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How to prepare for a Fantasy League auction

Last week we alerted you to the relaunch of Fantasy League for the 2019/20 season, with a Q&A with founder Andrew Wainstein and an introduction to the long-running auction-based game.

For those looking to master Fantasy League, we’re lucky enough to have an in-house expert – Fantasy Football Scout site user Clouseau – to help us out.

Clouseau’s previous article looked at the merits and basics of auction-based Fantasy Football based on his two decades of experience playing the Fantasy League game.

This latest feature is the first of a two-part piece which will look in more detail at how to have an effective auction – from prepping in advance through to the big night itself.

Take it away, Clouseau…

The Scene-Setter…

First of all, let me give you the context of this article. For a lot of what you’re about to read, you should put FPL from your mind. Although the advice in this piece should translate to any auction-based fantasy game, I’m looking at it from the perspective of playing Fantasy League (FL), using their traditional scoring system.

Where I talk about FL points, this is based upon three points for a goal and two points for an assist, both irrespective of the scorer’s position, and, for goalkeepers and defenders, one point for an appearance, two points for a clean sheet with -1 point for every goal conceded.

There are no bonus points and, for goalkeepers, no points for saves/penalty saves. Fortunately, there are also no minus points for cards or penalty misses. Furthermore, whilst your league can select any number of permitted transfers, I am assuming that just 20 are allowed for the course of the season, with a starting squad of 15. This puts the focus very much upon the auction rather than your ability to constantly swap players in and out.

Think Long Term!

The principal thing you need to understand if you are a veteran of FPL, but have never played the auction-style before, is that you are looking to select a squad for the full season. As a result of this, you should try to forget about fixtures and Season Tickers because, ideally, all your players will play every team home and away.

Understanding the Player List

Most of the things which make good outfield players good FPL players also make them good Fantasy League players. That’s the good news. What’s slightly less good news is that I tried to do some rudimentary comparisons and analysis to see if there was a common margin/denominator by which FPL points convert readily to FL points; there isn’t. I also specifically said outfield players because goalkeepers throw up a lot of anomalies which I will discuss a little further down.

What I’ve managed to do is break it down by category (and for the purposes of this I have amalgamated full-backs and centre-backs, which are separate categories in Fantasy League, into an amorphous group) and, based mostly on FPL’s ‘premium’ and upper-mid-range players (I may have swapped a few players in and out of the list based on expectations for the coming season), I came up with the following average margins by which FPL points convert to FL points:

Strikers (priced 8.0 and up): 2.7
Midfielders (priced 7.0 and up): 3.6
Defenders (priced 5.5 and up): 4.3
Goalkeepers (priced 5.5 and up): 5.2

Put simply, if your striker scores you 200 FPL points, you can expect them to get you around 74 FL points. However, remember that these are based on averages and the very best players will have margins lower than the average due to their scoring the majority of their points through goals, assists and clean sheets; as an example, both Sergio Aguero and Trent Alexander-Arnold had margins of 2.5. Salah and Sterling had margins of 2.9 and 3.0 respectively, due to their playing in teams which kept a lot of clean sheets and, therefore, got additional points for them in FPL, but still much lower than the mean for midfielders.

Goalkeepers are the real outliers and, with them, it’s doubly important that you understand the difference between a good FPL goalie and a good Fantasy League stopper; remember, there are no points for saves/penalty saves or bonus.

Let me use two examples from last season: Lukasz Fabianski and David de Gea. Fabianski was the fifth-highest-scoring goalkeeper in FPL with 143 points. In Fantasy League he was the 21st ‘best’ goalkeeper with a massive score of -3 points; you’d have been better off picking a non-playing goalkeeper for the season. De Gea similarly scored 120 points in FPL, making him equal-ninth best, but got -2 in FL.

With goalkeepers, notwithstanding De Gea’s horror show last season, you are best sticking to those from the top six clubs and, after that, looking to clubs you hope will keep things tight at the back, not ship a cricket score too frequently and pick up the occasional clean sheet. Don’t be tempted by keepers in sides you know will have shots rained in on them like it’s the Alamo, but where you expect them to make 25 saves a game. That will just end in tears.

