Scout Notes

Mané brace brings Salah value into question once again

Liverpool 3-1 Newcastle United

Goals: Sadio Mané (£11.5m) x 2, Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) x 1 | Jetro Willems (£4.5m)

Assists: Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) x 2, Andrew Robertson (£6.9m)

Bonus Points: Mané x 3 Salah x 2 Firmino x 1

Liverpool secured a 3-1 home victory over Newcastle United to maintain their 100% winning start to the 2019/20 Premier League season.

A clinical performance from Jurgen Klopp’s side continues to fuel the fire of the Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) vs Sadio Mané (£11.5m) debate after goalscoring contributions from the attacking duo. 

The lunch-time kick-off was a game that belonged to the Senegalese international after he opened Liverpool’s account with a fine strike, which cancelled out a special effort from Jetro Willems (£4.5m).

Sadio Mané scored twice for Liverpool in their win over Newcastle

Priced at £11.5m, a whole £1.0m less than his counterpart Salah, Mané’s brace alongside three bonus points means that he has now registered two double-digit hauls in 2019/20 – the same as his team-mate.

Mané did start this match as the centre-forward but actually improved once he had returned to his left-wing berth after a tactical switch from the manager.

Despite Salah also scoring in the victory over Newcastle, Mané’s appeal simply continues to grow given his attractive price and an ability to match the £12.5m man.

For managers looking to save the extra £1.0m whilst maintaining essential attacking coverage from Liverpool, opting for Mané is becoming an increasingly enticing option.

Mané then secured his second of the afternoon after poor keeping from Martin Dubravka (£5.0m), but the forward made no mistake to tuck away an important goal.

Salah did not have a particularly impressive afternoon but still found the net against Newcastle

It was initially looking like it would prove a concerning afternoon for owners of the highly popular Egyptian, with Newcastle suppressing his attacking involvement throughout the game.

However, the most captained player for Gameweek 5 lived up to pre-match expectation with a well-taken goal to put the game out of Newcastle’s reach. 

It was a frustrating afternoon for owners of Liverpool’s full-back duo Andy Robertson (£6.9m) and Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.1m), with yet another failure to keep a clean-sheet compounded by a number of missed attacking opportunities.

That said, Robertson did register his first attacking returns of the season with an assist for Mané’s opener. 

Both Robertson and Alexander-Arnold went very close to scoring on Saturday afternoon

For those managers persisting in their faith of a Liverpool defensive double-up, Saturday’s result against Newcastle is yet another blow to the viability of such a selection.

With just one clean sheet in their first five Premier League fixtures, it is becoming difficult to justify investing in more than one of their defenders.

Klopp initially surprised Fantasy managers with his team selection, starting Divock Origi (£5.4m) up-front and dropping Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) to the bench after the Brazilian finished international duty in America in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

Origi only last 35 minutes against Newcastle

However, Firmino was on the pitch after 35 minutes with Origi forced off with an ankle problem.

The centre-forward made a considerable impact with an exquisite assist for Salah’s opener as well as setting up Mané to register an eight-point score from the bench. 

“We don’t want to leave Bobby Firmino out but from time to time we have to be sensible especially after long trips from wherever they come from.” – Jurgen Klopp

Despite the Belgian going off injured, Klopp did allay any concern in his post-match interviews that Origi could be out long-term. 

“Hopefully with (Origi) it’s not too serious. He twisted his ankle and played on but felt it a bit too much.” – Jurgen Klopp

Newcastle’s own attacking assets staked their claim, after Willems opened the scoring with a fine strike in the seventh minute.

After receiving a through ball from Christian Atsu (£5.4m), the full-back found space in front of Alexander-Arnold, who did not apply much pressure, and drilled an outstanding strike beyond the reach of Adrian (£4.6m).

Willems scored a spectacular goal to open the scoring at Anfield

But once Liverpool had found their momentum, there was no doubt as to which side would be collecting all three points. 

