Scout Notes

Liverpool defence under the spotlight after 3-0 defeat

There were four pre-season matches on Sunday, with Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Southampton all in action.

There were plenty of talking points from this quartet of friendlies but Liverpool’s 3-0 defeat to Napoli was the most eye-catching result and the game that our latest Scout Notes piece scrutinises first.

Liverpool 0-3 Napoli

Mohamed Salah (£12.5m), Alisson (£6.0m) and Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) are set to join up with their Liverpool colleagues ahead of Wednesday’s final pre-season friendly against Lyon.

The Reds also have a Community Shield to contest against Manchester City next Sunday, which may provide Fantasy managers with more clues as to whether these players will be ready to feature in Gameweek 1.

Speaking the day after the 3-0 defeat to Napoli, Jurgen Klopp said:

We got the information a couple of seconds ago that everybody’s fine, everybody’s coming in time, they got their flights and everything so from this afternoon on Shaq, Naby, Bobby, Mo and Alisson will be in training, which is great.

So we have the game on Wednesday but obviously, we had to learn in this pre-season that we play the games pretty much always a bit in the wrong moment, but we had to play them anyway so it was just another training session.

But of course, you would like to get a bit more from training sessions than we got for example from yesterday. We play Wednesday the game against Lyon but we have to see how we do that, we organised it months back when we thought ‘OK, they come back, they can maybe play 10, 20, 30 minutes or whatever’.

We didn’t know in that moment it will be important for Shaq and Naby as well, but apart from that we have to prepare still the season and not only the game on Sunday, but of course the game on Sunday is the first proper game of the new season and so we try to be as good prepared as possible.

As Klopp alluded to there, Xherdan Shaqiri (£6.5m) and Naby Keita (£6.0m) will also be involved after injury and international duty, although Sadio Mane (£11.5m) won’t return to training until next week.

Formation Experiment

Sunday’s game saw the continuation of the 4-1-4-1 experiment, with Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (£6.5m) and Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.5m) stationed on the flanks either side of lone striker Divock Origi (£5.5m).

It is fair to say Liverpool lacked potency in attack as a result, with the relative success story of the 2-2 draw with Sporting put into some context.

Origi couldn’t really make the ball stick up front and wasted a great chance early on when flicking an Andrew Robertson (£7.0m) cross wide.

These three players, of course, are placeholders for Mane, Salah and Firmino in the short term but should the latter two be match-fit for Norwich a week on Friday, it may be that Wijnaldum – rather than Origi – gets the nod to fill in for Mane in Gameweek 1.

Defensive Wobbles

While the front three were makeshift, Liverpool’s backline – except for goalkeeper Simon Mignolet (£4.5m) – has been at full-strength in the last two matches.

With Fabinho (£5.5m) stationed in front of the back four and Jordan Henderson (£5.5m) and James Milner (£5.5m) playing centrally in advance of the Brazilian, there was an argument to say that Liverpool’s defence was about as strong as it could possibly get against Napoli – although that would overlook the influence of Alisson and how effective Liverpool’s first-choice attacking trio is in pressing from the front.

There’ll be a legitimate concern in the Fantasy community that the Reds have now shipped five goals over their last two pre-season friendlies and ten in their last four.

While results over the summer can be ultimately meaningless when the proper business starts in August, Sunday’s 3-0 defeat to Napoli provided food for thought for those considering a double-up or more on the Liverpool defence.

Many punters would justifiably argue that Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.0m) is the best attacking right-back in the Premier League but the England international occasionally flatters to deceive at the other end of the pitch and all three of Napoli’s goals came from Liverpool’s right flank.

Lorenzo Insigne ran Alexander-Arnold ragged down Napoli’s left and had a hand in all three goals, although the Liverpool full-back wasn’t given much help by Oxlade-Chamberlain in front of him and Joel Matip (£5.5m) deserves some flak for backing off Insigne for Napoli’s first goal.

Klopp said:

We just conceded two simple goals, each ball we lost was pretty much a proper counter-attack. Napoli are good in that, but you have to defend that obviously better or you have to keep the ball or you have to have a better formation. Pretty much you need to have everything better than we had in these situations and they had more chances.

The good news is that Liverpool’s opening eight Premier League fixtures are fairly favourable and they won’t come up against a calibre of player like Insigne on too many occasions throughout 2019/20.

Nor will they likely have to do as much defending in the first few Gameweeks of this season as they have done in their four most-recent pre-season games against top-quality opposition in the form of Dortmund, Sevilla, Sporting and Napoli.

That, in turn, means that the likes of Alexander-Arnold and Robertson will be free to spend a lot more time at the other end of the pitch, where they plundered a combined 26 attacking returns between them in 2018/19.

It may simply take a few games for Liverpool’s watertight backline of last season to find their feet again but that might be enough to deter some Fantasy managers from a double-up or triple-up on the Reds’ defence in the first few Gameweeks of the season, despite the appealing fixture schedule.

