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Is Liverpool’s defence still a reliable source of clean sheets?

Teemu Pukki‘s (£6.5m) goal against Liverpool in Gameweek 1 already has Fantasy managers concerned about doubling up on the Reds’ defence this season.

Liverpool kept 21 clean sheets last year, more than any other side, but are yet to register one in 2019/20 after conceding on Friday night.

Doubling-up on the Reds’ defence had previously proved a popular tactic this summer.

Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m) is still the most fashionable of the Liverpool back-line, owned by 50% of managers for the first Gameweek.

Meanwhile, as the first deadline of the campaign passed, Andrew Robertson (£7.0m) sat in 34% of squads, and Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.0m) was in 24% of them.

Various combinations of these three defenders were also forming part of many a manager’s setup for the 2019/20 season.

12.3% of all Fantasy managers had both van Dijk and Robertson for Gameweek 1, 7% paired the Dutchman with Alexander-Arnold while 6.8% owned both full-backs.

However, after Liverpool’s opening day display, there are those who are worried about whether they should be so heavily invested in Jurgen Klopp’s defence.

Alisson is now set to be out for several weeks with a muscle problem

The injury to Alisson (£6.0m), expected to be out for at least a few weeks, is also giving some Fantasy managers cold feet about last season’s best back-line.

In this latest article, we will look at the data from Gameweek 1 to see how much we should be worried about Liverpool’s defence moving forward.

As this uses information from the Fantasy Football Scout Members Area, only those who have signed up for the 2019/20 campaign can access it in full.

How did Norwich do offensively on Friday night?

Lessons learned from Gameweek 1

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  1. kime67
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Yes it is.

    1. el polako
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Thats conclusive then.

      We need new topic.

  2. Adriano
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Looks like Rash and Martial are set to rise.

    A) Wilson to Rash
    B) Moura to Martial

    1. danlynch13
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Think they will rise tonight?

      1. danlynch13
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        B for that aswell

    2. Yank Revolution
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      No they dont

    3. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      No evidence of that on fplstatistics.co.uk

      1. Baltic Revolution
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        This

    4. Whiskerz
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      According to what?

    5. AuFeld
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Martial if need to be.

    6. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Where are you getting your price information?

  3. pundit of punts
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Thinking of shifting my team to something like this.

    Pope
    TAA - Laporte - AWB - Christensen - Coleman
    Salah - Sterling - Son - Mount
    Rashford

    4m - Dendoncker - Greenwood - Wickham

    Thoughts? Too crazy?

    1. yakirh
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Christensen and Mount? transfers waiting to happen.

    2. $carface
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Rubbish team.

      1. Pinturicchio10
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Agreed.

          1. Random Name
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            People hate what is different.

            Enjoy your template teams lads

            1. Pinturicchio10
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Cheers buddy.

              • $carface
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Clearly lacks balance.

          2. Camino Aleatorio
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Somebody has to finished ranked, 4,000,000...this dude is a candidate

        • _werre_
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Crazy is an understatement

        • Boris Bodega
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Is Son back in contention now? Or one more match ban?
          Otherwise good, personally I would avoid the Chelsea picks, but they're not bad...just punty, which I understand you have a penchant for.

          1. Klein
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Banned for gw2.

        • La Roja
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Stop reading at Christensen

          1. La Roja
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Stopped*

        • pundit of punts
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Cheers all 🙂

          1. HeDoesntWantIt
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            I don’t hate it. Nice to see a bit of variety.

      2. Doctor Evil
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        I’m more interested in the fact that Pukki is the real deal.
        I know he done well last season but that wasn’t the Prem.
        I watched the game and I reckon he we get a lot of goals again this season.
        His movement is brilliant and his link up play is just as good.
        Swapping him in for King. Newcastle up next.

        1. theodosios
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          I'm also interested in that transfer, but who has bigger chances for goals/assists?
          King vs City, Leicester, Everton or Pukki vs Chelsea, WHU, City
          Coz they both have relatively easier opponents this GW

          1. Harper (No more Penandes)
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            I think Pukki could do better against more difficult opponents because they play with a higher line
            The timing of his runs are impeccable, he was getting behind that Liverpool backline so easily

            1. Hairy Potter
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              He might not find as much space against Newcastle's back seven!

