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The FFS Fantasy League auction as it happened

On Saturday, I was privileged to be invited to the inaugural Fantasy Football Scout auction, organised by Fantasy League (FL).

I was further honoured to be asked to participate as well as report on the auction; this was done at the last minute, clearly as a ploy on the part of the Scout guys to ensure that I did no prep in advance whatsoever!

We were joined by, and had as auctioneer, Andrew Wainstein, the godfather of Fantasy Football and the founder of Fantasy League. Andrew’s auction-style was a little different to what I’m used to, with very long pauses before the ‘gone’, but this certainly added to the tension and meant there were a lot of last-second spoiling bids, just when people thought they could write the player’s name on their teamsheet!

We all had £100m to spend on 15 players so we got down to business…

I had written previously about being wary of rookies. What I’d never previously experienced, and had no idea how to manage, was a situation of facing with seven newbies all in the same auction.

They were FFS editor David Munday, deputy editor Neale Rigg, community manager Geoff Dance, moderator Ted / Rotation, community writer Top Marx, IT whizz Mat and Scout’s business development director Chris James.

Would prices be completely wild? Would I spend the next couple of hours permanently shaking my head? Would I come away punch-drunk and bewildered at how I’d been hustled into having a team full of bit-part players and Fantasy dross? The all-important facts are in the tables below, setting out the players each of us picked, and at what price:

The eagle-eyed amongst you will notice that not all the prices paid add up to the budget of £100m; in fact, only David spend his entire budget and whilst Mat (£96m), Will (£99m), Chris (£99m), Neale (£98m) and Geoff (£93m) came close, Ted and I were a lot more frugal, spending £87m and £81m respectively. Whilst I will talk more about what happens post-auction in a subsequent article, what this means is that I’ll have my pick of any players signed between now and the transfer window closing given that no-one will be able to outbid me, with Ted effectively getting second pick.

The good news for everyone is that, in my opinion, there’s no single stand-out squad. Most spread their money around which is the safest strategy, particularly in your first auction, but were also prepared to go big where necessary to secure the big names.

Bear in mind that these were no Fantasy Footballing slouches; I was pitting myself, unprepared, against some of the finest FPL minds around and guys who really know their football and footballers.

What they proved is that auction experience is ultimately no substitute for footballing know-how. Plus, an auction isn’t rocket science, so it really doesn’t take long to get into the swing of it.

It also didn’t take too long for the big guns to come out either. After the initial foreplay of Deulofeu, Maguire, Zaha, Sane, Maddison and Wood, Sir Mohammed of Salah was thrown out by David.

Initially there were gasps of disbelief as the bidding went up and up, but when the ‘gavel’ (the trophy, to be more accurate) came down, and he was Chris’ signing for £30m, my own view is that Chris had paid a good amount as my expectation would have been a final price of between £35m and £40m.

Straight after Salah, Harry Kane put in a not-unexpected appearance and, with a greater sense of acceptable prices, he went for a predictable £32m.

I appreciate that for a lot of you, looking at these prices will leave you scratching your heads. How on earth can Vardy cost £2m more than Aguero and only £1m less than Salah? How can KDB be almost 50% more expensive than Mane? How did Patricio cost more than Ederson, Lloris or Pickford?

This is the beauty of the auction at play. Prices are both dependent upon the quality of the player AND the point in the auction at which they are raised, both in terms of how much money has already been spent and what price reference points already exist.

For example, David raised Raheem Sterling at £5m after he had spent a big portion of his budget, so as soon as the bidding went above £8m he promptly left the table to get his lunch, leaving the others to fight to the death. He eventually ended up in Neale’s squad for £30m.

Patricio was the first goalkeeper raised (he was only the 11th player to come up) and there were another 19 picks before Pickford came up. By then, people were already being cagey with their money as a lot had gone on a lot of big guns.

I was lucky that Aguero didn’t put in an appearance until the 40th nomination, hence my getting him for a price I viewed as decent value for money (VFM), and the same was true for Firmino who was 43rd.

Conversely, Salah, Kane and Vardy were seventh, eighth and tenth respectively, hence the marginally higher prices. I’m not saying they were overpriced but, relative to their FPL prices, Vardy, Kane, KDB, Aubameyang, Sterling and Salah had the highest margins, followed by Aguero and Lacazette (reflecting the latter’s 41st position).