Liverpool XI (4-1-4-1): Mignolet, Alexander-Arnold (Hoever 73′), Matip (Lovren 62′), Van Dijk (Van den Berg 79′), Robertson (Gomez 73′), Fabinho (Duncan 79′), Wijnaldum (Elliott 79′), Henderson (Lallana 62′), Milner (Lewis 79′), Oxlade-Chamberlain (Wilson 62′), Origi (Brewster 62′).

Arsenal 1-2 Lyon

  • Goal: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (£11.0m)
  • Assist: Henrikh Mkhitaryan (£7.0m)

Unai Emery has suggested that the injury that led to Alexandre Lacazette’s (£9.5m) 13th-minute substitution in Sunday’s Emirates Cup defeat to Lyon is not too serious.

Lacazette limped from the field of play and was later seen wearing a protective boot but Emery said the withdrawal was hopefully just precautionary:

We are thinking it’s not important, he decided with the doctor and with me that it is better to take no more risk. He tried to continue playing but I think it was better in the pre-season to take patience.

The doctor said to me he is going to check tomorrow but the thinking is that it is not important. It’s in his ankle, a sprained ankle. He will probably be assessed over the next few days – but it’s not serious.

Aubameyang Central

Lacazette’s early substitution meant that there was a change of role for Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (£11.0m), who had begun Sunday’s match on the right wing of a 4-2-3-1.

Aubameyang has impressed on the flank against Bayern Munich and Real Madrid this summer but there will be plenty owners of the Gabon international who prefer the premium FPL forward to be playing as a bona fide striker rather than out wide.

It was indeed Aubameyang who grabbed Arsenal’s only goal of the match on Sunday when he expertly redirected a fierce Henrikh Mkhitaryan (£7.0m) cross from the right flank past Anthony Lopes.

The Gabonese striker also hit the post late on.

Emery has largely favoured a 4-2-3-1 in pre-season, however, so the prospects of Aubameyang featuring centrally from Gameweek 1 onwards may hinge on Lacazette’s availability.

Formation Watch

That said, Emery used the second half of Sunday’s defeat to experiment with a different system.

From Lacazette’s departure up until half-time, Aubameyang led the line and was supported by an attacking midfield trio of Mkhitaryan, substitute Reiss Nelson and – playing in more of an advanced, ‘number ten’ role – Joe Willock.

After the break, Willock dropped back into central midfield alongside Granit Xhaka (£5.5m), while Aubameyang was joined up front by Eddie Nketiah (£4.5m) in a 4-4-2.

The formation may well be one Emery is again considering in order to get Lacazette and Aubameyang playing in tandem up front, although second-guessing the Arsenal boss’s tactics was nigh-on impossible in 2018/19.

Nketiah had several chances to extend the Gunners’ lead in the second half but couldn’t convert, although the Gunners’ young attackers dovetailed well with Aubameyang and Mkhitaryan throughout.

Absences Explained

It wasn’t a massive shock to see Mesut Ozil (£7.5m) and Sead Kolasinac (£5.5m) missing from the Arsenal squad list after the pair were caught up in an attempted car-jacking at the end of last week.

Emery said of the pair’s absence:

It’s not a good moment to play because their mind is not now 100 per cent. It’s a very personal circumstance and the most important thing now is that they can feel good, they can feel safe, they can feel calm with their family.

They came this morning but I spoke to them and decided it was best to continue their resting with their families and wait for a few days to hopefully come and start normally with the team. We are going to see each day. Tomorrow we are going to check again how they are. This morning they came here but weren’t ready to play the match.

Defending the Defence

The team with the fewest away clean sheets in the Premier League last season haven’t yet bolstered their defence over the summer and the Arsenal backline predictably looked suspect on occasion on Sunday.

Moussa Dembele escaped centre-back Calum Chambers (£4.5m) to nod Lyon level before breaching the offside trap to score the winner in the 75th minute.

Emery backed his defence after full-time, however, saying:

Obviously the result is 1-2, we lost. But I must say, in the first half I think we defended well. In the first half, we were in very good positioning, defensively we didn’t struggle and offensively we created chances. We controlled the game. In general, in the first half, I think the team worked like we want to, to take the way forward.

In the second half, maybe we lost a little bit of comfortability. In the second half, we could have felt more comfortable in the pitch but this comfortability was not possible. We were thinking maybe because we are also sometimes creating chances, we are going to win at 1-0. But really it was a surprise. They arrived in the second half for two or three times and they scored.

Defensively, I think we are doing a good balance but in the second half we lost that a little. We are going to watch, work and take more decisions about that.

Arsenal XI (4-2-3-1): Leno, Maitland-Niles (Jenkinson 76′), Chambers (Mustafi 69′), Sokratis, Monreal (Medley 86′), Xhaka, Guendouzi (Nketiah 46′), Mkhitaryan (Martinelli 69′), Willock (Ceballos 69′), Aubameyang (Burton 86′), Lacazette (Nelson 13′, John-Jules 76′).

