Salah, with the Copa America ending a fortnight before the Africa Cup of Nations.

Cheaper Premium Options

Over half of Jamie Vardy’s points in 2018/19 (88 of 174) arrived in the final 13 Gameweeks

Jamie Vardy is another non-mover in terms of FPL starting price and is available at £9.0m again.

Leicester’s opening fixtures are a mixed bag at best (they actually sit bottom of our Season Ticker in the first eight Gameweeks) but in Vardy they have a striker likely to be as “nailed” a starter as any other premium forward option this season.

Vardy started all of Leicester’s ten league games under Brendan Rodgers, while he was the form striker in the division in the final 13 Gameweeks with 12 goals and two assists.

Vardy turns 33 midway through this season but a restful summer and a lack of European action for the Foxes in 2019/20 will surely stand him in good stead.

Vardy’s average of 5.12 points per match last season was the fifth-best among FPL forwards but his mean under Rodgers was vastly superior: the Leicester striker averaging 7.6 points per match when playing for the former Celtic boss.

Over the course of the season, Vardy proved to be better value than any other FPL forward priced above £7.0m, with the Leicester forward returning 19.3 points per million spent.

Vardy’s goal conversion rate has always been high (2018/19 was the fourth straight year it exceeded 20%) but a relative lack of opportunities being created for him has arguably held him back from even more goals in seasons gone by: the Leicester striker scored 20 goals in 2017/18 despite only being presented with a chance every 45.8 minutes.

Under a manager as attacking as Rodgers, 2019/20 could be a prosperous year for Vardy.

Those Fantasy managers going without him in the opening eight matches will no doubt be eyeing him up for the fixture swing in Gameweek 9.

Romelu Lukaku and Marcus Rashford were separated by £4.0m in FPL 12 months ago

Marcus Rashford and Romelu Lukaku are both priced at £8.5m, though there is much speculation about the Belgian’s future and a summer exit is being touted.

Should Lukaku stay at Old Trafford then we will take a closer look at his credentials for 2019/20 but for now, our focus is on Rashford, who, like many of his teammates, has just had an up-and-down sort of season.

Struggling for attacking returns under Jose Mourinho, Rashford enjoyed a purple patch during Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s honeymoon period and banked six goals and two assists in his first eight league appearances under the Norwegian.

Rashford managed only one FPL return (a goal against Watford) in the final 13 Gameweeks of the season, however, as United’s form reverted to type.

The Red Devils start 2019/20 with matches against Chelsea and Wolves, so some FPL managers may delay a decision on the England striker until the back-end of August.

With Lukaku and Paul Pogba’s (£8.5m) futures uncertain, United are in a state of flux at present so there is much that could still change in Manchester and affect Rashford’s prospects before Gameweek 1 rolls around.

Callum Wilson delivered more attacking returns (26) in 2018/19 than he had managed in his three previous seasons combined

Apart from a Gameweek 3 clash with Manchester City, Bournemouth’s opening run of fixtures looks one of the more appealing.

The Cherries take on all three newly promoted sides in the opening nine Gameweeks and also welcome West Ham United to the Liberty Stadium.

Callum Wilson will no doubt attract attention, then, even if he has been handed a £2.0m rise from his starting price in 2018/19.

Wilson finished the season as the fifth-highest-scoring FPL forward despite missing eight of Bournemouth’s league matches, while Aguero and Aubameyang were the only players in his position to register more attacking returns.

The Cherries’ striker registered more goals (14 v 13) and assists (12 v ten) than the more celebrated Raul Jimenez (£7.5m) and had a much better points-per-match average (5.6) than the Wolves forward (4.76).

Injuries are sometimes a concern for Wilson but security of starts aren’t, with the mid-price forward starting all 29 league matches that he was fully fit for (Wilson was a substitute in Gameweek 17 having just returned from the treatment table).

Wilson’s streaky form is what sees him maligned in some quarters: in the last nine Gameweeks of the season, he banked three double-digit hauls and blanked in the other six matches.

Five of Wilson’s six returns of ten points or more were on the road, a source of frustration perhaps for those Fantasy managers who target plum home fixtures when considering a player’s worth.

