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Why opportunity trumps ability for goal-scoring FPL forwards

Recently I read the book ‘American Sniper’ (bear with me here) which, if you’re not familiar with it, is the autobiography of Chris Kyle, a former US Navy SEAL sniper who totalled a record 150 confirmed kills during his two tours in Iraq.

Reading it, I was surprised to learn that, despite being such a prolific sniper, Kyle was, in fact, considered a fairly mediocre marksman and the reason that he claimed so many kills was actually less to do with his skill and more to do with the number of shooting opportunities he had as a result of being so frequently located in dangerous environments.

Obviously my mind is usually (at least) half on Fantasy Football so, while I was reading this, I started to wonder if a similar principle might be true for top Premier League strikers; whether accuracy is the most important thing when it comes to scoring goals, or is goalscoring more a product of the volume of opportunities that a player has to score.

It occurred to me that the answer to this question might be significant not only for predicting which players will score the most but also for judging form sustainability and true player value.

To try and figure this out I took the average number of goal attempts (a measure of scoring opportunity) and the average shot accuracy of the Premier League’s five top-scoring forwards and compared these to the same statistics for the 10 top-scoring forwards over the last four full seasons.

Does opportunity trump ability in FPL?

The idea was that, if there was a notable difference between the two groups, it could help identify which attribute was most important.

What I found was that accuracy between the top five group and the top 10 one was identical. Both groups on average, were on target with 43.5% of their shots.

However, comparing the volume of attempts, the average for the Top five was 21% higher than the Top 10 group.

So what does this all mean for FPL? Well, it suggests that the number of opportunities a striker has to score is, on average, a more important factor than accuracy in distinguishing the very best strikers.

Admittedly, the idea that more chances equals more goals seems fairly obvious. That said, what I do think is interesting is how this evidence illustrates the conditional nature of skill with respect to goalscoring.

If opportunity effectively trumps ability, we need to put greater emphasis on the context in which the striker is operating as this may significantly influence their returns.

Kane’s goal-scoring form has dropped off ever since he started occupying a deeper role and shooting less often

For example, when we think of Harry Kane (£10.8m), we may think of a striker capable of scoring 30 league goals, as he did in the 2017/18 season, and we might believe that it’s only a matter of time until he does it again, such is his reputation.

But when you look at Kane’s goal attempt statistics (adjusted for minutes played) last season and this current season so far, you can see that they have declined significantly since 2017/18, as has his goal output. Yes, he’s scoring goals, but arguably not at a rate to justify his current cost.

Kane’s shot accuracy has not changed dramatically season over season and there is little to suggest he has become an inherently less skillful player.

Instead, the implication is that negative changes have occurred to the context in which he operates. Spurs and Kane no longer play in a way that is as conducive to maximising his scoring returns, yet he is valued and generally perceived as a premium striker.

Of course, this decline occurred under Mauricio Pochettino and the introduction of Jose Mourinho as manager may well have a positive influence on Kane’s returns though, it’s worth highlighting, that another notable victim of the effects of diminishing opportunities over recent seasons was Romelu Lukaku, who experienced this downturn at Manchester United under Mourinho.

The significance of opportunity volume for goal scoring may, potentially, also be used to predict the sustainability of current goalscoring form and, maybe, even when goals might come.

Often, doing well in FPL relies not being overly influenced by the past or present and successfully predicting what will happen next. Goals scored to date can be misleading as to a striker’s prospects if they are not accompanied by a sustainable supply of opportunities.

Despite all his attacking returns, Wilson has not shot very often this season

Bournemouth’s Callum Wilson (£7.7m), who scored five goals in his opening seven Gameweeks is an example of unsustainable scoring overperformance compared to scoring opportunities.

So far he has registered just 17 attempts on goal in 13 matches so it’s not all that surprising, therefore, that he has not scored since Gameweek 7, yet his early scoring record would have painted a picture of a player who would be expected to continue to score consistently.

Again, context is important. Changes in team strategy, personnel, motivation, confidence, stage of the season and, of course, opposition can all help to create an environment that either stymies or invigorates the number of opportunities that a striker will receive and, it follows, their scoring prospects.

Looking out for potential variations in key factors affecting scoring opportunities can help FPL managers make positive, forward-thinking decisions.

There are some necessary caveats to be made, of course. I’ve looked at a relatively small sample size and, although the trend is apparent and fairly consistent over the time period, it’s probably too limited to be considered conclusive.

Furthermore, while there does appear to be a stronger correlation between goal scoring opportunities and goals scored than between accuracy and goals scored, this will inevitably be one of many factors at play here and, thus, may only be indicative of the apparent trend.

