Scout Notes

Mané brace brings Salah value into question once again

Liverpool 3-1 Newcastle United

Goals: Sadio Mané (£11.5m) x 2, Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) x 1 | Jetro Willems (£4.5m)

Assists: Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) x 2, Andrew Robertson (£6.9m)

Bonus Points: Mané x 3 Salah x 2 Firmino x 1

Liverpool secured a 3-1 home victory over Newcastle United to maintain their 100% winning start to the 2019/20 Premier League season.

A clinical performance from Jurgen Klopp’s side continues to fuel the fire of the Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) vs Sadio Mané (£11.5m) debate after goalscoring contributions from the attacking duo. 

The lunch-time kick-off was a game that belonged to the Senegalese international after he opened Liverpool’s account with a fine strike, which cancelled out a special effort from Jetro Willems (£4.5m).

Sadio Mané scored twice for Liverpool in their win over Newcastle

Priced at £11.5m, a whole £1.0m less than his counterpart Salah, Mané’s brace alongside three bonus points means that he has now registered two double-digit hauls in 2019/20 – the same as his team-mate.

Mané did start this match as the centre-forward but actually improved once he had returned to his left-wing berth after a tactical switch from the manager.

Despite Salah also scoring in the victory over Newcastle, Mané’s appeal simply continues to grow given his attractive price and an ability to match the £12.5m man.

For managers looking to save the extra £1.0m whilst maintaining essential attacking coverage from Liverpool, opting for Mané is becoming an increasingly enticing option.

Mané then secured his second of the afternoon after poor keeping from Martin Dubravka (£5.0m), but the forward made no mistake to tuck away an important goal.

Salah did not have a particularly impressive afternoon but still found the net against Newcastle

It was initially looking like it would prove a concerning afternoon for owners of the highly popular Egyptian, with Newcastle suppressing his attacking involvement throughout the game.

However, the most captained player for Gameweek 5 lived up to pre-match expectation with a well-taken goal to put the game out of Newcastle’s reach. 

It was a frustrating afternoon for owners of Liverpool’s full-back duo Andy Robertson (£6.9m) and Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.1m), with yet another failure to keep a clean-sheet compounded by a number of missed attacking opportunities.

That said, Robertson did register his first attacking returns of the season with an assist for Mané’s opener. 

Both Robertson and Alexander-Arnold went very close to scoring on Saturday afternoon

For those managers persisting in their faith of a Liverpool defensive double-up, Saturday’s result against Newcastle is yet another blow to the viability of such a selection.

With just one clean sheet in their first five Premier League fixtures, it is becoming difficult to justify investing in more than one of their defenders.

Klopp initially surprised Fantasy managers with his team selection, starting Divock Origi (£5.4m) up-front and dropping Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) to the bench after the Brazilian finished international duty in America in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

Origi only last 35 minutes against Newcastle

However, Firmino was on the pitch after 35 minutes with Origi forced off with an ankle problem.

The centre-forward made a considerable impact with an exquisite assist for Salah’s opener as well as setting up Mané to register an eight-point score from the bench. 

“We don’t want to leave Bobby Firmino out but from time to time we have to be sensible especially after long trips from wherever they come from.” – Jurgen Klopp

Despite the Belgian going off injured, Klopp did allay any concern in his post-match interviews that Origi could be out long-term. 

“Hopefully with (Origi) it’s not too serious. He twisted his ankle and played on but felt it a bit too much.” – Jurgen Klopp

Newcastle’s own attacking assets staked their claim, after Willems opened the scoring with a fine strike in the seventh minute.

After receiving a through ball from Christian Atsu (£5.4m), the full-back found space in front of Alexander-Arnold, who did not apply much pressure, and drilled an outstanding strike beyond the reach of Adrian (£4.6m).

Willems scored a spectacular goal to open the scoring at Anfield

But once Liverpool had found their momentum, there was no doubt as to which side would be collecting all three points. 

Steve Bruce set up the Tyneside outfit in a compact formation that enabled the likes of Jonjo Shelvey (£5.0m) and Miguel Almiron (£5.9m) to form counter-attacks to feed Joelinton (£5.9m), but the attacking overload that Liverpool are so often able to provide was too much for the Magpies. 

