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Firmino falls foul of rotation as Salah and Mané start for Liverpool

Rotation inspired by the Champions League has finally arrived in the Premier League as Liverpool host Newcastle this afternoon.

Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) has fallen foul of it at Anfield, dropping to the bench with Divock Origi (£5.4m) leading the Reds’ line. Perhaps that is no surprise as the Brazilian was in action for his country in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

Ahead of a packed fixture list with seven games in 21 days, Jurgen Klopp has also opted to give Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (£6.3m) his first league start of 2019/20 at the expense of captain Jordan Henderson (£5.5m).

Liverpool’s defensive quartet remains unchanged in the form of Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.1m), Virgil Van Dijk (£6.5m), Joel Matip (£5.5m) and Andy Robertson (£6.9m) with Adrian (£4.6m) continuing to marshall the backline in the absence of Alisson (£5.8m). 

Klopp’s decision to rest both Henderson and Firmino is telling of the packed fixture list that sits on the horizon, yet this may also point to a propensity for rotation within Liverpool’s squad over the winter months, but for now the highly owned attacking assets of Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) and Saido Mane (£11.5m) retain their starting berths. 

Steve Bruce has opted to make just one change to the Newcastle side who drew with Watford last time out, with Jonjo Shelvey (£5.0m) earning a start in place of Sean Longstaff (£5.0m). 

The attacking option in the form of Shelvey as opposed to the more defensively-orientated Longstaff could be telling of Bruce’s plans to play swift, counter-attacking football against the Reds, but the likes of Fabien Schar (£5.0m), Jamal Lascelles (£4.5m) Paul Dummett (£4.5m) and Emil Krafth (£4.5m) will have to be on top of their game at Anfield to take anything from the side who currently sit 1st in the Premier League going into Gameweek 5. 

Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Adrian; Alexander-Arnold, Van Dijk, Matip, Robertson; Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Oxlade-Chamberlain; Mane, Salah, Origi.

Newcastle XI (5-3-2): Dubravka, Schar, Lascelles, Dummett, Krafth, Hayden, Shelvey, Willems, Atsu, Joelinton, Almiron.

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  1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    I’m not even going to tempt fate by typing that if Kane somehow manages a brace today there’ll be talk of Salah out to fund Kane, it would simply tempt fate & be followed by a Salah hattrick in the second half

    1. Random Name
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Poor top post

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        If you want quality posts you’re in wrong place 😉

        1. The Big Fella
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Hahahahahahahah

    2. Pacer.
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Got my C on Special K

    3. Homer21
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      You're right, don't do it!

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        I’m definitely not going to, no way 🙂

    4. Typo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Please. Kane is a dead fantasyoption, cant trust him

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Shhhh... don’t tempt fate!

      2. Pacer.
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        You don't need to trust an 11.5 he just needs to be good value

        1. Pacer.
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          11 even

  2. Jafooli
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Team sheets for 3pm KO's?

    1. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Good second post

    2. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      35 mins too early to ask

      1. fr3d
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        C’mon Diesel. Every time

  3. fr3d
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Salah is ass

    1. Random Name
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Try Crochet

  4. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    % of owners in top 10K for Mane and who assisted for the second goal ?

    1. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Juuuhhuuuu

    2. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      EO for mane is 15% in top 10k

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks Christina. Shame on you Jafooli

  5. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Mane and Pepe > Salah, from fpl point over view

    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Why is that?

    2. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Pepe, LOL!

      1. Random Name
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        why is that so funny?

        1. Rainer
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          The African Bebe shouldn’t be named beside Salah & Mane in any regard.

    3. HurriKane
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Pepe is a poor mans bolasie

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Pepe upcoming fixtures and history records disagree!!!

        1. Rainer
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Is he on pens?

        2. SADIO SANÉ
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          jesus, I thought you were joking

    4. The Chosen One...
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Pepe not even a better option than James

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        You will all see. Check Arsenal fixtures

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          ARS : wat 126 AVL 454 mun -91 BOU 511 shu 54 CRY 334 WOL 340 lei -4 SOU 545 nor 102 BHA 514 whu 40 MCI -96 eve -39

  6. pjomara
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Will Mane's strop last time make him more or less likely to be subbed?

