Scout Notes

Mané brace brings Salah value into question once again

Liverpool 3-1 Newcastle United

Goals: Sadio Mané (£11.5m) x 2, Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) x 1 | Jetro Willems (£4.5m)

Assists: Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) x 2, Andrew Robertson (£6.9m)

Bonus Points: Mané x 3 Salah x 2 Firmino x 1

Liverpool secured a 3-1 home victory over Newcastle United to maintain their 100% winning start to the 2019/20 Premier League season.

A clinical performance from Jurgen Klopp’s side continues to fuel the fire of the Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) vs Sadio Mané (£11.5m) debate after goalscoring contributions from the attacking duo. 

The lunch-time kick-off was a game that belonged to the Senegalese international after he opened Liverpool’s account with a fine strike, which cancelled out a special effort from Jetro Willems (£4.5m).

Sadio Mané scored twice for Liverpool in their win over Newcastle

Priced at £11.5m, a whole £1.0m less than his counterpart Salah, Mané’s brace alongside three bonus points means that he has now registered two double-digit hauls in 2019/20 – the same as his team-mate.

Mané did start this match as the centre-forward but actually improved once he had returned to his left-wing berth after a tactical switch from the manager.

Despite Salah also scoring in the victory over Newcastle, Mané’s appeal simply continues to grow given his attractive price and an ability to match the £12.5m man.

For managers looking to save the extra £1.0m whilst maintaining essential attacking coverage from Liverpool, opting for Mané is becoming an increasingly enticing option.

Mané then secured his second of the afternoon after poor keeping from Martin Dubravka (£5.0m), but the forward made no mistake to tuck away an important goal.

Salah did not have a particularly impressive afternoon but still found the net against Newcastle

It was initially looking like it would prove a concerning afternoon for owners of the highly popular Egyptian, with Newcastle suppressing his attacking involvement throughout the game.

However, the most captained player for Gameweek 5 lived up to pre-match expectation with a well-taken goal to put the game out of Newcastle’s reach. 

It was a frustrating afternoon for owners of Liverpool’s full-back duo Andy Robertson (£6.9m) and Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.1m), with yet another failure to keep a clean-sheet compounded by a number of missed attacking opportunities.

That said, Robertson did register his first attacking returns of the season with an assist for Mané’s opener. 

Both Robertson and Alexander-Arnold went very close to scoring on Saturday afternoon

For those managers persisting in their faith of a Liverpool defensive double-up, Saturday’s result against Newcastle is yet another blow to the viability of such a selection.

With just one clean sheet in their first five Premier League fixtures, it is becoming difficult to justify investing in more than one of their defenders.

Klopp initially surprised Fantasy managers with his team selection, starting Divock Origi (£5.4m) up-front and dropping Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) to the bench after the Brazilian finished international duty in America in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

Origi only last 35 minutes against Newcastle

However, Firmino was on the pitch after 35 minutes with Origi forced off with an ankle problem.

The centre-forward made a considerable impact with an exquisite assist for Salah’s opener as well as setting up Mané to register an eight-point score from the bench. 

“We don’t want to leave Bobby Firmino out but from time to time we have to be sensible especially after long trips from wherever they come from.” – Jurgen Klopp

Despite the Belgian going off injured, Klopp did allay any concern in his post-match interviews that Origi could be out long-term. 

“Hopefully with (Origi) it’s not too serious. He twisted his ankle and played on but felt it a bit too much.” – Jurgen Klopp

Newcastle’s own attacking assets staked their claim, after Willems opened the scoring with a fine strike in the seventh minute.

After receiving a through ball from Christian Atsu (£5.4m), the full-back found space in front of Alexander-Arnold, who did not apply much pressure, and drilled an outstanding strike beyond the reach of Adrian (£4.6m).

Willems scored a spectacular goal to open the scoring at Anfield

But once Liverpool had found their momentum, there was no doubt as to which side would be collecting all three points. 

Steve Bruce set up the Tyneside outfit in a compact formation that enabled the likes of Jonjo Shelvey (£5.0m) and Miguel Almiron (£5.9m) to form counter-attacks to feed Joelinton (£5.9m), but the attacking overload that Liverpool are so often able to provide was too much for the Magpies. 

Fabian Schar (£4.5m) did leave the Anfield turf injured, but Bruce confirmed that the club was hoping it was an issue of cramp as opposed to a muscle tear. 