              1. Harper (No more Penandes)
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Indeed, I'm really excited to see how he will do against Chelsea

        2. Riders of Yohan
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Agree. Will hold out one more game though to roll the FT

      3. _werre_
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Pope
        Robertson Digne Kelly
        Salah(c) Martial Fraser Perez KDB
        Kan King

        Bench: Heaton Lundstram Taylor Greenwood

        Any suggestions for near future?

        1. Orion
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Unsure on Robbo or TAA by myself...

        2. Whiskerz
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Looking to get sterling in at some point? Do you have a strategy for it?

        3. suddenorgan
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Wait for GW3 then consider Fraser/King out depending on how they look next game

        4. Boberella
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Needs Sterling
          Pukki over King too

      4. Orion
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Should i go with:

        A) Rashford+4.5
        B) King+Barnes/Wood

        Third one is Pukki... cheers 😀

      5. OneDennisBergkamp
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        What formation is everyone on?

        For years I have always stuck with 3-4-3 but I have started this year with 3-5-2, GW1 saw me get 80pts, but it something just doesn't feel right with that formation. Am I worrying for no reason?

        1. La Roja
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          I’m on 4-4-2 and considering 4-5-1 after GW3, depends hot it goes

          1. La Roja
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            How*

        2. Boris Bodega
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          4-3-3 at the moment. And you are probably worrying for no reason, you will only be two to three transfers away from changing it I am guessing?

        3. Whiskerz
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          442

        4. Swanremainsthesame
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          The Elite64 seem to be on 4-4-2
          I'm on 3-5-2 at the mo

        5. Spider
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          GW1 = 3-5-2

        6. Maddi Son
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          3-5-2 and love it.

          Soon to be a power 5 midfield.

          1. AuFeld
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            What is your front line going to look like?

        7. Valar(Keith)
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          3 4 3 allows dendonker.. So I went for it.. No 4.5 strikers so I ignored 3 5 2

          1. Riders of Yohan
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            This was my thoughts exactly

          2. LangerznMash
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            This logic ^

        8. Pinturicchio10
            4 years, 7 months ago

            442 for now.

          • Riders of Yohan
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Midfielders regularly get the most points, especially those that should really be attackers. Salah, sterling, martial etc. All are playing as advanced as some of the “attackers” in the game

          • g40steve
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            4 4 2 last week.

          • alexdelarge
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Midfielders generally amass more Points, but with 5 obviously you are prone to less autorotation and have to go for cheaper ones without certain fpl-points

          • Heskey Time
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            352 here didn’t like 3 striking options and 442 just seemed boring

          • Ze_Austin
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            I'm on 3-5-2 and like it

            Considered 4-5-1 a number of times with 2 FTs in GW3 but keep finding a way to chicken out from the plan due to the "second sub" issue, so still on 3-5-2

          • Baps hunter
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            5-3-2 with 3 big hitters. Not happy with Luiz as 5th def. 4-4-2 pretty soon probably. For me the formation doesn't matter. I would actually prefer mids over fwds, but the lack of decent 6-6.5 cheapies forced to this structure.

          • Marty McFly
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            I’m on a 451

          • EMBOLOFAN
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            541

          • yakirh
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            4-5-1 that will become 5-4-1 soon

        9. One Wheels Enough
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Longterm:

          A) Ederson/Siggy

          or

          B) Pope/KDB

          Have Salah/Ster/Martial/Perez

          1. Pinturicchio10
              4 years, 7 months ago

              B

            • Whiskerz
              • 10 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              I think 4.5 is plenty on your playing keeper so I would never consider a). But I wouldn't think of these choices in terms of exact players, specifically with as little info as we have on individuals at the moment. Measure them as price points.

              So a) 6.0gk / 8.0mf vs
              b) 4.5gk / 9.5mf

              Which is the best distribution of funds?

              If you go a) are you going to want to release that 1.5 extra at some point to invest further up the field? Are you going to want to use up a transfer on a gk to do that? Or risk pricing yourself out of optimal team configurations.

              It's not such a simple question.

              1. One Wheels Enough
                • 4 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                I know that's why I asked it 🙂

                I guess just leave it a week and see how it goes - only prob is missing price rises as my only real enabler apart from Ed is getting 0.5 from swapping Digne with Coleman...

          2. Kippers
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            I have King and Jimenez at mo.. am I mad for considering Pukki?!

            1. Riders of Yohan
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Not at all

            2. _nod
              • 10 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              As a replacement or in addition?

            3. Pinturicchio10
                4 years, 7 months ago

                I don't like King but still wouldn't sell this gw. The power of 2 fts is more beneficial.

