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How has Firmino compared to Salah and Mané so far this season?

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Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) has made a strong start to the season with two goals and two assists in the first four Gameweeks.

That has made for a total of 27 points, two more than colleague Sadio Mané (£11.5m) and nine short of Mohamed Salah (£12.5m).

Such a score after four matches is made all the more impressive when we consider that Firmino is now by far the cheapest attacking option in Liverpool’s FPL ranks.

The Brazilian represents a £3.0m saving compared to Salah, and can also offer £2.0m in cash compared to Mané.

Despite his potential value, he currently sits in just 11.7% of teams while Mané is owned by 18.9% and Salah 42.9%.

With that in mind, we have assessed whether more Fantasy managers should turn to Firmino from Gameweek 5 onwards.

As this article uses data from the Fantasy Football Scout Members Area, only those who have signed up for the 2019/20 season can access it in full.

How has Firmino compared against Salah and Mané so far?

Lessons learned from Gameweek 4

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  1. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Nice

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  2. Buck The Trent
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Salah > Mane for moi

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    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Is that a 'greater than' sign or an arrow indicating direction of trade?

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      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Very ambiguous

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        1. St Pauli Walnuts
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Could have been worse, might have used ≥

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      2. SweepaKeepa
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        This always confuses me too.

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  3. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    I love Bobby but I do not know if he is a better FPL option than Salah.

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    1. lilmessipran
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      No one's claiming that..the article just gives a perspective on if he is or can be "better value" than Mo or mane

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    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      If you're not gonna captain Salah too much over the next few GWs then Firmino might be the better value option.

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      1. Party time
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Mané will simply outscore Firmino this season if no injuries. The only reason why he might not outscore salah is because Mo is on pen & some corners. Sadio still scored the same number of goals as Salah last season even with the extra pen duty assigned to salah

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          1. FPL.team
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Loads more assists for Salah toom

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          2. Warby84
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Less assists just shows how greedy mane is...

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            1. Party time
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Salah had most of his assists from set piece situations, penalties when Milner on the pitch & rebounds. Mané unselfishly gave Mo an assist against burnley but he found the pole, whereas we all saw what Salah did last gameweek.(Don't get me wrong, I like all 3 and they are good players)

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        • jason_ni
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          He isn't, but it's what you do with the cash, salah and 4.0 vs firminho and TAA.. which looks better?!

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          1. FOO FIGHTER
            • 4 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            I have TAA, VVD and Salah. That looks better.

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            1. FPL.team
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Not sure that's the point...

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          2. Eze Really?
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            I chose the latter.
            I have Mane Bobby Sterling KDB as possible captains

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            1. Greasy Grealish Gang
              • 4 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Looks spicy! I like it

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      2. Chelsea91
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        I have salah mane sterling kdb yeah

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        1. DeathoftheParty
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Rest of the team must be a dog's dinner...

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          1. Chelsea91
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            No mate

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            1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Defence ain't pretty

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      3. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        To quote long-time Scoutcaster Joe, owning Firmino could help turn the shield of going either Salah or Mané into a double-edged Liverpool sword.

        lol

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        1. Eze Really?
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Bobby in the form of his life atm. Only a matter of time it shows in FPL

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      4. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        I have already played my WC and happy with my squad but just coming up with some WC ideas. What about this?

        Pope Button
        TAA Dinge M-Niles Lundstram Rico
        Salah Sterling Lanzini Mount Cantwell
        Vardy Haller Pukki

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        1. Chelsea91
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Rico to kelly?

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          1. FPL.team
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Kelly price is about to drop hard with Tomkins and Sakho back, I'd avoid him...

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            1. JonBoy
              • 10 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              It'll drop to the 4.0 which is the price most people bought him at, if he loses his place. Unlikely he would drop hard as a fifth choice as it won't be a priority transfer.

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              1. FPL.team
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                This isn't about having him at 4.0m this is about buying him now at 4.1m. Not worth the risk imo.

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        2. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Happy with Mount?

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          1. FOO FIGHTER
            • 4 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Unless you want Cabellos or James? Mount best option here.

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            1. FOO FIGHTER
              • 4 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              This is not my team though. Just an idea different to the current template.