Sensible Prices

My first piece talked about setting yourself reasonable maxima for players so that you don’t end up in a bidding war with someone over a player that you both ‘must have’, where you go way beyond what represents good value for money (VFM).

I’m not saying that you should always stick rigidly to your pre-auction plans, and sometimes you’ll have to sacrifice a player you really wanted in order to secure four of the other five upon which you’d set your heart, but remember, your pot of money has to get you the whole squad, not just a couple of players, and whilst there will be those you can pick up for free or for not a great deal, it’s a brave manager who goes all-in on only a handful of players and has 14+ slots to fill with the dregs.

When doing your auction prep, it’s worth thinking about how much players may go for in order that you can sketch out a potential squad for yourself. In my experience, the table below sets out the approximate costs for players by position and ‘quality’, based on % of auction budget (I’ve gone with this rather than absolute prices as different leagues will set different starting budgets):

 

The VFM point above is one I consider to be imperative in having a successful auction and you should always be conscious of the point at which no player is worth the amount you’ll have to spend. No player is guaranteed to score you a certain number of points and whilst certain players increase the likelihood of big scores, these have to be looked at relative to prices and points for other players.

Consider the top three Liverpool scorers from last season: Mohamed Salah, Andrew Robertson and Alexander-Arnold who scored 90, 82 and 75 points respectively in Fantasy League. Salah went for 28% of someone’s pot at my auction, whereas Robertson and Alexander-Arnold went for 10% and 4% respectively. Clearly that won’t happen again but I would expect Salah to be around 32% and the full-backs to be a maximum of 16% each. Based on last season’s scores, the two defenders would get you 157 points to Salah’s 90. Now, of course, this vastly oversimplifies the argument. For starters, it overlooks the fact that you’d have another player, picked up for free, to sit alongside Salah when working out how many points your 32% of budget had bought you. However, the chances of your picking up a freebie who will score you at least 67 points are very, very low. I’m not saying it can’t happen (I remain smug to this day that I picked up an unknown Michael Owen for free at the 1997/98 auction) but just bear in mind when you set yourself an eye-watering budget for a big player that you may be better off spreading the money around.

Starters vs Substitutes

Although picking players you expect to start matches is a good starting point, appreciate that it matters less in Fantasy League where there are, for example, no appearance points for midfielders and forwards. Impact subs at good clubs can easily outscore regular starters in lesser teams.

Leroy Sane is a great example of this. He currently sits in just 3% of FPL squads, reflecting his lack of certainty of starts, even though he was the 10th-highest scoring FPL midfielder. Last season in Fantasy League, he was the fifth-highest-scoring midfielder (and 18th highest in any position) and rightly went for 16% at the auction. Good players playing only 15 minutes per match can easily outscore 90 minutes per match from lesser players or those at lower-placed clubs.

Squad Structure

With Fantasy League giving you up to seven substitute berths (on the Legend package; the squad is fixed at 15 players for Novice and Pro), over which there are no positional restrictions, it can be very tempting to load up on strikers; you can, in principle, have up to ten of them with the Legend package.

A wiser move is to spread your substitutes around: for example, assuming that your starting XI is a 4-3-3 formation, having three strikers, three midfielders and a defender on your bench. There’s no perfect structure until your squad is forming but this is the sort of ballpark for which I aim in my pre-auction prep. Of course, you should keep an open mind and you should never limit yourself by enforcing a certain structure; to use an extreme example, you would never turn down the chance to get Aguero for a good price because you already had your ideal number of strikers, particularly if you were only missing a midfielder from your subs and the only options left in that category were players who only their mothers had heard of.

The caveat I give to this advice is that Fantasy Football is a game loaded with schadenfreude and, in the case of auction-based Fantasy Football, spoiling tactics. Every player you own is a player denied to everyone else. If the average number of strikers per manager is six, your taking ten means that you’ve removed four [presumably] desirable strikers from the pool who are now not available to your fellow managers.

The same can apply to goalkeepers. As you’ll see from my analysis of points by position in Fantasy League vs FPL, good goalkeepers are more of a rarity in the former than they are in the latter. Whilst a second goalkeeper (I would never advise getting a third keeper!) is rarely a boon from a points-scoring perspective, it can leave one of your opposition managers with the unpalatable choice of a goalie who will likely leak goals like a rusty bucket or one who will only ever be played by his club in League Cup games.