Joshua King will start 2019/20 at £6.5m so is a possible cut-price alternative to Wilson in the Bournemouth attack, of course: the Norway international had outscored his strike partner in the three preceding FPL seasons and is ahead of Wilson in the spot-kick running order.

717 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    5-3-2 gw1 .5 itb
    Pickford (Steklenburg)

    VVD-Robertson-TAA-Laporte-Smith

    Maddison-Sigurdsson-Sterling (Dendocker-McGinn)

    Wilson-King (Arnautovic)

    McGinn and Arnautovic great fixtures after gw2

    1. Lingard’s Shin Guards
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Feel like you'd need another captain option other than Sterling

      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Well there is TAA or Robertson as captain options as well?

    2. *sigh*
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Like it
      I’ve also currently got the 3 Pool defenders although it’s likely to change of course.

      Tettey Picker

      Ryan Button
      TAA VVD Robertson ASmith Kelly
      Sterling KDB BSilva Brooks Tettey
      Kane(c) King Whickam

      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I was looking at Kane but his good fixture, difficult fixture put me off.
        The three city mids is very interesting.
        I did not even consider that idea.
        First time I saw that in a draft.

        1. *sigh*
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I’m just playing around with it like most. I’d lose Mo of course but it allows me the 3 Pool defenders with Sterling/Kane captains. Putting it in my Maybe folder.

  2. Cuchu
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on this team? Not too satisfied with this so any advises would be much appreciated.

    Heaton-Button
    van Dijk-Ritchie-Dunk-Ake-Reid
    Salah-Sterling-De Bruyne-Maddison-Dedoncker
    Pukki-King-Jimenez

    1. bryant
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      probably will have to sacrifice kdb to beef up that defence something like kdb->zaha, ritchie->laporte, dunk->digne or keep dunk and swap ake to save .5 for elsewhere

  3. Jay Jay Okocha
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    KDB is so tempting at 9.5, but it's extremely difficult to squeeze him in with a strong defense + Salah/Sterling:

    A) Laporte, Coleman, Siggy
    B) Mendy/Walker, Diop, KDB

    1. I Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A

    2. Pieterke30
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A

  4. bryant
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    A. 4.5 rotation(cathcart/diop) + siggy
    B. TAA/Robbo set and forget + DCL (already have VVD)

    1. bryant
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      C. TAA/Robbo + siggy but wilson/arnie->king/deeney

      1. Cuchu
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Would go with C. Robbo+Siggy+King

  5. Stevie B
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Good to go?

    Ryan, Button
    Alexander-Arnold, van Dijk, Laporte, Digne, Kelly
    Salah, Sterling, Zaha, Sigrudsson, Dendoncker
    King, Pukki, Wickham

    Thank you!

  6. Sugar Kane
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Villa fans, whats the striker situation now that abraham is out. Kodjia the next best and on pens?

    1. Dog Dirt
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      We’ve signed Wesley for a club record fee, currently just waiting on his work permit being accepted, so would expect him to start over Kodjia.

      My guess is he’ll come in at £6.0m on FPL.

      1. Sugar Kane
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers mate, early days, will keep an eye out.

  7. Super Addicks
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Ryan - Button
    TAA - Gomes - Maguire - AWB
    Salah - Bilva - Siggy
    Kane - Jota -Rashford

    Couple of gambles in defence that can be moved around closer to August?

    1. nisag17
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Don't think AWB and Bilva will be good value this season. I think Bilva plays too deep and AWB too is not just attacking enough. Maybe he becomes more attacking at Man U but a big if right now.

  8. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Do you plan your WC gw ?
    Or use it when needed?
    Or keep it as long as you can?

    1. Athletic Nasherbo
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      This is a difficult one- never plan your Wildcard.

      But the pressure of me having my wildcard after 10+ weeks is a no no.

      Haven’t had a successful first wildcard in 3 years I’ve been playing so I’m not going to worry too much about it.

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I normally try to build a team which can survive atleast till GW10, anything more is a bonus.

      Last year WC was used in GW15, before that it was used in GW6. All depends on first few performance of team.

    3. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      If I go huge at the back I’d be committing (sort of) to a lateish WC - say GW 7/8 at earliest.

