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Why Man City assets underwhelmed in 2-1 win over Bournemouth

Man City 2-1 Bournemouth

  • Goals: David Silva (£7.3m), Gabriel Jesus (£9.8m) | David Brooks (£6.1m)
  • Assists: Silva | Callum Wilson (£7.4m)
  • Bonus Points: D Silva x3, Jesus x2, Brooks x1

Manchester City assets largely let the Fantasy Premier League community down on Wednesday evening as they limped to a 2-1 win over Bournemouth.

There had been plenty of interest in their attacking options for a meeting with one of the division’s worst defences since the restart, but Pep Guardiola’s rotation policy had the last laugh.

Raheem Sterling (£11.8m) and Kevin De Bruyne (£10.8m) were at the heart of that, coming into Gameweek 36+ on 20% and 11.5% respective backing for the captaincy among the top 10,000 Fantasy managers, and both inside the five highest for effective ownership at that level too.

However, with Saturday’s FA Cup semi-final against Arsenal on the horizon, which, to be fair to him, Guardiola has been talking up as a game he will factor into Premier League selections, there was a glut of key men named on the bench against Bournemouth.

“(The FA Cup semi-final is factored into the selection) a little bit but some of the players are going to play on Saturday. Every game since lockdown I rotate five or six players.” – Pep Guardiola


Sterling backers will perhaps be the most frustrated as he came on to play on the right-hand side of the front-three at half-time, shifted to a centre-forward role in the 77th minute but barely had a sniff all afternoon and scored just one point. That was his first appearance at the Etihad Stadium since the restart to feature a blank.

However, there was a potential silver lining for De Bruyne owners as he remained on the bench, kept fresh for the FA Cup encounter, allowing anyone who captained or selected him to get points for their vice and/or first substitute. That is sure to cause some interesting roughs and smooths in Gameweek 36+. Make sure you let us know about them ahead of the next Scoutcast.

To be honest, De Bruyne’s absence from the pitch on Wednesday evening was one of many reasons why Manchester City were ultimately outplayed on the own turf for the first time in a long while.

Across the 90 minutes, Bournemouth bested their illustrious hosts for shots, shots in the box and big chances, thanks to some predictably shoddy defending from a centre-back pairing of John Stones (£5.3m) and Nicolas Otamendi (£4.8m). In fact, the Cherries even broke the Premier League record for most goal attempts registered at the Etihad Stadium, and fewest conceded there, during Guardiola’s time in the Premier League. 

“It was a really difficult game, they played really well. We could not control it. Their high pressing was good. It was a difficult game.” – Pep Guardiola

It was these carefully timed forays into home territory that really stunted the attacking potential of Manchester City’s midfield and front-three, which featured Phil Foden (£5.5m) once more, making his fourth successive start at the Etihad Stadium.

But, unfortunately for the Englishman’s 6.4% ownership, he was a largely peripheral figure with David Silva (£7.3m) and Gabriel Jesus (£9.8m) the only two Manchester City options to offer much for their backers.

The two players nearly combined for an opening goal in the third minute when Jesus was played through on the right by an excellent Ederson (£6.0m) throw forward. The Brazilian dispatched a great ball across the box that fell just beyond Silva.

The Spaniard reminded Fantasy managers of what he could deliver in the Gameweek 38+ meeting with Norwich in the fifth minute when he curled a clinical free-kick under Aaron Ramsdale‘s (£4.4m) crossbar. While he may have to compete with De Bruyne for such responsibilities against the Canaries, it will, of course, be his last Premier League game at the Etihad on that occasion, which may allow Silva to pull rank.

The fact that Manchester City’s diminutive number 21 has now scored in every home match since the Premier League restart is, on its own, arguably good enough justification to include Silva in a Gameweek 38+ squad.

Less involved around the penalty box than he would have liked, thanks to Bournemouth’s plucky determination of field-position, Silva was about his business again in the 38th minute. He slid Jesus into the box, who stepped to the right of Steve Cook (£5.0m) and coolly buried his effort into the bottom right-hand corner of the net.