Caveat Emptor…..

….. or ‘buyer beware’ for those of you who aren’t lawyers and/or versed in Latin. If you spend your precious money on a player who is crocked or is halfway out of the door, you kiss that money goodbye. Therefore, even if you do very little prep in the run-up to the auction, five minutes of last-minute cramming may well save your season. Check the latest injury situation.

I’m not saying don’t aim to buy players who are currently injured for the short term (see above for ‘think long term’ with your acquisitions), but be aware with your VFM calculations that being out until the end of September means seven games will be missed, almost 20% of the total season.

Similarly, check the gossip columns. The BBC does a handy daily round-up of all the stories from the main papers and outlets, and whilst if every transfer ‘story’ came true half the players around the world would be playing for three clubs simultaneously, you should still bear them in mind.

I learned the painful way 20 years ago when I spent one-third of my auction pot on Jimmy-Floyd Hasselbaink after he’d had that stellar season with Leeds, only for him to run off to Atletico, leaving me with a gaping hole in my squad and not a penny of my huge investment returned. Back then, I’d have had to buy a paper every day to know this; nowadays, with the proliferation of news and gossip through multiple, free outlets, there’s no excuse for not knowing the latest.

Finally….. Make Lists, Lots of Lists

Lists will smooth and caress your passage to the successful end of your auction. Ok, that may be a slight exaggeration, but lists help with focus in preparation and can act as a vital crutch during the auction, particularly towards the end when your player list, printed from the Fantasy League website, is getting harder and harder to read.

Break down by position the players you really want and maybe break them down again by premium, mid and low; you’ll probably want to ensure that you get at least one from the premium column and avoid delving into the low column as much as possible.

Print out at least two copies of the player list to take with you: one to keep on top where you’ll cross off players as they are bought, and one hidden underneath (away from prying eyes) where you’ll highlight the players you want, preferably using different highlighter pens to denote must-haves, highly desirables and ‘have at a push’.

I will be looking at how to tackle the auction night itself in the not-too-distant future so watch this space.

Clouseau Serious (for which you can read \'stressy\') fantasy football fan. Have been playing the auction-based version with its unique squads (fantasyleague.com) for over 20 years but more recently branched out into FPL. Follow me on Twitter @FFSClouseau

1,994 Comments Post a Comment
  1. ZeBestee
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Ok it's still early days and still preseason games (with second team and youth getting game time), but Pool have conceded a few goals already in the games they played. TAA and Robbo are known for attacking points but going with 2 (others 3) Pool defence still really important? They have nice early games though so it can't go that bad?

    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Norwich are 100% going to score.

      Still starting with both Robbo and TAA.

      1. ZeBestee
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        100%? That's a bit exaggerating. 😛

        1. Irish Madridista ⭐
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Only because we all own two of them!

          I was indeed exaggerating, but they're a very attacking side... I'll drop it down to 95%

          1. ZeBestee
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Pool kept a CS against the mighty Barca, can easily do so against a newly promoted team imo.

    2. Rhinos
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      pre season tells you diddly squat bout their defence

  2. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    RMT please!

    Ederson

    TAA Digne Kelly

    Salah Sterling Perez Kante

    Kane King Murray

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Not worth it

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        The sacrifices made

    2. ShaunGoater123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      i'm a fan of trying to get the big 3 in and probably the way i'm going to go however i think there are a few things / questions here:
      - if kelly is starting for you, who are your sub defenders!? he's strictly a 3rd bench option imo
      - Murray is a waste. Think he'll start to get phased out plus brighton don't score many.
      - Depending on your bench i would downgrade murray and upgrade defenders. Alternatively swap murray for a similar priced forward - delo / jota - and stick with a similar structure if you don't want money in the defence.

      1. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks - who would you go with instead of Murray

        1. ShaunGoater123
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          personally i'd downgrade and upgrade the defence. But that depends on who you already have...

          1. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            downgrade to who? not many playing strikers less than 6m

            1. Ted Striker
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Chris Wood (£5.5m) scoring well in pre-season, and Burnley have no Europa to contend with this time around.

    3. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Too rigid so it lacks flexibility which is essential early on.