I shall not try to draw you all a graph but, basically, after the initial nerves have settled with the first few players, prices go crazy, then there’s a big lull, and then you can get some nutty prices towards the end as two managers with plenty of money battle for players which will complete their squad.

This happened with both Kepa and Monreal, both of whom I wanted but where Neale and Geoff needed those positions filled and where, tight git that I am, I wasn’t prepared to spend over the odds even if failing to get either player left me in a bit of a quandary.

Anyway, having had 24 hours to digest the respective squads, I decided that a bit of marking the homework was in order and so I’ve graded each manger’s defence, midfield and strikers. This is just my opinion and no doubt there will be quite a bit of disagreement, which I’m happy to debate in the comments section below.

Mat

  • Defence: A
  • Midfield: B
  • Strikers: B+

Mat has one of the finest defences in the league which I expect will be the bedrock of his points. Ederson, Azpilacueta and Van Dijk need no comment whatsoever, and Doherty was the darling of FPL last season, with a more than respectable 36 points in Fantasy League (making him the sixth highest-scoring fullback). Vertonghen’s minutes will depend upon formation and whether he is preferred over Sanchez in the Spurs backline but he could prove great value at just 3m.

Mane was surely one of the biggest bargains of the auction, helped by the fact that he was the 57th player raised. The rest of the midfield aren’t points machines (Ritchie is a midfielder in Fantasy League) but they’re also not players I’d be unhappy to own so I think Mat will do just fine with them.

We need to see what the potential arrival of Pepe will do to both Aubameyang and Lacazette’s positions and minutes but the latter could have been a snip at only two-thirds of the price of the former. Will Wilson and Jota replicate their heroics of last season? If they do, then Mat will be a very happy man.

Top Marx

  • Defence: B-
  • Midfield: A/C
  • Strikers: B+

I’m sure that if the auction were re-run, Will’s first action would be to wait and see with his goalkeeper. I’m not saying that Patricio is disastrous, but clearly Will would rather have had Ederson AND 1m extra in the bank.

From a defensive perspective, if Kolasinac can be as good defending his goal as he was his car, and with equal ability to go on the counterattack, then as a freebie Will be laughing all season. There has been plenty written about the danger of the left-back position at Man City so whilst Zinchenko is the team’s lucky mascot, surely he’ll share the spot with Angelino and, when fit, Mendy.

At centre-back, short of a Van Dijk injury, Will effectively has one Liverpool defender in Gomez and Matip, so may feel the pain of being the equivalent of a defender light for the season.

I’ve given two separate marks for midfield as Will will be praying to the footballing gods daily over the next two weeks that neither Pogba nor Eriksen are sold overseas.

With both of them staying, Will has a small but perfectly-formed midfield with Son, Pogba and Eriksen being three of the best, and Redmond could well chip in with his share of points if he continues where he left off last season.

In terms of strike-force, what Will lacks in terms of big-hitters, he more than makes up for in quantity. Rashford, King, Haller and Zaha should all start the majority of the time and any one of them could score a hatful of points.

Will, Ted and I will each be praying that our respective Chelsea strikers are the favoured one this season, and at least Batshuayi only cost one-fifth of what Ted and I paid for Abraham and Giroud. Deeney wouldn’t be my first choice of Watford strikers but he’s on penalties and would make an excellent bouncer partnership alongside Kolasinac…

Ted

  • Defence: B-
  • Midfield: B
  • Strikers: B+

Ted’s defence is a bit of a mixed bag. I like Pickford and Alderweireld, but I’m not sold on Van Aanholt and Jonny simply because I don’t see either Palace or Wolves consistently getting clean sheets, despite the attacking potential of both players.

I suspect that Duffy will either find himself permanently benched or shipped out after the first time Brighton concede a cricket score, and Lovren might be the fourth choice centreback at Liverpool now and so will be a pretty rare starter in the Premier League.

One saving grace for Ted, however, is his having the second-highest post-auction budget so he’ll be on the lookout for a top centre-back signing.

In midfield, if Pulisic steps into Hazard’s empty shoes then £7m will prove an absolute steal. Sigurdsson and Fraser are points in the bag, and Perez could prove another undervalued player from our auction. With Pereyra and Mahrez, both for free, Ted has two players capable of turning it on big time, particularly the latter.

