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Salah and Firmino both start in the Community Shield

Liverpool take on Manchester City in the Community Shield this afternoon and the match could be as big a signpost as any as to how the two sides will line up in Gameweek 1.

Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) and Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) both make their first starts of pre-season for the Reds and are joined by Divock Origi (£5.5m) in the front three.

Sadio Mane (£11.5m) is yet to return following his involvement with Senegal at the Africa Cup of Nations.

Alisson (£6.0m), Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.0m), Andrew Robertson (£7.0m) and Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m) all unsurprisingly feature in the Liverpool backline but Joe Gomez (£5.5m) has been given the nod over Joel Matip (£5.5m) to partner van Dijk at centre-half.

James Milner (£5.5m) is ruled out as a precaution due to a tight muscle.

There are no huge shocks in the Manchester City starting XI, with Aymeric Laporte (£6.5m) missing out through injury as expected.

Sergio Aguero (£12.0m), Gabriel Jesus (£9.5m) and Ederson (£6.0m) are only among the substitutes after their late return from the Copa America.

Raheem Sterling (£12.0m) again leads the line for the Citizens and will be flanked by Leroy Sane (£9.5m) and Bernardo Silva (£8.0m).

Kevin De Bruyne (£9.5m) is part of City’s central midfield three, while Oleksandr Zinchenko (£5.5m) starts again at left-back.

Kick-off at Wembley is at 15:00 BST.

 

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  1. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Jesus was on the pitch? lol

    1. Azathoth
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Walking on the grass.....

  2. GlasgowFF
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Liverpool are brilliant, but City are always just a hair better.

    1. Alnair
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      There's always some element of luck when City beat Liverpool though. Mane red, the ball being inches from being over the line back in January and now today.

      1. Forza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Great defensive clearances are hardly lucky.

        1. Licky
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          It's usually a case of City's defensive mistakes not being punished.

          1. Forza
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            True, but then the onus is on Liverpool to finish it better and make the recovery impossible. They wouldn't have needed luck if Salah's finish was better, for example.

      2. dark91
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Yes. And Mahrez missing a late penalty too

        1. Alnair
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          The only exception really...

          1. Forza
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Another is the ridiculous disallowed goal in the 2018 Champions League tie.

      3. Klaren
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        I dislike both teams but I disagree with that. You have to look at it from City's point of view as well. They missed a penalty at Anfield last season, Sterling missed the 2 on 1 chance before Liverpool's equaliser today etc.

  3. ★Kuntheman★
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    CLAUDIO YOU BEAUTIFUL MAN

  4. Robson-Canoe
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    City dominating every domestic competition. Liverpool can only win some weird European Mickey Mouse trophies.

    1. GlasgowFF
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Like the Champions League? The most important club trophy....

  5. The Train Driver
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    We still think Origi will start?

    1. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      GW1 at best, and I’d say that’s 50-50.

      1. The Train Driver
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        This, he was useless...

  6. The Darkest Knight
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Hello guys.. couldn't watch the game.
    can anybody give me opinion about Salah, KDB and sterling??

    1. United10
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Salah and Sterling good, KDB wait and see

    2. Pukki Blinders
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      KDB got MOTM. Sterling and salah both a little wasteful but plenty of chances.

    3. b91jh
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      KDB looks around 70-80% fit comparing to his top season.
      Mo and Raz continue to play in the way like they did in before. Get a lot of chances, and miss a lot of them.

    4. Werner Bremen
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      All great

    5. The Darkest Knight
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Kdb played deep or in no.10 role?

      1. The Mighty Hippo
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Rodri was fantastic playing alongside him and allowed KDB to come forward frequently and be involved in a number of attacks.

    6. The Mighty Hippo
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Get all three of them if you can.

    7. WorldCupDanB
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I only saw it on and off but KDB seemed to be getting into the box a lot more than I expected

  7. b91jh
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    The match just made the VVD partnership problem extending to the right back position.

  8. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Liverpool should get a trophie for finishing secon

    1. XabiAlonso
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Weak

  9. United10
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    TAA less likely to start after that performance?

    1. Pukki Blinders
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      for sure, with gomez over his shoulder...

    2. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Gomez got 90. Matip came on, played well & scored... Worrying.