  3. Sterling Malory
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Is anyone considering Lacazette?

    1. ZeBestee
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I like Laca but he is a bit slower for the PL and doesn't score enough goals. Auba is the best Arsenal asset if you can stretch and he looks on good form so far.

    2. Vamos Los Celeste
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I am

  4. Roy Rovers
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Need 2 x 4.5 defenders.....any better than these?

    Taylor & Target
    Cathcart & Diop

    1. ZeBestee
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A

  5. j1ves
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts?

    A) Ederson + Bertrand/Boly
    B) Ryan + Laporte

  6. Team17
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Determined to make Salah/Sterling/Kane work....

    Pope (Button)

    TAA, VVD, Coleman, Alderweireld (Kelly)

    Salah, Sterling, Perez, Moutinho (Hayden)

    Kane, King (Wickham)

    Coleman & Alderweireld can change if Wan Bis plays well or City assets at 5.5 enter the fray.

    1. Marmalade Forest
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      How is this so much better than Mantree’s above?

      1. Marmalade Forest
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        But I think all three is too many.

        I think you need to have two 11m+ assets and time them right.

        1. Team17
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I've thought about it, and the only three i'm really scared of not having are these three (and aguero, but I think Sterling is enough).

          The only real punt is Moutinho but he had a good number of assists last season. And he can change for whichever bargain emerges (there's always one!).

          Downside is flexibility. But the rest are nailed so it might work out OK....

          1. ShaunGoater123
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            i'm also on the side of having kane sterling and salah and think this is a great team to accomodate the 3 of them.

            Don't understand people saying it's less flexible having the 3 heavy hitters? surely having them means it's easier downgrading to whoever emerges then having to try and find the cash to upgrade to them if they all fire.

            1. Team17
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              I guess it is just having the cheapest possible bench. But a regular 4.5 mid *should* be enough at the start, given everyone else is nailed. But, yeah, much easier to downgrade with these players in the squad!

              1. ShaunGoater123
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                yeah hiopefully at this stage of season having 1 playing sub is enough, and 2 is ideal.

                I've seen a few comments around having the big 3 meaning more likely to early wildcard but i'm of the opposite opinion in that by having them to start with means less likely to suddenly see a hat trick and think i need to wildcard immediately to get that player in.

                1. Team17
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 9 months ago

                  Exactly

    2. Free Hat
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Quite like it. Other option is downgrading Alderweireld to 4.5 and upgrade moutinho. But seen tot opening fixture alderweireld is good to start with.

      1. Team17
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Had Trippier in at first but could be OK, especially with Villa first.

        I've looked at 6.5 mid options too and there could be some great shouts there if I went down that route: Lanzini, Brooks especially.

        Or downgrade Alder to a 5.0 Arsenal defender (if Monreal starts) and upgrade to a 6 mid. Yarmolenko, James, Grealish could be decent punts too...

        1. Free Hat
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah indeed. Had trippier also myself 😀 also looking at Monreal or Koscielny, but recent posts about them put me off. I like the look of Pereyra at the 6m range. Good fixtures and didnt play in the Copa a lot.

    3. Maddamotha
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Pope (Button)
      TAA, VVD, Coleman, Zinchenko (Kelly)
      Sterling, Salah, Fraser (Dendocker, Hayden)
      Kane, King, Greenwood

      This is mine so far. Will know last preseason game if Greenwood starts or not.

      1. ShaunGoater123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        same as mine except:
        Ryan > Pope
        Digne > Coleman
        Perez > Fraser
        Jorginho > Hayden

    4. teneighty
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Nice! Might steal this.

  7. Liastro ⭐️
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    What would you say is the current template amongst FFS?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Ryan
      Robbo TAA Digne Laporte
      Salah Sterling Siggy Perez
      Jota King

      1. The Overthinker
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Have only 4 of those .

        Niceeeee

  8. Rhinos
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Who's up for an Origi punt? Will know after gw1 whether Greenwood will get starts or just a price drop waiting to happen. If it's the latter then maybe even punt on whoever starts for Sheff U

    1. Maddamotha
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Ole already said that whoever starts in their last preseason game, will start against Chelsea. If Greenwood starts there, its highly likely he will start against Chelsea.