            4. Ze_Austin
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Wow. Kante confirmed injured. Kante having an injury-ravaged season (like KDB/Alli last season) could make things even worse for Chelsea's defence, and there's a huge sign that's what's going to happen with his recent recurring injury worries

              1. Weak Become Heros
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Didnt he get minutes at the weekend?

              2. _nod
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                What’s the injury?

                1. Ze_Austin
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  https://twitter.com/FFScout/status/1161295108828012545?s=20

                  "A small injury" even though he played for so few minutes on return from recurring injury. That's usually a bad sign for the season

                  It wasn't specified though, and I hope it's not what I think. Really like the player

                  1. Ze_Austin
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    I think it might be important to mention that I'm a doctor at this point. So I have a knack for watching out for stuff like this with players

                    1. HeDoesntWantIt
                      • 9 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      Yeah I’m an astronaut

            5. McGowan
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              What’s better:
              A. Rashford + 5.5mid
              or
              B. Martial + 6.5 foward

              1. Cheeky Onion
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Good Q

                B gives you more flexibility with a lot of 6.5 options up top

                1. McGowan
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  Tricky one. Got Pukki but not sure which other 6.5m striker is a good shout with nice fixtures? Maupay?

              2. Marty McFly
                • 11 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                I think this is a “wait and see” situation.

            6. Heskey Time
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Is trossard to McGinn this week a sensible move for the long term?

              Current team is:

              Pope, button
              VVD, digne, zincenko, laud, Rico
              Sterling, Salah, Bruyne, Perez, tros
              Wilson, jota, Greenwood

              1. Licky
                • 11 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                I would think so.

              2. Miguel Sanchez
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Save - Trossard should play.

              3. Maddi Son
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                You don't need to make that move this week. Worst case scenario Trossard gets dropped again and you have Lundstram who comes in. Some people are even starting him this week. You can afford to hold this week and evaluate with 2 FT's.

                Trossy boi will start though, dont you worry.

              4. Ze_Austin
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                I have Trossard. I'd prefer switching him to El Ghazi (winger) than McGinn (CM) for the same price, but I'm holding for GW2. Coach's post-match comments hinted at a huge home game debut for Trossard against THAT West Ham defence, so I'll start him and trust my bench for one more GW, then reassess with two FTs

                Also encouraged by the fact that Lampard favoured Mount for no good reason in GW1. That's usually the sign of a nailed-to-be player. Would be an easier decision after GW2 anyway

                1. Heskey Time
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  The worry for me is that he will come on as a sub for a 1 pointer but I think I may well hold thanks

                  1. Miguel Sanchez
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    West Ham looked vulnerable down their right on Saturday. Trossard played left wing in preseason so could do very well.

              5. Marty McFly
                • 11 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                I have Trossard and I’m holding.

            7. Whats the Mata?
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              I have Fraser in my current team along with Wilson and was contemplating over whether to save ft or get Martial in.

              Yes Fraser to Martial after just 1 gw sounds a bit kneejerk but I'm anyway gonna take Fraser out next game for Martial with the amazing fixtures United have and Bou playing City.

              Also, for this particular gw2, I see equal points potential for Fraser and Martial.

              With price rises and points potential to consider, don't y'all think Fraser to Martial is worth doing this particular gw itself?

              1. Whiskerz
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Bou fixture is much easier on paper. If I had Fraser I'd hold for the villa game. No doubt.

              2. Cheeky Onion
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Save and do it next week

              3. Ole's at the wheel
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Kneejerk/ pre planned:
                he got the no9 was kind of obvious also from preseason. I decided to Start with Moura instead of Fraser just for gw1 knowing martial would be in and the Transfer was done as soon as the game kicked off.

              4. Respect My Authoritah
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                No

            8. ZAWAd25
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Good to save a FT?

              Pope
              TAA VVD Coleman Zinchenko
              Salah Sterling Fraser Moura
              Wilson Jota
              (Button Lundstram Dendonker Greenwood)

              1. Cheeky Onion
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Almost my team exactly. Maybe Lucas > Martial before Poch starts rotating

              2. tyron
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                same front attack as me. i just did moura to mcginn. (kane in mind)

            9. Cheeky Onion
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Is Adrian a no brainer now?

              Even at the expense of one of Liverpool's premium defenders?