      TBF may need to worry about defense against Norwich as much, so at least Trent has thst going for him.

    3. Dr Van Nostrand
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Nah he just won't start or finish every game same as last year when Gomez was fit

    4. soup natsi
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      he performed well, but as long as gomez is fit vvd better option

  10. RS333
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts?
    A: Ryan, Digne, Sterling, King
    or
    B: Pickford, Coleman, KDB, Rashford

  11. Dr Van Nostrand
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    It's just preseason but Pool completely bossed it 2nd half. 2 posts and 2 goal line clearances

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Makes a change from getting bossed and then nicking it at the end

      1. Dr Van Nostrand
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Lol City only won the title with a late winner vs Pool at the Etihad after getting bossed as usual

  12. CelticBhoy1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    A) Sterling and Doucoure

    B) KDB and Siggy

    1. GoodFella93
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      In terms of Value, absolutely b).... A) if you need captain choice/city cover

  13. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Silly Trophy

    1. Cheshire Duck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      community chilled

    2. Debauchy
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Really is but a great way to kick off

    3. JohnnyMagrinho
        4 years, 8 months ago

        So silly that City themselves class it as a major honour and even used it proclaim themselves as being FOURMIDDABLE. Quite silly indeed. *insert laughing crying face, thumbs up, rolling eyes emote, face-palm and virtual sigh*

        1. Syd.
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          That was cringeworthy

    4. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Ederson owners should be very worried after that performance by Bravo. Hes the favorite to start GW1 now for sure

      1. Pukki Blinders
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        yep Pep has even said that before today.

        1. Long ball Larry
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Source?

        2. Shineonme
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Ederson is 100% starter for first game.

          1. Pukki Blinders
            • 4 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            even with no pre season minutes?

      2. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        what has ederson done wrong?

        1. Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Not been part of pre season while Bravo has excelled.

          1. Salah’s Sonnet
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            ahhh ok good to know, was never choosing a city keeper but good to know still thanks 🙂

        2. AuFeld
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I wasn't aware he had to do anything.

        3. Pepereina Pizza
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Nothing, but now Pep probably is thinking "you know, I never DID get around to rotating my goalkeepers, and now I have the chance"

          1. ENZO SZN™
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            And then there were none... that is nailed.

    5. sirmorbach
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      How does it look?

      Heaton
      TAA, VVD, Coleman
      Salah, Sterling, Fraser, Pérez, Robinson
      Vardy, Adams

      4.0, Targett, Greenwood, Lundstram

      0.5 itb to upgrade Robinson for Barkley/Mount once it all gets settled.

      1. Cheshire Duck
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        you haven't read the 14 previous pages bashing TAA ?

      2. It’s gonna Ben Mee
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Is Adams nailed? Seems risky with Ings and Austin around.

        1. Siggy in the Middle
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Has played all throughout preseason. Austin seems like he's done

        2. AuFeld
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Last I checked Austin had zero mins in pre-season. Adams and Ings will be on the front line with Ings on PK's.

    6. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bravo starting at Upton Park

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Good keeper pep loves him

      2. thunder_mike
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah I had Ederson in my draft for a while. Might swap him for VVD/Zinchenko and go cheap.

      3. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        In my team right now. 5.0 for a City gk, incredible value.

        1. ENZO SZN™
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Yes. Him and Otamendi for double City defensive cover. Looks great today.

      4. Long ball Larry
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        I would

    7. Alnair
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Alisson is horrific at pens

    8. The Darkest Knight
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      How Liverpool's full back played? Robbo and TAA?

      1. Pukki Blinders
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        TAA subbed off, poor defensively today. Matip his sub came on and scored to rub salt in wound. I'm going with robbo now.

      2. Mooster©️
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        TAA did not impress
        Robbo seemed to struggle with injury in the last minutes

      3. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Robbo and VVD solid....Gomez impressed TAA not at his best......KDB looked good in a no10 role for most of the match but clearly not 100% fit. Stirling and Salah doing what they do best. Thought Stones and Bravo played well.