    1. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Origi injury might mess up that sub, Salah off for Shaq perhaps.

    2. Unliklinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      I appreciate that you're probably being ironic. It won't make any difference at all. Klopp was like a whippet defending both Mane and Salah in that one.

  7. mrodgers91
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Knee jerk time, salah > mane

  8. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Trent, Salah and pukki to Willems mane and firmino is tempting

    1. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Wait until GW is over in case Redmond also goes large....

    2. Rash
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      If you do it before FT you'll get their points

    3. Little fekirs
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Great moves, do it.

    4. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Willems lol.

    5. Ambrosiana Inter
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Looool

    6. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Oh my. Do it Demba

    7. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Willems scores once every 2 years

  9. HurriKane
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Who went safe with Salah(C) over Sterling ?

    Not looking good so far

    1. FPL_Gyarados
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Same

      1. HurriKane
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Went sterling btw . Talked him up all week .lets see

    2. Rash
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Salah playing?

    3. BobbyV
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      That wasn't safe lol even before the game

  10. Plant Based FPLer
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Scout selections is losing credibility. Will it be Mane next week now? It's Chelsea though, so neither I guess.

    1. Peter Ouch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Cmon mate, can you really predict who's gonna score?
      One week is Salah next Mane
      Stop blaming them.
      No one can predict it.
      Just stick with the one you own

      1. Plant Based FPLer
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Actually, I didn't even read the scout selection article. And the game isn't over so I should keep my mouth shut.

    2. Rostah
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      It's ridiculous that they aren't psychic isn't it. How dare they make an educated guess at what players will do well in any given GW. Why don't they just buy an updated version of Greys Sports Almanac for pete's sake!

      1. Plant Based FPLer
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Alright, alright. I felt salty after saying it to be fair. I don't know how to pick one over the other either. I was poking fun at the thought of picking one or the other after they've scored. Maybe that's not what they're doing.

  11. Peter Ouch
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    The question is liverpool defence now not Salah vs Mane.

    They have conceded not because they can't defend but it was a moment of magic. Taa is sending him on his weak foot and he just does something that he will never repeat.
    With this schedule it's better to downgrade to 1 def.
    But whom

    1. Warby84
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      I have VVD and TAA but tempted to go VD to otamendi for next GW if no other pressing issues

    2. Random Name
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Liverpool are fixture proof wtf

      1. Peter Ouch
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Not for a double up in defence

    3. BoomXhakaLaca1
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      You shouldn't leave a player an opportunity to go towards goal weak foot or strong foot shouldn't matter. It's basic defending, if your 40 yards out its different

      1. BoomXhakaLaca1
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Towards goal in the box

      2. Peter Ouch
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        So how can you approach him?
        How can you block both feet.

        He did really good.

        1. BoomXhakaLaca1
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          He did really good by letting him score... That's awful logic lmao. Should've forced him wide

  12. potatoace
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    A rival of mine has Kun and sterling, but decided to triple Capt Salah today.

    The outcome of this match aside, I'm still struggling to understand the thought process behind this decision

    1. Random Name
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Doesn't sound like much of a "rival"

    2. nxh84
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Maybe you should ask him after the gw5 dust settled

    3. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Still another 45 minutes to go.

      1. potatoace
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Out of all 38 games Why would you consider this match a TC opportunity though, seems strange to me

  13. Dacra
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Spend ages on WC, frustrated after 45 mins 😀

    1. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Try Dioralyte

    2. Tshelby
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      This

    3. Rostah
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Tis why we love this game

  14. 1zverGGadeM
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Robbo goal + 3 bps with Salah assist could do it for me.

  15. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Recency bias is at all time high here. 45 minutes of one football match can completely transform the way some people view their teams...