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        3. The Left Duke #3
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          KDB is a must for anyone playing a WC with those fixtures

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          1. Warby84
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            I still think at his price point I’m tempted to move to Son in a couple of weeks... Mix things up a bit..

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            1. The Left Duke #3
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              So KDB to Son would be an easy transfer as they are around the same price. Get some of KDB's lush fixtures and watch Spurs and wait til they click

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              1. Warby84
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                This is what I’m waiting for

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                1. The Left Duke #3
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  You have me thinking the same now lol

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              2. bench boost for every gamew…
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                if KDB is not injured i think this point is moot. You can´t sell him, he will skyrocket in price and will bring points almost every week. Only way to have Son is to have another team structure that allows it. 3 cheap strikers, where one is Firmino or Vardy, alongside no Sterling, and a decent but not too expensive defense can give you Son/Pepe.

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                1. Warby84
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  I still think son can go on an explosive run like last year and match DeBruyne.. It won’t make it difficult to get DeBruyne back if needed..

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          2. FOO FIGHTER
            • 4 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            This is true and it comes down to whether you want Salah or Sterling.

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      5. Darthshearer
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Who's WC then this round?

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        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Not quite enough fires to put out

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      6. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        People playing catch up. Think ahead peeps. Get Spurs & Arsenal.

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        1. Cok3y5murf
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Can't afford due to Pool + City triple ups.

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        2. Valar(Keith)
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          It's so early in the season that I'm not sure if I'm playing catchup or doing well lol. Maybe in gw 30 🙂

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Every week the WC's are full of similar players. At the start it was Martial. Then Mount & Pukki. Now KdB.

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        3. Pompel
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Means no Mané over Salah, or dwongrade Sterlign or KDB for me. Have Kane, but very tempted to swap for Auba

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        4. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Absolutely not.

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Give it a week or two. Promise.

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            1. bench boost for every gamew…
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              WCing is all about plans, and letting price structure give you easy routes to what could come. And for me, that includes priorities and and compromises. And, i want to play with more fun and more points sources. For me then, KDB is a mainstay, Sterling is the compromise, oe of Salah or Mane, plus you can then have Firmino/Vardy AND Son/Pepe and still have 3 decent defenders 6.5,5.5, 5.5 and a 4.5. Yes you might lose a premium captaincy, but you have one and four players that can be captained. Hence why i chose Kun, so i´ll be able in gw7 to readjust to get some of those mentioned in for their prime fixtures. Yes, City have good fixtures but you wil lalso want some of them others when they have so that´s my thinking. I think we are on the same boat.

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        5. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Good advice, want to get at least one of Pepe/Son in the next couple of GWs

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            If I had a WC I would look at Son & Auba & Otamendi.

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            1. Pompel
              • 10 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              One should choose only one out of Son, KDB or Pepé in that price bracket, at least if going with two captainable preiums in addition. Can't be swapping all the time due to price rises, will deplete your TV. So I'm sticking with KDB.

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              1. Christina.
                • 14 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                I would just tweak some of the combos...eg KdB + Auba or Son and Kun or Son & Auba.

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        6. Respect My Authoritah
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          City have the best fixtures so KDB makes sense over any Spurs or Arsenal imo.

          Perhaps dropping Salah soon is an idea...

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          1. FOO FIGHTER
            • 4 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            I do not believe dropping and Salah are words that should be in the same sentance.

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        7. Hasselbaink Forever - Defoe…
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          What Spurs asset appeals to you?

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            son

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            1. WWF
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              And Toby Aldweireld !!!

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      7. JohnBlack
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        How bad is Trossards injury?

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        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Its a bit concerning as I think he would have had a good chance of starting for Belgium with Hazard out.

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        2. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Groin

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        3. Respect My Authoritah
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Missed this...when did this happen?!

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          1. Rasping Drive
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            https://www.google.com.tr/amp/s/www.theargus.co.uk/sport/17884636.amp/

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      8. GOAT614
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        WC team...Please help guys.
        Any other 4.5 or below defenders to recommend?

        Pope
        TAA Lundstram Digne
        Salah KDB D.Silva Mount
        Aguero Pukki Barnes
        Button Lowton Cantwell Soyuncu

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        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Mings or Soy?