      1. Rhinos
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Managers never lie

      2. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Has he said this? Seems very revealing, more so than any manager has ever said before.

        1. Rhinos
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Dear Frank if you want my gw1 lineup just watch our final friendly. Best Regards Ollie

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Exactly, I can't ever remember a manager actually saying this. I mean it's quite likely the team that plays in the last friendly will be more or less the team that starts GW1...but I've never heard a manager actually come out and confirm it (and then stick to it). So I would be interested to see the quotes.....

    2. Maddamotha
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      – Vi skal toppe laget mot AC Milan, for vi vil at de som skal spille i ligaåpningen skal bli kjent med hverandre og bygge relasjoner. Det laget vil sannsynligvis være det samme som starter den første ligakampen.

      Im a member of a Norwegian United-site, and this is what he said.

      Translated : We will start our best team against AC Milan, because we want the players playing in the opening league game to get to know each other and build relations. That team will probably be the same as the one that starts the first league game.

      So you can take it as you want. Maybe he is trying to fool Lampard? Or is he genuine? I personally believe he is telling the truth, and ofc you might see a change or two, but its very good indicator of who will start the first league game.

      1. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks for this.
        As I said, I think it's quite likely the starting 11 in the last friendly, would be the one to start the Chelsea game. But there are a few maybe's and probably's in that statement.

        Re. Greenwood - I think he's the obvious choice if you need a 4.5m striker for your bench, but anyone getting him thinking he's start every week in the PL is being more than ambitious.

        1. Maddamotha
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          No worries. I agree, he wont start every game, but if you are lucky you can maybe ride his wave for a 2-3 games if he starts of with a bang. And United's first fixtures aren't easy ones as well.

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            It's just not realistic to think a 17 year old can play PL football every week, when was the last time someone that young did it? I guess Rooney, but he had a very unique body type, Greenwood is a lot more like Ronaldo I'd say.

            I see Greenwood getting some EL games, and PL cameos, but not starting games.

            United have Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Sanchez, James, Mata, ahead of him currently...and Lukaku, I know it's likely he'll leave, but time is ticking.

            1. Maddamotha
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Yes im with you on this. Only thing is he can play RW, while all the other players say they prefer the left or the striker role. (I know the striker role is Greenwoods prefered position). Mata can also play RW, but he has no pace and he is by far best in the middle. Greenwood will get game time, but as you say, he will not start every game.

  9. pingissimus
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Should I go Salah I’m tempted by this to start the season

    4.5
    Robbo TAA Zinc Cathcart (O’Connell)
    Salah Fraser Perez McGinn (Donck)
    Kane Auba (Greenwood)

    Auba Kane dovetail beautifully and City attack isn’t so exciting until 4 maybe 3. Auba is also an interesting captain choice in 2 when Salah Sterling teams look short. Auba Fraser could become Sterling 6.5 in 3.

    An alternative is to forget the planned transfer and get KdB Laca by shaving 0.5 from one of my playing subs

    1. Rhinos
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      city average 73 goals a game v west ham

      1. The Overthinker
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Rips my team to get in Aguero

      2. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Actually no

        The recent record is close at home for City with few goals but big wins away. Could repeat of course but I’m thinking more standard home away form this time.

        1. Rhinos
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          big wins away seem more relevant given it's an away game

          1. St Pauli Walnuts
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Zing!

          2. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Only if you think that’s a set pattern.

            1. Rhinos
              • 10 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              not much point quoting stats then

              1. pingissimus
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                Or making absurd generalisation

                1. Rhinos
                  • 10 Years
                  4 years, 9 months ago

                  you said city attack not exciting i pointed out they score well at west ham. Fine if you don't want city but to say they not exciting is laughable

                  1. pingissimus
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 9 months ago

                    Laughable?

                    One fixture that could go either way and a top 6. That excite you? Or does your crystal ball tell you the away record will continue

                    1. Rhinos
                      • 10 Years
                      4 years, 9 months ago

                      they've scored 19 goals in their last 5 visits ffs, if that's not exciting i dunno what is. If you think the game will be tight then fine that's your opinion but just to gloss over that fixture with "it could go anyway" is disingenuous at best

  10. Lucackadoodledoo
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    This one is a head melter.

    A. Sterling & King
    B KDB & Vardy

    Thoughts appreciated!!!