Historically, Vardy has been an exception to this rule although he has started shooting more often in recent weeks

Naturally, for every rule, there are also exceptions, the most notable example in recent seasons being Jamie Vardy (£9.7m). The Leicester man has somehow managed to consistently score lots of goals despite having had a fraction of the opportunities that other top scorers receive, although rather ominously, his volume of shots is actually on the up in recent weeks.

In the opposite direction, you have the likes of Fulham’s Aleksandar Mitrovic who had more attempts than anybody last season (131) and shot accuracy akin to Sergio Aguero’s (36.4) and yet managed only 11 goals, joint 14th for strikers.

Applying all this to my own forwards, I’m reasonably happy with Tammy Abraham (£8.0m) and Danny Ings (£6.0m) who both offer a high rate of attempts per their minutes played (40 and 29 respectively) with good fixtures to come.

How I’m lining up for Gameweek 14

Vardy on the other hand has only managed 31 chances, despite playing by far the most minutes of the three. For reasons given, this doesn’t come as much of a surprise and, to some extent, I’m inclined to ignore it.

What is concerning however, is that his shot accuracy does look unsustainably high, even by his standards (64.5%), which would suggest that at least some regression is imminent.

However, with his coming fixtures, I’m unlikely to be ditching Vardy any time soon, though Wolves’ Raul Jiménez (£7.5m) appears to offer the ideal balance of attempts (41) and fixtures and so offers a strong alternative should I need one.

Finally, it must be said that the easiest way to test this theory and apply it to your own Fantasy team is to use the Fantasy Football Scout Members Area. The tables and comparison tools available there can help you conduct research on the aforementioned statistics with ease each and every Gameweek.

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  1. Ronny Sandstone
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Is having Kane and Moura overkill? having a shocker of a season btw.

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A little yes, damn Kane is expensive for his output, and Moura...i'd rather have Ali or Son

      1. Ronny Sandstone
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Hmm that a nice comparison actually, I know my rival has gone for Kane & Ali so thought trying to limit the damage by matching Kane and having a punt with Moura, just seems ott not in a good way, hmm?

        Cheers for the reply

        1. Salah’s Sonnet
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          No probs man, in my opinion then Son would the one to go for absolutely if he hasn't got him, plus that change you save can go a long way. Kane just isn't and hasn't been explosive for a long while now. Son is the one, then a toss of the coin between Alli + Moura

    2. rjcv177
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Lucas + son... now that smells goals 😉 or assists to kane

    3. Penang Sandman
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I have Son, and hopefully Kane stays quiet this GW because i want him too.

  2. Salah’s Sonnet
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Guys, shall be priced out tonight if i don't do these moves tonight, any reason not to?

    Salah + Mount + Connolly > Son + Pulisic +Ings

    Would have to play a 451 otherwise. Team right now is:

    Pope
    Soy - TAA - Lundstram - Tomori
    Mount - Salah - KDB - Mane - Tielemans
    Vardy
    __________________________________
    Button: Rico: Abraham: Connolly

    I know i should keep Salah, but so annoying the way his form has gone, Mount rotation, Connolly not the best fixtures.

    Cheers guys

    1. waldo666
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I'd be inclined to sit tight personally. Tipping you can't just do Connolly to Ings?

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Feels very uncomfortable not making a move, bit i get ya.
        Nah unfortunately only 0.1 ITB

        1. waldo666
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          I like that Salah is becoming somewhat of a differential but in saying that if he blanks as my captain this week I may change my tune pretty quickly!

          1. Salah’s Sonnet
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            I know, ad that's the thing, nobody, absolutely nobody in my big ML has a Mane Salah double up. That's obviously where i've gon ewrong keeping Salah maybe this long, but now it's a differential like you say.
            Meh, i've waited this long, may as well wait until tomorrow for pressers with the whole Tammy situation. Can always do KDB to Son which i like as well.

    2. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      No from me

    3. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      just do it

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Two oppsite answers there haha! A no, and 'just do it!' hehe, reckon it's just a given with those moves, won't lie i do like em.

    4. De Gea is GOAT
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Depending on your OR and mini league i would go for it mate. Great moves imo.

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Definitely chasing, and at just over 1m rank. Have moved up a million in 2 GW's. However, these moves are for -8, still worth it?

        Nobody has Salah, so nobody would be getting a leg up on me there, but also nobody has Son or Pulisic YET 🙂

        1. De Gea is GOAT
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          oh i'm not so sure about a -8 mate. I mean the moves could definitely make up for it but you already have a solid team as it is. Can easily see all of your current players BUT salah getting decent points this GW. He's just looked so off his game lately but hey its Salah.