“It’s the calf, we’re not sure if it’s cramp or a tear. The medical department say he does suffer from cramp a little bit. We do hope it’s that.” – Steve Bruce

Whilst an upset similar to the 1-0 away win over Spurs was truly on the cards after Willems’ opener, Liverpool’s quality prevailed and the likes of Salah and Mané put Bruce’s side to the sword to continue their perfect winning start to the season. 

Newcastle’s game-plan was evident from the outset, with Steve Bruce’s setting up in a compact formation that provided abilities to break on the counter-attack, but Liverpool’s mesmeric duo in Mané and Salah proved to simply be too much for North-East side as they cruised to an impressive victory. 

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Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Adrian; Robertson, van Dijk, Matip, Alexander-Arnold; Wijnaldum (Shaqiri 84′), Fabinho, Oxlade-Chamberlain (Milner 75′); Origi (Firmino 36′), Mané, Salah.

Newcastle United XI (5-4-1): Dubravka; Willems, Dummett, Lascelles, Schär (Fernandez 80′), Krafth (Manquillo 67′); Atsu, Shelvey, Hayden, Almirón (Muto 67′); Joelinton.

3,235 Comments Post a Comment
  1. ViperStripes
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Robertson > Lund already done to free up some cash.

    Going to avoid the Barnes > Abraham bandwagon for a week given the 2 respective fixtures

  2. Stupendous
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Stacked for next week I think although Otamendi is a worry.

    Pope
    Otamendi TAA Digne
    Mount KDB Salah Sterling(c)
    Ayew Pukki Abraham

    Heaton Lundstram Montoya Dendonker

  3. The Mighty Whites
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Best defender max 4.6?

    1. The Mighty Whites
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Already got Diop & Montoya

    2. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      None 🙁

    3. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Soyuncu. Not conceding much shots and fixtures turn soon. Rotates well with Lowton/Pieters

    4. jordan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Mings, soyuncu, tomori

    5. Marmalade Forest
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Lund + 0.4m?

  4. Wiseguy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    It’s interesting to see players getting dropped after blanking for a gw.

    1. noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Welcome to FFScout

    2. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      It's a knee and it's jerking.

    3. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Indeed. Happened all last season with bournemouth players. They were in and out of fashion every 3 weeks. Lots selling Barnes because he failed to score today. Pretty high chance he will stil be one of the best value fwds of the season.

    4. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Pukki last week was absolutely hilarious.

  5. Babelcopter
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    2ft and current team is:
    Pope
    Robertson VVD Digne Zinchenko
    Salah KDB Sterling Ceballos
    Barnes Pukki

    Heaton lund Cantwell Greenwood

    VVD, Zin & Greenwood -> Pieters, Söyuncu and Tammy -4?

    1. masonwt
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Seems like a bad move to me

  6. FPL_Crisis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Championship form well and truly stacking up with Pukki and Tammy leading the way

    1. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Harry Wilson to follow

  7. DAZZ
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Montoya injury was kept quiet. Owners keeping? Some tough games coming

    1. Phil's Stamps
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Nah, swapping for Lowton or Soy.

  8. King Henrik
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Sorry Repost.

    Wildcard it is. Thoughts on this lot guys ?

    Pope
    Trent Zinchenko Digne
    Salah Sterling Son Cantwell
    Pukki Barnes Tammy

    Button Lundstram Kelly Fodder

    1. WVA
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Zinchenko?
      KDB essential on a WC
      Mane over Salah
      Aguero over Sterling

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Too much fodder.

  9. WorldCup82
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Pope Heaton
    TAA, Digne, Dunk, Lundstram, Kelly
    Salah, Sterling, KDB, Mount, Cantwell
    Barnes, Pukki, Ings

    What do you think of:
    Digne and Barnes
    To
    (Zinchenko, Otamendi, or Stones) and Abraham???

    1. Bartowski
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      No get rid of Ings, Heaton & Dunk before anyone else

  10. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Amazing 60 min cameo for Firmino

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Class player

  11. EL tridente
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Greenwood and Salah to Abraham and Mane for -4?

    1. Wiseguy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      That does bring better balance to your team. Greenwood might as well be deadwood if you are talking points...