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          1. GOAT614
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Yeah i have Soy already. Anyone below 6.0 in your consideration to replace Mount as getting short of funds.
            Thanks,

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        2. The Left Duke #3
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Mings or Dunk the only other ones I am considering with Lowton or Soy.

          Not sure on the Silva pick with rotation imminent. I personally would downgrade and upgrade a DF to Otamendi

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          1. GOAT614
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Iam planning to do that but wanna try giving silva a few weeks as a differential to see if he starts.

            What do you think of Iwobi?

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            1. The Left Duke #3
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              He;s not on my radar at all to be honest. Always thought he was inconsistent with Arsenal and seen much of him this season.

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              1. GOAT614
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                I see. Anyone else in that price range you looking at?

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        3. Jebiga
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          One blank from Barnes and Aguero and Sterlo hatty will ruin your team 🙂

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        4. Ajax Hamsterdam
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          V nice team . Lowton rotates well with mings

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      9. dshv
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Is it worth to bench Digne over Lundstram because i have Wilson in the attack??

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        1. Warby84
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          No

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        2. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          No, play Digne

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        3. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          No, why would you want to bench Digne?

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          1. The Left Duke #3
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Because he has Wilson in attack maybe 🙂

            I agree though, play Digne. He has the ability to pick up attacking points even if he concedes

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        4. Squeakybum99
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          You play Digne for his attacking returns.

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      10. Jebiga
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        VVD to TAA for - 4 ?
        I would like to have TAA all season long...

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        1. Respect My Authoritah
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Nah

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        2. Ajax Hamsterdam
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Not worth a hit imo

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        3. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          If it is long term and want to avoid price rise then I would say yes.

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        4. The Left Duke #3
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          No.
          I'm on a WC and have TAA but am contemplating VVD to upgrade in attack

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      11. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        If Liverpool are fourth worst on the ticker then maube the ticker needs looking at. I wouldn't bet against their attack in any of the fixtures mentioned

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        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          *maybe

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        2. Respect My Authoritah
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Yep, not sure the ticker makes sense at all tbh. Far too simplistic

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        3. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          No defence is safe vs Pool attack.

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        4. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Yeah, good point. I only use the ticker to judge clean sheets.

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        5. Oscar Slater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          I've said for years that the Ticker needs are-vamp. I remember last year it pointed towards a Huddersfield triple up!

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        6. Drexl Spivey
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Yeah, I just got into the habit of making my own. As the weeks go on a bit of common sense comes into a play, and none of these tables take into account the eye test.

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        7. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Agreed

          I’m really sceptical about how highly it rates Arsenal defence for instance. To me that’s blue. Can’t help but think there’s a really strong historical bias to it.

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      12. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        A taa and otamendi

        Or

        B vvd and digne

        Thank you

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        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          A

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          1. Ajax Hamsterdam
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Thanks foo fighter

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        2. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          A, for me

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          1. Ajax Hamsterdam
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Thanks

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        3. Shineonme
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          A

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      13. Jebiga
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Is stones nailed now after Laporte knee surgery ?

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        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Go Otamendi if you can but yes Stones should be nailed.

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        2. Arctic_Orangutans
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          when fit yes

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        3. Dion D's Solo Shower
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          It's all about that LCB spot. Ota played the majority of his games last season in that position. Stones and Fernandinho to rotate for that RCB spot - perhaps even Walker.
          So Ota is the safest pick between the two.

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      14. Arctic_Orangutans
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        De Bruyne and Guilbert
        Or
        TAA and Cantwell

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        1. Ajax Hamsterdam
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Kdb but beware Guilbert not nailed

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          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            this

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      15. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Salah and Firmino owner here in the wild. I’m thinking of selling him after the Newcastle game, strangely enough to free up funds for TAA or a switch to Lacazette if he looks like starting against easier opposition.

        He’s been quite the differential so far. Hope he returns safe and sound from Brazil and starts vs Newcastle.

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        1. Ajax Hamsterdam
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Well done for owning him..consider switch to vardy?

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          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            The way he took his goals vs Bournemouth was incredible. Looks like he’s full of confidence. Mind you, every striker scores home to Bournemouth 🙂

            I thought Leicester may struggle for goals at the start but they could now be clicking into gear. Ill see how they do vs Man U.