    1. Vamos Los Celeste
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A

    2. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A for the captaincy.

    3. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Easy - the one without King

    4. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      B

      Unless King turns into Deulofeu

  11. Vamos Los Celeste
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Anybody considering Gross ?

    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah, but not sure how Brighton will fare.

    2. Flynny
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Yes. Useful price point and good opening fixtures.

    3. Rhinos
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      i like gross but just think Perez lot more exciting. If I had two 6.5mid spots up for grabs he'd be in

    4. Shiva_Destroyer
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Brighton are gross

    5. Dokdok666
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      you are the only one

  12. kime67
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Mane is the better player but salah is on pens. Can we all agree on this

    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Mane's the better player at home but away stats are a concern.

    2. Rhinos
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      good luck with that

    3. ZeBestee
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Mane a better player but not a better FPL player.

    4. Free Hat
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Certainly looked more dangerous last season imho

    5. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Mane just had his first session above 150-ish points

      Salah has 570 points in his last two seasons

      I think they've potentially priced mane out of it at 11.0

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        *11.5

    6. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Are there any stats to back up your claim?

      To put it into perspective, a great season for Mane resulted in him scoring the same amount of league goals as Salah, who had a poor season.

    7. Nico.
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      In real life? There are tons of players better than Salah, but he's a fantasy god.

  13. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Who is going with Moura for GW1?

    1. Shiva_Destroyer
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Those who don’t want to look beyond GW 2

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        And GW2 is City. Why anyone would get a player for one game is beyond me.

        1. Maddamotha
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Thats what many people said last season, and he scored a hatrick? Planning for long time ahead its not the way to go in this game imo. Ive been burnt by that many times previous seasons. If he gets a brace the first game, its well worth it.

    2. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Of course absolute bargain always outscores kane

  14. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    A) King Sterling
    B) Kane Fraser
    C) KDB Vardy

    1. Bumbaclot
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      B

    2. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      a

    3. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      CBA

    4. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A

  15. Ask Yourself
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    BBGW1 update. Avoiding players I was unsure about now these all should be nailed for the first at least (WCGW3) and pretty good. Do u agree x

    Pope (SOU) Leno (new)

    TAA (NOR) Digne (cpl) Bellerin (new) KWP (AVL) Kelly (EVE)

    Salah (NOR) Lucas (AVL) Fraser (SHU) Brooks (SHU) Pereyra (BHA)

    Auba (new) King (SHU) Origi (NOR)

    1. Rhinos
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Bellerin? Also second guessing Poch on a bb is daft

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah could be AMN if out but is in training. Poch has no choice

        1. Rhinos
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          If Aurier ruled out then fine but if it's a 'needs to be assessed' then too risky

          1. Ask Yourself
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            He gave KWP the whole game pretty much vs juve. He is being prepared whereas aurier won’t get a pre season

    2. Marmalade Forest
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Bellerin is broken and Kelly is 3rd choice

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Then I get AMN if he is I just saw a picture of him in training last week on his Twitter.
        Yes I know but the 2 first choice CBs are injured

    3. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Okay basically it will be this but I will do Bellerin (who is out for a while lol) > AMN and use the 0.5 on doing kelly > 4.5 defender hopefully from Watford or something

      1. Rhinos
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Kolsinac?

        1. Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Not as nailed as AMN and 0.5 dearer

          1. Marmalade Forest
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Much better chance of getting 15 out. Good luck for it.

            Personally, I’d want Kane over PEA for GW1, but we’d be arguing the toss.

            Same for the keeper, maybe Foster for in Leno and upgrade somewhere?

  16. Shiva_Destroyer
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Are there any cash leagues I can join?

    1. Marmalade Forest
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Someone’s been pushing a $50 buy in league. Can’t remember his name

      1. Shiva_Destroyer
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Maybe that was me. I am managing $50 buy in league but was interested in any other i can be part of

        1. Marmalade Forest
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          On the off chance you see this.

          Here you go.

          https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/20450369

    2. The Road Not Taken
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Try Marcus Oakley's league. £20 in, £5 of which goes to B'ham Children's Hospital and a Breast Cancer charity.