Ted’s three As up front (Aubameyang, Abraham and Adams) are harder to quantify. We all know that Aubameyang is one of the finest goalscorers in the league, but barely a week goes by without someone questioning whether he’s certain to start, or whether he’ll be planted on the left or right wing with Lacazette through the centre.

Adams and Abraham both performed wonders in the Championship last season but that doesn’t always translate into good Premier League performances so the jury is out on both of them, particularly the latter given that Lampard has three choices to fill his single striker berth, assuming he sticks to one up top.

Chris

  • Defence: A+
  • Midfield: A
  • Strikers: B+

Of all the defences acquired on Saturday, Chris’s is probably the one I’d most like to have myself. No, you’re right, it doesn’t have a Liverpool defender, but otherwise, Chris has some of the finest full-backs and centrebacks going in Digne, AWB, Alonso, Laporte and Luiz, particularly if he’s bought the Alonso of a couple of seasons ago.

The midfield has Salah. I should probably leave it there but Maddison, Gross and Milivojevic should be solid understudies too, particularly the latter if Zaha stays at Palace and VAR awards them a couple of penalties per game.

Having the big outlay on Salah and defence inevitably meant that the strikers couldn’t be on a par with the rest of the team. However, both Jimenez and Deulofeu are great picks, Ings could be the focal point at Southampton, and Origi is often the go-to man when a goal is needed at Anfield. My thoughts on Calvert-Lewin aren’t publishable though…

Neale

  • Defence: B+
  • Midfield: A+
  • Strikers: C

Neale picked up a curate’s egg of a defence. Kepa and Robertson are nailed on and top quality. Lindelof could be a first-choice centreback at Manchester United, even if Maguire comes in although two new centre-back signings could see him relegated to the bench.

The cautionary notes are around Zouma, Pereira and O’Connell, particularly the latter. Zouma back to Everton would be great for Neale but, if he stays at Chelsea, will he get much game time? Pereira was a great FPL player and got decent FL points but Leicester wouldn’t be one of my first choices for defenders, especially given Rodgers’s attacking sensibilities.

All I will say about O’Connell is that he’s a Sheffield United defender and no matter how good a player he may be, he could still suffer as a Fantasy League asset if the Blades struggle to replicate the defensive strengths of their time in the Championship.

Neale has a formidable midfield, led by Sterling and De Bruyne, and ably assisted by Anderson. Ozil, for free, could be one of the bargains of the auction if he rediscovers his form, and Neale himself wrote recently about both Jota (Villa) and Trossard, with probably the latter having the greater potential after his form last season in Belgium.

Where Neale will struggle is up front. For starters, having only two strikers is not a strategy I would adopt myself. Although Wood is a proven goalscorer, Joelinton is a completely unknown quantity at a club everyone is touting to struggle after losing Benitez.

Also, Burnley and Newcastle hardly set the pulse racing. Overall, a lack of firepower in the striking department may be Neale’s undoing in his quest for the title but expect to see him in the reckoning.

David

  • Defence: A-
  • Midfield: B
  • Strikers: B+

It’s very difficult to assess David’s defence because it’s such a mixed bag. In TAA and Coleman, he has two of the finest full-backs in the land. Lloris is a great goalie and if Stones secures a spot in the City defence, David will be laughing.

Where I’m less convinced is with Boly, Tarkowski, Chilwell and Walker-Peters. The last of that group could be great every other week if Spurs fail to replace Trippier but we all know Poch’s love of rotating full-backs. After that, I’m not in love with Wolves, Burnley and Leicester defenders; all can have their day, and probably won’t ship tonnes of goals, but I wouldn’t expect any of them to score particularly highly in Fantasy League.

On paper, the quartet of Sane, Richarlison, Martial and James could be an amazing midfield. The problem is, Richarlison aside, that the chances of all four playing week in, week out, is slim to none.

Although Fantasy League is far less about having certain starters than FPL, and one of my previous articles talked up Leroy Sane as a great example of an impact sub, I feel that David will still need more points coming from midfield than he is likely to get most of the time.

There’s also still the risk that Sane could be moving to Germany, which would be highly unfortunate and leave a gaping hole in David’s team.