      My putative back 6 is heavy on possible attacking returns (currently TAA VVD Luiz Trippier Digne Ederson) but cs are of course part of the deal. Even with my spread of teams cs may be uneven early but should almost certain produce in the short mid term. I don’t want to be stampeded if I miss in weeks 1-3

    4. SHOOTER MCGINN
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Usually plan for GW4. Enough time to get an indication of which teams are good and which aren't. And not too late to jump on any big price risers. Plus it's easier to plan for just 4 weeks at the beginning.

    5. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I usually start with a good team, then it takes about 3-5 weeks to ruin it with transfers so i have to WC back to something that looks like my original team.

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        😀

  9. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    The more I think about it the more I like the idea of Mendy/Zinchenko over Laporte - this is one of the single most important FPL issues of pre season I reckon

    Come on Pep - make it easy for us 🙂

    1. Athletic Nasherbo
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I agree. I have Mendy right now and plan to keep aslong as pre-season is kind. The thing with Laporte is that the 0.5m contributes to the fact he will play every game unlike Mendy who will be inevitably a transfer down the line.

      I think Walker is a viable option.

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I’m slipping back into the Ederson camp and looking at Spurs at 5.5.

        Laporte is very pricey at 6.5 if you try and match him against VVD. Saving a mill on Trippier if he stays and with Aurier out feels good and enables so much elsewhere.

        A fit Mendy though

        1. bryant
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          wasnt trippier losing games to walker-peters?

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Yes
      Hopefully Mendy gains some confidence back

      1. Markus
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        It's not actually totally bonkers to have both Mendy and Zinchenko as effectively a 7.5m defender likely scoring over 5ppg which is still outstanding returns. That's better than bernardo silva, more than the difference between eg ederson and Lloris, and in kdb prime territory only 2m cheaper. I mean obviously we've got to hope it becomes clear but is interesting just how much value there is there.

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Great point.
          Value is there in defense for sure !!
          I am going to invest a lot in defense this season (at least for the start of the season)

        2. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Interesting idea.

          The clear downside is Zinchenko is there for just cs no? All premiums are pricey if you’re looking just at cs. He’d look horrid value at that price esoecially as cs are so unpredictable.

          The most likely downfall of the big at the back policy imo is that both City and Liverpool will at best match last seasons cs record and possibly miss it by a fair few. City went on a horrid run mid season after all and only looked cs value late on. Liverpool could well repeat that pattern this time.

          My current strategy is to minimise cs reliance by getting 5 teams (double Pool) at the back and concentrate on midfield level attacking returns at the 6.0 level. This way I’m hopeful that I’d hit constant cs each week with Pool City Spurs Chelsea and Everton in there.

        3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I’m set on having the Merseyside fullback quartet so I unfortunately only have one def space left -

          But that’s not a bad idea for those who can - and it locks in Man City’s LB points all season as long as Delph doesn’t come into the equation

          1. Pieterke30
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            You mean both Coleman and Digne then?

            I dont trust Everton enough to do that

    3. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Nah.. both is the answer. Laporte + Mendy/Zinchenko

  10. Puyol Pants Up
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on this draft lads?

    Ederson
    Robertson, TAA, Coleman, Walker
    Salah, Siggy, Bilva, Zaha
    Vardy, Giroud

    Button, Wickham, Dendock, Reid

    1. nisag17
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Decent team. I don't like Bilva personally. But overall a good team.

  11. Differential C (Mark)
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Not expectong a lot of CS from Villa, but Targett 4.5m could be a steal from an attacking standpoint. His crossing skill is fantastic, top-half PL quality. Can chip in with a goal too. Bench option if you have the money to spare.

    1. paul1964
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I thought Targett played for Southampton - or is this a different Targett? Or has he been sold or loaned to Aston Villa,

  12. the dom 1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Hey Chelsea fans. Who is going to replace hazard in the start Xl? Giroud, Pedro or ???

  13. Amey
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Which one looks better ??
    A. Vardy + 4.5m GK + 6m Midfielder
    OR
    B. Ederson + 14m for a Striker & Midfielder

    Really want to fit Vardy but can't find balance in the team elsewhere 😕

    Team:
    Ryan,4.0
    Robbo Taa Mendy Digne Kelly
    Salah Sterling Peryera Dendonker 4.5
    Vardy King Wood

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      OR something like

      Ederson,4.0
      Robbo Taa Laporte Digne Kelly
      Salah Sterling 7.5m Dendonker 4.5
      Deulofeu King Wood

    2. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      B

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Thank you 🙂

    3. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Fraser and Zaha are really interesting to me - not least because one may well fetch up at Arsenal as a real value pick.