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      16. Drexl Spivey
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Funny, I'd have thought it was a better time to bring Auba in, given the fixtures. There's almost a case to go Salahless for a few weeks to fund it.

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        1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Not as explosive on the wing, not interested in him until Lacazette is injured

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        2. Ajax Hamsterdam
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Fixtures are asesome but Salah still a better pick imo

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            you can have both

            Heaton
            TAA Ota Soy
            Salah Sterling KdB Mcginn Cantwell
            Auba Pukki

            Lundy Kelly 4.5m

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            1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Otamendi not nailed enough for my liking, what with Fernandinho very comfortably getting converted to CB

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              1. Christina.
                • 14 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Take him out then. Easy. Pointing out all the big hitters one can one.

                I'm 3 trades away from that if I sell Kun.

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                1. Christina.
                  • 14 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  *own

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                  1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Fair enough. Certainly a viable tactic

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              2. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                People on here deluded about Otta not being nailed........With Laporte out he is the ONLY left sided CB at City. Talk of Walker and Fern only will apply to cup games and easy CL games and a lot of other issues at City back line need to be kept tight with Zinc not first choice and Walker having a great sea on so far.

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            2. Pompel
              • 10 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Pretty much what I'm looking at. Have Mané + Digne instead of Salah + Ota atm. Scared of going Salah-less, as much as I'd hate to lose Digne....

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              1. Christina.
                • 14 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                I'm also Salah less. I need to get Digne back asap. Digne + mane over Salah +Ota for me I reckon.

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              2. Shineonme
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                I have Digne + mane instead of Salah + ota

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        3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Yeah I'm in that boat (see below)

          I have to say the seats aren't too comfortable at the minute - you never know though

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        4. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          We don't get given enough FTs to justify flip-flopping between big hitters.

          I'd rather use them to put out fires on the ship, than painting the sail.

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      17. The Real Big Vern
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Why isnt Martial dropping? His ownership is back to where it was prior to his first rise?

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        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Could be them there wildcards

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        2. Amanda Staveley
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          so annoying.... I took him out assuming he would drop 0.1 so I could get him back in for the price i sold him.... i think he will still drop towards the end of next week?!

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      18. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Thinking of selling Sterling soon. I could spread the money better

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        1. el polako
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Brave move, Sterling is a season keeper for me.

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        2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Honestly, I'd say don't... Not sure why he blanked v Brighton, but he's an OOP forward playing in the best attack in the league - just leave him be unless injured

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          1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            He was last season as well, and he was very much famine or feast then as well... If i can sell him, Moura, and Barnes to get Son de Bruyne and Haller I think it's well worth it.

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          2. St Pauli Walnuts
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Not sure that’s true, playing as a winger really not striker. He barely got a touch against Brighton and if he’d have been playing where Aguero was (as he covered in charity shield and pre season) he’d have been in the goals.

            Not saying he is a bad option by any means and I’m keeping, just don’t think he is OOP.

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            1. el polako
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Playing as winger he often ends up right in front of the goal for easy tap ins.

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              1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                • 14 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                This - the amount of time he spends in extremely advanced positions is crazy, he also seems to have less defensive responsibilities than Kun somehow

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              2. St Pauli Walnuts
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Yes true, think that is more just because he has great timing and positional sense overall though. Guess my point is that if he was playing as striker outright, I think he would be getting 30 odd goals rather than 20 odd a season as an attacking winger.

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        3. Shineonme
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          I've had Sterling from the start and will keep him all season unless he gets injured or is rotated to many times for my liking.

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      19. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        How much is no Salah going to sting with this lineup in GW5... I put faith in Son & Kane ahead of that run of fixtures with Eriksen back and hopefully Lamela dropped...

        Pope
        TAA, VVD, Digne, Lundy
        Raz, KDB, Son, Mount
        Pukki, Kane (c)
        (Button, Cantwell, Kelly, Wickham)

        If Kane doesn't deliver with captaincy I think that pair are looking at being booted out for Mo + a 7-8m striker

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        1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          It could pay off, but I think it's too early. Spurs could take a few weeks to get back into the groove of things, especially with the international break taking the vast majority of their players away.