      2. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Alternatively, i could keep Salah and do KDB + Mount + Tammy > Son + Pulisic + Ings. Then i could easily bring Tammy back in with downgrading Salah if he still isn't performing, and still find a great mid replacement?

        1. Nabs Kebabs
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          like this

          1. Salah’s Sonnet
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            cheers Nabs mate! A fan of that route then and keep salah?
            This route would be for a -8 mind you, but i'd say it's worth that?

            1. Nabs Kebabs
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              yeah I'd take this hit, only thing is if Tammy is fit for West Ham probs not worth it.

              1. Salah’s Sonnet
                • 12 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                Cheers bud. Yeah, that'd throw a spanner in the works, probably that's why it's best to hear from lapms tomorrow, both routes allow options. Just with possible rises tonight may stop the connolly to Ings move, but best to wait, thansk again matey.

                1. Nabs Kebabs
                  • 12 Years
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  no worries mate, also waiting for more Tammy news

    5. Tsparkes10
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Do it. I'm thinking of a Tammy, Mount, Tierney, CHO to Son, Pulisic, Williams, Mousset (-8) tomorrow if Tammy is out. Will pay back for sureee for me. Salah a slight worry and Mount could start but pulisic and son are sick

      1. Kiwivillan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Is Mousset fit?

        1. Tsparkes10
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Should be. Was at the shop opening midweek and no talk of him not walking fine. Wilder loves him and will start him this game week I'm sure, may be benched against Newcastle with Mcburnie up top to start but for 5.0 he's a steal

      2. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers mate, which route though did you mean? The salah out route or the KDB out route to allow me to keep salah?
        Either way, i reckon these moves can pay off over such a small area and speed of games.
        Exactly, really can't seemyself not entering this GW without Son or Pulisic tbh.
        Also good moves on your behalf there as well, CHO Tierney + Mount need moving on imo at least, nice upgrades.

        Me going the KDB toute allows me to see how Salah performs, then if not, a simple downgrade then hello again mr Abraham? 🙂

        1. Tsparkes10
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          KDB has too much value tied for me and he's a season keeper if fit. I prefer the Salah but that's because I got rid in my WC in gw9 for Mane and haven't looked back. Could however bang this weekend so it's a 50/50, but had I stressed about that on my WC with sterling and Salah then I'm sure I wouldn't have had as many green arrows.

          Hope that helps :/

          1. Salah’s Sonnet
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Certainly helps mate thanks. Unfortunately i don't have much value tied up in KDB due to my own stupidity selling then buying back at 10.0m haha!
            Every bit of me wants to give Salah the chance to show something, so may do the KDB route, or just move him on to Son at the very least.

  3. The Yorkshire Pirlo
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Which combo?

    A) Pulisic, Ings
    B) Mount, Jimenez

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A

    2. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      B

    3. PascalCygan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      This week A but B long term

    4. rjcv177
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A...ride joe's fixture block
      Assess gw18

  4. Dr Dream
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Well I keep seeing all these posts about Abraham replacements..but only one of them tops the goal attempts + chances created charts...and bang in form..

    1. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Sounds positive on Tammy front, no??

      “TAMMY ABRAHAM has sent fans a positive update on his injury after revealing ‘It’s much better’ after hip agony vs Valencia.

      Chelsea’s 11-goal top scorer was in tears after crushing his hip in an aerial challenge and limped out of the Mestalla helped by a club official.

      Abraham, 22, said: “It's much better than when it happened.

      “At the time I was fearful of the worst but I got in. I was able to walk again and hopefully it is not too long.

      “It was a knee to my hip area and I hope it’s only bruising.

      “I’ll have a scan, maybe an X-ray and see what the news is. Hopefully, it’s nothing too serious.”

      1. waldo666
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Doesn't mean much pre-scan I'm afraid.

      2. rjcv177
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        If needs a scan and xray...not playing this gw right?

        1. waldo666
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah I would say even if the scan comes back clear and it's just bruising that he would still miss this GW at least.

      3. Nabs Kebabs
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Will there be a press conference from Lampard before the GW? Or does the post Europa League one also act as the preview for EPL

    2. soup natsi
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Is it... Mousset?

      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Nope.

        1. SAY MY NAME
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Ings?

    3. bigbudgie
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Rashford?

      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Nope.