Reading 3-4 Chelsea

  • Goals: Ross Barkley (£6.0m), Kenedy (£5.5m), Mason Mount (£6.0m) x2
  • Assists: Olivier Giroud (£7.0m), Marcos Alonso (£6.5m), Tammy Abraham (£7.0m), Michy Batshuayi (£7.0m)

Fantasy managers are not much further forward in knowing what Frank Lampard’s preferred formation and personnel will be in Gameweek 1.

The new Chelsea boss used 22 different players at Reading on Sunday and changed formation at the break, ditching the 4-2-3-1 in favour of a 4-4-2.

Speaking after the match, Lampard said:

I wouldn’t say I’ve made decisions yet in terms of selection for those early games or what the squad looks like because that’s a line and I don’t want to draw that line just yet.

There’s not a player who hasn’t pushed themselves and shown me everything but these are decisions I have to make. They’re not absolutely clear decisions but I’ll make them in due course.

Injury Update

Lampard also brought us up to speed on the Blues’ injury situation, with several of their assets currently flagged in FPL.

Asked about N’Golo Kante (£5.0m), Lampard said:

The signs are good. It was certainly the right decision for him to come home early from Japan and get the treatment he had.

He’s dipped into training with us over the last couple of days and I expect him to be training through this week to the point that he can be fully involved at the start of next week. There’s a lot more he needs to do physically without us but we’re hopeful.

While Kante may well be ready for the trip to Manchester United a week on Sunday, Callum Hudson-Odoi (£6.0m) is looking less likely to be available for Chelsea’s Premier League curtain-raiser.

Asked about the young winger, the Chelsea boss said:

He’s not training with us yet but the injury is coming on ahead of schedule. There will be a period for Callum where his injury is fine but then he needs to get fit to play in the team because it’s going to be very demanding with the way I want to play from front to back.

He’s not far away and I know he’s done everything throughout the summer with our medical team to get back quickly.

Hudson-Odoi and Willian (£7.0m) may be vying for one spot on the left wing when fully fit but Lampard says he wants both players to sign new contracts and stay in west London.

The Blues’ head coach added:

Willian and Callum are both players I want in my squad. We’ve made some good moves this pre-season with Mason Mount and Ruben Loftus-Cheek signing new contracts, two young players nailed down and the club are always trying to do that.

From a football sense, I’ve made my ideas very clear. I’m working very closely with Marina [Granovskaia] and the board because these are two players that we want to stay for sure.

Mount v Barkley

Mason Mount and Ross Barkley (both £6.0m) were responsible for three of Chelsea’s four goals on Sunday but may well be competing for one starting spot come August 11.

Barkley curled in an excellent free-kick after a foul on Olivier Giroud (£7.0m) but Mount went one better after half-time, finishing from a deflected Tammy Abraham (£7.0m) pass and then tapping in when Michy Batshuayi (£7.0m) had intercepted a poor kick out from Reading goalkeeper Sam Walker.

Barkley and Mount have briefly shared pitch-time in both a 4-2-3-1 and 4-4-2 diamond this summer but the last two friendlies have seen them kept apart in separate line-ups and Lampard hinted in his post-match comments that there could be a straight fight between the pair ahead:

You look at the goals, Ross and Mason with his two goals as well. They’re two young players, Mason is a little bit younger, but they are vying for similar positions which is great. I want competition in midfield and there were good performances all over the pitch.

Mount and Barkley are likely to be tussling for the ‘number ten’ role in whichever of the two formations Lampard settles on and the pair have had excellent pre-seasons so far, with both instrumental either side of half-time on Sunday.

The midfield picture is further complicated given that Jorginho (£5.0m) and Mateo Kovacic (£5.5m) have quietly impressed further back, while Christian Pulisic (£7.5m) is still in the early stages of being bedded in and we are yet to even see Kante, Willian, Hudson-Odoi and Ruben Loftus-Cheek (£6.5m) under their new boss.

Pedro (£7.0m), meanwhile, was used as the tip of the diamond in the second half against Reading.

Competition Up Front

Giroud, Batshuayi and Abraham were all handed 45 minutes to impress on Sunday and there isn’t a great deal to separate this trio, who are all available for £7.0m in FPL.

Giroud was given the lone striker’s role in the 4-2-3-1 set-up in the first half, with Batshuayi and Abraham paired together after the break.

All three FPL forwards were involved in a Chelsea goal at Reading, although there wasn’t much to report regarding goal threat of their own: Rotation’s Alter Ego and Twisted Saltergater both suggesting that Abraham was the most effective of the three and that Giroud doesn’t look a natural fit for Lampard’s high-energy approach.

Defensive Decisions

Chelsea didn’t convince at the back in Berkshire and were exposed against a side that scraped Championship survival in 2018/19.

Kurt Zouma (£5.0m) was given the nod alongside David Luiz (£6.0m) in Chelsea’s stronger-looking second-half team but was part of a defence that conceded twice after the break, so it remains too early to say whether he or Andreas Christensen (£5.0m) will be handed the role alongside Luiz at Old Trafford in Gameweek 1.