Steve Bruce set up the Tyneside outfit in a compact formation that enabled the likes of Jonjo Shelvey (£5.0m) and Miguel Almiron (£5.9m) to form counter-attacks to feed Joelinton (£5.9m), but the attacking overload that Liverpool are so often able to provide was too much for the Magpies. 

Fabian Schar (£4.5m) did leave the Anfield turf injured, but Bruce confirmed that the club was hoping it was an issue of cramp as opposed to a muscle tear. 

“It’s the calf, we’re not sure if it’s cramp or a tear. The medical department say he does suffer from cramp a little bit. We do hope it’s that.” – Steve Bruce

Whilst an upset similar to the 1-0 away win over Spurs was truly on the cards after Willems’ opener, Liverpool’s quality prevailed and the likes of Salah and Mané put Bruce’s side to the sword to continue their perfect winning start to the season. 

Newcastle’s game-plan was evident from the outset, with Steve Bruce’s setting up in a compact formation that provided abilities to break on the counter-attack, but Liverpool’s mesmeric duo in Mané and Salah proved to simply be too much for North-East side as they cruised to an impressive victory. 

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Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Adrian; Robertson, van Dijk, Matip, Alexander-Arnold; Wijnaldum (Shaqiri 84′), Fabinho, Oxlade-Chamberlain (Milner 75′); Origi (Firmino 36′), Mané, Salah.

Newcastle United XI (5-4-1): Dubravka; Willems, Dummett, Lascelles, Schär (Fernandez 80′), Krafth (Manquillo 67′); Atsu, Shelvey, Hayden, Almirón (Muto 67′); Joelinton.

3,235 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Can’t wait for press to tell us Norwich team worth and put up against a City player or 2.

    1. Evasivo
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      In English please 😉

      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        🙂 I do try, believe me

        1. Evasivo
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Lol, I understood: Can’t wait for press to tell us Norwich team.
          But after that I'm lost

          1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            How much each team costs. 🙂

            1. Evasivo
              • 13 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Thank you!!

              *Can’t wait for press to tell us Norwich team value compared with a City player or 2.

              1. Random Name
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                chill out dude wtf

                1. Evasivo
                  • 13 Years
                  4 years, 7 months ago

                  I'm chilled, wtf

      2. Peter Ouch
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Its Harry kane's translation

  2. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Want to get Son in - can’t bring myself to ditch Salah/Sterling/KDB.

    1. Messiah Hazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Rotation of Sterling/KDB may force your hand

      1. Top Lad Dakes.
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        May do. Or a midweek injury.

    2. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      I wouldn't even think of dropping any of those three atm.

    3. Peter Ouch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      I will downgrade robbo and upgrade mount for sonny with my 2ft

      1. Top Lad Dakes.
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        If wildcarding I could do Salah Mount Zinchenko to Mane Son 4.5.

        1. HurriKane
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Mount offering excellent value. Wouldnt ditch especially given chelsea fixtures after next gw

    4. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      And you shouldn't.

    5. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Sterling, in terrible form

    6. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Why not?

      Look at the numbers. Mane is and has been for a while equal value anyway. No reason to think that’ll change. Only a million and not 2-3 million? A million is a lot.

  3. Stockport Hatter
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Someone not dinnertime!!!

  4. Dacra
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    City still heavy bookies favourites, Liverpool at 5-2 seems reasonable and might be worth a few quid.

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      5-2 against Chelsea?

      1. Dacra
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        5-2 odds for the league

        1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Ah

  5. Peter Ouch
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Well done Norwich, no diving, no bus parking with half the team out.
    Well done

    1. Evasivo
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      This!!!

    2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Impressive. Both from how solid Norwich was and how bad everone was in city, except KDB

    3. TiAgoFPL
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Playing from the Back damn
      and the front trio were just amazing

  6. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    What are the chances Guilbert wont feature tomorrow?

    1. Top 210 Club
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Zeri

      1. Top 210 Club
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Zero

        1. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Really? May i ask why you so sure?