              Currently have Pope/Heaton - don't see a major reason to change but such a cheap way into that back line sounds too good to pass on

              1. Wild Rover
                • 13 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Depends on whether you think the extra money is worth it for get attacking points or not. Certainly not a no brainer

                1. Wild Rover
                  • 13 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  *for def attacking points

                  1. Cheeky Onion
                    • 6 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Would look something like:

                    Pope, Robertson, Greenwood > Adrian, AWB, Pukki

              2. _nod
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                How long is Alison expected to be out for?

                1. Wild Rover
                  • 13 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  ‘a few weeks’

                2. Cheeky Onion
                  • 6 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  Nothing confirmed, but I'd reckon at least a few weeks - potentially months

                3. LangerznMash
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  I think he will be in net against Shef Utd.

                  1. LangerznMash
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Maybe Chelsea.

                  2. Cheeky Onion
                    • 6 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    If you intend on an i'tnl break WC that's perfect timing

                4. MTPockets
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Nothing new from Klopp's press conference just now

              3. child of God
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Everton have good fixtures but are not filling me with confidence at the moment
                So should I stick with sigurdsson or move to martial?

                1. jimski
                  • 13 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  Stick.

                2. Ze_Austin
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  Siggy had a goal hacked off the line by PVA, with what would have been a Digne assist

                  Hope this helps

                3. Marty McFly
                  • 11 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  When you buy Siggy you buy into the long term strategy of keeping him for steady but uninspiring returns. Just keep hold of him until you WC.

              4. WrightnBright
                • 12 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Any details on the scout H2H league yet? Can’t seem to any updates anywhere.

                1. Rotation's Alter Ego
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 12 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  Believe it's being worked on so it will be out this week, but not sure. It's a mammoth undertaking, as anyone that's done something like this will tell you.

                  1. WrightnBright
                    • 12 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Cheers, yes one heck of a job I’m sure - will be worth the wait.

              5. jimski
                • 13 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                What is happening with price changes this season - is it normal to wait so many days before they start changing?

                1. Brosstan
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  I hope they changed it to make it less volatile. Price changes is one of the dumbest parts of the game and increases template forming.

                  1. Bruce Lee
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    agree with that - but how does it increase template forming?

                    1. Marty McFly
                      • 11 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      People jump on bandwagons and keep players to protect their squad value. Last season there were more transfers in the first 6 gws than the rest of the season.

                      1. Bruce Lee
                        • 5 Years
                        4 years, 7 months ago

                        oh right i see... that stat might be because of the dead teams that stopped playing

                        1. Marty McFly
                          • 11 Years
                          4 years, 7 months ago

                          Yeh that will be a big part of it

                  2. teddypicker
                    • 14 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    You could argue the other way round. If there is a template to be had, it's easier if everyone has the same team value

              6. Dynamic Duos
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Boring week for me this , no ft I want to make, no stand out players that are worth talking about that I haven't got , just roll on gwk2 please.

                1. I Member
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  That's exactly what you should want after GW1.

              7. Ste-Rex
                • 4 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Do BHA fans, or anyone who has an opinion, think that Maupey will start the next game?

                1. Marty McFly
                  • 11 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  His signing is what stopped me from having Murray in my team. If that answers your question...

                  1. Giorgi89
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    wise move 😉

                2. Giorgi89
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  Interested as well! with Murray ATM, would love to switch to Maupay but need my BHA fwd to play in GW2

                3. EMBOLOFAN
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  doubt it

              8. Bruce Lee
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Quick poll...

                How many transfers have you made?

                If you have made any, what were the transfers?

                1. Chelsea91
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  Allison to ederson

                2. pundit of punts
                  • 11 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  No transfers yet

                3. EMBOLOFAN
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  0 obv

                4. Garth Marenghi
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  I went moura to mcginn, moura was always out after gw1 and I almost started with mcginn, that extra 2 million was too much to give up.

                5. Sloths
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 4 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  Burnleys Taylor > Villas Mings
                  My rotating pair of Taylor & Villa Guilbert were no shows 🙁

                6. Eytexi
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  None. Saving. 🙂

                7. HashAttack
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  I've made 3 but it looks like you cannot check what transfers you have made at the moment ... another change to FPL?
                  Wood, KDB and Fraser to Pukki, Sterling and Dendonker

              9. Brosstan
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                To expand on my reply about regarding price changes. Why exactly are price changes part of the game? What positive do they bring. I only see negatives personally, it seriously contributes to template forming.