    4. Tsparkes10
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Jimenez or Wood?

    5. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Got to be jimmy

  5. Athletic Nasherbo
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Bench order correct?

    Ryan
    TAA Soyuncu Lundstram
    Mane KdB Moura Mount
    Kane(C) Vardy Abraham

    Button Hayden Willems Dunk

    1. PascalCygan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I think so, gl!

    2. Party time
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Abraham*

      • rjcv177
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Great C...hope it pays off for you

      • Party time
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Yes but not an appealing bench. Feels like Hayden wiuld pick up a Yc

          1. Athletic Nasherbo
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Might put Willems there. Newcastle surprisingly good against the big teams this year.
            Spurs, United cleansheet and only 1 against Chelsea. Willems also scored against Liverpool.

            1. Party time
                4 years, 4 months ago

                Yeah, I don't think they would keep a clean sheet tho but he has more attacking returns than Hayden & could probably still keep a cs

        • PascalCygan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Sterling + Abraham > Pulisic and Kane?

          Something else?

          2FT 0.1ITB
          Pope
          TAA / Soyuncu / Tomori / Lundstram
          Sterling / KdB / Mane / Martial
          Vardy / Abraham

          McGovern Dendoncker Rico Connolly

          Thanks!

          1. Athletic Nasherbo
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Wait on Tammy- if out for a few games yes

            1. PascalCygan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Cheers. Looks like Kane is rising tonight but probably prudent to wait - still achievable with a rise

          2. ZimZalabim
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            if Tammy is out for the next week - 10 days then yes

            if not then maybe rico to kelly to cover as first sub for tammy for this week

            1. PascalCygan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Thanks, hadn’t considered that

          3. Party time
              4 years, 4 months ago

              I prefer Abraham to Ings/ Jimmy. Sterling to Salah/Son

              1. PascalCygan
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                Thanks. Could even do Sterling to Son and Connolly to Ings?

                1. Party time
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    Yes also a great option. You could even use1 ft & leave the other. Like Conolly > Ings although Sterling has been very poor, just feel Newcastle played sht the other night

              2. Django Unchained
                • 4 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                Son and jesus

            • ZimZalabim
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Hi guys need some opinions on what u guys think is the best option ?

              Pope
              Taa, Lund, Soy
              Kdb, Mane, Maddison, Martial, Son
              Tammy, Vardy

              Rico, dunk, connolly

              2fts 0itb

              A. Dunk to Kelly
              B. Martial and Dunk to Pulisic and Kelly
              C Tammy and Martial to Ings and Pulisic
              D. Tammy, KDB and Dunk to Kane, Pulisic and Williams for -4

              Tammy to start in the first two options with kelly as first sub

              1. rjcv177
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                D...go big or go home 😉

                (Help below please:

                1. ZimZalabim
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  cheers if tammy is def out for 2-3 games might just go big

              2. Party time
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  C but Just Tammy(If injured) to Ings. Martial could easily haul against Villa

                  1. PascalCygan
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 6 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    This

                  2. ZimZalabim
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    cheers
                    thats what im concerned about tbh with this move but the thing is with tammy likely out Ill have no chelsea players vs West ham
                    do u think Pulisic outscores Martial ?

                    1. Party time
                        4 years, 4 months ago

                        50/50.Either could easily outscore the other. Martial more nailed. I would give Martial 1 more week atleast. Pulisic likely to get rotated this festive period although a good pick

                        1. ZimZalabim
                          • 7 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          cheers
                          ya it is a bit of a coin toss I was just thinking that I need Cheslea cover for west ham and dont really want to lose any of the others, this is all moot tho of tammy is actually going to be fine to start. Cheers tho will wait for chelsea presser and then decide what to do.

                        2. rjcv177
                          • 8 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          Martial owner here...and worried. After this gw no clear choice to sell martial 🙁

                          1. Party time
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              The Villa game should give a clearer picture. He is fully rested. I am going to sell if United do not attack properly against Villa

                  3. Pukki Party
                    • 6 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    5 hours, 12 mins ago
                    Goodibinin

                    Pope
                    TAA Robbo Digne Lundstram
                    Salah Sterling Mount Martial
                    Tammy Jimmy

                    Button Rico Greenwood Saka

                    A) Tammy, Saka to Ings, Moura
                    B) Tammy, Digne to Vardy, Baldock
                    C) Digne, Saka to Soyuncu, JWP

                    Cheers

                    1. ZimZalabim
                      • 7 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      B

                      1. Pukki Party
                        • 6 Years
                        4 years, 4 months ago

                        Cheers

                    2. Party time
                        4 years, 4 months ago

                        B

                    3. rjcv177
                      • 8 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      Decided KdB out...to:

                      A)Salah (c) double with mane
                      B) Son (or lucas for my Spurs att)
                      C) Pulisic to double with Tammy when fit

                      Thkx in adv

                      1. Pukki Party
                        • 6 Years
                        4 years, 4 months ago

                        A

                        1. rjcv177
                          • 8 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          Should i trust guy still holding on to pukki party??