  7. Bruno Bruno!!
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Another crap GW down from 106k to 584k

    Would you do the following for a hit:

    Kane + McGinn -> Abrahams + Son (-4)

    GW6 Team:

    Ryan
    VanDijk Coleman Lundstram Otamendi
    Son Salah KDB Sterling Cantwell
    Abrahams

    Button Wesley Kelly Greenwood

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Yes!

    2. Dacra
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      You're only allowed Abraham if you stop adding the s.

      1. Superkitten
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Is 44 points any good? Anyone know the average so far?

        1. Pedersen
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Avg among top performers past years are around 45 point, with 1,5 player to go.

  8. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Really HATE the captain part of this game! Some might disagree but I just think it leans so much more to luck than skill! HATE IT

    1. Peter Ouch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Easy boy

    2. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Would make the game too easy if it wasn't there.

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Depends how competitive your leagues are

    3. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Agree, but without it, the game would be more boring.

    4. Evasivo
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Who did you captain?

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Abraham

        1. Evasivo
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Then why the whining?

          1. RAFA THE GAFFA
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Sick of winning mate

            1. Evasivo
              • 13 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Sick of getting lucky right

              1. RAFA THE GAFFA
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 7 months ago

                Proper. It’s unfair on those that actually put a decent team together

    5. Yome
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Absolutely, having a great rank relies on perfect captains every week.

    6. Firminooooo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      I hate it when I’m wrong, like today. Love it when I’m right.

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Your weird 🙂

  9. LIARS POKER
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Best Montoya replacement up to 5.5? Otamendi still?

  10. Blackice
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Will use the wildcard Next gw, what about this?

    Pope
    TAA Ota digne
    Sterling kdb Mané mount
    Pukki Abraham Haller

    Burton Cantwell lundstram hanley

  11. Tauruspt
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    What moves would you make with this squad after a poor week?

    Two ft’s
    1.0 ITB

    Pope
    Taa vvd digne zini lund
    Salah kdb d silva martial dendon
    Vardy king greenwood

    Tear it apart of need be.....

  12. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Had pencilled in VVD/AWB to Otamendi for this week not sure sure!

    1. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      He should be dropped

  13. Jolly Good
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    6 expensive heavy hitters from mancity and Liverpool in their juiciest fixture give 21 points including captain ... what a week!

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      30 from my 4.

      1. Random Name
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        30 just from mane

    2. Random Name
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Big team premium players win you gameweeks

      Lower team gems win you mini leagues

  14. Kroos Kontrol
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Captain fail again. Big rank drop. worth wc-ing? The issue is I don't see myself moving on from Salah-Sterling-KdB-Pukki; and Salah -> Mane isn't really worth a WC since I can do that anytime.

    Heaton (4.0)
    Robertson Digne Lundstram (Montoya 4.0)
    Salah Sterling KdB Ceballos McGinn
    Pukki Haller (4.5)

    1. Peter Ouch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Don't panic

    2. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Lol I'm in same situation, I think if I'd got a smaller red I would be more calm, plummeting from 150k to 700k atm

  15. Walcoff life
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Griezmann is just a poor man's Cantwell

  16. Uncle Gamst
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    56 all out, could have been so much better... then again so much worse:

    KBD benched, KWP and Montoya no shows, miserly Zinchenko and VvD points, Agüero (c) over Salah 🙁

    Played Pukki...lifesaver, Robertson assist & Mount last minute goal after missing out several 'assists' and didn't have Sterling to captain 🙂

    2 FT and 1 in bank so breathe a sigh and start planning for GW6

    1. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      You can't complain with 56, well above average this week

  17. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    25 points here, benching Pukki was a good laugh 🙂

    Would you wildcard this team of will 2/3 transfers do it?

    Ryan
    Trent VVD Digne Zinchenko Lundstram
    Salah Sterling KDB McGinn Dendoncker
    Pukki Jota Wickham

    2FT 0.4ITB

    Something like Jota, Dendoncker, VVD to Abraham/Barnes, Ceballos and Soyuncu sound good?