      Fraser is more likely to imo but also has a great week 1 and 2 as it stands. I like pairing him with Deu or King at that price.

      I just can’t get excited by any 6.0 mid or forward for that matter - right now they all look very pricey enablers. Townsend Barkley JWP and Barnes look the best. All could work

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Exactly.
        Really like Vardy but it is hampering my GK & 6th attacking option.
        Rest of the team looks good i guess.
        Agreed with 6m Striker/Midfielder problem

    4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I’m in a similar vote and am compromising with a 6.0 mid/fwd to accommodate Vardy

      I think Vardy will smash it this year, regardless of fixtures - Rodgers has everything set up around him, a la Suarez/Gerrard at Liverpool

      Having a 6.0 slot isn’t ideal, but it’s not a total disaster either - Ings for me just shades it from JWP

      For GW1 we have the advantage of unlimited FT’s so Ings injuries aren’t as much of a concern as its easy to swap him out if he is unavailable

      We Just have to hope to get 3-4 gameweeks out him, during which time the traditional 5.0-6.0 ultra bargains will hopefully have emerged & can be swapped in when the inevitable upinjury breakdown hits

      He’s Southampton’s focal point & on pens so when fit, will be value for 6.0 I reckon. JWP also is decent on PP90 & is pretty nailed now so a good alternative

      1. Pieterke30
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        What abt the arrival of Che Adams?

        Does that make Ings a rotation risk?

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I was kind of hoping Adams would be more of a wide forward role, but he could equally play up front - I think Ings is the better player though so when both fit Ings should start imo. But his fitness is always so dodgy

          But still a good compromise for a 6.0 slot

          If Adams comes in at 6.0 or below he could also be a good option

      2. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        This is where I say Luiz! Or Azpi. I really didn’t expect 5 at the back but this exactly the choice that is pushing me there

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I agree with you.
          5 at back might take some convincing to my heart though.
          5 attackers (Mo+Raz+Vardy+2*6.5m Strikers) & 5 at back

        2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah 5ATB really looks the way to go - I’ve no more room at the back though for Luiz/Azpi/Alonso unfortunately as already have TAA/Robbo/Digne/Coleman/Laporte with Salah/Sterling/Vardy/King in front of them

          1. Pieterke30
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Im attracted to options like Siggy, Zaha, Fraser,... and if Eriksen stays I want Kane.

            That’s why I can bring myself to get more than two big hitters in def right now

            1. Pieterke30
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Can’t*

            2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
              • 14 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Yeah no doubt Siggy is massively popular, and with good reason...

              I’m personally hesitant though, mostly because of his price - it’s interesting that he took 7 pens in 9 months from Jun’18 - Mar’19 and missed 4 of them (Missed 3/5 for Everton & 1/2 for Iceland)

              I just wonder with Digne dominating DFK’s & Corners and Siggy’s questionable penalty record... does it make things difficult for him, is he perhaps in danger of regressing this year? Nice fixtures to start though, but I’m going to chance my arm on the Everton full back double up instead of Siggy/Rich

              1. Pieterke30
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                Cant really trust Everton enough with CS I think. I know they had many in the last third of last season but... every goal conceded will drive u mad, man.

          2. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Salah Sterling is just pricey enough to ensure some compromise. This is where I think they’ve got the pricing correct.

            My favourite alternative is the one where I lose Mo but get Sterling Kane and Vardy in - Deu and Zaha being the makeweights

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              I'm just not feeling good about Kane since last season.
              Can't © him & stay confident tbh.
              So I'm avoiding him

              1. Pieterke30
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                Might change.

                He barely played in the new stadium

      3. Amey
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers for reply 🙂
        I really want to keep Vardy as i feel he'd be the highest scoring Striker (with Aguero)
        I think keeping a Midfielder for 6m mark is what affecting my choice i guess.