    2. Belalugozi78
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      it is not possible 17 mln vs. 18,7 mln.

  12. FPL_Crisis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Team has balance but lacking wow factor. What changes do you recommend?
    Prefer to keep WC until next IB
    Pope Heaton
    Virgil Digne Ota Dunk Gibson
    Salah kdb Lanzini mount mcginn
    Kane Pukki king
    Cheers!

    1. Buck The Trent
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      King and/or Mcginn

    2. Crystal Alice
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Lanzini and Kane to Son and Haller. More wow

      1. FPL_Crisis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Interesting moves, not bad at all

      2. FPL_Crisis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Still want to move King though

      3. FPL_Crisis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Lanzini King Kane to Son Barnes Haller
        This would be for -8 and in theory cover 2 weeks transfers so I can have 2FT in gw8....

  13. Burger_and_Chips
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Lanzini and Greenwood to Tammy and Cantwell? -4

    Already have Pukki and Mount though?

    1. Buck The Trent
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Yes.. good for TV

  14. You've got red on you.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Thinking of doing:

    Barnes ----> Aguero
    Salah ---> Mane
    Van Dijk ---> Soyuncu
    Greenwood ---> Abraham
    De Bruyne -----> Cantwell

    Worth the WC?

    1. Buck The Trent
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Sure

    2. danlynch13
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Getting rid of KDB? seems stupid

    3. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Losing KDB?!

    4. Wiseguy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Chasing points there. KDB to Cantwell. I know that helps you elsewhere but if sounds regrettable..

      1. You've got red on you.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        It's really KDB ---> Aguero

  15. EL tridente
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Good moves?
    Salah and Greenwood to Mane and Abraham

  16. Aubamazette
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Keep Son & Lund/Pieters alternating
    Or
    Abraham and D.Silva

  17. Buck The Trent
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    I have been taking -4 every week and will keep it that way early in the season to build TV. Best way to get Abraham ?

    Pope
    Taa Digne Ota (Lund Rico)
    Salah Sterlo KdB Mount (Dendo)
    Haller Pukki Greenwood

    A) Haller to Abraham
    B) Ota, Greenwood to Abraham, 4.5 (-4)

    1. Wiseguy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Does TV help you more than points over course if the season? But B

      1. Buck The Trent
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Yes .. edge over my ML rivals

  18. bruuuno
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Need some advise here

    Pope Heaton
    Montoya Rico Digne VVD Lundstram
    Salah KdB Son Trossard Mount
    Greenwood Pukki Kane

    About to do Trossard VVD Greenwood > Abraham Cantwell Aurier (-4)

    Do you see better options? (Price changes of Trossard and Abraham tonight)

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Still games tomorrow, Monday and Champions and Europa League to come. I know there's price changes but wait until Friday

  19. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    I see some folk who brought Haller in this week are selling for Tammy before Haller even played...,...,,,

    1. Rinseboy
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      it's the price rises. They feel like a nightmare this year just driving all these early moves and then it snowballs even more. nightmare. Really wanna wait on Tammy and gonna lose 0.1 tonight already!

      1. Zladan
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Tammy is flagged and plays LFC next. I’m avoiding for now.

    2. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Abraham is projected to score 60+ goals this season, would be stupid not to get him in immediately.

      1. elchilangles
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        he'll bag 200 goals by xmas easy

    3. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      This is a whole other level of kneejerk. Saw some posting McGinn out too. Man hasn't played and has great fixtures coming up.

  20. Rinseboy
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    that assist from Firmino was pure filth

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      I did it all the time when I were a lad. Then the alarm clock rang!

  21. semiconductor
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    I need upto 5.1m 3rd defender. Who would you get?

    1. Aurier
    2. MNiles
    3. Kolasinic
    4. Burnley defender
    5. Other. Who?

    1. Jayv807
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Boly or Lowton

  22. KLOPPTOMANIA
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    2 FTs, 0.1 in bank

    A. Vardy To Abraham, Martial to Mount
    B. Martial to Mount
    C. Stick

    Heaton/Pope
    Digne TAA Zinchenko
    Salah Martial Sterling Ceballos
    Pukki Barnes Vardy
    (Lundstram Dendoncker Kelly)

    1. Jayv807
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Just Vardy to Abraham

  23. Bartowski
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    The guy at the top of the FFS league left 29pts of Norwich genius...on the bench

    1. KLOPPTOMANIA
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      He’s got Norfolk’ing clue

    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Not even Norwich thought Norwich would win today.