Fabian Schar (£4.5m) did leave the Anfield turf injured, but Bruce confirmed that the club was hoping it was an issue of cramp as opposed to a muscle tear. 

“It’s the calf, we’re not sure if it’s cramp or a tear. The medical department say he does suffer from cramp a little bit. We do hope it’s that.” – Steve Bruce

Whilst an upset similar to the 1-0 away win over Spurs was truly on the cards after Willems’ opener, Liverpool’s quality prevailed and the likes of Salah and Mané put Bruce’s side to the sword to continue their perfect winning start to the season. 

Newcastle’s game-plan was evident from the outset, with Steve Bruce’s setting up in a compact formation that provided abilities to break on the counter-attack, but Liverpool’s mesmeric duo in Mané and Salah proved to simply be too much for North-East side as they cruised to an impressive victory. 

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Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Adrian; Robertson, van Dijk, Matip, Alexander-Arnold; Wijnaldum (Shaqiri 84′), Fabinho, Oxlade-Chamberlain (Milner 75′); Origi (Firmino 36′), Mané, Salah.

Newcastle United XI (5-4-1): Dubravka; Willems, Dummett, Lascelles, Schär (Fernandez 80′), Krafth (Manquillo 67′); Atsu, Shelvey, Hayden, Almirón (Muto 67′); Joelinton.

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  1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Watched inter Udinese earlier

    Remember the name Stefano Sensi - he has been superb - watch out for him in the champions league

    He’s about 4’11” and must only weigh about 7 stone, but is a player by the looks of things

    Kaku in total carthorse mode as usual

    Skriniar, Godin, De Vriji looking imperious

    1. Stokelona
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Maybe needs some of messis growth hormones. If I did that football index could buy some shares.

  2. The Yorkshire Pirlo
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Which Chelsea asset? Own Mount, looking to switch to Abraham on WC.

    A) Abraham
    B) Mount
    C) both

    1. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Depends for me on how CL falls. If neither involved then both could be good.

      Haller could be the competition up top. I’ll be sticking with him awhile anyway.

    2. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      No reason not to go for c. I wouldn't be removing anyone myself.

    3. Fpl Richie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Have Mount and will keep. In my head Abraham isn't all that, but might have to get soon just to ruin him.

    4. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Looking at Hudson- Odoi after his good performance on first game after returning from injury- hopefully only couple of weeks or so away from full return to first team

  3. Albrightondknight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    2FT and exact cash to do this with a hit.

    VVD MCGinn Greenwood
    To
    Lowton Cantwell and Abraham
    Would give this

    Heaton

    Digne Lowton Soyuncu

    Sterling KDB Mane Son

    Haller Abraham Pukki

    McGovern Cantwell Lundstram Kelly

    1. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Should I jump before price rises?
      Bench would now be decent enough to even allow for a injury or 2 I think. So would be relatively safe from needing a second hit if anything bad during CL etc.

      1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Chasing points imo

        1. Albrightondknight
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Any suggestion cause I am stumped otherwise.

          1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Sleep on it a few days

            1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 7 months ago

              Team looks good as is

        2. Albrightondknight
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          And I don't need to chase point I just need to get o e C pick right and I would be flying high 🙂
          Oh well

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Exciting looking front 7.

      Aiming for similar but Vardy for Sterling and Mount over Abraham. It’ll take me 2/3 weeks and I hope to have a defence too. 🙂

      1. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Could be good.
        Sterling don't look like now but he will go mental sooner rather than later.

  4. Murder On Zidanesfloor
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Could actually see Pep go with a 352 with Jesus/Raz and Kun st, cancelo and mendy wingbacks, and 3 in cb to steady that back line and control possession better. Could do very well

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Yep - he needs to do something for sure

      He’ll also have confirmed his own worst fears as he has always had a pathological aversion to starting that pair together - looks like he was probably right

      1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah I think walker or fernandinho can bring composure back. They need a defensive leader

    2. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      In theory yes. In practice they don't have two good cbs, let alone three.

      1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Walker has played well for England in the right side of a back 3

  5. pingissimus
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Now I’ve seen it I’m very definitely looking at Son KdB captain rotation while the boy is hot. After all Sterling Kane looked good - the fixtures must be almost as tasty 🙂

    Just giving Son one more week to warm up. I’m sure McGinn will happily make way.