Marcos Alonso (£6.5m) was his usual self: bombing forward to support the visitors’ attack and registering an assist for Kenedy’s (£5.5m) fortuitous goal but leaving plenty of space in behind him for the hosts to exploit.

The battle between Alonso and Emerson Palmieri (£5.5m) is one that will perhaps drag on as it did towards the back-end of 2018/19 but Cesar Azpilicueta (£6.0m), limited as he is in attack, looks to now be Lampard’s first choice at right-back after a brief stint at centre-half earlier in the month.

Chelsea first-half XI (4-2-3-1): Caballero, Zappacosta, Christensen, Tomori, Alonso, Drinkwater, Bakayoko, Kenedy, Barkley, Pulisic, Giroud.
Chelsea second-half XI (4-4-2): Caballero (Cumming 63′), Azpilicueta, Zouma, David Luiz, Emerson, Pedro, Jorginho, Kovacic, Mount, Abraham, Batshuayi.

Feyenoord 1-3 Southampton

  • Goals: Che Adams (£6.0m), Maya Yoshida (£4.5m), Sofiane Boufal
  • Assists: James Ward-Prowse (£6.0m), Stuart Armstrong (£5.5m)

Southampton made it ten goals in three pre-season games after coming out on top in an end-to-end match in Rotterdam.

The Saints’ high, aggressive press repeatedly caused Feyenoord problems early on, with Che Adams (£6.0m) scoring his third Southampton goal when slide tackling defender Sven van Beek in the hosts’ box after just six minutes.

Nathan Redmond (£6.5m), supporting Adams and Danny Ings (£6.0m) in attack, almost repeated the trick soon after when dispossessing home goalkeeper Kenneth Vermeer but couldn’t quite apply the finishing touch to double the Saints’ lead.

Southampton were a menace up front but looked frail at the back, with Ralph Hasenhuttl opting for a three-man central defence and wing-backs in the first half.

Angus Gunn and Alex McCarthy (both £4.5m) were busy either side of half-time, with Orkun Kökcü equalising for the hosts midway through the first half.

Maya Yoshida (£4.5m) restored Southampton’s lead before the break, bundling the ball over the line after James Ward-Prowse‘s (£6.0m) direct free-kick attempt had been blocked.

Hasenhuttl made ten changes at the interval and continued his tactical experimentation by switching to a 4-2-2-2.

The Saints were more defensively solid after the break and perhaps posed less threat in attack as a result, although forgotten man Sofiane Boufal rounded off the scoring late on when calmly finishing off a pass from Stuart Armstrong (£5.5m).

Hasenhuttl said of the game:

I think the pressing was very good in the first half. We won a lot of balls and they gave us the chance to do so. On the other hand, we gave a few chances away because deep defending and long balls we didn’t defend very well. Finally, two good goals. We could have scored more often because we had a lot of chances in the first half.

Second half, it was a different shape with the younger guys. I think what they can show they showed me. We haven’t been as dominant as in the first half sometimes but it was a good test, I saw a lot of good things and a few bad things which is ok.

Oriel Romeu (£4.5m) and Jack Stephens (£4.5m) sat this game out with minor injuries, while Moussa Djenepo (£5.5m) wasn’t involved after only just returning from a post-Africa Cup of Nations breather.

Southampton XI (3-4-1-2): Gunn (McCarthy 46′), Yoshida (Hoedt 46′), Vestergaard, Bednarek (Obafemi 46′), Valery (Soares 46′), Hojbjerg (Smallbone 46′), Ward-Prowse (Reed 46′), Bertrand (Vokins 46′), Redmond (Boufal 46′), Adams (Armstrong 46′), Ings (Long 46′).

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1,812 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Pukki Party
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Any ideas how to keep money leagues interesting the whole season. Mostly casuals so 50% quit before christmas. Are monthly prices a good idea? Other suggestions?

    1. Phil's Stamps
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      It depends on how many are in it, but I think manager of the month is essential. Also I think reducing the prize money of the top tier and giving pay-outs as far down as possible, even if it's just giving people their entrance fee back, works well.

      E.g.
      25 players, 20 quid buy in (500 quid pot):
      10 quid manager of the month (September to April only) = 80 quid
      1st 160 quid
      2nd 100
      3rd 50
      4th 30
      5th 20
      6th 20
      7th 20
      8th 20

      In this league the top prices are still reasonable, a third of the players will be getting at least their money back on rankings and you still have the manager of the month to paly for even if you're trailing.

      Just my two cents, as they say.

      1. Pukki Party
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers! This is exactly what i was thinking of. We've usually only payed back money to top2 places, this way of spreading the money could keep it interesting to the end. Thanks very useful

    2. Lebowski85
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Ive run one for about 8 years.

      I do a manager of the month equivelant to the buy in. I'd say over 10months about half of them go to people outside of the top 3 paying positions.

      I also ran a small head to head cash league with 8 mates and it was brilliant. Setup a WhatsApp group and the banter Is solid.