        I can do with a cheap keeper + Vardy combo. Just the 6th attacker (Midfielder) for 6m is what needed.
        Hopefully we get a great option after Preseason !

    5. Saif_LFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      2 4.5 mids don't look good. Along with Kelly.

  14. CaTriEm
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    I say this in hope rather than expectation but maybe Winston Reid could become the 4.0 defender hero we need. Granted he hasn't played since March 2018 (?) but with a good pre-season under his belt he could eventually challenge for a starting place again to partner Diop, it's only bloody Balbuena he has to displace after all.

    1. Athletic Nasherbo
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      This is very possible.

    2. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Was my choice of the £4m defenders as a 5th the way I see it he was a regular before his injury and now fit should regain his place. One to definitely monitor in preseason...

    3. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Nice call

  15. Winston.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    A. Maddison + King or...
    B. Brooks + Arnautovic ?

    1. ajones1608
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A for me, more value in them!

  16. The Overthinker
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Harryyyyyyyyyy

  17. amit1964
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    hii, what do you think?
    ryan
    taa vvd robertson
    brooks zaha sigrudsson lucas moura
    king kane aguero

    bench:button dendoncker kelly rico

    thank you

  18. Crashjct
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    A. Kane + Jorginho or Norwood?
    B. Vardy + Grealish or McNeil?
    C. Jimi + Siggi?

  19. nkhoughton
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    How's this draft?

    Fabianski
    TAA VVD Laporte AWB
    Sterling Mane Siggy
    Jota King Vardy

    Stekelenburg Kelly Romeu Stephens

  20. Markus
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    A few observations from playing with ludo's very helpful value spreadsheet. The below are with all the caveats of past performance etc, not suggesting they are the best choices going forward.

    The best value ix gets you about 61ppw Inc perma cap TAA and comes in at c.90m. It's a big at the back 532 unsurprisingly. The most expensive player is Wilson.

    To get the max ix based on ppg for 100m gets you about 66ppw Inc perma cap Sterling. It's still 532, perhaps more surprisingly this time. The most expensive player other than sterling is pogba.

    The difference in points per million between best value and best scoring is c.0.5ppw per million. This feels like the right sort of ballpark therefore for determining choices between coleman/Digne, jota/jimenez, wilson/King.

    And perhaps my own most useful conclusion is that in the max points team, everyone (bar gk) scored 4.7ppg or higher. I'd be surprised if this wasn't pretty consistent around this figure over the last few seasons. This for me becomes the cutoff for team consideration unless exception circumstances - I should be expecting the player to (be able to) deliver at or above this threshold, and a helpful gateway indicator for shortlisting (eg look at pp90 if you think someone going to get more gametime).

    This is also the test for 5atb, can you find 5 players above this threshold... In previous seasons, no, hence 343. Last season, yes, only just but depended on not having salah for pool double. This season, it all depends on the Everton boys really...

    1. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Link to the spreadsheet...please

      1. Markus
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Look in ludo's post history (it's the one before hot topic)

    2. POLSKA GOLA
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Would you have Everton defense double up or Siggy?
      I know he’s 3m more expensive

      1. POLSKA GOLA
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        ups, 2m more than Digne and 2.5m more than Coleman

      2. Markus
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Any are good options. Depends if you think everton can continue end of season clean sheet form on defenders. Siggy a good safe option which still represents good value if you're not sure.

        1. POLSKA GOLA
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Going with two EVE defense is imo much more risky until we have some data to see how their defense fares this year, they had a good run at the end of last season but
          I’m only willing to double up on Pool defense at this stage. May be tempted with EVE if they start well

      3. Winston.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Digne + Siggy at the moment here

    3. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      The more I think about it the less I trust Everton to keep up their CS form. They arent a top 6 side and Silva is historically not a manager who is good at setting up defensive sides. I would much rather double up on City and Liverpool who are by far the best defensive sides, and fill in the last spot with someone like a Spurs or Chelsea defender.

  21. Chelsea91
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Ederson
    Robbo,Laporte,TAA
    Mili,Mane(c),Siggy,Hayden/Dendoncker,
    Ageuro,King,Jimmy.

    Button Kelly,Simpson

    Good to go guys?