                          1. rjcv177
                            • 8 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            Sorry...rest deleted.
                            My gut says A

                          2. Pukki Party
                            • 6 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            I never owned him

                            1. rjcv177
                              • 8 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              I did...when he hauled bs city (because i didnt want to take more hits and had to play him on xi)

                      2. ZimZalabim
                        • 7 Years
                        4 years, 4 months ago

                        B or C

                      3. The Knights Template
                        • 10 Years
                        4 years, 4 months ago

                        A

                    4. Ozzy smith
                      • 9 Years
                      4 years, 4 months ago

                      Who starts 1st on my bench? (Tammy owner)

                      A) Tomori (WHU)
                      B) McGinn (mun)

                      1. ZimZalabim
                        • 7 Years
                        4 years, 4 months ago

                        Tomori if u cant fit him in ur first 11

                        whats ur team actually ? I would like to start both tbh

                        1. Ozzy smith
                          • 9 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          1ft 1.6itb
                          Pope
                          TAA Lunds Soyuncu
                          Mane(v) KDB Martial Mount Tammy Jimenez Vardy(c) (Button Tomori McGinn Rico)

                          1. ZimZalabim
                            • 7 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            nice team
                            Ya I would leave it as it is then
                            Tomori to come on for Tammy looks good

                            Saving ft also looks sensible

                      2. Party time
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          B

                      3. SuperMane Returns
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 7 Years
                        4 years, 4 months ago

                        Is Abraham dropping tonight?

                        1. Annie
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          Doesn’t look like it

                        2. ZimZalabim
                          • 7 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          at -80 so its possible but not very likely
                          But wouldnt be shocked if he did fall

                        3. rjcv177
                          • 8 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          Depends if they want to protect his price, ala martialgate lol

                          1. Annie
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 11 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            Was nowhere near the required transfers, what are you on about

                      4. camarozz
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 9 Years
                        4 years, 4 months ago

                        Almost every wk I have 10 - 15 pts sitting on my bench, last wk 24 as matter of fact.

                        Now when I need a bench player for Tammy (done my 2fts already) I have

                        Mings v Utd
                        Rico v spurs
                        Cantwell (flagged) v Arsenal

                        Ya couldnt write it.

                        1. rjcv177
                          • 8 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          Cantwell is going for the candies 😉

                      5. Nickofoz
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 9 Years
                        4 years, 4 months ago

                        Thoughts on Danny Ings as an option on a WC? Has some very nice fixtures in the next six, cheap price of 6.0m and in a nice spell of form.

                        1. Salah’s Sonnet
                          • 12 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          What's not to like? Good option for the immediate term.

                        2. Pukki Party
                          • 6 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          Great option

                        3. LSK
                          • 6 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          Decent option and allows for a big midfield

                        4. De Gea is GOAT
                          • 7 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          Brought him in this week. I've got hopes

                          1. Party time
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              Me too... Did the same & I expect him to do well

                            • norab
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 14 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              You just have to be careful with Ings as he is injury prone. Can't have that this time of year.

                          2. Pat Bonner
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 12 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            Looks great, if he can stay fit

                        5. andres
                          • 12 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          So I think I am going to bin tammy.. what would you recommend?

                          Pope
                          TAA Soy Lund
                          Mane KDB son tielemans
                          Abraham* Vardy jimenez

                          Pieters, Cantwell, Kelly 1.6 ITB 1FT

                          1. LSK
                            • 6 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            I take it you're just short of Jesus/Laca/Firmino? Maybe Rashford or Ings?

                            1. andres
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              yes, up to 9.3... not interested in Laca nor Firmino...

                              Jesus an option, like below

                          2. andres
                            • 12 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            or let me put it this way

                            A. sterling +ings (1.4 ITB)
                            B pulisic +jesus (2.4)
                            C pulisic + kane (1.1)

                            1. LSK
                              • 6 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              I like C the most. Don't trust Jesus.

