Scout Notes

Another blank for Pukki as Villa expose Norwich’s leaky defence

Norwich City 1-5 Aston Villa

Goals: Josip Drmic (£5.4m) | Wesley (£6.0m) x2, Jack Grealish (£5.9m), Conor Hourihane (£5.7m), Douglas Luiz (£4.5m)
Assists: None | Anwar El Ghazi (£5.5m) x2, Hourihane, Matt Targett (£4.4m) Wesley
Bonus Points: Wesley x3, Michael McGovern (£4.0m) x2, Hourihane x1

Norwich City’s thrill-a-minute return to the Premier League continued on Saturday with a 5-1 battering at home by fellow promoted side Aston Villa.

The commitment of Daniel Farke’s team to attacking football is refreshing, exhilarating and, increasingly, self-defeating. Since Gameweek 5’s famous 3-2 win over Manchester City, the Canaries have lost three straight games by an aggregate score of 1-9.

Their well-documented injury woes – just the nine regulars unavailable against Villa – goes some way to explaining all of that, but an inability to defend on even the most basic level is starting to look like a terminal issue.

It was certainly exploited by the visitors, with striker Wesley (£6.0m) enjoying by far his best display since his summer move to the Midlands. He opened the scoring when he controlled Anwar El Ghazi‘s (£5.5m) cross and turned and fired past Norwich keeper Michael McGovern (£4.0m), before he doubled the lead with a tap-in from Conor Hourihane‘s (£5.7m) low ball from the left.

That made it four goals in eight starts for the Brazilian – not exactly a bad return for a forward who some Villa fans were criticising after last week’s 2-2 draw with Burnley.

He added an assist for the fifth goal when Douglas Luiz (£4.5m) curled home from distance to bring in 14 points, including maximum bonus, for his 2.0% Fantasy Premier League (FPL) ownership.

The only downer on his day came when he had a first-half penalty, and the rebound, saved by McGovern – a blip which cost that ownership a further six points.

Despite all that, there is no indication of an FPL rush to bring in Wesley just yet, probably because a) it was only Norwich, b) the international break is upon us and c) Villa’s upcoming schedule is far from appealing.

Dean Smith’s side host Brighton in Gameweek 9 before embarking on a punishing six-match run involving two trips to Manchester, one to Chelsea and a home fixture against Liverpool.

However uninspired Manchester United, or generous at the back Chelsea, might be, no side will be anywhere near as accommodating as Norwich at present.

The Canaries allowed their visitors 22 shots, of which 12 were on target; Villa’s midfield ran riot as a result.

Jack Grealish (£5.9m) made it 3-0 when he combined sweetly with El Ghazi, and the tireless Hourihane then capped a fine individual performance with his first goal of the season, set up by the equally industrious Matt Targett (£4.4m).

But while Wesley stole all the headlines, it was El Ghazi who was arguably the star of the show.

The Holland international now has two goals and three assists from his last five games and he was joint-top for chances created at Carrow Road. With just 0.8% ownership, he could be a major differential, particularly when Villa’s schedule eases dramatically from Gameweek 17 onwards.

One player proving way more popular than El Ghazi is the 11.7%-owned John McGinn (£5.8m), who came into the match with back-to-back goals and 214,000+ new owners to his name.

His blank was a bitter blow, as was the late consolation goal handed to Norwich when Tyrone Mings‘ (£4.6m) ill-judged back pass to Tom Heaton (£4.5m) allowed substitute Josip Drmic (£5.4m) to charge down the keeper’s attempted clearance and roll the ball into the empty net. That denied Villa a third clean sheet of the season – and a first away from home – but manager Smith was happy to dwell on events further up the pitch:

They were really good goals, our tactical discipline was really good today. Our performances have been there. That result today is probably what we’ve deserved in the last few weeks. – Dean Smith

And he was keen to praise Wesley:

He’s a young player, he’s only 22, he’s been in Belgium for a year or two and then Slovakia before that. So it’s a new culture, a new team a new group of players, and a big price tag. But he handles it well and I saw a big response from him this week. – Dean Smith.

Wesley’s Norwich counterpart, the 43.5%-owned Teemu Pukki (£7.2m), could only dream of receiving such praise.

After three double-digit returns from his first five matches, the Finn has now blanked for three straight Gameweeks.