                1. People who dont own a form player (for instance Sterling or Martial right now) are additionally incentivised to bring in those players out of fear of being priced out and to increase team value.

                2. People who own players who have performed well over a period of time and thus increased in price are heavily disincentivised to remove those players because the price systems means you lose team value if you ever want them back in.

                What exactly are positives with the fluctuating price system?

                1. MTPockets
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Adds another decision factor - risk vs reward of transfer timing.
                    Although in recent years has sometimes gone too batshit for my liking.

                  • Dynamic Duos
                    • 10 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    There isn't any positives , it is all just a hindrance, making the game harder, why would you want it to be easy?

                    1. Brosstan
                      • 9 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      It doesnt make it hard, just annoying. Having non-decisions like "I cant really remove player X now because he has already increased .4 in value" makes the game easier, not harder.

                      1. Dynamic Duos
                        • 10 Years
                        4 years, 7 months ago

                        Yeah but trying to catch players before you get priced out , then some thing bad happens in you ie bans injuries and now starting to spend points , or you get priced out and now you end up with a player you don't really want to find funds then makes the game harder no?

                        1. Bruce Lee
                          • 5 Years
                          4 years, 7 months ago

                          thinking about it... templates are way easier if there are no price rises.... everyone will have the exact same budget and exact same price list.... there will hardly ever be any differences between teams

                          1. Dynamic Duos
                            • 10 Years
                            4 years, 7 months ago

                            Agreed.

                            1. Bruce Lee
                              • 5 Years
                              4 years, 7 months ago

                              can we be friends? i don't have any other ones

                              1. Dynamic Duos
                                • 10 Years
                                4 years, 7 months ago

                                Sorry I'm best mates with Chuck Norris lol

                  • Bruce Lee
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    the purpose is almost a fallback for fpl towers... it is very hard to price everyone at the exact value they will provide... for example, mahrez and vardy were cheap in the season leicester won the league. their price increased due to the demand in the market... it isn't perfect and they weren't up to the price that they were worth, but it is something at least

                    i agree with number 2 - i think you should get every single .1 increase in the bank when you sell a player. it works like that when you sell a player - why not when you buy?

                  • FPL Blow-In
                    • 11 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    I agree

                  • el polako
                    • 6 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Without price changes it would be dead easy to form a template team at any point of the season.
                    Just copy and paste on WC squad of worlds nr1.

                    1. Brosstan
                      • 9 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      Who cares if people points chase? Last week's team is never the best for the upcoming period.

                      1. el polako
                        • 6 Years
                        4 years, 7 months ago

                        Yes but the core of the team often stays the same for a while.
                        Without price changes template would be easy to achieve and game very boring.

                        1. Brosstan
                          • 9 Years
                          4 years, 7 months ago

                          I disagree completely. Template is forced by price changes for the reasons outlined above. If price changes werent a thing then someone could feasibly decide to sell a popular player to be ahead of the curve but the price system makes that not an option because you lose value.

                          1. el polako
                            • 6 Years
                            4 years, 7 months ago

                            Or you can use the value you "earned" to upgrade player x to player y.

                            You are wrong about template.
                            With TV always at 100m you can without problem copy somebody else's team, now go and try to copy team of TV of 106m whrn yours is 101.5m - cant be done you are forced to find diffrrent pl

                            1. el polako
                              • 6 Years
                              4 years, 7 months ago

                              *different players.

                            2. Brosstan
                              • 9 Years
                              4 years, 7 months ago

                              "You are wrong". Yea, no point discussing any more. Exactly the things you said in your post are reason why the price changes force template because people dont want to end up in that position late season.

                              1. el polako
                                • 6 Years
                                4 years, 7 months ago

                                Yet teams and values are different at end of the season, with constant value of players their would be much less variaety between squads - simple maths.

                    2. fplars
                      • 11 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      Not sure if I agree. The world's no 1 will not usually be because of superior squad or team value, but by doing the right choices week in, week out. Wildcarding to that team will perhaps help a poor player get a better squad structure, but for a decent player I wouldn't think the no 1 player has done something magic that you wouldn't had considered otherwise.

                      I think no price changes would mean fewer template teams as you'll be able to transfer out anyone on your team without thinking about losing money. The template forms because you get a core group of players that no one dares selling due to having too much value tied up in those players.

                  • Marty McFly
                    • 11 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    This is a bit like asking why prices change on the stock exchange.