                              1. LSK
                                • 6 Years
                                4 years, 4 months ago

                                (either of them)

                        6. LSK
                          • 6 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          Any advice here? 2m itb and 1 free transfer

                          Pope
                          VVD, Lundstram, Soyuncu
                          KDB, Salah (c), Martial, Mount
                          Jimenez, Vardy, Abraham

                          Button, AWB, Cantwell, Dunk

                          Thinking AWB and Abraham to Kelly and Kane -4 or just AWB to TAA for free.

                          1. Pukki Party
                            • 6 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            AWB to Trent

                          2. andres
                            • 12 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            I would do awb to robbo, if abraham confirmed out then you could get jesus instead, wait for news tomorrow

                            1. LSK
                              • 6 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              Cheers both. Might avoid the hit and finally bring in a Liverpool full back for their good fixture run.

                        7. SAY MY NAME
                          • 6 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          play one?

                          a)Lundstram
                          b)Tomori

                          1. Pukki Party
                            • 6 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            A

                            1. SAY MY NAME
                              • 6 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              cheers, tempted by Tomori at home but they struggle to defend, and i don't wanna miss another Lundy haul!

                        8. rodragon
                          • 5 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          Captain pick
                          Son, vardy, mane Or pulisic?
                          Thanks!

                          1. The Knights Template
                            • 10 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            Vardy

                        9. Nabs Kebabs
                          • 12 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          Pope
                          TAA Soyuncu Lundstram
                          Mane Son Martial Maddison
                          Vardy Abraham Jiminez

                          Henderson Tomori Rico Hayden

                          0FT, 3.7m ITB.

                          Trigger finger hovering over Abraham to Kane for a hit, thoughts?

                          1. LSK
                            • 6 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            In the same position. Very tempting.

                          2. Warby84
                            • 8 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            Just done a -8 whoops

                            1. Salah’s Sonnet
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              may be doing the same tonight or tomorrow hehe

                          3. The Knights Template
                            • 10 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            Yep

                          4. Stupendous
                            • 11 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            Step away from the keyboard.

                            Shocking. Gang mentality here is deplorable and the fact tammy will drop before we even know his fitness shows how ridiculous and volatile the FPL market is.

                            Kane is vastly overpriced for his consistency this season and certainly until we see more from them under Mourinho.

                            I am so very much hoping Tammy (I own, and I own Son and he is all I want from spurs at the moment), utterly punishes sellers with 20 point haul this weekend if he plays.

                            If he's out 3 weeks then different story.

                            Still even then wouldn't touch Kane

                            1. Stupendous
                              • 11 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              You dont need Kane with son.

                              Hold at the very least til the morn!

                              1. Nabs Kebabs
                                • 12 Years
                                4 years, 4 months ago

                                Prefer Kane as a captain option to Son, more nailed and penalties.

                            2. Nabs Kebabs
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              In the past I would agree about the volatility, you can ignore it or choose to adapt. This season I'm adapting and riding the price changes. TV=106.4m

                              Kane's consistency is irrelelvant this season. Proven world class striker and 3 goals in 2 games for Mourinho.

                              Chelsea are a concern heading into the festive period with such a young squad and still in the CL.

                              1. Nabs Kebabs
                                • 12 Years
                                4 years, 4 months ago

                                What I mean by Kane's consistency is irrelavant this season is that Tottenhan already look a completely different team under Jose

                                1. Stupendous
                                  • 11 Years
                                  4 years, 4 months ago

                                  So did the Rags under Ole

                              2. Stupendous
                                • 11 Years
                                4 years, 4 months ago

                                106.4 wow

                                OR?

                                1. Nabs Kebabs
                                  • 12 Years
                                  4 years, 4 months ago

                                  157k...team is linked mate

                                2. Stupendous
                                  • 11 Years
                                  4 years, 4 months ago

                                  185k. Hits. I'm hardly flying but 85k

                                  1. Stupendous
                                    • 11 Years
                                    4 years, 4 months ago

                                    Sorry 157

                            3. Soto Ayam
                              • 4 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              Think he'll destroy west ham myself and if we get confirmation that he's okay, he'll be my captain pick for sure this week

                              1. Stupendous
                                • 11 Years
                                4 years, 4 months ago

                                This

                          5. waldo666
                            • 13 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            Gross.

                            1. Nabs Kebabs
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              Ain't it funny that this sort of comment make me want to make the move more

                              1. waldo666
                                • 13 Years
                                4 years, 4 months ago

                                I understand the want, nothing funny about it though.

                                1. Nabs Kebabs
                                  • 12 Years
                                  4 years, 4 months ago

                                  whats funny is your OR and TV

                                  1. Stupendous
                                    • 11 Years
                                    4 years, 4 months ago

                                    Now sadly THAT IS gross.