Norwich attacked throughout on Saturday – the top four players for penalty area touches all came from the home side, with Pukki among them.

But the Finland international managed just two shots, neither of which were on target, and has had just seven attempts across his current barren spell.

It is no surprise, therefore, that he is currently Gameweek 9’s most-sold player, even with a trip to a Bournemouth side without a clean sheet to come next.

The Canaries’ other popular asset, the 25.7%-owned Todd Cantwell (£4.9m), survived an injury scare to start against Villa, but he also blanked for a third Gameweek running.

He did at least out-shoot Pukki and he was also joint-top with Emiliano Buendia (£6.0m) for chances created among the home players. And the third-most-owned Norwich player in FPL? That would be goalkeeper McGovern (5.6%).

The 380,000+ Fantasy geniuses who have the Canaries’ third-choice stopper in their squads would have walked away with nine points yesterday courtesy of his penalty heroics, six other saves and two bonus points.

But that was if – and it’s a big if – he wasn’t languishing on their benches in all his £4.0m glory.

Glory was certainly far from Farke’s mind post-match:

We have to accept this loss. We made too many mistakes. We created maybe more than they did in the first half, but the mistakes and the goals we were conceded were not good enough. We had so many on the pitch playing with pain killers and they have not been able to train properly this week. So really we are not prepared as we need to be. Then in addition, one or two crucial players do not have their best day. – Daniel Farke

In truth, only McGovern had his best day against Villa, and even he looked nervy before his spot-kick save.

As for the rest of the players, the international break looks to have come at just the right time, allowing them to escape overseas, take a break or recover from injury – whatever is needed to reverse a slide that is looking unstoppable at the moment.

How many Fantasy managers keep faith in the likes of Pukki and Cantwell before November’s final break of the year is unclear. Their fixtures are okay – Bournemouth and Brighton away, Man United and Watford at Carrow Road – but their form is anything but.

Members Analysis

Norwich (4-2-3-1): McGovern; Aarons, Amadou, Godfrey, Lewis; Leitner, McLean; Buendia, Stiepermann (Roberts 76′), Cantwell (Srbeny 80′); Pukki (Drmic 84′).

Aston Villa (4-3-3): Heaton; Guilbert, Engels (Konsa 75′), Mings, Targett; McGinn, Nakamba, Hourihane (Douglas Luiz 78′); El Ghazi (Trezeguet 64′), Wesley, Grealish.

Lessons learned from Gameweek 8

3,153 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Jet5605
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Well done to fellow KDB holders. Looks like a good move after Son, Mahrez & Sterling blanked.

    1. abaalan
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Should have gone Pepe 😀

      1. Doctor Evil
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        I got Pepe in lol

  2. OverTinker
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Seriously don't know what to do with my Wildcard. Perhaps I should wait for a week after IB

    1. OverTinker
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      this is the team
      Heaton
      Ota Digne Lowton Lund
      Salah Sterling(C) Mount
      Tammy Pukki Wilson

      (Button) -KDB -Soyuncu - Dendocker

    2. abaalan
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Think you are good to hold for at least one more. 1ft i assume? If so could be a Pukki or Digne transfer for me

  3. Bruce Lee
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone have a great GW?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      What score is needed for great?

      1. Bruce Lee
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        11+

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 6 months ago

          Only Mane.

    2. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      49 but I'm happy. Need KDB and Salah to play after the IB.

    3. Sgt. Schultz
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Regular week was definitely better than my GW.

    4. Do I Not Like Orange
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Quite happy with my 56 after BPS. 4th consecutive captain fail is annoying though, no more armband for Raz.

  4. Nightcrawler
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Depressing defeat. Feel sick

    We deserve better

    1. Bruce Lee
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Bournemouth fan?

    2. Stoic
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah. Albrighton was more like Aldullton

  5. The Man Pastore
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Should I do this now to avoid price changes: Salah Barnes Pukki --> Maddison Auba Wilson (-4pts) ?

    Thanks

    1. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Popular move. Go for it.

  6. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    LMS safety score is 30

    https://www.livefpl.net/LMS

    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Oh no... I’m gone! Dammit

    2. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Okay, Mahrez 11 seconds too early out, Mane to Sterling for a hit, C Auba hitting the post and only 2bps for Tammy means 29 pts and one worry less 😉

    3. jimmyabs1987
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      I’m on 29 but have 2x Tammy bonus coming?