      1. Pukki Party
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        We did h2h last year, keeps things more interesting at the top for sure. Cheers

      2. parkinsm2012
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        The one I am in is one set up at Asda head office. Even after leaving the company its that good that I have stayed in it for over 5 years. They have the following

        Manager of the month
        FA cup
        League Cup
        Champions League
        Top 4 final finish pay out.

        Good Value of 25 a year and cash prizes and lots of banter. The cups and weekly update keep it exciting and an interest

        1. Pukki Party
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Didn't quite understand, explain the cups and CL please?

    3. The Darkest Knight
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      We have money league and creator decided to put payout monthly prizes.
      and after monthly prizes of 10 months... remaining to be distributed among overall winners.

    4. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I run one with my mates and do £20 buy in which is a pot split between 1/2:/3 place. But then throughout the season everyone pays £5 per month for the monthly pot which is awarded to the person who got the most points that calendar month. Keeps most interested throughout the year and stops people giving up.

      1. Pukki Party
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers, hope monthly prices help.

    5. Arn De Gothia
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I played in one with monthly prices and i liked it. On the negative side a random player can set up hes team every month hes not winning with massive FT:s

    6. fuzzymike
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      We have a two champions league style cup competitions (mini-leagues, quarter, semi & final) with winner & runner-up prizes. Plus, manager-of-month. And prizes for the top 6 in the league.
      The cup competitions means those doing misrably in the league have a chance of winning something.

      1. Pukki Party
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Do you set up two separate leagues for this?

        1. fuzzymike
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          We set-up the cup mini leagues separately. So, it involves more work for the poor guy in charge of the league.
          Basically it's set up in a mini-league of 4/5 teams which play each other once. Gameweek points are used as results. 3 points for win, 1 draw. Top 2 of each league go thro to head-to-head until there's 2 left.

    7. Chris_H
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I have done a prize for the best individual gameweek score too - takes a little bit of time to go through at the end of the season but only maybe half an hour

  2. Whats the Mata?
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Who do y'all think will be Spurs' first choice lb this season?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Depends if they get Sessegnon or someone. Davies for the moment.

    2. Differential C (Mark)
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Bavies, probably? Heard Rose was otw out.

  3. Goalscorer Challenge
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    If you’re looking for a good game to play alongside FPL, give GoalScorer Challenge a go.

    It’s free and with only one pick to make each week, it’s so simple and quick.

    One player per week, any goals they score are added to your total - but pick carefully as you can only use each player once all season.

    International and FA Cup weeks are included to stave off the boredom of non-FPL weekends.

    Have a look at goalscorerchallenge.co.uk

  4. MysticMac17
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Who is the best 5.5 defensive option? Already have Zinchenko.

    1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Coleman

    2. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Spurs CB

    3. lugs
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Maguire if he goes to Utd would be very interesting

    4. The Darkest Knight
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      AWB

    5. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Surprised Shaw isn’t getting more interest. AWB effect probably but I’d back him for higher returns

    6. Ekip
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      PVA

    7. Tiralik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I have Coleman and Zinchenko.

  5. Azathoth
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Which one :
    a) Frazer & 6.5m for (King/Jota/Deu....)
    or
    b) Mount & Wilson

    Thanx

    1. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I think A to start the season with as it is much safer and Fraser also does not get injured unlike Wilson.

      Mount is interesting but I'd wait a bit.

    2. Lazarus Star
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      A with Jota

  6. The Darkest Knight
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    A. Azpi + King
    or
    B. Diop (or any 4.5) + Wilson

    1. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Will the 4.5 play every week? If rotating B, if 4.5 plays every week i'd go A

      1. The Darkest Knight
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        has to play everyweek... 5th is lundstram... if lundstram playing then 4.5 can be rotated.

  7. Chandler Bing
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Okay, now here's a tough one.

    A. KdB, Siggy, King

    B. Fraser, Siggy, Wilson

    C. KdB, Brooks, Wilson

    Have Perez and Sterling already.

    1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      C

    2. The Darkest Knight
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      | Eddie Howe: "David Brooks took a slight twist to his ankle I think, but hopefully he's okay."

    3. Azathoth
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      A

    4. Lazarus Star
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      B

  8. Chilli Heatwave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Any stats on what has been the most successful formation over recent years?

    1. Lebowski85
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Yes...there was a phenomenal article about a week ago. I'll try and find it for you....

        1. Hedge
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Beat me to it 🙂

      1. Chilli Heatwave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Surely the obvious answer to that is a flexible formation. From memory Every Meet the Manager pod highlighted how formation was secondary to players and fixtures.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Completely agree, esp since history doesn't account for the CityPool defence phenomenon of last year, which is likely to be repeated.

    3. avfc82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Last seasons winner used a 3-4-3 formation over 73% of the time... just saying.

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Don’t tell me he played an off trend premium forward too.

  9. HollywoodXI
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Which draft is best? Bench is fodder in both.

    A) Ryan TAA ROBBO Coleman Zinchenko A.Smith Salah Sterling Perez Kane King

    B) Ryan VVD Coleman Zinchenko A.Smith Salah Sterling SIGGY Perez Kane King

    1. Lazarus Star
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      So TAA & Robbo or VVD & Siggy

      Assume the other Mid & Def Are throw aways.