                                    Let's be nice children. He made a fair point.

                                    1. Nabs Kebabs
                                      • 12 Years
                                      4 years, 4 months ago

                                      he made a fair point of calling my idea gross without any reasoning? Ok mate

                                      1. waldo666
                                        • 13 Years
                                        4 years, 4 months ago

                                        You asked for thoughts, I gave you mine. Do you need some tissues? Wasn't that long ago your OR was at the same mark, things can change quickly, aye? I could care less about TV.

                                        1. Nabs Kebabs
                                          • 12 Years
                                          4 years, 4 months ago

                                          think you need a tissue mate seem a bit triggered 😆

                                          1. waldo666
                                            • 13 Years
                                            4 years, 4 months ago

                                            Well now, I'm not the one that has resorted to childish comments about OR and TV. But if it makes you fee like a big man all power to you. Quite simply the idea of Kane in for a hit is gross to me and I stated as you requested.

                                            Have an A1 day! 🙂

                                            1. Nabs Kebabs
                                              • 12 Years
                                              4 years, 4 months ago

                                              You too 🙂

                                        2. Nabs Kebabs
                                          • 12 Years
                                          4 years, 4 months ago

                                          Things change quickly for me because of the proactive approach I've adopted this season. Things aren't changing for you anytime soon unlessd you change your approach. That's genuine advice, make of it what you want.

                                          1. Pat Bonner
                                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                            • 12 Years
                                            4 years, 4 months ago

                                            Hopefully this approach works for you. Def needed to change it tho looking at your rank history

                                            1. Nabs Kebabs
                                              • 12 Years
                                              4 years, 4 months ago

                                              it's working pretty well in comparison to your current season

                                            2. Pat Bonner
                                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                              • 12 Years
                                              4 years, 4 months ago

                                              How can you play this game even semi seriously and finish 500k. Pretty impressive

                                  2. waldo666
                                    • 13 Years
                                    4 years, 4 months ago

                                    Oh dear!

                          6. Penang Sandman
                            • 11 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            I'm in the same thoughts.

                            There's very slim chance that Kane do a blank so its sensible.
                            But we'll need another 2fts/hit to get Abraham back when he's fit and firing

                            I guess for me i will just keep Abraham and slot in Kane later for the 3rd slot

                            1. Nabs Kebabs
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              Don't think it will be that hard to bring Tammy back.

                            2. Salah’s Sonnet
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              not hard at all to bring tammy back, plus we don't know how long he's out for yet.

                        10. Quackadoodz
                          • 4 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          Hi all, G2G? I have 0.5 itb for any changes needed. C, VC and bench order g2g?

                          Ryan
                          Robbo, Trent, Lund
                          Mane (VC), KDB, Maddi, Son (C)
                          Vardy, Jimi, Tammy

                          Button | Kelly, Rico, Dendonk

                          1. The Knights Template
                            • 10 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            Prefer vardy cap but looks good

                        11. some witty pun
                          • 11 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          A) Sterling > Mane
                          B) Mount > Pulisic

                          1. Django Unchained
                            • 4 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            B

                        12. Django Unchained
                          • 4 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          Sterling and tammy for son and jesus -4?

                        13. Soto Ayam
                          • 4 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          Help needed please

                          Who do you think should join Rico and Hayden on the bench?

                          Taa, Rob, soy, Lund
                          Mane, kdb, tiele, puli
                          Var, tam, Jim

                          Thanks

                          1. Wild Rover
                            • 13 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            Lundstram, although Tammy may solve the issue for you

                            1. Wild Rover
                              • 13 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              Actually maybe Soy

                            2. Soto Ayam
                              • 4 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              Cheers. That's pretty much what I'm thinking also

                              1. Soto Ayam
                                • 4 Years
                                4 years, 4 months ago

                                Well Lund over soy for bench

                                1. Wild Rover
                                  • 13 Years
                                  4 years, 4 months ago

                                  It's a tough call as Lund more likely to get attacking returns and Soy more likely cs. I'd play Soy

                                  1. Soto Ayam
                                    • 4 Years
                                    4 years, 4 months ago

                                    Thanks

                        14. Nabs Kebabs
                          • 12 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          Will Lampard have another press conference before the weekend?

                          1. Wakanda
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 6 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            is tammy definitely out this week ?

                            1. Nabs Kebabs
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              who knows

                          2. Nabs Kebabs
                            • 12 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            I'll answer my own question then. Yes, he has a press conference today.