Because of the overload in defence, David had relatively little room for strikers and I feel that might be his undoing. I love Jamie Vardy and I’m sure he will be fantastic for David, but Benteke and Barnes don’t really get my juices flowing.

Geoff

  • Defence: A
  • Midfield: B
  • Strikers: A-

Geoff has probably the joint-strongest defence in the league, particularly if Maguire moves to a Manchester United. A line-up of first-choice players from Liverpool, Manchester City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United needs no further commentary.

Midfield is undoubtedly Geoff’s weakest area. Bernardo Silva is a Pep favourite but that doesn’t necessarily translate into big points; Geoff will be crossing everything that this is his season to start banging in the goals and racking up his fair share of assists.

Moura and Pedro, on their day, are great players and capable of doing Geoff proud, but there’s no certainty of starts, particularly for the former. Iwobi is another yet to show his true potential and Trezeguet is a completely unknown quantity.

The injured Hudson-Odoi could eventually be a bargain but it’s a packed Chelsea midfield and it’s far from clear how Lampard will have them lining up.

Up-front, Geoff paid big for the assured quality of Harry Kane. After that, he spent a further one-fifth of his budget on the main striker from each of the three promoted clubs.

Whilst history tends to show that one of the promoted teams has a prolific striker, it’s rare that it’s all three of them so Geoff has gone out on a limb and will hoping that a new precedent is set this season.

Clouseau

Why no grading of my own team? Principally, it’s because it isn’t that easy to be objective about your own picks. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t happy with my strikeforce, despite the fact that Aguero AND Jesus basically amount to a single City striker.

I believe that Firmino should do better from a fantasy perspective this season than he did last time out. If Giroud is the preferred striker at Chelsea, my 5m will be a snip, and Glenn Murray is as Glenn Murray does.

The midfield is solid even if it isn’t earth-shattering. Vrancic could easily make way for the biggest signing of the remaining transfer window. Fornals is a punt but, like Vrancic, was a free punt. And in Alli, Tielemans and Willian, I’m reasonably happy.

On the defensive front, my failure to get Kepa meant that I had no choice but to double down on Manchester United by getting De Gea, having picked up Shaw early on.

Similarly, missing out on Monreal meant that Maitland-Niles was literally the only fullback left on the list who I could both pick up (I couldn’t go for Mendy or Angelino due to already having Aguero and Jesus) and who I felt was reasonably likely to play, at least until Bellerin returns from injury.

I’ve always been loathe to spend money on my defence, often to my detriment, but I suppose that two Man Utd, one Spurs, one Everton and one Arsenal for 4m isn’t something about which I should complain.

Final Thoughts

I wrote recently ‘Beware the Rookie’, mainly because in not knowing what they’re doing, they can mess up your own plans. I was facing seven total rookies on Saturday and the plans I devised in the five minutes notice I got that I’d be participating got completely messed up, not because the guys were clueless, but because they were really good!

All the strategies I set out in my previous articles were used to good effect and I dread to think how good they will all be next season with the experience of an auction and a full season under their belts.

All I can say is it was enormous fun and I’m very much looking forward to a closely-fought season with plenty of competition and banter; I also look forward to you, the readers, joining in with the latter as I bring you regular updates as the season progresses.

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Clouseau Serious (for which you can read \'stressy\') fantasy football fan. Have been playing the auction-based version with its unique squads (fantasyleague.com) for over 20 years but more recently branched out into FPL. Follow me on Twitter @FFSClouseau

1,089 Comments Post a Comment
  1. tafrère
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Guilbert is in competition for the right back spot at Villa with El Mohamady right ?

    1. WVA
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Yep

    2. chilli con kone
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Yes but I’d say it’s his too lose with the full preseason and form

      1. tafrère
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers

    3. avfc82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Correct - keep an eye on the Leipzig starting 11, that should give us a clue as to who's set to start vs Spurs.