Sterling’s introduction for Bernardo Silva (£7.6m) at half-time was a cause for renewed hope after a subdued first period… but it was not to be.

Between then and full-time, there were no more than three moments when Manchester City might have added to their lead, but none of them involved Sterling in any real sense.

In the 71st minute, Silva played Jesus in, who was brought down by Cook and won a penalty. However, the video assist referee revealed that the Brazilian’s trailing leg had landed on the Bournemouth defender, overturning the decision and robbing Fantasy managers of a chance to see who would take the spot-kick in De Bruyne’s absence.

Shortly after that, Jesus fired an effort back across goal following a Foden through-pass, the ball sailing past the post. That was the striker’s last involvement before Riyad Mahrez (£8.6m) took to the field in his place, shifting Sterling into a central role for the front-three.

After that tactical switch, Foden was the only Manchester player who went close, showing some nice feet at close-range by the near post before Ramsdale did enough to smother a point-blank shot.

Littered between those sparing chances for the home team, were the reason why they struggled to get any rhythm going forward: Bournemouth’s constant desire to create problems of their own.

Josh King (£6.1m) was the man asking questions in the first half, helped in his efforts by Dominic Solanke‘s (£5.1m) spirited pressing of Manchester City’s centre-back pairing.

After the former Liverpool man had won a 33rd-minute free-kick on the edge of the box, Junior Stanislas (£5.8m) nearly found the back of the net, his effort hitting the post, then Ederson’s head, and the woodwork once more.

But Eric Garcia (£4.5m) coming on to replace right-back Kyle Walker (£5.6m) at half time, and in the introduction of Callum Wilson (£7.4m) and David Brooks (£6.1m) played the biggest part in Bournemouth’s second-half onslaught, potentially even earning some Fantasy attention for the two players.

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It was Brooks who fed King at the back post when he found the net but was adjudged to be offside and the Welshman was the man to get the Cherries’ deserved goal in the 88th minute.

Wilson sprung through on the right-hand side, squaring to a completely unmarked Brooks in a central location, who was left to provide a routine finish under virtually no pressure.

A minute later, Wilson almost got the equaliser as a loose ball squirted in his direction and he struck it wide on the turn.

With Southampton (home) and Everton (away), their final two matches of the season, and Premier League survival on the line, there could be worse punts to take a risk on than Bournemouth assets, especially considering the recent performances.

As we’ve already discussed, the Cherries probably could have, and should have, come away from the Etihad Stadium with a point, so with their win over Leicester and two goals at Old Trafford, there’s every chance they could get at least some attacking returns in the last two Gameweeks.

Manchester City XI (4-3-3): Ederson; Mendy (Zinchenko 77′), Otamendi, Stones, Walker (Garcia 46′); Fernandinho, Gündogan (Rodri 68′), D Silva; Foden, Jesus (Mahrez 77′), B Silva (Sterling 46′).

Bournemouth XI (4-5-1): Ramsdale; Rico, L Kelly, S Cook, Stacey; J King (H Wilson 77′), Billing (Surridge 90′), Lerma, Gosling (L Cook 70′), Stanislas (Brooks 69′); Solanke (C Wilson 69′).

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  1. SydneyFPL
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Fabianksi (Martinez)
    AWB, Azpi, KWP (Justin, CTaylor)
    Pulisic, Sterlin, KDB, Bruno (Antonio)
    Greenwood, Ings, Jesus

    2m itb, planned to do Jesus to Auba which frees up city spot for Silva in 38, but debating that move with the FA Cup game coming after the deadline.

    Greenwood to Wood maybe?

    1. yakirh
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Start Martinez over Fabianski

  2. Letsgo!
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    You guys think dsilva will starr both gw37 and 38?

    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      no

    2. Traction Engine Foot
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Think it's likely.

    3. JJeyy
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      yes

    4. Bleh
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      I’m keeping for both.

    5. Utopsis
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Yes won't play FA cup

  3. Champions League Varane
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Wood or Auba for the last 2?

    And why?
    .