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          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Yeah it's so hard to know with Spurs what the hell way they're going to play

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            1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              I'm sure they'll come back soon however. Their only weakness, once their midfield is up to date, are their fullbacks, and they aren't tremendous weaknesses either. Son especially tempts me a lot, his PP90 last season was something else

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        2. Warby84
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          I’m tempted to go DeBruyne to Son from GW 7 Sot(h) as I have Sterling.. Not sure I want to get Kane back this season after having to restructure on WC.. For me Salah is not going anywhere after letting him leave for a brief spell last season..

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        3. Pompel
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          I'd lose VVD for £4.5 for now (Soy/Lowton?), and spend money on upgrading Son, Kane or the combo. E.g. Mo + Vardy/Firmino

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        4. Little fekirs
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Weren’t you the same guy saying Salah is so cheap and a must own, stick to your guns.

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      20. Stormbringer22
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Hi all, would love your opinion on what to do here for gw5. Current squad is:

        Pickford
        TAA | Digne | Zinchenko | AWB
        Salah (C) | Sterling (V) | Martial | Mount
        King | Pukki

        Bench: Button, Kelly, Dendoncker, Greenwood
        1 FT, £1.8 ITB, WC is available.

        Would you:
        1) Use the FT and if so what change?
        2) Hold
        3) WC?

        All comments are appreciated!

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        1. Pompel
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          1) Good team, no need to WC. Upgrade King to Tammy or Haller

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          1. Stormbringer22
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            That was more what I was leaning towards myself. I personally like the look of Haller, hopefully Martial is fit as well and performs well. Thank you for the suggestion!

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        2. Spacemonkey
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          I would wait for AWB and Martial news.
          One option would be Pickford to Pope and Greenwood to Tammy (you'll be priced out on this soon though). King has very good fixtures ahead.

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          1. Stormbringer22
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            That is a very good shout, I haven't considered that as an option before. Hmmm... just not convinced with Tammy. Do you have him in your team?

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            1. Spacemonkey
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              No, I don't own him and I agree that Haller would be better choice (at least for month or two). As you have Mount already, Barnes would be an option too.

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              1. Spacemonkey
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                PS. No need to WC, of course, nice team.

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                1. Stormbringer22
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 4 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  Good suggestions there, thank you. Food for thought...

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      21. Longlatini
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Senegal are due to play Guinea on Sept 20th

        Will this effect Mane’s minutes for Liverpool that weekend when they play Chelsea?

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        1. JonBoy
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Possibly. Though John Henry has been known to give players use of the private jet to get them back!

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        2. Gregor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Two days before? There’s surely no way Mané plays in that game.

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        3. BoomXhakaLaca1
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          I think someone on here said you have to play in the Senegal league or something to play this game? Not 100% sure though

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          1. Longlatini
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Same fixture clash happens in October too

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          2. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Mane is not in this game, pre agreement with LFC...........this was posted on here earlier this week

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          3. Longlatini
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Ah ok

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          4. Andy'81
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Aye, this is the comp

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Nations_Championship

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            1. BoomXhakaLaca1
              • 11 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Can't imagine the standard of football being the best lol

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      22. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        NEW, che, and mun are all great attacking fixtures for Liverpool, and shu and LEI aren't awful either. Makes one think twice about selling Salah...

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        1. Gregor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Don’t sell Salah.

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          1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            I won't... yet 😛 after NEW and che I'm strongly considering. Just don't have enough money

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            1. Markus
              • 14 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Yep, this... but who for? you then miss arsenal's great next 2 immediate fixtures, man city you'll already have triple up. Son + who to upgrade. That is my dilemma, can't see anyone else 7.5m+ that I don't have that screams outstanding value. Vardy?

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          2. FOO FIGHTER
            • 4 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            THIS

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      23. beastie
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        a) Hanley & McGinn/Ceballos
        b) Maitland-Niles & Guendouzi

        I'm favouring b due to fixyures but what do others think? Hanley would likely be bench fodder most weeks.

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        1. Gregor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Arsenal’s defence looks poor anyway, go A.

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      24. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Emerson and Ceballos amongst the assists for Italy and Spain yesterday, Pukki from the penalty spot for Finland too.