  2. Werner Bremen
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    After days still on this team. Zinchenko is qustionable, but the rest looks fine:

    Pope (Button)
    VVD, TAA, Digne, Zinchenko (Lundstram)
    Salah, Sterling, Siggy, Perez (Dendonky)
    Wilson, Deulofeu (Greenwood)

    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Pope is injury prone, you will have no Gk sometime

  3. K.Jabba 88
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    How much do we think Kean will be at Everton?

    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      He is nothing special from what I watch on youtube highlight, very average player, I think he will be the biggest fail this season

      1. LarryDuff
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Youtube highlights lol he's barely played at all

      2. K.Jabba 88
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Oh. Not seen much of him. Was just interested because of the fixtures. Maybe one to wait & see how he performs in the early games

      3. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        lol@the overrating here because people want their bad picks Digne and Coleman to succeed

        1. Robson-Canoe
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Do you really think they're bad picks?

            1. Brosstan
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              Lol, hes not a member

            2. The Big Fella
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              Digne's stats are great plus he is on set pieces. The problem is the rest of the defence, or lack thereof

          1. Brosstan
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Well I dont have any of them in my team. Funny how people will first pick a player and then justify it by any means necessary. This Kean fella wouldnt be half as hyped as he is if people didnt have Digne and Coleman in their teams hoping Kean will be better at finishing their crosses than Donkey Calvert Lewin

              1. Brosstan
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 8 months ago

                Maguire with practically the same amount attempts on target. Wouldnt surprise me to learn that DCL used to play as a CB in his youth given how good he is to head off target.

                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  4 years, 8 months ago

                  Blimey, but you are sour. Well, suit yourself. 😀

                2. SweepaKeepa
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 8 months ago

                  According to Statsbomb article, heading is not exactly Kean’s forté. So not sure of the strategy when playing with cross-monsters Digne and Coleman.

            1. I Member
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              Moise Kean has had a ton of hype surrounding him long before this season of FPL opened and long before Everton showed interest in signing him.

              1. Brosstan
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 8 months ago

                Some hype because hes young, not because hes particularly good yet

      4. I Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Judging a footballer based on YouTube highlights is laughable.

    2. chilli con kone
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Probably around 7.5 I would guess. Slightly overpriced

    3. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      7.5 or 7.0

  4. ShaunGoater123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    who do you prefer as set and forget Heaton or Ryan?

    Rest of team looks like this:

    4.5

    VVD / TAA / Digne / Zinchenko

    Salah / Sterling / Perez

    Kane / King / Greenwood

    Button / Norwood / Dendonker / 4.0

    1. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Not much in it I suspect, probably heaton

  5. Tshelby
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    My first draft of the season :

    Gunn,Pope
    Digne, VvD, Laporte, Dunk, Lundstram
    Salah, Sterling, Perez, Trossard, Dendoncker
    Kane, King, Greenwood

    Any good?

    1. Robson-Canoe
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      If you get rid of the GK rotation and downgrade Laporte to Walker/Zinch, you can get someone better than Dunk. Otherwise it looks very similar to my team.

      1. Tshelby
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Scared that Zinch isn't nailed enough. Who do you play as goalie? Thanks for the reply!

        1. Robson-Canoe
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I'm starting with Ryan because of his first 6 fixtures and nailedness. I can always change him if another option emerges.
          Zinch nailedness is a concern, I guess we'll know more after the Community Shield game.

          1. Tshelby
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Cheers thanks!

        2. Maddi Son
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I think Walker is a good half-way house. He consistently gets 2,700 minutes/season, that's good enough for me.

    2. WVA
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      It shows, one of Gunn or Pope is plenty

  6. Kimmich
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Opinions appreciated.

    Henderson
    Van Dijk - Zinchenko - Digne
    Salah - de Bruyne - Martial - Fraser - Perez
    Kane - Adams

    McGovern - Guilbert - Lundstram - Greenwood

    1. Maddi Son
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      This team is different but I actually really like it. Good luck.

      1. Kimmich
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Thank you, Goodluck also.

    2. Robson-Canoe
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Look very good, I like it. No Liv fullback and no Sterling could obviously hurt but otherwise great squad.

      1. Kimmich
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah Sterling meant I’ve had to put Taylor/6.5 in over Digne and Martial. Would rather put my money on the latter returning more.

    3. Atters
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Quite similar to mine. I've gone for Sterling, king and Trossard in a 343 instead of Kdb, Martial and Fraser. Also personally prefer Robbo & Coleman over Digne & Van Dijk. Good picks though!