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      The way Salah is being written off is quite breathtaking

      Emotions are obviously running high

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        If he didn't have penalties , Mane would have been the obvious choice

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Very true.

          But if my aunt had testicles she would be my uncle though so I don’t know what to believe

          1. Top Lad Dakes.
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            lmao

          2. Ambrosiana Inter
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Or like da campo said if my auntie had wheels she d been a bike

            1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
              • 14 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              He’s pulling your leg - if she had 3 wheels she’d actually be a tricycle, and if she had 4 wheels she’d be a car or a van or some sort of mid sized motor vehicle

              I’d keep an eye on da campo if I were you - not to be trusted!!

              1. Ambrosiana Inter
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Ahhahaha they r back in the USA with Gordon Ramsey and that french lad

      2. IRBOX ⚽
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        People are so silly

      3. Warby84
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Same happened last year, look what happened..

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          FPL Darwinism in action 😉

    2. the Penman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Hello, welcome to “match days in FFS”. Take a seat, tea and coffee will be served shortly.

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        😀

        Coffee is a good shout...

      2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        And to think people actually complain about this circus 🙂

  16. Annie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Hope it’s a lifetime ban

    1. IRBOX ⚽
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      For whom?

    2. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      For?

  17. NED KELLY
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Mane is better than Salah.. just saying

    1. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      He doesn't have penalties

    2. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      This year yep

    3. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      In real life or as an FPL option?

    4. Ambrosiana Inter
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      In bed?

  18. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    @Mark. Will you swap Mane for Salah?

    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Don't think he can hear ya x

    2. Fitzy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      You really expect him to reply to you? 🙄

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        If we upvote it high enough he will. In the past he was posting from time to time

        1. Fitzy.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Him posting and him replying to you aren't the same thing.

          1. Wild Rover
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            He should say ‘stop stalking me weirdo’

    3. Ambrosiana Inter
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Pfffffff

  19. Ambrosiana Inter
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Still can’t understand how martial didn’t drop

    1. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Mark has him

      1. Ambrosiana Inter
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Mark who?dont care about mark

        1. nxh84
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Mark is The Lengend27

          1. Ambrosiana Inter
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Why what has he won?

            1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
              • 14 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Exactly mate. He's just another player who rides his luck. People obsessed on here

  20. JONALDINHO
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Mane(C) making up for that game against Arsenal.

    1. Ambrosiana Inter
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Good one

    2. HollywoodXI
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Well done mate

    3. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Nice one

  21. George Sillett
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    A Salah second half brace would soon change the tone on here.

    1. Garlana
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      I'd love that but he needs to be subbed on first

    2. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      It would indeed. Or any Trent points.

    3. nxh84
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Or a Mane quad. Lol. I hope the banter is fun and light hearted. Some are taking it too seriously.

    4. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      That's what I think will happen. Though I'm middle of the road with both Salah and Mane

  22. Ginkapo FPL
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    I was 1M short of Trossard to Mane

    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Come on Mount

      1. Ambrosiana Inter
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Doomed

    2. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Jinkies.

    3. Random Name
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      spoils of war

    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Responded to your post on Community ... :-0

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        🙂

  23. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Robbo essential.

    1. Random Name
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      not even best scottish left back

      1. Top Lad Dakes.
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        BS

  24. Cok3y5murf
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Wijnaldum misses Robbo assist 🙁

  25. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Robbo's onit now

  26. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    4-2 FT I reckon.

    Salah x 2

    1. luke
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Mane going to get a hattie

      1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        I wouldn't complain 🙂 though gutted I didn't captain

    2. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Far too optimistic - 3-1 with only a Salah assist if we're lucky.

  27. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Salah needs to be more greedy

  28. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Old Salah shoots there...

  29. Joyce1998
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    so whos captained salah?? wishing they had captained sterling
    salah captain here

    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      o

    2. Random Name
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      cya kid

  30. JustPark
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Went Salah(vc) instead of Sterling! KDB better turns up!