                    Early adopters and people willing to take educated risks get rewarded.

                    1. Dynamic Duos
                      • 10 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      Boom i like this

                    2. EMBOLOFAN
                      • 5 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      exactly

                    3. Brosstan
                      • 9 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      Its not the same as the stock exchange at all.

                      1. Marty McFly
                        • 11 Years
                        4 years, 7 months ago

                        I didn’t say it was the same. But it’s a fairly reasonable analogy I think. Is there any reason you don’t think it’s a worthwhile comparison?

                  • Respect My Authoritah
                    • 10 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Both 1&2 could be argued to be positives rather than negatives

                  • jimski
                    • 13 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Still think it's odd that no player's price has yet changed.

                    1. Marty McFly
                      • 11 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      It’s usually based on a percentage of overall players making a transfer. There are a lot of players this year, which may suggest price changes will be slower.

                  • tuvok
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    I don’t think improving gameplay is the primary reason for price changes. Like all free to access internet products, FPL prioritises gambling-like techniques proven to increase usage time & therefore ad revenue.

                    The first thing a lot of people do in the morning and the last thing at night is scroll on FB/Twitter which is like a slot machine for dopamine. I’d guess checking FPL prices is one of the first things us addicts do in the morning, and checking who might fall/rise is one of the last things we do at night!

                    There would be so much more down time if there were no price changes. I certainly wouldn’t be considering transfer so much this gameweek if there weren’t.

                    1. EMBOLOFAN
                      • 5 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      it isnt this

                  • Eat my goal!
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    It’s the problem for all football managers - who can they afford, players who hit form rise in value because they are in demand and wanted by many - I wouldn’t have it any other way

                  • fplars
                    • 11 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Totally agree, I see no positives.

                    Also, I don't really understand why it is universally accepted that the rules behind the price changes are hidden. We spend so much time planning our teams and transfers, and then your plan could be ruined by an unexpected price change that you had no way of predicting. Makes no sense to me. I don't recall ever seeing an article here about this either, which is weird when it is such an important part of the game.

                    My best guess is that part of the reason to keep the price changes is to generate site traffic throughout the week?

                    1. Marty McFly
                      • 11 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      Not sure it’s accurate to say there’s no way of predicting it... there are a lot of free tools out there that help predict changes. You can also predict it based on recent performances (so without even checking I can tell you Sterling will be a high riser this week because his ownership was fairly modest and he scored 3 goals). Similarly, if a player has blanked for 3 weeks and has (mci, liv, tot) coming up, he probably won’t rise.

                      1. fplars
                        • 11 Years
                        4 years, 7 months ago

                        Well, the free tools aren't part of the official game. It would be weird if the makers of the official game defended their hidden rules by pointing to these tools. Then they should make an official tool instead.

                        Predicting based on performances works for the obvious ones like when someone scores 3, and it's easiest this week as everyone starts at 0%. But the problem is the not so obvious ones, and you'll get a lot of them during the season.
                        And even what you are suggesting, that ownership plays a part in this, is not official. Of course everyone here knows it, but for a random player trying to figure this out based on the official information is simply not possible at all.

                  • RichardNixon
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Imo a hindrance to the game is that there is only one free transfer per week. Should be two freebies per week I reckon

                    1. Gnu
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      People are being spoonfed these days, big massive spoonfuls of info which created an ever bigger template than before.
                      2 free transfers? I honestly don't think I would continue playing with an even more dumbed down game.

                    2. HashAttack
                      • 7 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      I'd like a mandatory -8 each week but you have 3 free transfers (no roll overs) ... if you don't manage your team weekly then you are going to lose out ... dead teams would be crippled

                      I don't have any issues with getting only half the profit when you sell a player .. I just don't pay any attention to TV as it's all about SV (if your strategy includes increasing SV for use later in season)

                      1. Dino
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        4 years, 7 months ago

                        Its a strategy game not an arcade game! Would you be in favour of people getting three free shots each time at a pool table also with shots carrying or of getting three free goes at chess before the other player goes.

                2. Lyonnais
                  • 11 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  Not possible to see rivals money itb and gameweek transfers anymore?

                  1. Brosstan
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    No, looks like its removed finally.

                  2. badgerboy
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 8 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Nope.