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Son looked unreal today - like a future 11.0 in the making

      He’s so dangerous now & really appears to be enjoying absolutely terrorising defences

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        He’s an odd one.

        I’ve been very cautious so far as he’s also a 6.5 when he’s in the mood and those moods can last. But he’s coming in for me in 7 - just need to give Kun a blast at Watford first 🙂

    2. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      I'm glad I brought him in for Martial yesterday, but wouldn't captain at Leicester away I think

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        The rotation is home and away (mostly) with KdB

        Watford C
        Southampton S
        Wolves C
        Watford S
        Villa C
        Southampton C
        Su S

        And so on

        1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Nice! This looks juicy and might be the answer to my captaincy woes.

      2. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Oh and well done on that move. Still sitting on Martial here.

        1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Thanks mate really needed something to work lol

  6. Marmalade Forest
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Todd Cantwell needs to work on his goal celebrations

    1. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Well is not like he ain't going to need it 🙂

    2. MikeBravo
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Needs to work on getting rid of that Alice band...

  7. Kay317
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    My current team is:
    Pope (button)
    TAA, Walker, Digne, Mings, Lund
    Salah, Sterling, KDB, Mount, Donkey
    Pukki, Haller, Ayew

    Would you wild card to:

    Pope, button
    TAA, DIgne, Walker, Aurier, Lund
    Salah, KDB, Mount, Cantwell, Donkey
    Pukki, Abraham, Aguero

    Have exact cash now before rises. Could sacrafice walker later on to save cash but ideally want to do straight swap to Mendy if he comes back. So maybe have 0.1 wiggle room. Or could take a -12 hit. Thoughts/alternatives appreciated.

  8. Fpl Richie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    I can actually do Zinchenko and Greenwood to Abraham and 4.0def for - 4 but leaving me with a ridiculous defence including Lund Rico and non playing 4.0.

    Tell me it's a silly plan

    1. migas2k7
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Rico is not starting

      1. Fpl Richie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        If only he was. I'll hold off anyway - too risky

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      You'll get sick of playing Lundstram.

      1. Bobby Digital
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Need to buy something to rotate with him if Kelly is out for a while.

      2. mrtapio
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        He'll get sick of not owning Abraham

  9. migas2k7
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Any 4.0 defender still playing after kelly injury?

    1. Fpl Richie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      On this, I assume he's not guaranteed to return as a starter...

    2. Wiseguy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      I have the same problem and can’t find anyone.

    3. Camino Aleatorio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Rico might play, but Bournemouth seems to prefer anyone but Rico, even midfielders, even as they have various injuries

      1. migas2k7
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Could grant be back next game? Even if he is a 4.0 that will 90% of games not get a clean

  10. Camino Aleatorio
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    If FPL prices followed consistent rules, Martial should be 7.5 or 7.4, lost 2/3 of holders since peak

    1. Dirty Harry
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      FPL Towers probably owned him

  11. Stokelona
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Is the Norwich attack triple up of Cantwell, Buendia and Pukki a goer?

    1. have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      no, 2 is pushing it

  12. pol
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    A- Walker + greenwood > 4.5 def + barnes
    B- walker + greenwood > 4.0 def+ tammy

  13. Viper
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    VvD & Mcginn - > Otamendi & Mount (-4). Keeping Robertson

    Seem reasonable?

    1. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      No

  14. Kun Tozser
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Salah, Greenwood

    Tammy, KDB

  15. sandman58
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Am considering Rashford to Abraham...but cant see anything as to how or why Tammy is flagged
    Can anyone shed some light please?

    1. Viper
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Went off injured. That's all we know right now, could be nothing

      1. sandman58
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Ok thanks
        No confirmation or quotes tho?

  16. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Can’t get over Pukki

    10 PPG over his first 5 games

    That’s some next level bargain action right there

  17. Chaps Before Baps
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Choose One Long-Term, Cheers

    A) Daniel James
    B) Ashley Barnes

    1. Hy liverpool
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      B imo.

      1. Chaps Before Baps
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers

  18. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Tammy Abraham - anyone not got him, but happy with their team without him?

    What’s it looking like?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Stop stressing.

      1. Top Lad Dakes.
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        I know, I’m sorry.

    2. Blanka
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      I'm going to have to sacrifice Barnes, but home to Norwich next if I want to catch his rise/s.