  7. cheeky moses
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    A) Ryan, Wilson
    B) Ederson, Wood

    1. LarryDuff
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      A

  8. Roy Rovers
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Anything need changing?

    Heaton
    TAA. Laporte. AWB.
    Salah. KDB. Sterling. Perez. Doucoure.
    Jota. King.

    Woodman. Greenwood. Guilbert. Lundstram.

    1. Robson-Canoe
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Not a fan of Doucouré as an FPL asset tbh

  9. Scheister
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    A) Dunk, Brooks, Sterling
    B) Digne, Fraser, KDB

    Cheers

    1. Kizza_10
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      A

    2. cemal
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      B

    3. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      B

  10. Kizza_10
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Which do you prefer ?

    A. Ederson, Azpi, Fraser

    B. Ryan, Wan B, KDB

  11. tafrère
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Is Lundstram nailed ?

    1. avfc82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      No, but it's looking increasingly likely he could start GW1.

    2. Andy'81
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      No, but he's looking the best bet from the 4m rated defenders.

      1. cemal
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        what about Hanley from Norwich?

        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Nowhere near Prem level. Even if he starts he will soon be dropped

      2. cpo001
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        I'd take Kelly or Rico

        1. Andy'81
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Can't see Palace not buying another RB before the window shuts but I'm not too clued on Rico, either way you'll get what you pay for at 4m as we're very unlikely to get another AWB.

          1. Teddy Brewski
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Kelly won't play RB. Ward will play. Kelly is 4th choice CB so will only play if 2 CB's are injured which is looking less likely now

            1. Andy'81
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              That makes him sound an even worse pick. Cheers

  12. EL_FENOMENO
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    a) VVD + Zinchenko
    b) Robbo + Zouma/other 5m def

  13. cemal
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on this team? Be harsh

    Ryan
    TAA VVD Zinchenko Digne
    Salah Sterling BSilva Sigurdsson
    Deulofeu King
    (Button, Hanley, Guendouzi, Greenwood)

    1. Werner Bremen
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Bilva too much for me, with Sterling already in there. Better get Fraser or Perez.

      1. cemal
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        I hardly see him in any teams, I don’t get it. He had a great season last year will be as much of a guaranteed starter as Aguero or KDB imo and only 8m! I can’t not have him

    2. cpo001
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I'm moving away from Everton defence given loss of Gueye and Keane out and Zouma not re-signing.

      Zinchenko is a risk. Wouldn't take Bilva at the price.

      Downgrade Bilva to a 7mil and upgrade Delofeu to Jimenez.

      Take Walker over Zinchenko

      Sell Digne and take a cheaper defender and invest either towards the attack, upgrade the bench or upgrade the GK

    3. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Not a fan of the 6.5 forwards template call!

      Sterling didn’t outperform Kane Kun last time out. A single logical transfer in 23 when Kane got injured meant a deadbeat at 234 points. Equal value in other words can be found up top.

      There’s real value imo in having money up front for hot premium strikers who can offer captainancy.

      King I dislike as he only really offers value with pens - something I distrust.

      1. kempc23
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Sorry I dont understand this comment... Are you saying Sterling didnt outperform Kane and Kun till gw23?

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Until GW 22 Sterling scored one point more than Kane. From 23 on he scored one fewer than Kun. Kun Kane with one transfer matched Sterling.

          So if like me you made the logical swap to Kun in 23 when Kane got injured you didn’t lose. In fact I did better than that as I then moved onto Vardy at the right time.

      2. Majestic Chanka
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Sterling is a far better pick than Kane/Kun and has outperformed both the last two years!

        The only possible argument I can make is for Kun because his home record makes him reliable as a captain.

        Hot Premium Mids offer much better value than strikers due to extra Goal & CS points!

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Not so

          One transfer when Kane got injured to Kun and you got the exact same score at the end of the season - 234 points. It was a very logical transfer to make at the time.