  24. Zladan
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Salah + Haller to Son + Auba?

    1. Bartowski
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Seriously?

      1. Zladan
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Feel I need to bring in Spurs and Arsenal assets for their good run of fixtures.

        LFC now face some tough fixtures.

        City have nice fixtures so I’m more reluctant to lose KDB + Sterling.

        It basically means Salah is the only option to free up funds. Ale also has United next and I’d probably look to Abraham after he plays LFC.

        1. Zladan
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          *Haller also has United...

          1. GreennRed
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            2019 United though.

        2. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          Salah can score against anyone and will get more points than Sterling. Norwich can beat City, finally being caught out by their porous defence. Haller has massive potential.

    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      No.

    3. Wiseguy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Listen to the song by Dawn Penn. “You don’t love me”

  25. Jayv807
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Kun/Lanzini to Abraham/Mane with 2FT?

    Would give me

    Pope, Button
    Digne, AWB, Dunk, Soy, Lund
    Sterling, KDB, Mane, Mount, Cantwell
    Firmino, Abraham, Pukki

  26. Doctor Evil
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    I had
    Son 2 goals
    Mane 2 goals
    Abraham 3 goals
    Pukki 1 goal 1 assist

    And I captained Sterling for the second week in a row. This forum doesn’t manage to mess up my team with the so called template but I do get swayed by the Captain choice. My own fault, no more.

  27. Chaps Before Baps
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Team A or Team B?
    --------------------------

    Team A
    (+1.0 ITB)

    TAA, Digne, Otamendi (Lundstram) (Kelly)
    Salah, Sterling, DeBruyne, Mount, James
    Pukki, Abraham (Wickham)

    Team B
    (+0 ITB)

    TAA, Digne, Otamendi, (Lundstram), (Kelly)
    Salah, Sterling, DeBruyne, Mount, (Cantwell)
    Pukki, Barnes, Abraham

  28. Fantasyamateur
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    In need of some late night advice here.. WC-button tempting, but not sure its the right move.

    Heaton
    TAA - Dijk - Digne - Zinchenko
    Salah - KdB - Sterling - James
    Wesley - Pukki

    Bench: Dendoncker, Rico, Wickham, Button.

    0.3M ITB and 1FT.

    Could do Dendoncker to Cantwell and play him instead of Wesley.

    Or WC and get a better strikeforce with Barnes, Pukki and Abraham and letting go of double Liverpool-defence, as well as getting a different goalie and Mount instead of James. Is it worth to WC though..?

    1. Bruno Bruno!!
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Downgrade VVD and upgrade Pukki.

      VVD + Wesley -> Aurier + Abraham (-4)

      1. Fantasyamateur
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Thats another thought that crossed my mind, but is it worth it for the next GW? Not really fancying Abraham against van Dijk..

  29. Bruno Bruno!!
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    Taken a bit of a risk and made my transfers early to catch price rises:

    Kane + Wesley -> Abraham + Pukki (- 4)

    GW6 Team:

    Ryan
    Coleman Otamendi VanDijk
    Salah McGinn Sterling KDB Cantwell
    Abraham Pukki

    Button Lundstram Greenwood Kelly

    3.0m itb

    GTG?

  30. Salah’s Sonnet
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 7 months ago

    I am so down about this poor start, worst beginning to an FPL season ever, i’m actually thinking of throwing in the towel, no matter what player i bring in or captain, it goes wrong, and to make matters worse, benched Pukki last night.

    Rant, sorry guys.

    1. Jayv807
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      33 weeks to turn it around.

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Haha true, rivals probs out of sight by then though

        1. Jayv807
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 7 months ago

          I chased down a 107 point deficit after GW35 to win a ML by 50 points two years ago. Just hang in there.
          .

          1. Salah’s Sonnet
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 7 months ago

            Wow! That’s incredible, i’ll not waver too much thanks pal, hope it improves, it has to lol

    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Many weeks to go. Keep the faith.

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers bud

    3. Wiseguy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Marathon not a sprint.... And this stuff is meant to be fun lol

    4. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 7 months ago

      Benched Pukinho?! 🙄