    1. ambergamer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Wood - fixtures, focal point of attack & over £5m to spend elsewhere.

  4. Rover
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Pope
    Digne VvD AWB
    Sterling Bruno Martial Pulisic Antonio
    Kane Wood

    Returned from a FH to the above team which I'm pretty happy with, and GW38 transfer plans would be to target City attackers depending on minutes against Watford. Which of the following transfers would you make for GW37?

    A) Pulisic > Salah
    B) Kiko > Tarkowski and bench VVD in GW37, bench AWB in GW38

    1. FPL Theorist
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      B

  5. davies
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Which option?

    A) Digne Foden
    B) Pieters Dilva

    1. Traction Engine Foot
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      B

    2. Bleh
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Easy B

    3. Jayv807
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      B

  6. Traction Engine Foot
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    What's the general view on Mahrez? Worth holding until the end? I'm considering dropping him for Dilva.

    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      keep

    2. Rover
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Hold for now. Make the move in GW 38 depending on minutes in GW37

      1. Traction Engine Foot
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers, that does seem to make the most sense.

  7. JJeyy
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    A) Jota to Wood
    B) Basham to Tarkowski
    C) Both for -4

    1. waldo666
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      A

    2. FPL Theorist
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      A

    3. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Did Wood look dangerous today?

      1. JJeyy
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 9 months ago

        0.47NPxG today, pretty good considering he was against the best defence in the league. Also it's Norwich who can't defend headers.

    4. ambergamer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      A. I’m bringing him in too.

  8. FPL Theorist
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Really enjoying the season analysis tools from FPL Statistico (https://www.anewpla.net/fpl/report/)

    I'm curious to hear, which captain has given you the highest average points (minimum 3 times selected)? For me it's KDB (7 times for 140 points, 20.0 average).

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Salah 9 times, 192 points, 21.3 avg

    2. JJeyy
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Salah, 6 times for an average of 21.3

    3. TomSaints
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Great site
      Salah 4 times 90 points (but included TC)

      13 captain blanks is painful but still returned 506 points which seems ok

      1. FPL Theorist
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 9 months ago

        Yes, I think it's better than most!

      2. 272MK
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 9 months ago

        amazing site.

        Salah for me.

        Wow if I captained the right player every time I would be num 11 overall

    4. FPL Theorist
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Very interesting. Salah is 2nd for me with 19.1 (7 times for 134 points), which includes TC, so really more like 17 points once you take out the extra from the chip.

    5. Greek Freak
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Salah 14 times - 17.5 average. I only captained KDB twice, wow (one of them was a TC for his solitary assist vs. Newcastle). That might explain my season.

    6. Jayv807
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Thanks for reminding me of the -2 Son got me the one time I captained him...

      Vardy was my best 6 times an average of 17.7 ppg

    7. Rover
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Mine are Martial (1 time, 28 points) and Sterling (3 times, avg 27 points).

      Ironically my lowest captaincy average is Mane and that happened to be my TC chip as well. Worse than a regular captaincy blank of 4 points.

      1. FPL Theorist
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 9 months ago

        You must have capped Sterling for his hat trick. Sterling is my worst with 5 times for only 6.4 average.

        1. Rover
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah, only had him for 3 GWs all season, and capped him in all of them. Lucky for me it turned out to be 3 out of his 4 hauls post restart. Early GW38 captain as well so hopefully another haul there.

    8. Traction Engine Foot
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Salah, 8 times, 176 points, average 22 points.

      1. Traction Engine Foot
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 9 months ago

        TC'd him in GW24.

      2. FPL Theorist
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 9 months ago

        Impressive!

  9. Will J 256
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on Maguire and Pulisic to Tarkowski and Martial for a -4??

  10. Jayv807
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Lascelles to Bardsley a decent shout? I don't have Pope or any other Burnley defender.