    9. Siggy in the Middle
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      So what combo of Liverpool and City defenders are we going with? Robertson, VVD and Stones for me

      1. Forza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        VVD, Zinchenko, TAA/Robertson/Gomez (depending on what Klopp says).

      2. Pukki Blinders
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        You're playing russian roulette with stones. Laporte will knock one of otamendi or stones out of the starting XI

      3. Andy Mac
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        TAA VVD Stones for me. TAA still great option imo

    10. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Bravo deserves the #1 shirt

    11. Optic1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Think this is quite a tough poll. Been on A for weeks but B is now tempting me greatly.

      A) TAA, Digne, Jota

      B) VVD, Coleman, Jiminez

      Cheers

      1. Andy Mac
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        A and not that close imo...

      2. JohnnyMagrinho
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I'd go VVD or Robbo over TAA (he's rotation risk with Gomes and last season's successes will more likely be repeated by Robbo as he has less competition for his space and is a better all round player).

          I'd go Pereira over either of Digne or Coleman. If you have another 0.5 I'd want Alonso before either of those, too.

          Won't be touching any Wolves assets yet. EL is going to mess with rotation and Jimenez slightly injured. Some good value to be found in between 6.5 and 8m for forwards anyway, so shouldn't be too hard to find someone.

          I'd be more inclined to invest more money in midfield than attack unless you're after Auba/King/Aguero, personally.

          1. MGMT
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Alonso?? Madness

        • Optic1
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Cheers lads

      3. Debauchy
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Learnt a lot from this game ,,, not

        1. Debauchy
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Wrong KDB looking slick

          1. Mooster©️
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            And injured

            1. Old Man
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              likely cramp

      4. WorldCupDanB
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

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        1. Yank Revolution
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Are there any country restrictions? Open to all around the world?

      5. Mooster©️
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Community shield:
        Sané injured
        Robertson possibly injured
        DeBruyne possbily injured
        TAA didn't play very well

        1. I Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Didn't notice any injuries to Robbo or KDB?

          1. Mooster©️
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            De Bruyne - calf injury in the middle of a run. Had to sit down in the grass before being subbed
            Robbo seemed to have problems in the hip. Could not run for the last minutes.

        2. Robson-Canoe
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          What happened to Robbo?

        3. Debauchy
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Yes
          Maybe
          Doubt it
          And ?

          1. Mooster©️
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            And: Gomez can take his plac/minutes. Played well.

            1. Debauchy
              • 11 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              Dream on

        4. Dr Van Nostrand
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Only Sane injury has any bearing on anything

      6. Sloths
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Beginning to think Krul might not be such a bad idea 😛

        1. Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          They paid a fee to get Fahrmann on loan. Be surprised he isn’t first choice but it is very even minutes

      7. Clay Davis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Good to go?

        Pope (Heaton)
        Robbo, VdV, Coleman (Dunk, Lundstram)
        Salah, Sterling, Fraser, Trossard, C. Robinson
        Vardy, King (Greenwood)

        1. JohnBlack
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Gtg

      8. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Bravo is actually a decent keeper

        I know he had a rather dodgy start to his career in the PL but he has certainly proved his worth.

      9. Ser Davos
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Going to get shot down for this, but whilst I thought Salah was excellent, he still looked a bit off his sharpest self. If he had scored today, you'd be looking at 7 points... Auba has new and BUR.

        Liverpool much, much improved second half.

        1. I Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          The thing is, he could've easily had a hat-trick...

          1. Ser Davos
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Indeed, particularly second half. Was his lack of clinical edge due to cobwebs?

        2. Syd.
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          It was just a continuation of his form from last season when he looked completely out of sorts but somehow always managed to come up with the goods.

        3. Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          7 points is a very good score

        4. antis0cial
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          He was against city and could have easily scored 2 today.

      10. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Best due?

        Robbo-Digne-???-???-Lundstram

        VVD+Walker
        TAA+AWB

        1. Andy Mac
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          A

      11. The Senate
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Which do we reckon?
        (A) Ederson, TAA, Bernardo, Maddison

        (B) Pickford/Lloris, VVD, KDB, Ayoze

        Rest:
        Robbo AWB Coleman
        Salah Zaha
        Kane Jota
        (4.0 Lund Donck Gwood)

        1. RS333
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          B