                  3. Lyonnais
                    • 11 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    thx

                3. Chelsea91
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  I plan to bench kane this week, hope city solid at back

                  1. FPL Blow-In
                    • 11 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Ridiculous really

                    1. Chelsea91
                      • 5 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      I do not think kane will score, city have good record against spurs

                      1. FPL Blow-In
                        • 11 Years
                        4 years, 7 months ago

                        11m player on the bench. Kane can score against anyone.

                        1. Chelsea91
                          • 5 Years
                          4 years, 7 months ago

                          I hope he can score, against villa i can see he seems luck to have two goal

                          1. FPL Blow-In
                            • 11 Years
                            4 years, 7 months ago

                            Best of luck

                            1. Chelsea91
                              • 5 Years
                              4 years, 7 months ago

                              I just worried about the rank, i am sure all the kane owner will start him

                  2. Brosstan
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Look up the score in the last game between the two sides 😉

                    1. Chelsea91
                      • 5 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      City win 1-0

                      1. Brosstan
                        • 9 Years
                        4 years, 7 months ago

                        🙁

                  3. Licky
                    • 11 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    I won't be doing that, but I guess you gotta back yourself.

                    1. Chelsea91
                      • 5 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      I think he will struggle against city defend

                      1. Licky
                        • 11 Years
                        4 years, 7 months ago

                        City's defense isn't that good, if Spurs get at them there will be goals.

                        1. EMBOLOFAN
                          • 5 Years
                          4 years, 7 months ago

                          it is but you still dont bench kane

                  4. EMBOLOFAN
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    lmao

                  5. Eytexi
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    What's your starting eleven?

                  6. LangerznMash
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    I'm thinking about Captaining Lucas Moura... can see him getting in-behind City's high defensive line, and targetting Zinchenko as a weakness.

                4. FPL Blow-In
                  • 11 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  Save ft here right?

                  Heaton
                  Robertson, VVD, Digne, Maguire
                  Salah(c), Sterling, Martial, Perez
                  Wilson, Wood

                  Button, Dendonker, Greenwood, Frederics

                  1. pundit of punts
                    • 11 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Yes

                    1. FPL Blow-In
                      • 11 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      Thanks. Wood to Pukki crosses my mind but I need to have more patience this season!!

                  2. Chelsea91
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Save

                  3. Botman and Robben
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Save

                5. TherryOnWii
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  Play Lundstram ahead of Zinchenko?

                  1. EMBOLOFAN
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    what? no

                  2. Eytexi
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Nah, Lundstram first sub though.

                6. zaydon
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  Adrian
                  Robertson- zinchenco-maitland- rico
                  Mane-sterling-martial
                  Kane-rashford- pukki

                  Button- lundstorm-leitner- dondon
                  I’m going to play with 433 what do u think guys? I’m on wc

                  1. EMBOLOFAN
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    dont wc

                  2. Beizer
                    • 4 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Some players (Rico, Adrian, Maitland Niles) who might lose their spots (bellerin, Daniels?!) but for the next three weeks or so it looks good to me.

                    1. LangerznMash
                      • 7 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      AMN is nailed for a few months.

                      1. Beizer
                        • 4 Years
                        4 years, 7 months ago

                        One month until he starts training, but of course he is save for more than three weeks, you are right.... Zinchenko is a rotation risk I guess.

                7. Miguel Sanchez
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  Captain:

                  A) Auba at home to Burnley
                  B) Salah away at Southampton

                  1. Botman and Robben
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    B.

                  2. Respect My Authoritah
                    • 10 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Most likely rolling with A. Hoping we'll get some news indicating a couple of the big guns will be back

                  3. Eytexi
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    B

                  4. EMBOLOFAN
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    a

                  5. Rinseboy
                    • 12 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    B at this early stage of the season

                  6. _nod
                    • 10 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    I'm on A, but B isn't an option for me.

                  7. Champ
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Salah safer imo

                8. diesel001
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  An old story, which I just read. Pretty poor that most of the PL clubs don't pay a living wage. Clearly not enough money in the game. Fair play though to Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool and West Ham for doing so.

                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49288182

                  1. Brosstan
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Expected an article about Danny Rose.

                9. Champ
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  A free transfer is like a plain bun. Some nutrition but not that tasty. 2fts is like having a juicy burger in it innit. If you want pickle, cheese, onion, ketchup/mustard, lettuce, tomato then wait a few weeks and hand over your wildcard at the counter. Thank you. R McD.

                  1. diesel001
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    I am against beef burgers as they are bad for the environment and are a factor in climate change.

                    (Just kidding, but I know it will trigger some people on here)