    1. FPL Theorist
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Yes

    2. Traction Engine Foot
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Seems a good move.

    3. Bleh
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Yep if you don’t have any more pressing issues for 37

    4. Jayv807
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Thanks all

    5. FCSB
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      have you considered Pieters?

  11. Werner Bremen
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    A Tarkowski and Lamptey
    B Dunk and Long

    1. Jayv807
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      A

  12. trafalgarlaw
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    What to do here ?
    1FT, 0,9ITB, no chips left

    Pope
    TAA Doherty AWB
    Bruno Salah Mahrez KDB
    Nketiah Greenwood Vardy

    Martin Willian Saiss Lascelles

    A. Vardy, Salah -> Ings, Sterling (-4)
    B. Vardy, Willian -> Ings, Dilva (-4)
    C. Greenwood, Salah -> Ings, Martial (-4)
    D. Just Vardy to Ings
    Or other moves

    Thx mate

  13. The Polymath
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Looking at

    GW37+ (-4)
    Ings-->Vardy
    Saka--> Foden

    GW38+ (-4)
    Martial-->D SIlva
    Jimenez-->Auba

    Already have KDB, so will have triple City v Norwich.

    Good moves?

    1. 272MK
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      woah you confident Foden will start? Dayyum coincidentally I posted about that just below

      1. The Polymath
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 9 months ago

        Good Point

  14. Moose™
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    How many points you reckon that Rashy and Vardy expected gonna haul? Having a tight race in my ML.. Hanging by a 21 points lead..

    1. 272MK
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Rashy - 8, maaaaybe, 13
      Vardy - 6, or 8. Haul against Sheffield? Non member here, but isn't Sheffield's defense amazing?

    2. Krafty Werks
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      2 & 8

  15. 272MK
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Will Foden starts GW 37? Many will say he never starts Away, but looking at past fixtures seems like he starts 1 in 2 fixtures.

    Starting from:

    LIV (90mins)
    sou (30mins)
    NEW (60mins)
    bha (27mins)
    BOU (90mins)

    so logically if he doesn't starts in FA, he should start against watford?

    Of course before LIV he had:

    BUR(78mins)
    che(0mins)
    NEWCASTLE FAcup (36mins)

    1. 272MK
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      but Newcastle FA cup was important tho, so logically he didn't start no?

    2. FCSB
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      yeah i mean if he doesnt playh in FA cup he should start v watford but you never know with Pep

  16. The-Red-1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Willian out for Dilva or Foden a good sub for 37?

    1. 272MK
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      sure Foden won't start? Dayyum I just posted bout that above you concidentally

    2. Traction Engine Foot
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Yes, I think Dilva outscores him next 2.

  17. Will J 256
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on Maguire and Pulisic to Tarkowski and Martial for a -4??. Relying on your opinions

    1. Will J 256
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Sorry that should have a few emojis!

      1. ambergamer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 9 months ago

        Considering Tarkowski myself. Is the Man Utd shuffle because you have three already? If so go for it, I’d expect T & M to score more than four more over the last two weeks.

        1. Will J 256
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 9 months ago

          Yes just fancy maximising the attack as martial has a great home record! Hope you are having a great gameweek

          1. ambergamer
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 9 months ago

            Yes have had a pretty good week so far thanks (brought in Pulisic & David Silva for Mané & Saka for a -4). With you on the Man Utd attack, I’ve got Bruno, Martial & Wan-Bissaka, though would ideally like another Fw. The -4 is a bit of a deal breaker for me though, especially with other good options available (depending on what you have already of course).

  18. Dynamic Duos
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Salah and Pulisic to KDB and Mahrez for Manchester midfield?

    Sterling KDB Mahrez Bruno Martial

  19. spamking
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    I'm first in my ML with no chips left. 2nd and 3rd are 2 points behind!

    Pope
    TAA, Egan, Azpi (Alonso, Fodder)
    KDB, Sterling, Fernandes, Pulisic, Antonio
    Rashford, Ings, Greenwood

    What's the best move here, they both have Martial, Bruno, Greenwood.