      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        Then you're good

    4. Bragazeti
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      That had me worried for a moment

    5. Brimble82
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      36. Smashed it!

  7. Cruz88
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Best move?

    A) Pukki and Robertson to C Wilson and Pereira (-4, own Trent and Soyuncu)
    B) Pukki to King, keep Robertson
    C) Keep Pukki for Bou game

    1. Do I Not Like Orange
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      I like A or B. Wouldn't want a Pool defensive double, but not sure I'd be keen on swapping it for a Leicester one either. Least you can bench Soy though.

      1. Cruz88
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks, thing is I'm happy to have double pool, I bought in Robertson a couple of weeks ago in advance of their favourable fixture run coming up after the next couple, plus they are the current second best defence in the league judging by stats. Even with Adrian! The issue is whether I want Wilson or not, and if i do someone has to make way. Is a tough one!

      2. Cruz88
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        Also leicester are the third best defense in the league currently, stats wise, so a double up on either isn't bad I reckon

  8. Bruno Bruno!!
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Time to WC?

    Ryan
    VanDijk Otamendi TAA
    Salah Cantwell Mount Sterling KDB
    Abraham Pukki

    Button Kelly Lundstram Greenwood

    2FT 0.4m ITB

    1. abaalan
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Wouldnt with 2 FT. Could take a -4 to sort out most things anyway.

    2. DontPiqueTooSoon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      No. Take a -4 and you can move some players around (Pukki, Salah and VVD or Ota) to create value and give the team a fresh face.

  9. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Pep when asked about otamendi and fernandinho

    " They played really well"

    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Hahaha

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Lol

    3. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Good managers will never criticise players in public

      1. Sgt. Schultz
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        I wish Ole did. To get some reverse reaction seeing as mollycoddling isn't doing it.

        1. The Ejiptian King
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 6 months ago

          We had a manager that tried the opposite approach.

    4. KGFC
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      What choice does he have :p

  10. Cok3y5murf
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Newcastle have reverted back to a 5-at-the-back bus after playing 4 at the back vs Leicester and seeing red. Chelsea probably won't blow them away.

    1. Ze_Austin
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Or Man U was just that bad?

      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        That goes without saying 😉 But this needed to be said.

  11. BremerHB
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Aurier, Salah & Pukki > Rico, Mane & Vardy for -4?

  12. Maddi Son
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Do you think Doherty will continue to have his minutes managed?

    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Til they’re out of Europe yes

      1. Maddi Son
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        Want to take a punt on him but this is my worry.

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 6 months ago

          Periera at same £
          Clear winner

    2. Bob B
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      He's competing with Adama for RWB spot, I'm sure the fullbacks will be rotated a lot

  13. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    None of my decisions seem to go right this season.

    Could’ve done Barnes to Tammy (FT) and have Lundstram in for KDB.

    Instead went punty and did KDB Barnes to Yarmolenko Auba (-4). So nestle paid off, but instead am 14pts down!!! (If my math is right)

    Anyone feeling similarly miffed?

    1. BremerHB
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      I wouldn't look at it just as one gameweek tbh, especially considering Auba fixtures coming up. It could well pay off over time. Even more so should KDB be out for longer than expected.

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      \o/

    3. My heart goes Salalalalah
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Yarmo and Auba will come good

      1. Top Lad Dakes.
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        Hopefully.

        Out of LMS because of it though 🙁

  14. Foozeball
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    How nailed on is Hudson-Odoi? That's 2 starts in a row and an assist 3 games in a row. Considering picking him up instead of Yarmolenko/F.Anderson

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Fairly nailed.

      Lampard rates him highly and he got straight back into the team on return from injury.

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Waiting till he plays full 90 1/2 times.
      Have Tammy and Mount. Won't be a bad triple up IMO

      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        Very unlikely to play 90 at any time. Just like Tammy, they have too many options to expect any of the attacking player to play 90.

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 6 months ago

          Kind of agree with that mate.
          But yeah, holding the trigger for a gw or two.

    3. F4L
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      probably pretty nailed. Don't think Frank really rates Pulisic (left out of squad vs Lille), and Pedro/Willian are never starters every game.

      I think it more depends on whether Chelsea play 4-2-3-1 more often, so CHO isn't competing for a spot with Mount as well, like in a 5-2-3/3-4-3 and 4-3-3.