      He gets 100+ each season including a number of Midlands-based ex-pro footballers: Neil Emblen, Steve Claridge, Neville Southall.

      It's certainly my favourite league. A nice chairman who always pays out promptly.

      Contact is: info@fantasy-footballrus.co.uk.

  17. Bumbaclot
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Not much response on this but pretty much my last big decision so..

    A. Perez/siggy/Wilson

    Or

    B. Brooks/Maddison/vardy

    Thanks

    1. Rhinos
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      last decision lol

      1. Bumbaclot
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Haha I’m not touching it after this one promise!

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A

    3. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A

    4. Free Hat
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A. Because 3 diff teams, spreads your chances a bit

  18. mdm
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Need 0.5. Which downgrade to make:

    A. Digne -> Coleman
    B. Siggy -> Fraser
    C. TAA -> VVD

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      B

    2. The Mighty I
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A for me - depends if you have Bournemouth attacker already though.
      Wouldn’t want to be without one for those first couple of fixtures.

      1. mdm
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Have King

    3. Free Hat
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      B.

  19. The Mighty Whites
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Best 4.5 mid?

    1. Eze Really?
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Dendonker for steady points

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      There's really only one - Donkers.

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Big Leandro Willy Wonkers

  20. Sterling Malory
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    I've settled on this today..

    Foster // Ryan
    Robbo TAA Coleman // Rico Kelly
    Salah Sterling Perez Groß // Dendonker
    Wilson Delefeou Jota

    Feels quite balanced and not completely template.

    1. The Mighty I
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Like it, would probably be concerned about the bench - maybe downgrade a forward to a 4.5 and grab a nailed defender (if my maths is correct that could allow you to get Laporte)

    2. Eze Really?
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Not a bad side. I am not into rotating keepers though and I don't understand Ryan love no matter the price. Wait for the Burnley keeper to come to light and would recommend .5 on Ryan being spent on better defender cover. Moving cheep defenders on when the game is underway can be a real pain.

  21. The Mighty I
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Another day, another draft

    Ederson Button
    TAA Robbo Laporte Coleman 4.5
    Salah Sterling Perez Brooks 4.5
    Jota Deulofeu Greenwood

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I look at this and I wonder where the money has been spent. That's not a criticism of your team, most players are overpriced.

      It looks good, and fairly template-ish. Whether that's a good thing, I don't know 🙂

      1. The Mighty I
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I know what you mean, at this point it more about finding balance - maybe I should swap Ederson to a 4.5 keeper and use the spare change elsewhere.

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Or you could switch Laporte to Zinchenko (or someone else) to raise some funds. You seem 1 top player light. I think Brooks could be upgraded to a 7.5-8m mid.

    2. Eze Really?
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Keeper good but you might want another City outfield player.
      Defenders standard back 4
      Mids fairly template too but jury out on Perez.
      Forwards maybe on the cheap side but I have done the same thing.

  22. merin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Digne VVD vs Coleman Robertson. Which pair and why?

    1. Free Hat
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Both equally good honestly, but slightly A. More goal threat vs B. more assist threat

  23. Christina.
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    So where are the Kane teams?

    Must have after that goal.

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Moura partnered him and had the better goal scoring chances. In fact, Kane played a little deeper than Moura.

    2. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Check the forum from around 3pm yesterday, he was in a fair few.

    3. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Kane was playing in midfield yesterday more or less. Moura better value I reckon

  24. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    How many 4.0 defenders do you have in your team ?

    I have Kelly but tempted by Kelly and Rico

  25. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Found out I'm going to be in the states for the first few weeks of the season without access to pubs. Anyone know of something like nbc sports doing a free one month trial perhaps?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Why are you going to prison? In which case there’s only one trial you should be focusing on

      1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Hah! Hey ask yourself. New cow grav for you, same oat milk for me.

        Visiting my partner and she lives in the woods. There's Internet but bars aren't going to be possible sadly.

        1. Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Lol yes now the football season’s come around again it’s time to get more festive. Thanks for saving my life x

          Hm don’t tell anyone I said this but maybe stream it

          1. Ask Yourself
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Most importantly have a great time back with her !

            1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Thanks! It'll be good (and make a change from watching basketball...)