    1. Sterling > Martial, Rashford > Auba (-4). Is that madness?
    2. Alonso > O'Connel, Rashford > Auba (-4)

    1. Moose™
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Wew 2 points only.. Im on 13 atm.. Last 3 gw have been horrible haha

  20. Freshy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Did I miss something?
    Id rather have Ings at BOU over Vardy at Totts

    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      (REPLY FAIL)

  21. davies
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Keep or sell Aurier lads?

    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      I wouldnt mind having the Egan fella

  22. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Last Man Standing Semi Final Update (7 teams)

    Current safety score with autosubs = 17
    Top score = Old School with 65
    LMS average = 21.43 (-1.14) = 20.29
    Players played = 7.43/12.0
    Captains played = 71.43%

    5 games + autosubs to go.

    https://www.livefpl.net/LMS

  23. spamking
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Who scores more points over the next 2 GW,
    1. Auba
    2. Martial

    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Auba

    2. Champions League Varane
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      2

      I’d ask someone else tho lmao

  24. MosF94
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Which players who had average/rubbish seasons this year do we think will be good picks next season?

    1. Champions League Varane
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Let’s be honest Sterling was a no go most of the season and next season he will be good too

      Not to say he was rubbish just bad for FPL most of the year

      1. ZimZalabim
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 9 months ago

        only in 2020 he was almost essential at the start of the season

    2. ZimZalabim
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      pepe

  25. Dynamic Duos
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Son has matched his best season with 23 goal involvements

  26. The-Red-1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    I'm dropping a Chelsea midfield against Liverpool. Who stays?

    Willian or pulisic?

    1. Moose™
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Even I have Willian.. Pulisic since restart have only blanked once..

    2. FCSB
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Willian

    3. ambergamer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Pulisic, but so many good options in midfield a -4 to replace both could easily pay off over the last couple of weeks.

  27. Don Kloppeone
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Not sure what to do here. A hit before using FH in 38+ seems stupid but I feel the squad is lacking in a few areas:

    1FT 0.1itb
    Pope
    TAA, Doherty, Kiko*
    Salah, Sterling, Dilva, Bruno, Pulisic*
    Vardy, Ings
    (Martin) (Greenwood, Lascelles*, Simpson)

    A) Lascelles/ Kiko > Pieters
    B) Vardy, Lascelles > Wood, Tarkowski (-4)
    C) Vardy, Pulisic > Wood, Martial (-4)
    D) Any other combo

    Cheers

    1. ZimZalabim
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      B and C both look good, probably C for me

    2. ambergamer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Perhaps just Taylor for Lascelles this week? Gives you coverage of a likely Burnley clean sheet. If Leicester look rubbish again vs Sheffield Utd then yes, B looks good.

  28. Moose™
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Early thoughts? 2FT here..

    Martinez

    TAA Doherty Digne

    Mane KdB Bruno Willian

    Rashford Vardy Greenwood*

    3.9 Taylor* Guendouzi 3.9

    2FT & 0.0ITB

    Thanks..

    Leading my ML by 13 points margin only (if Rashford and Vardy haul, then I could increase my lead)..

    Any ideas lads? He had Antonio, Jimmy, Mahrez, Pulisic..

    Should I match his picks to secure my ML?

    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Vardy and Willian
      to
      Auba and MC Mid

      1. Moose™
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 9 months ago

        Cant afford Dilva.. Foden is nailed? Greenwood is injured tho.. Risky if not having a nailed attacker..

  29. FCSB
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    12 from 6 (inc. captain)

    These last 3 gameweeks have been terrible !!

    OR 20k down to 80k

    🙁

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 9 months ago

      Polar opposite to smashing it that 🙁

      1. FCSB
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 9 months ago

        it was looking oh so promising after the first 2 restart weeks

  30. 272MK
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    Will Foden start against Watford? He starts every 1 in 2 matches. So if he dosn't start in FA Cup surely against Watford then? I mean doesn't it seems he just starts every home match because of the fixtures (starting from LIV home)