      I’d go VVD & Robbo and use the 0.5M to get a better Midfielder for your bench.

      1. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        That’s an alternative option, helpful (thanks!) If pushed, which option would you choose?

        1. Lazarus Star
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I’d go TAA & Robbo Based purely on defensive and attacking opportunity.

          LFC pre-season defenece hasn’t been great, but Mignolet has been in goal, I think Alisson will form that up.

          Everton haven’t got much Pre-Season goals, think Siggy will be a slow burner for the season.

  10. Differential C (Mark)
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    A very nice summary of the Southampton-Feyenoord game, cheers!
    Cant wait to see the high press in the league being implemented. Exciting times for Saints fans.
    And yes, I agree, our defense is too shaky to consider. Hasenhuttl's Leipzig werent renowned for defensive prowess either, so unless we sign a new CB, dont expect us to be very good at the back.

    1. The Darkest Knight
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      so, saints will be scoring lots of goals?

      1. Differential C (Mark)
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        It will certainly improve. We've been doing quite well in preseason, and Adams has been fantastic for us so far. Think we'll catch a lot of DMs/CBs offguard with the high press. Hasenhuttl likes to press opposition players into areas of the pitch where our players could trap them and win the ball in the opposition half. We may not get loads of possession, but we'll get a lots of shots.

    2. Markus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Seems like they're settling on starting ix with Adams and ings up front. Who do you reckon will be on pens, ings, Adams or someone else?

      1. Differential C (Mark)
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Ings, no question. Hasn't let us down before, I think he is firmly on pens if he stays fit.

        . . . IF he stays fit.

        Adams missed a penalty in Macau the other day, too. Which helps Ingsy's case.

        1. The Darkest Knight
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Ings and Adams both will start together?

          1. Differential C (Mark)
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Thats the idea that Ralph wants to play. We started with Redmond-Adams and Ings as a front three vs Feyenoord.

    3. tuvok
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I fancy Southampton to do really well this year too! Any inkling on who will be first choice keeper?

      1. Differential C (Mark)
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Angus Gunn, for sure. We're looking to offload one of Macca or Forster.

      2. The Wise Owl
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Gunn

      3. tuvok
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Great, cheers both

  11. FPL Diet
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Distinct lack of punts in my team currently - which option would you choice?

    A) Perez & Wilson
    B) Martial & T Abraham

    All thoughts are gratefully received

    1. Differential C (Mark)
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      A. Personally not sold on Abraham.

    2. Lazarus Star
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      A seems to be more assured on returns with Wilson and easy to swap Perez out for another 6.5 mid.

    3. theswallow1965
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I’m currently on A

  12. Lazarus Star
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    First post this season.

    I think I’ve got all but 3 places locked, but not having Sterling is worrying me slightly, but think Bilva may have greater value for money.

    A) Bilva, Siggy, Laporte (current selection)
    Or
    B) Sterling, Grealish (or other 6M Mid), 4.5 Def

    1. lugs
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      A surely

    2. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Definitely A

  13. Simply Loveleh
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    I can't commit to one or the other, help needed.....

    Kdb and king
    Or
    Wilson and fraser

    1. Lazarus Star
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Wilson & Fraser for GW1
      Monitor KDB mins

    2. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Exactly my dilemma at the moment.

    3. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I'm on KDB and King at the moment

    4. antis0cial
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      On KDB and King here

    5. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      King awful away form

  14. Hazardous1983
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Ryan (pope)
    Digne.kelly.robbo taa (lundstrom)
    Salah moura fraser sterling (dendoncker)
    Wilson jota (greenwood)

    How is this team

    1. The Senate
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      It is not a year for rotating 4.5 GKs (rotating 4.5s WAS my go-to) , perhaps do
      TAA, Ryan, Pope to VVD, 5.5GK, 4.0GK

    2. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Kelly not a starting 11 kind of player.

      Don't need two 4.5 GK IMO

      1. Hazardous1983
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Any suggeztions

  15. Mackans
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Which players do you think will get the most points this season? What would you change?

    1.Salah
    2.Sterling
    3.Mane
    4.Kane
    5.Auba
    6.Aguero
    7.Robertson
    8.Trent
    9.VVD
    10.Firmino
    11.Lacazette
    12.Vardy
    13.Eriksen
    14.Rashford
    15.KDB
    16.Pogba
    17.Wilson
    18.Sigurdsson
    19.Jimenez
    20.Son

    1. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I don't think there's even a chance that Rashford outscores KdB, Wilson and Son.

      1. Mackans
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Don’t you? Lukaku will probably get sold, and KDB & Wilson will maybe get an injury as always and Son has his starting place threatened of Lucas, or am I wrong?

        1. Chandler Bing
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I just don't rate Rashford that highly tbf and United's frontline is still up in the air. Could even be Martial or Alexis up front with Rashford out wide (or in rotation). I think Wilson and KdB are in for a big season and Son is miles ahead of Lucas at Spurs.