    1. Uncle Gamst
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Potentially but I'd hold fire for time being.
      Arsenal still to play and there might be injuries in the midweek matches

  18. Ange Ball
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Let's start this Mendy train.

    What do you all reckon going to ignore Barnes now.

    Kelly to Mendy
    Van D to Trent
    Anderson to Guendouzi

    Minus 4

  19. King Kohli
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    If on a WC, which two of these big hitters would you have, considering form and fixtures?

    A. Kun
    B. Salah
    C. Mane
    D. Sterling
    E. Auba

    1. Bucket Man
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Still B and D for me.

      1. Humlesnurr
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        This

    2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      B, D

    3. Sailboats
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      A and C/B

    4. Weeb Kakashi
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Mane Aguero actually.

      Im going Mane Sterling. As i feel Sterling owes me the point's for captaining him 4 weeks straight

    5. WVA
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      A
      C
      Which I have

  20. Weeb Kakashi
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Bottomed

    WC or not to?

    Pope
    Robbo Otamendi Coleman Montoya Lundstram
    Salah Sterling KDB
    Rashford Haller

    Dendo Cantwell Wickham

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Noo, take a few hits

      1. Weeb Kakashi
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Could you please suggest some?

        Montoya did not start today
        Otamendi should lose his place
        Lundstram has a tough fixture
        Rashford really needs to go

        Need a formation change too

        1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          First of all, think of Cantwell as a 6.5 mid. 2+2 in 5 games.
          Which players do you want? Which players do you wanna get rid of?

    2. kinghenry14
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      no imo

    3. Blunder fc
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      It's a good team, just no luck this week. Stick with it./ hope for a Coleman hat trick

  21. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Pukki! Captain GW2 and a brace vs City. My new religion is Pukki.

    1. Random Name
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      people were genuinely calling him a flop after last gwk lol

      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        And now its Sterling

      2. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Outrageous how quick people are to sell after one blank!

  22. Random Name
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    hang on 'stfu' is not allowed anymore?

    wow ok

    1. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Sad if true

      1. Random Name
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        I've seen it at least once every two pages today

    2. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      stfu

  23. Humlesnurr
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    My Sterling captaincy-fail this GW felt quite OK as i got to see City fall. Anyone else feel the same?

    1. TiAgoFPL
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Yeeees !!

  24. Dacra
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    50 with Digne and Haller left.

    I should be happy I guess, but getting rid of Tammy thismorning still hurts a bit.

    1. Bucket Man
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Ouch. Don’t think many thought he would score 3 today though, one of those weeks.

      1. Dacra
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        To be fair, I'd have probably got rid of Pukki if I'd kept him..

        1. Pukki Party
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Who did you get in?

    2. Markus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Sounds like we've got similar team, Tammy over pukki though so a bit miffed pukki had to haul vs man city, it was going well til then!

  25. Bucket Man
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Any news non Montoya and Cathcart injuries?

    will ditch one for Lundtsrum tonight possibly then look for Jota to Barnes with my other FT

  26. kinghenry14
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    early thoughts but what would you do with this lot? 2FT 0ITB

    pope 4.0
    taa digne boly lundstram kelly
    salah sterling mount cantwell 4.4
    kun pukki barnes

    cheers

    1. Blunder fc
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Bolt out ?

      1. Blunder fc
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Boly

  27. Naby K8a
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Spare a thought for those who rolled out 5ATB at the start of season

    1. Jolly Good
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Start of the season.... and on my WC just played for GW5... still believe in it though ... TAA, Robbo, Digne, Ota, Lundstram to save my season

  28. Netters2018
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Best defender 5.2m and under???

    1. Sailboats
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Burnley def

  29. Party time
      4 years, 7 months ago

      What is the overall average score for this gw?

      1. kinghenry14
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        50.7 i think

        1. Party time
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Thank you...

      2. Paulie Walnuts
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        A Don doesn't wear shorts...