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        1. Gregor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Is Pukki on pens for Norwich?

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            might be...Vranic not getting gametime

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          2. Miguel Sanchez
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Vrancic was first choice last season and Pukki only took one that he missed last year. However, Vrancic isn't starting so I can imagine Pukki is on pens for Norwich.

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            1. Gregor
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Cheers.

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          3. St Pauli Walnuts
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Good question

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          4. Shineonme
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            I understand by what my Norwich friend said, he is.

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        2. JonBoy
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Ceballos involved in both goals. Wins pen, assists the assister for the other with outside of boot pass.

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      25. Best value Liverpool attacker - Who’s your money on?
        LangerznMash
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Salah 36 points for £12.5m = 2.88 pp£m
        Mane 25 points for £11.5m - 2.17 pp£m
        Firmino 27 points for £9.5m = 2.84 pp£m

        The most basic formula shows Salah and Firmino basically the same value, however Mane result is skewwed because he only made a cameo sub appearance in 1st game.

        Salah 36 points in 348 mins = 9.67 mpp
        Mane 25 points in 266 mins = 10.64 mpp
        Firmino 27 in 344 mins = 12.74 mpp

        Value based on cost x points per minute.
        Salah 9.67 x 12.5 = 120.8
        Mane 10.64 x 11.5 = 122.36
        Firmino 12.74 x 9.5 = 121.03

        If they had all played the same amount of minutes, their value is basically identical.

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        1. Gregor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Salah on penalties and a better Captaincy option though. Doubling up on the attack is definitely tempting.

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        2. Pompel
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          But if captaining, its the total points that count. So Salah.

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        3. CL4PTRAP
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Cheers for the post. Double up looks on at some point.

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        4. Party time
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Great post

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          • FOO FIGHTER
            • 4 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Salah is bound to play every match and will most likely have more points come end season but interesting to see the current points per minute.

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          • Camino Aleatorio
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Much to consider here. Salah gives you a captain but makes you sacrifice a lot of money in other positions

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          • CONNERS
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Firmino definitely looking like a better option than in previous years.

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          • Piggs Boson
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Compared to all the players in the game, that's not great value for any of them. You'd get a lot more bang for your buck elsewhere.

            Unless you're captaining one...

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            1. Markus
              • 14 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              This! I feel like there must be a better use of salah money but can't find sufficient 9m+ players (kdb only one) that offer significantly better value?
              With martial, Mount, pukki, Abraham, haller all offering value, you've really got to find an upgrade to one of them and a downgrade to Salah that proves better use of funds.

              The only 4 who have a chance for me for 'value' are pepe, son, lacazette and vardy... All have question marks for me though

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          • Cok3y5murf
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Small sample, but Firmino is doing better than last season. Unfortunately for him, he's classified as a forward even though he drops deeper than Mane and Salah, so not sure if he can keep it up. Also not explosive enough to captain.

            Will be a coin toss throughout the season between the other two as Mane will often keep up with Salah once again.

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          • tets mcgee (Bachmann an Rob…
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Am I the only 1 who thinks firminos points per minute have been calculated wrongly?27 in 344 should not better 36 in just 4 extra mins

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            1. tets mcgee (Bachmann an Rob…
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Further more to give value you should divide by cost not multiply.. these figures are non sensical and misleading.

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            2. MTPockets
                4 years, 7 months ago

                To be fair it's written as mpp not ppm
                But yes it then makes the value numbers wrong

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                1. tets mcgee (Bachmann an Rob…
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  ah yes my bad

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                  1. MTPockets
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      You're still right though - should really say:

                      Salah 36 points in 348 mins = 0.103 ppm
                      Mane 25 points in 266 mins = 0.094 ppm
                      Firmino 27 in 344 mins = 0.078 ppm

                      Value based on points per minute / cost.
                      Salah 0.103 / 12.5 = 0.0082
                      Mane 0.094 / 11.5 = 0.0082
                      Firmino 0.078 / 9.5 = 0.0083

                      Same value statement

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              • IRBOX ⚽
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Has to be Salah. Anything else is settling for second best

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              • DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Just looked at a WC side with:

                Mane Firmino TAA
                Sterling KDB Otamendi

                ..which allows for a 352 with in my case Mount Pukki Cantwell and a 5.0 4.5 4.5 rest of defence.