          1. Mackans
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Ok thanks!

    2. Dutchy
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      De bruyne will be higher imo

      1. Mackans
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah I would also think so, but I’m just scared that he will get a injury

    3. Egg noodle
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Pogba would do much better if he could just shut up and play

    4. Willllsonnn!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Don't think Mane will do as well as last year personally

    5. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Firmino and Lacs will be further down.

      KDB and Vardy further up

      Eriksen may be further down playing a deeper role

    6. Thug
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Kane, TAA, Vardy, KDB, Pogba, Son all will be higher

  16. Slitherene
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Alisson
    VvD Coleman Zinchenko Diop x
    Salah KdB Sigurdsson Zaha x
    Jimenez Wilson

    Jimenez/Diop will rotate.
    Do I get another rotation pair?

    So,
    Perez/Taylor OR Laporte/Fodder?

    1. Lebowski85
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Looks nice and balanced mate. I wouldn't rotate Jimi and Diop though.

    2. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      You want to rotate Jimenez!?

  17. Lebowski85
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Which one looks sexier?

    Digne & WanB
    Or
    Azpilicueta Coleman

    1. waldo666
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      The first one.

      1. Lebowski85
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Good...that's what I've had for a while. Cheers

    2. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Called it

  18. MysticMac17
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Best 6.0 midfielder ? Alternatively any good rotations between a 4.5 defender and 5.5 mid?

    1. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Jota from Villa

    2. Dr. Rog
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Ceballos

    3. el polako
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      There is a few on here who a creaming their pants over Callum Robinson from Sheffield United as a OOP best thing since sliced bread.

    4. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Whichever of Barkley and Mount nails it, Ceballos and Robinson for me.

    5. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Barkley/Mount
      Grealish/McGinn/Jota
      Pereyra

  19. The Senate
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Today’s tinker option is ‘should I squeeze in Sterling?’

    (A) TAA, Bernardo, Zaha, Maddison
    (B) Holebas, Sterling, Perez/Brooks, Wijnaldum

    Rest of team:
    Ederson/4.0
    Robertson Wan-BPSsaka Coleman (Lundstram)
    Salah (Dendoncker)
    Kane Jota (Greenwood)

    1. lugs
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      no, A looks much stronger

      1. The Senate
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Ta

  20. SorSy
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Does it worth to have TAA and Robo, Liverpool defence looks disastery ?
    Any ideas will be Tammy Abraham first choice over Giroud?

    1. Lebowski85
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Yes. They could easily give attacking returns a d not keep a clean sheet

      1. SorSy
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        How do you think , will Abraham be starter?

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Not a problem to have the two best defenders who operate more as attacking wingers.

  21. Egg noodle
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Top two most likely to start 4.0 goalkeepers?

    Top two most likely to start 4.0 defenders?

    Top two most likely to start 4.5 midfielders?

    Top two most likely to start 4.5 forwards?

    All answers for the long term please, looking for potential bench fodder.

    Thanks

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Gk None
      Def Maybe Lundstram. Maybe.
      Mid Dendoncker. No other.
      Str None

      Don't go there.

    2. Ekip
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      GK - none
      Def - Lundstram and Kelly
      Mid - Dendoncker and Stephens
      Fwd - none, but Greenwood and Wickham to get minutes off the bench

      1. Egg noodle
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks guys, not looking good xD

        1. Willllsonnn!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          They are these prices for a reason

      2. Ze_Austin
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Kelly isn't long term

    3. Ze_Austin
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      GK: None
      D: Lundstram, Diego Rico
      M: Dendoncker, Hayden. Extra: Stephens, Leitner
      F: Greenwood, Wickham (both expected to remain subs)

  22. eduk
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Any idea who is likely to replace Trippier at Spurs. Looks like there are three candidates, but I have no idea who is preferred?

    1. Gringo Kid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Poch rotates full-backs all the time, no value there

      1. eduk
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Good point, probably wishful thinking on my part.

    2. The Senate
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Feel like it’ll mainly be Aurier with some KWP rotation but who knows

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Prob Foyth ahead of both. Like Gringo says, don't go there!

  23. aapoman
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    A. KDB, Dunk, TAA/Robbo, VVD and Jota
    B. KDB, Dunk, TAA, Robbo and Wesley
    C. Fraser, Digne, TAA, Robbo and Jota

    1. The Senate
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      C

    2. Clueless24
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      C

  24. Dr. Rog
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Kane - a declining trend or a potential sleeper?

    Season Price Pts per 90
    2019/20 £11.00 ??
    2018/19 £12.50 5.94
    2017/18 £12.50 6.35
    2016/17 £11.00 7.99
    2015/16 £9.50 5.65
    2014/15 £5.00 6.66
    2013/14 £4.50 5.04

    Just for comparions sake 2018/9 pp90 for peers:
    Aguero (12m) 7.36
    Auba (11m) 6.78
    Laca (9.5m) 5.98
    Wilson (8m) 5.98
    Vardy (9m) 5.74
    Bobby (9.5m) 5.53

    and within the same team:
    Son (9.5m) 7.04
    Moura (7.5m) 5.57
    Eriksen (9m) 5.23
    Alli (8.5m) 4.64

    1. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I think he'll do around the same as the other 11m striker options.