    3. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      He looks whack. Find it bizarre that he's scored quite a few.

    4. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Grabbed tonight.....

    5. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Template alert.
      Pope (Button)
      TAA Digne Otamendi Soyuncu (Lund)
      Sterling Salah Kdb (Cantwell, Donkey)
      Barnes Pukki Haller

      1. Rocky FPL
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Have to lose Barnes to get Tammy. But Barnes' fixtures looks very good.

        1. Top Lad Dakes.
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Same deal most likely. Tempted to hold Barnes another week instead.

          I’ve got Mount, too.

    6. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Hold

    7. Fpl Richie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Pretty much - you can't have them all. Would prefer Son anyway!

  19. Tabbara
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Thoughts on
    De bruyne and Soyuncu for Robertson and Martial (-4)

    1. Wiseguy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Had to read this twice before saying.. Nooooo

  20. hammersp2000
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Is it stupid to bring in abraham for barnes tonight, especially considering the next game and a potential injury?

    Got 2FT & Can do mount to ceballos and Barnes to tammy, but not if there is a price change

    Dont really want to lose mount so alternatively could down grade zinchenko t ok get the 0.6 I need

    1. Blanka
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Same boat here!!!

    2. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      I’d hold off. I’m reluctant to sell Barnes despite not owning Tammy, as I just got Barnes this week. I too have Mount, who was unlucky not to come away with even more points today if you watch highlights.

      Yeah probably hold off for now, but I’d say Zinchenko to 4.5 would be the way to afford it if you still want to in gw7 (that’s what I may do too)

  21. FPL Blow-In
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Manage to make the wrong decision every week so far. Literally nothing going my way this season, has been the worst start I can remember.

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Happens to the best of us.

  22. Bob_the_builder
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Sterling to Son considering that I already have Kun, KDB and Salah?

    1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Very interesting

      1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Could pay off

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      I would

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        But not this week

  23. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Pope (Button)

    VVD - Zinchenko - Soyunucu - Lundstram - Kelly

    Salah - Sterling - KDB - Ceballos - Donkey

    Vardy - Pukki - Joelinton

    a) Salah and Joelinton > Mane and Abraham

    b) Wildcard

  24. Qaiss
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Way to beat Man City is to attack, if you sit back then you'll inevitably get unlocked. Their defence has never been that solid, just teams too terrified to attack them so their defence has always seemed very solid.

    1. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Also they usually have the ball for 75% of the time

  25. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    I’ve wasted my Triple Captain on Sterling and now feeling really frustrated.....

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      1 GW at a time.

    2. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      TC hardly ever works.
      I captained an in-form Sane in a DGW and he returned 3 points.
      Dont think too much of it.

    3. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      It's always hit or miss mate

    4. Wiseguy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      I feel bad because I gave him the armband... I feel for you

  26. g40steve
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Tammy on MOTD now 🙂

    1. WVA
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Looks great

    2. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Header and the third goal were pure class.

    3. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Yes happy to bin Kane after watching that.
      7 goals in two games & 55 mins will take that against 11m Kane getting scraps.

  27. The Mighty Whites
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    1FT, 1.8 ITB - thoughts?

    Pope, Button

    VVD, AWB, Digne, Montoya, Diop

    Salah, Sterling, KDB, James, Dendoncker

    Pukki, Barnes, Greenwood

    A - AWB & Greenwood to Lundstram & Abraham (-4)
    B - Just AWB to Lundstram & get Abraham next week
    C - Save
    D - Other?

    1. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Probably A but interested to see what others think

  28. WVA
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    IMO best team at the moment? Just missing Digne.

    Pope
    TAA Ming's Ward
    Mane KDB Son Mount
    Aguero Abraham Pukki
    Button Cantwell Lundstram Rico

  29. FCSB
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Pope
    Robertson VVD KWP Digne
    Salah Sterling KDB Mount
    Barnes Pukki

    Button Lundstram Dendoncker Greenwood

    1 FT, 0.2 ITB

    Any moves needed, or should I roll??

    Thanks

    1. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      KWP a concern?

      1. FCSB
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Yep definitely... just not sure who I would change him to atm... nothing too appealing

  30. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Wow I was fuming with myself for going with salah captain.... Can't believe sterling blanked