                Salah terrifies me and I know the concept of cover etc...but this looks like a side with more firepower all round...

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                1. Eze Really?
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  More or less my side.

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              • Eze Really?
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Bobby for me. Allows KDB and Sterling with TAA at the back.
                More a choice of balance than real value. I won't lose too much ground with Sterling, Bobby, KDB and Mane to choose as captains.

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              • Bennison
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                I would've chose Mane over Salah any day but I'm scared of Salah's EO as soon as Mane blanks and Salah hauls going to fall rank a lot. You'd have to invest that 1m pretty damn well if it was Mane price last year of 3m less it would be easy to find a top quality upgrade to keep pace with the EO of Salah

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              • lespaul
                • 14 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Cost was multiplied by mpp, not ppm!

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            3. Piggs Boson
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              This could finally be the day Scotland overtake Kazakhstan in Euro qualifying. Big day for the nation.

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              1. Longlatini
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Historic for sure

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              2. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Who ??

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              3. Andy'81
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Better get the Irn Bru in just in case.

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              4. el polako
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                As long as Joshua King plays they should be alright.

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            4. Amanda Staveley
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              WC Team (will play 451 or 541) –
              ____ 4.0
              ____ Otamendi 3 x 4.5 (Soyunco Mings Lascelles)
              Salah Sterling KDB Mane ____
              Pukki 4.4 4.4

              1 - Pope, TAA, Cantwell
              2 - Adrian, Alderweireld, Mount

              Option 1 or 2?

              Also the 4.5 defenders - suggest the best 3?

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              1. Miguel Sanchez
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                1

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                1. Amanda Staveley
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  Pope is safer bet long term
                  TAA risk of rotation around champions league is a concern given my bench players (2 out of 3 dont play)
                  Cantwell will rotate with a defender.

                  If I can see past not having TAA i think option 2 could be good? but will use transfers when Alisson is back?

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                  1. Markus
                    • 14 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    If you're worried about none starters, and TAA play time, how about vvd+ayew upgrade for one of 4.4s? mings > Lundstram if need to make up £s

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                    1. Amanda Staveley
                      • 7 Years
                      4 years, 7 months ago

                      I like that! thanks Markus!

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              2. Christina.
                • 14 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                1 all day long

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              3. Ask Yourself
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Love 1 really cool team just really annoying about your bench as when UCL rotation kicks in you’re in trouble.

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                1. Ask Yourself
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  The rotating 3 I came up with were Lundstram (or baldock), Montoya and Aarons

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                  1. Amanda Staveley
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 7 months ago

                    Cheers! If switched to VVD over TAA as suggested above then VVD and Otamendi are nailed on I think!

                    2 best defences in the league right?

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              4. Eddie
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                If playing 4 or 5 at the back I'd want better defenders. Not sure the money spent in midfield is worth the lost points in defence.

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              5. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                I have WC to something very similar, but I bought in Matip for LFC cover with Otta and have Barnes up front and Cant in midfield ,......if this helps

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                1. Amanda Staveley
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  I looked at Matip, but then got sucked into trying to own TAA.

                  I like the VVD suggestion above... especially with roatation risk with Champions League.

                  Seems sensible with a weak bench!

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              6. CONNERS
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                That is one juicy midfield.

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                1. Amanda Staveley
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  🙂

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            5. CONNERS
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Hi all

              Any thoughts/feedback on this WC team?

              Thanks

              Pope
              TAA - Digne - Zinchenko - Lundstram
              Salah - Sterling - Tielemans - McGinn
              Aguero - Barnes

              Button / Soyuncu - Cantwell - Nketiah

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              1. Markus
                • 14 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Otamendi feels marginally safer than Zinchenko depending on Laporte news. I'd fancy a punt on Ceballos over mcginn but minor tweak... I like it.

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                1. Warby84
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  Laporte has had an Operation on knee, so not looking like he will be back any time soon

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                2. ritzyd
                  • 6 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  He had surgery, unlikely to be back before January.

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              2. CONNERS
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Cheers, yes will keep an eye on the Zinch situation with Mendy due back soon.

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