      Not for me, too hard to predict hauls and blanks in recent seasons so not a reliable captain

    2. Willllsonnn!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Some good alternatives there IF they are all playing regular minutes..

      1. Dr. Rog
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Thats my conclusion - Auba is just superior for the same price, whilst Laca/Vardy/Son all offer better value. Moura is fantastic when he plays but has the least security over minutes.

        If I'm going to invest in Sp*rs this season it will probably be in the defence or Son. Also its a fantasy football rule that you dont buy Kane for August.

  25. Clueless24
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Opinions?

    Ryan Norris
    Robertson Van Dijk Coleman Digne Lundstrom
    Moura Perez Salah Richarlison Sterling
    King Andone Greenwood

    May swap Andone for a 4.5 leaving .5 on the bench for Giroud GW2 in for King

    1. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Double Everton defense not looking good with their injuries at CB and Zouma and Geuye looking like their going. I'm considering not even having one at the moment

      Otherwise looks good, apart from the fact that 451 could be risky depending on how many minutes Greenwood gets. Otherwise you're one surprise benching/injury away from only fielding 10

  26. AlsoRanLove
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Love some advice on how to strengthen my team please?

    Alisson / Ryan
    TAA / Azpi / Aurier
    Sterling / Sigi / Barkley / Bernado
    Wilson / Jota / Origi

    Bench: Dendok / Cathcart / Ward
    4m ITB

    Salah/Mane not played in pre season, don't trust Kane. What to do? KDB or Sane?

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      4m itb is pointless. Bernardo from Everton or Silva?

    2. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Allison is a waste of a Liverpool spot IMO. Other premium goalkeepers won't be far off, whereas TAA, VVD, Robertson and Salah will be way ahead of their competition.

      Same goes for Origi, won't get many minutes and uses up a Liverpool spot.

      Salah will start the season.

      Aurier will get rotated, spurs full backs always do under Porch

      If you're going premium keeper, you don't need a 4.5m backup

  27. Azzastaan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Ddg
    Vvd walker azpi coleman
    Salah Kdb Sigurdson Ozil stephens
    Auba

    Thoughts?

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Ozil and Stephens horrendous

    2. The Darkest Knight
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      different... in a wrong way

    3. Dr. Rog
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Emery has already stated that Ceballos can expect 40+ starts this season (otherwise he wouldnt have joined), and Emery/Ozil dont exactly have the best of relationships. I'd expect Ceballos to be occupying either the #8 or #10 positions, the latter obviously would be disastrous for Ozil.

    4. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Eek. Value for money is in the lower-mid priced players (midfield and forward wise). Too many premium options reduces your overall value by having to play someone like Stephens

  28. jjbwilliams
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Hi Everyone,

    Please RMT

    Pope / +4 mill bench fodder (Norris)
    Digne, TAA, LaPorte, Dunk +4.0 mil bench fodder (Kelly)
    Sterling, Salah, Fraser, Martial, +4.5 bench fodder (Hayden)
    King, Wesley, Deeney

    My thoughts with the strikers was to just go for penalty takers. This is the first year with VAR right? I am expecting penalties left right and center this season.

    What are your thoughts?

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      VAR used in other countries says not much difference. False penalties ruled out

    2. The Darkest Knight
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      your thoughts about VAR is WRONG...
      VAR doesnt mean more penalties, please check data from La Liga.

    3. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Spread markets are predicting about a 30% increase in pens. Even if this is right (as seems a bit high) it only equates to teams probably getting an extra 1 to 3 pens per season, so not really enough to base a strategy on.

    4. jjbwilliams
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Ahh interesting view on the lack of impact/negative impact VAR has on penalties. Haven't really looked into it. Just basing it off the chaos I saw at the world cup. Would yo unrecommend switching out some of the strikers then. I should say as well that squad has 0.5 mil in the bank.

  29. MysticMac17
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Has Callum Robinson been playing on the wing or up front in pre season? Looks like he has been on fire from reading the match reports

    1. Tsparkes10
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Up top and yh he's been class

  30. DeathoftheParty
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    A) Walker, Fraser, Jota
    B) Zinc, Siggy, King

    Much in it?

    1. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      A

      I'd try and find the 0.5 to go up to Laporte though. No point skimping 0.5m when it'll get you substantially more points

      1. DeathoftheParty
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Struggling to find it!

      2. DeathoftheParty
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Wilson, Laporte, Siggy instead of walker, Fraser, vardy? Any better?

        1. Hedge
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Not sure Vardy to Wilson is the downgrade to make. What's the rest of your team with A in it?

          1. DeathoftheParty
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Ryan
            TTA/VVD/Walker/Coleman
            Salah/Sterling/Fraser/Pereyra
            Vardy/Jota

            Bench is Dross.
            Thanks for the constructive chat.