                        15. Tsparkes10
                          • 5 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          Bed time for me. 2FTs and a 10am-7:30pm work shift tomorrow so going to be a fun panicky night when I'm done. Trigger finger is ready :)...

                          Hendo
                          TAA Perreira Lund Tierney
                          KDB Mount Mane Martial
                          Vardy Abraham
                          (Gaz, CHO, Rico, Connolly)

                          Not looking good 🙂 night

                          1. Wild Rover
                            • 13 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            I can't even begin to tell you the horrible image that Trigger finger conjures up

                            1. Tsparkes10
                              • 5 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              Jay from inbetweeners? Ffs hahaha

                              1. Wild Rover
                                • 13 Years
                                4 years, 4 months ago

                                I was thinking closer to home

                                1. Tsparkes10
                                  • 5 Years
                                  4 years, 4 months ago

                                  I presumed hahaha, just used him as a more tolerable, PG reference 🙂

                        16. OptimusBlack
                          • 10 Years
                          4 years, 4 months ago

                          KDB + Abraham > Salah + Ings
                          Yaaaaay
                          Naaaay
                          For free

                          1. Django Unchained
                            • 4 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            Son and wood

                          2. Party time
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              I like it. Salah + Ings should easily outscore the former

                            • OptimusBlack
                              • 10 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              🙁

                            • Salah’s Sonnet
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              I'd say yes, but wait on tammy news frst.

                          3. waldo666
                            • 13 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            So after two games with Mou in charge everyone seems to be clambering all over themselves to get Spurs assets in, will same be said for if there are signs of life with Arsenal once Emery gets his foot up the backside?

                            1. Nabs Kebabs
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              yeah, why not?

                            2. Pat Bonner
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              Probably. You know how it works on here! I’m tempted by spurs tho, fixtures look decent but will likely give it a couple of gws to see how they look

                              1. Nabs Kebabs
                                • 12 Years
                                4 years, 4 months ago

                                how it works on here? You mean how it works in football. It's pretty common for a new manager to come in and completely change a teams form.

                                1. Pat Bonner
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 12 Years
                                  4 years, 4 months ago

                                  Thanks for explaining how football works

                                  1. Nabs Kebabs
                                    • 12 Years
                                    4 years, 4 months ago

                                    your welcome

                                    1. Stupendous
                                      • 11 Years
                                      4 years, 4 months ago

                                      You're

                              2. Stupendous
                                • 11 Years
                                4 years, 4 months ago

                                He is just trying to convince himself Kane is worth bringing in, for a hit (I think?), and selling Tammy in the process.

                                Son is all I'm touching from them now, later and maybe until next year.

                          4. Sz21
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 12 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            Pope.
                            Robbo, Soyuncu, Lundstram.
                            Pulisic, Mane, KDB, Salah, Cantwell.
                            Abraham, Vardy.
                            Button, Janmaat, A. Smith, Wickham.
                            1ft. 0.0m ITB. Still have WC.

                            1. Save FT. Possibly move to double Liv defence next GW.
                            2. KDB -> Son (Got KDB @ 9.5m though).
                            3. Salah -> Son this GW.
                            4. Abraham -> Jimenez if there are doubts this weekend.

                          5. steven8991
                            • 8 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            Would you take a hit to do Tammy > Rashford or play Cantwell against arsenal?

                            1. Wild Rover
                              • 13 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              I'd paly Tammy with Cantwell first sub

                              1. Wild Rover
                                • 13 Years
                                4 years, 4 months ago

                                *play

                          6. SolidSnape
                            • 7 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            VAJ front line and DAMM SON midfield (De bruyne, Anthony Marital, Mane, SON). Having more fun spelling than gaining points so far this season.

                            1. Salah’s Sonnet
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              why damm Son? what's he done? 🙂

                              1. GOTHAM City F.C.
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 7 Years
                                4 years, 4 months ago

                                Referring to first letters of his mid-field

                                1. Salah’s Sonnet
                                  • 12 Years
                                  4 years, 4 months ago

                                  Ahhhh, i see. Think that's my cue for sleep haha!

                          7. the dom 1
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 9 Years
                            4 years, 4 months ago

                            Think I might keep Auba for another GW as ARS have a few good fixtures.

                            Was going to do Auba > Kane.

                            What’s your thoughts ???

                            1. SAY MY NAME
                              • 6 Years
                              4 years, 4 months ago

                              As a lifelong Gooner i'd say sell, we look terrible atm, no fluidity, none of the players look like they know what they're supposed to be doing, no confidence, and decision making in attack is poor - as a '1 week punt' you could play him against Norwich 🙂