    1. Pilgrim62
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      The team is not balanced. I think you need to downgrade defense and upgrade mid.

      1. Chelsea91
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Hi Mate thanks for the reply, the below team good to go?

        Ederson,Krul
        TAA,VVD,Laporte,Robbo,Coleman,
        Siggy,Maddison,Mili,Hayden,Dendoncker
        King,Ageuro,Jimmy

  22. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    chance of being a regular starte for those players?

    1 - kelly
    2 - reid

    1. Chelsea91
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Kelly, because AWB went to Man u

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Ward is RB
        Kelly will play at CB

      2. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        He’ll be behind Ward at rb - historically he always was - he’s more likely t o get game time in the centre where he’s also cover.

        High probability that Palace will buy there anyway.

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah.
          Palace do have money to spend
          Huge £££ being showered on CP by United for the Beast 😉

          1. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Add in 100 mill from Arsenal (sadly you get 20 if that)!!!!!!

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Lol
              That's Sanchez salary of one year for doing nothing 😀
              Good deal for Arsenal & United & FPL players then as Zaha would be great at Arsenal (with all due respect to CP 😉 )

          2. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Gulp I just looked at the ages of the Palace backline

            PvA 28
            Sakho 29
            Tomkins 30
            Kelly 29
            Dann 32
            Ward 29

            Think we may be buying a couple.

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Absolutely. You guys should pick up 2 Defender + one winger to replace Zaha
              Sold the best one to us 🙂
              Really buzzing for AWB bro !!

              1. pingissimus
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                I’m pretty certain we’re going down the season after the one coming.

                It’s an ageing squad which suits Roy - who’ll do fine with it this season. When we lose him the new man is going to be left trying to build a wholly new team from Zaha money. Worryingly even Mili may be out as he’s about to enter the last season of his current deal.

                And if course logic dictates we get our shiny new stand in time for Champo football

                1. Amey
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 9 months ago

                  PL is very tough that's true.
                  But i think you should be able to survive as long as you get a goal scorer/creater which is needed to avoid relegation imo

                2. The Pesci challenge
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 9 months ago

                  Just like Fulham when Roy left, too many older players and hardly any youngsters coming through. If you buy this summer you’ll be alright

                  1. pingissimus
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 9 months ago

                    You’re right - it’s a worrying precedent for us Palace fans.

        2. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I like my current team, but I’ve spent up to the max, which means I have no wriggle room to make transfers.

          I usually like to leave £0.5m ITB.

          1. Nomar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Not sure why I posted this as a reply to the post about Reid and Kelly, though!

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              😛

          2. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Likewise

            Part of my planning is to see what changes are possible through rolling in week 1. If I’m prepared to take a hit in 3 - almost everything I can envisage is on the cards. Being fairly hit happy I’m cool with that.

  23. Scotty B
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Jonny Evans a decent option @5m?

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      NO

  24. Scotty B
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Ryan
    Coleman, VVD, Laporte, 4.5?*
    Salah, Siggy, Mili or Zaha?*, Sterling
    King, Vardy

    Button, Dendonker, Diop, Wickham

    Just 2 decisions to make and I think I'm done...
    1) Who best to fill the last 4.5 defender position to rotate with Diop?
    2) Zaha or Mili? Which us very tough call imo

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      'Just 2 decisions to make and I think I'm done...'

      Hahahahahahaha 😆

      1. noquarternt
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Maybe he's turned a corner

      2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        27 questions in one day. He needs to beat his own ffs record

    2. WVA
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      1. Dunk
      2. Why have Zaha or Mili when you can have Robertson or TAA for the same price?
      3. Why have King when you can have Luiz, Azpi, Alonso, Ederson, Walker etc who will score considerably more than him?

      1. Scotty B
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        1 already got Brighton keepers
        2 if only we could have 11 defenders hey

  25. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Template? Only question is who is the best player for £5.5m or less across all outfielders - currently have Coleman, but is there better?

    Ryan
    Robbo - TAA - Laporte - Digne - Coleman
    Salah - Sterling - Siggy - Zaha
    King

    Button - Dendoncker - Wickham - Greenwood

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Leicester Midfielders are good at 5.5 i guess

    2. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Probably not. I currently have D Gray but would swap him for a 5.5m def if I could. Problem is I have a 4.0 def so can't do

      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I’ve gone with Vardy instead.