              Yeah, if there's no one month option I think you might be onto something.

              And yes, I like it 🙂

  26. Ci Siamo
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    I compared Sterling and KDBs stats the season before last and it was very telling.

    Really do think KDB is going to make a mockery on that 9.5m pricetag

    1. Free Hat
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Hoping for the same. 200+ season for 9.5mil aint bad!

    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Kdb is way underpriced.. Looked fully fit yesterday too. Would've been 10.5+ had he been fit last season

  27. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    @LFC

    Sadio Mane will return to the Reds after our Community Shield fixture against @ManCity.

    https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/357703-sadio-mane-s-liverpool-return-date-confirmed

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Will he start vs Norwich in that case do u think?

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        In my opinion (which means nothing), Origi starts against Norwich and Mane comes off the bench.

        1. Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Good enough for me I think the same. We’ll get news closer to the time of course hopefully Origi impresses in shield

    2. ZeBestee
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Will he start in the first gw? He is very important to the team so I reckon he will at least play a part, and since the holidays are short, he won't loose much fitness.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        See above. I think Klopp would ideally like to give him some minutes before the Super Cup final, where I would expect him to start.

        1. ZeBestee
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          The question here, will they miss him against Norwich? Or you expect them to score a couple without him? Everyone is on Salah (C)

          1. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            If we miss a player against Norwich, then we're simply not good enough.

            I think we will win comfortably and my armband is on Salah also. Mane didn't start at Bournemouth away, and Salah scored a hattrick.

            1. ZeBestee
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Nice. Let's hope he does the same this time. Cheers.

  28. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    another SalahSterlingKane team, not actually that bad

    Pope (Button)
    VVD Coleman KWP (Gibson Rico)
    Salah Sterling Fraser GroB (Dendoncker)
    Kane Deulo Origi

    1. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      how to make GroB -> Moura?

    2. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I'm really interested in any team people are trying to get Salah, Sterling, and Kane, but everyone I see just makes me realise it's just not possible.

      3 of your 5 defenders are unlikely to play (that said, if you got two rotating 4.5m it would be better)

      Origi is a problem, basically already forcing a transfer after GW1, and no one to transfer him too.

      What stands out most, is the £1m downgrade of TAA+Digne to VvD+Coleman. But if you can deal with that

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        yeah no TAA isn't ideal, not that bothered about Digne - Origi should be good for 2 weeks I think - yeah the 4.0 defenders are an unknown at this stage, but if Rico is a starter he should be 4.5 (same as Gibson)

        1. HamezMace
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Even if Origi is good for two weeks, then what? There isn't going to be anyone you want to transfer him to, and no easy way to generate the £1m you need to transfer him to a Jota/King etc.

          Hopefully a 4m defender will emerge, Gibson would be great if the Tarkowski transfer happens...Rico I've heard differing reports about, some say he's not settled in England and wants to leave, some say Howe wants to give him more time this season - hopefully pre-season answers this question.

  29. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Looking at Mo's last two seasons

    18/19 - 3200 mins, 259 points
    17/18 - 2900 mins, 303 points

    What are the odds he splits the difference this year and hits around the mid point

    280-ish points?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Probably regresses a tiny bit more

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        His goal conversion already took a huge hit from 17/18 (22.2%) to 18/19 (16.1%)

        If that 16% improves even slightly he should be good to go a little further than last season

        1. Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Interesting stats thank you

    2. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Ox is fit now and has quite a good chemistry with Salah. I can't recall the stats specifically, but Salah scores more and creates more when Ox is on the pitch. Klopp tried to shoe-horn Salah into one or 2 different positions last season which disturbed his rhythm.

      I would be expecting 25+ goals myself.

    3. Sahil.....
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I expect little less..as oxlade origi will play more this year...

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Less for all three Liverpool forwards that Origi will come in for at different times?

    4. Free Hat
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      In the case of him scoring the penalties when Milner on the bench... 280 seems about right

  30. EL_FENOMENO
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    a) Wilson, Jota, Maddy/Perez/Zaha
    b) Vardy, King, Grealish

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I think Vardy is the best pick of all of those, but B has Grealish so anything but that really.