    4. I Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Pretty much identical to mine so yeah I really like it.

  14. Jordan.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    todays and 13 reasons why

    ederson,nailed way into citys back 4 ill pay 1m for no rotation

    trent,mid with clean sheet points,no brainer
    robbo ,ditto
    coleman ,cant afford digne but solid compromise

    salah,hall of fame fpl pick
    ceballos,bit of a punt ,easy fixtures ,could be anything
    de bruyne bargain at 9.5
    ward prowse engine room of what could be the surprise team

    king,on pens ,decent option in attacking team
    deulofeu ,worth a go but would prefer as a mid
    vardy ,on pens ,and is going to get fed all day long possibly gfames best pick

    subs
    button,cheapo
    lanzini gw2 onwards,quality player ,under the radar
    balbuena another for gw2
    lunstrom ,4.0m filler

    1. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I think Wilson will outscore Vardy in the first 6 games. Definitely would prefer him for the first 2 games.

  15. cpo001
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Hit me up with your comments/criticisms - version 6...

    Ryan (Button)
    Walker / TAA / Robertson (Guilbert / Kelly)
    Milivojevic / Trossard / Salah / Siggy / Perez
    King / Aguero (Greenwood)

    Despite the obvious Sterling omission - I am going Aguero to protect team structure - any obvious comments? Downgrade midfielders to afford KDB? Upgrade keeper?

  16. The Mantis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone else have Digne in their team but questioning it massively?

    I literally have him in there as it seems everyone else does so I don't want to full behind, but I am never impressed with Everton!

    Wondering whether there is a better choice that's not TAA or Robertson

    1. The Mantis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      fall*

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Find it, then. 🙂

    3. cpo001
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Agreed, not keen on Digne or Coleman given the current circumstances. Downgrade and re-invest elsewhere for me

    4. Robson-Canoe
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I think AWB will surprise everyone. Decent enough going forward and an absolute beast at tackling. Still a big question mark over United defence though.

      1. The Mantis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        I was also thinking this, looked great in pre-season (and obviously last year). Let's see about Maguire first perhaps...

    5. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Your having him for the wrong reasons then imo.

      I have him at mo but tempted to downgrade him. Feel 6.0 is too much for an Everton defender. Remember how bad they were most of last season

      1. CostaCoffee
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        They kept the most clean sheets in the league since January. I know they lost Zouma and Gueye but still

      2. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Imagine paying 6.0 for an Everton defender when AWB and Maguire cost 5.5

    6. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      If it helps I have coleman and .5 itb

    7. The Mantis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I've got rid (for now), can't go ahead with an Everton def - doesn't feel right lol

      Stuck AWB as seems could be a bit of a differential this year, let's see

  17. Ruinenlust
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Those who argue against GK rotations obviously never had Vorm and Krul

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Long time ago. I had those. Won't be doing it this Season. 😀

    2. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Which Star Trek movie are those characters in?

  18. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    I was just wondering is Bernardo Silva worth it?

    My current Midfield is:

    Bernardo-Silva ♦ Fraser ♦ Sigurdsson (4.5-4.5)

    Would I be better off getting a cheaper key player from a team outside the top four?
    Not keen on the Moura one week punt.
    Better off going Maddison for example?

    1. avfc82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I think he'll offer value at 8.0, but that midfield is a bit light no?

      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        I have gone for 'the fat bottomed girl' fantasy football formation.
        Thin at waist with just enough up top to catch the attention.

        .5itb
        Pickford (button)

        VVD-Robertson-TAA-Coleman-(Azpileceuta)

        Fraser-Sigurdsson-Bsilva-(Dendocker-Trybull)

        Wilson-King-Kane

        1. avfc82
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Good luck, my initial concern is a lack of captain options. Kane GW1, Sigurdsson GW2?

          1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            I actually have it on TAA and Kane VC
            Gw maybe Wilson/Fraser/King v Villa or TAA again gw2
            Maybe I should switch Kane to Aubameyang and it will give me a good option gw2

  19. KingOllie
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Dont sleep on Deeney, the guy has got big cojones and is gonna slot a few penalties early doors

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      *red cards 😉

    2. el polako
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Never again for this trolgodyte.

    3. Udo
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      He's a bit "touch&godownyou" as well, and receives those yellow thank you cards as an appreciation in return.

    4. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I love the fella as a player.
      Then when you read about his background and how he could have gone off the rails it is even more impressive.
      I think that drives him to succeed and make the best of what he has got.

  20. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Dean Smith looks like Tom Heaton putting himself through FaceApp

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Lol pretty good

    2. Srv210
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      great observation 🙂

  21. Shatner's Bassoon
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    4.5m keeper then... I put Henderson in last night with the question-mark over Pope.