    4. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      The Hazard spot is his, he’s great!

  15. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    terrible week, but at least everton, city and utd lost....pool fan silver linings

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Choke Choke 😉

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      I know Everton is a local rivalry but do Liverpool fans really actually care how they do anymore? I thought they seem inconsequential to Liverpool fans

    3. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Instead it should be: great week, Everton, city and united lost... poor week for fpl but never mind

      Club > fpl. Always.

      1. The Ejiptian King
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        It's the best when both are awful.

      2. Nightcrawler
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        Who made u the judge for what shd be priority? Depends on each person and whatever they think is more important to them

  16. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Regret selling Mane for Son 2 weeks ago.

    Think I will reverse the move for GW10 when Spurs visit Pool.

    1. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      And miss Mane’s best fixture of the season?

      1. Karan14
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah unfortunately got other problems to deal with and can't sell an attacker before Watford at home.

  17. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    All these hits on the 1st Sunday of an international break 😮

    Currently on a green arrow for GW9 already 😎

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      I took one 😀
      Bored of being too wise. Getting nothing out of it.
      Will see how it goes

    2. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Lack of .2 made ne ditch Mane over Son. TV does count.

  18. thunder_mike
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Original plan was
    Salah, Pukki, Haller >

    A) Maddison, Aubu, Vardy (-4)

    But those Bournemouth fixtures has me thinking of one of these
    B) Maddison, Aubu, Wilson
    C) Maddison, Wilson, King

  19. tissae
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Whould you pull the trigger?

    Salah + Pukki + Cantwell + Otamendi --> Mane + Vardy + Maddison + 4.7m def

  20. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    This look ok to set and forget for 2 weeks break (-4 with Greenwood Pukki and Salah to Vardy C Wilson and Maddison). Keep WC to get Liverpool back.

    Pope
    TAA Otamendi Van Dijk
    Sterling KDB Maddison Mount
    Vardy Abraham C Wilson

    McGovern Rico Cantwell Diop

  21. Squib
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Aguero and Pukki to Auba and C Wilson?

    1. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Getting rid of Aguero with the next 3 he has coming could be very painful.. Auba and Wilson very good picks, but you can’t have them all.

      Pukki will also start banging them in soon again imo, people are just being impatient with a player who started at 6.5 for some reason

      1. DontPiqueTooSoon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        I wouldn't ditch Aguero just yet. I would shift Pukki as he'll drop in value and Norwich aren't looking good at all.

  22. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    TM you still in LMS?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      yep

  23. Captain Warlock
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Who would you rather have A) Salah/Mané
    B) Aubameyang
    Think A) could still score well with those red fixtures

    1. Goat
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      A

    2. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Tbh they’re not red fixtures really haha, all of those sides have crap defences at the moment..

      1. Captain Warlock
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        That’s what I’m thinking considering Mané over Salah too

    3. DontPiqueTooSoon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      A

  24. Goat
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    I need to find £2m somewhere. What’s the best move?

    A) Son -> Maddison
    B) Robertson -> Soyuncu

    1. Captain Warlock
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      A)

    2. Sgt. Schultz
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      A

    3. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      A to CHO?

      1. Goat
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        Already have 3 chelsea. Now jumping on 2 Leicester

    4. DontPiqueTooSoon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      A

  25. Rash
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    What would you do with this lot?

    Pope button
    Trent otamendi lundy soy montoya
    Salah sterling kdb mount cantwell
    Barnes pukki tammy

    2ft 5itb WC available

  26. Drexl Spivey
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    I've actually missed Big Sam this last year.

    Be nice to see him back.

  27. Maddi Son
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Somebody tell me a story about how they went from 2m OR to the top 10k. 😐

    Had an unbelievably bad start and somehow gets worse each week. Patience in previous seasons has served me well but time for a big change up.

  28. DAVESAVES
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    A. Pukki > Vardy (today)

    B. Cantwell > Maddison

  29. thomashl
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    McGinn -> Mount or no?

    Have Tammy and 1.2 itb

  30. dshv
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Pope
    Robbo, lundstram, kelly, soyboy, rico
    Sterling, mane, mount, maddison,dend
    Abraham, auba, wilson

    The question is

    KDB conolly/ ayew over Auba dendo

    Also to have salah over mane ?
    And is it worth to get TAA over robbo

    Really need opinion.