        It was between him and Maddison. Decided Vardy as my premium striker was better value.

        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Got him too 🙂

          1. Nomar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Could afford both, but my 7m mid at the moment is Milli. Palace have some decent early fixtures so hoping to get some early returns from him.

            I do think Maddison is going to have a huge season, though! May change Milli to him when fixtures change.

            1. Wild Rover
              • 13 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              I meant I have Gray and Vardy.

  26. Chelsea91
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Almost confirm my team, kindly help on this guys?

    Ederson,
    Taa,Laporte,VVD
    Mili,Mane(c),Siggy,Maddison,
    Ageuro,King,Long

    Button Kelly,Hayden,Simpson.

    Anything i need to change guys?

    1. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      That’s my least optimal prime backline - it’s very cs reliant.

      Imo the lure of premium defenders is their ability to closely match similarly priced mids in attacking returns.

      Vvd Laporte seems an either or to me

      1. Chelsea91
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks mates, sorry typo error, Robbo in my team not VVD.

      2. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        This.

        Digne or Coleman needs serious consideration in any FPL defence this season.

        If you double up on Liv defence get Robbo and Trent.

        1. Chelsea91
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Thanks mate, i was considering coleman , thinking how to add in to my team, can i change mane to VVD so i will have extra 3.5 to spent on other players.

  27. pingissimus
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    What are Fix saying about their 90% correct price predictions nowadays?

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I've got a feeling FPL will have introduced new measures that will make price change predictions almost impossible

      Based on nothing at all 🙂

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Drink N Decide !!
        😀

  28. DantheManinaPan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    I'm currently really struggling to choose between

    A) Sterling + 6.5
    B) KDB + Vardy

    I'm leaning towards A for the captaincy option but Vardy looks very strong for this season...

    1. Yome
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I have B

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Sterling & Vardy both look good options this year

      Sterling in particular is basically a striker playing for the most prolific attack England has ever seen yet is classed as a mid so looks like someone that could really soar this season - he’ll get all those attacking points at +1 per goal and then another 20 point boost from clean sheets into the bargain

      Especially if Pep eases off on his habit of benching him every 6th game or so

      Vardy similarly well fed by the Leicester team - they all exist to make him score in Rodgers system it seems

    3. Fodderx4
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Out of those B but i'd try and find away to get Vardy and Sterling as would much rather captain Sterling than KDB.
      I managed to get both with this line up:

      ryan
      robbo vvd digne laporte
      salah sterling zaha jorginho
      vardy king

      button diop dendockner hayden

      I'm not that happy about having to play 1 of Jorginho, Diop or Dendockner every week but thats the price of having Vardy.

    4. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Thanks for the replies!

      I've done some tinkering and managed to get a squad with both now.

      😀

  29. Whats the Mata?
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    No cheap set and forget keeper?

    The Burnley boys.... Pope, Heaton whoever starts in preseason looks like the best pick at 4.5m for a cheap set and forget keeper.

    Although, O like the idea of having Ederson in goal plus Robbo, TAA, Digne and rotating Taylor(Burnley) / Targett(AVL) in a 433. Gives much more balamce to the team and is cheaper compared to other options...(unless one of Mendy/Zinchenko nails down a spot at lb for City)

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I prefer Brighton pair as you are guaranteed a starting keeper if first choice is out. Norwich are the only other 8.5m pairing

      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Indeed.

        But you’re playing Ryan every week. Yikes!

        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I've long since stopped bothering with keepers, expect 2pts and anything above is a bonus 🙂

  30. Fodderx4
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Which do you prefer?
    A - Fab & Coleman
    B - Ryan or other 4.5 and Digne

    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      B by a mile.

    2. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Nice name 🙂

      B

      1. Fodderx4
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers i actually like 1 playing defender and 3 fodder but not as catchy 🙂

        1. Fodderx4
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Good shout, will see if i can make good use of the 0.5m

    3. The Wanton Trader
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Why not go Ryan + Coleman?
      Save yourself 0.5... 🙂

    4. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      B. Could even go Ryan and Coleman and invest the extra £0.5m elsewhere.