    Not sure about it though... Ryan in?

    1. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I wouldn't want the goalkeeper of the team I think will spend all season somewhere between 18th - 20th.

      1. Maddi Son
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Etheridge.

        1. HamezMace
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Most of his points were as a result of penalty saves though + bonus for saving a penalty.
          That could be any keeper this year.

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            *3 x PS

      2. Shatner's Bassoon
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah. For the moment I've moved to Coleman/Pope -> Lloris + 4.5DF. Feels a bit better.

  22. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone know of any good FPL cash leagues?

    1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      A few on FISO

  23. Daniel100Maerkl
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    I think I cracked a side with the big 3. Past experience has shown as that as great as a balanced side looks on paper we always end up gravitating to the big boys.
    Also its much easier to downgrade the likes of Kane and Sterling as oppose to ripping up side trying to find funds if you don't have them.

    Lloris (Stek)

    TAA Coleman Zinchenko Wan Bissaka (Kelly)

    Salah Sterling Perez Moutinho (Hayden)

    Kane King (Greenwood)

    Thoughts?

    1. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I would have Wilson before kane and improve your defence or midfield. You can only captain one big hitter.

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Get Dendo in so you are certain if at least one Wolf. Not a fan of King selection but doable overall.

      Like the mix at the back.

      Agree that you can downgrade fairly simply. I’d just observe you have 3 biggies but no obvious GW2 captain. That feels counterintuitive if you are thinking this is a short term call

    3. Rock Papiss Cissès
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Wouldn't want to be playing Moutinho every week

  24. Srv210
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Any up for getting in Lacazette for first few fixtures then swap for son when he comes back ?

    1. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Son averaged less than 3 points in his last 11 game weeks. I wouldn’t rush myself. (One 4 pointer and one ten pointer - ouch!)

    2. The 5% Team
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I'm probably doing it...even though Laca wasn't kind to me last season

      Don't have the funds to go Auba

  25. Bullet Eder
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Burnley fans, who are your starting full-backs? I need a nailed 4.5 option.

    1. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Taylor and Lowton I'd have thought.

      1. Shatner's Bassoon
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        That's what I thought but then Pieters and Bardsley played last night :/

    2. Rock Papiss Cissès
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      So if I'm not a Burnley fan, my input doesn't matter?

      1. Bullet Eder
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        What a dull reply

  26. Andrew
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    If you are going with 1 Liverpool defender how do you choose between Robbo and TAA?

    1. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I’ve been going with TAA the whole time, but I think I’ll end up on Robbo. TAA will start to et rotates mid season

      1. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Get rotated*

    2. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Trent.

    3. Shatner's Bassoon
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Robbo for that tiny bit more nailed-ness.

      Cigarette paper between them IMO.

  27. Manumana
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Hows thing looking. Have 3 bournemouth attackers. Due to their great opening 2 fixtures

    Pope
    Robbo TAA Digne Zinch
    Salah Sterling Fraser Perez
    Wilson King

    Woodman Greenwoon Dend Landstrum

    Thx a lot

    1. Robson-Canoe
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Good team but the Bournemouth triple up is way too much for me.

    2. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Very good. Bournemouth triple up is brave. Still, top scoring team last season outside the top 6 with decent fixtures. Its not like you cant use transfers.

      1. Manumana
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Indeed

    3. Shatner's Bassoon
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Thought about doing it myself as I think Fraser's the best 7.5M mid; and I usually end up with that much to spend once I finish tinkering!

      City GW3 but it's not like they can't score one goal against them, provided they actually have a shot this time round.

      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/no-shots-at-home-bournemouth-gain-unwanted-premier-league-first-in-man-city-defeat/ar-BBUiqVv

  28. RamaJama
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Which Spurs def to have?

    1. avfc82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I think Vertonghen is the safest for now.

  29. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Omg, just noticed Norris is injured. Have to rip up my team now... and it was all settled... :/

    1. Manumana
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Not injured. Hes goin out on loan

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Does that mean he is immune from price drops?

  30. Ask Yourself
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Pepe set to be unveiled can’t wait for his price xx

    1. Andrew
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I reckon 9.0 or 9.5