The Promoted

Assessing Matheus Pereira and West Brom’s attacking assets ahead of FPL return

Our series of articles on the promoted sides continues with a look at West Bromwich Albion’s midfielders and forwards.

We have already assessed the Baggies’ manager and defence, with focus now switching to the exciting Matheus Pereira and the supporting cast.

WHAT IS WEST BROMWICH ALBION’S GOAL-SCORING POTENTIAL?

West Brom were promoted from the Championship with the joint-second-best attacking record, having scored 77 goals – the same as champions Leeds United – in their 46 league fixtures.

That was three short of Brentford’s total and 16 fewer than Norwich City had managed in 2018/19.

No side from the English second tier plundered more goals than the Baggies on their own turf (44) but four clubs scored on more occasions than Slaven Bilic’s troops on the road (33).

Albion were second behind Leeds for attempts on goal (676) and shots in the box (418) in 2019/20.

That they sealed automatic promotion with a limited strike force (not one of their players was in the top 30 for Championship goals scored) was some achievement but their overreliance on Pereira and lack of a top-class striker is something that needs addressing this summer, as Albion fan and ex-sports journalist Matt Wilson told us:

At the moment, a lot is reliant on how Pereira plays.

Albion need to sign a first-choice striker this summer because Hal Robson-Kanu and Kenneth Zohore are probably not Premier League quality, even though Robson-Kanu’s just had the best season of his career, and while Charlie Austin knows where the net is, he’s got a lot of miles in his legs now.

Grady Diangana provided a real threat on loan from West Ham last season, and would have scored more if he hadn’t been injured, but whether we can re-sign him either on loan or permanently remains to be seen.

In my opinion, Albion need to sign a striker and a winger this summer or they could struggle to score.

PLAYER-BY-PLAYER

MATHEUS PEREIRA

Attacking Midfielder

Starts: 38 | Substitute appearances: 4 | Goals: 8 | Assists: 16

The stand-out Fantasy option from the West Brom attack, and perhaps the only convincing one at present, is Mateus Pereira.

The Brazilian was signed on a season-long loan deal from Sporting CP last summer, with the move set to become permanent imminently.

After a handful of substitute appearances, his full Albion debut came in the Championship equivalent of Gameweek 6 and he went on to start 38 of the Baggies’ remaining 41 games, missing two of them through suspension.

Featuring chiefly in ‘the hole’ in Bilic’s 4-2-3-1, Pereira was moved to a right-wing role upon the switch to a 4-3-3 earlier this calendar year, with the absence of a number ten in that system still allowing the Brazilian to drift infield into dangerous possessions on his favoured left foot.

Wherever he plays, he is key to Albion’s attack.

A total of 16 assists (and that’s discounting ‘Fantasy assists’) and 116 chances created were not only highs in the West Brom squad but the best in the entire division.

No Albion player could match Pereira’s shot count (111), either, with only eight Championship players – many of them bona fide strikers – beating that tally.

His total of 20 big chances created was another figure that was unsurpassed in the English second tier in 2019/20.

On a share of corner-taking duties and first in line for direct free-kicks, Pereira may offer multiple routes to Fantasy points next season.

The problem with that, of course, is that FPL Towers are likely to have already taken notice.

We can cite the cases of Mario Vrancic and Ryan Sessegnon in previous seasons, with both players coming up from the Championship off the back of excellent campaigns and slapped with prohibitive £6.5m price tags.

He is unlikely to be anything less than £6.0m based on past evidence but he was the first name that former Express and Star reporter Matt Wilson picked out when we spoke last week:

The obvious attacking candidate [for FPL managers] is Matheus Pereira, who was Albion’s creative spark last season. Not only did he contribute 16 assists, the most by any player in a single Championship season for five years, he also scored eight goals. He takes free-kicks and corners, and Slaven Bilic is expected to build his attack around him.

HAL ROBSON-KANU

Forward

Starts: 24 | Substitute appearances: 15 | Goals: 10 | Assists: 1

Whether West Brom adopt a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-3-3, there is only room for one striker in Bilic’s set-up.

Hal Robson-Kanu was the go-to striker from November onwards, with 22 of his 24 starts coming from the Championship equivalent of Gameweeks 16-39.

The Wales international was the Baggies’ joint-top scorer on 10 goals, his best-ever tally in 11 seasons of professional football.

That perhaps tells FPL managers all they need to know and, as we discussed earlier, there are obvious reservations about whether the 31-year-old forward can belatedly make the step up to the Premier League.

Full of endeavour and decent at holding the ball up, Robson-Kanu is nevertheless not a natural goal-getter and Bilic will surely look to bolster his striking options over the summer.

‘Impact substitute’ or willing runner in the trickier away games may well be the Welshman’s remit in 2020/21, then.

CHARLIE AUSTIN

Forward

Starts: 18 | Substitute appearances: 16 | Goals: 10 | Assists: 2

While Robson-Kanu isn’t an instinctive goalscorer, Charlie Austin very much is.

The former Southampton man recorded almost twice as many big chances (22) as any other Albion player despite starting just 18 games, with all but seven of his 54 shots coming from inside the opposition area.

Only the sparingly used Kenneth Zohore had better accuracy than Austin among West Brom’s attacking options, with 44.4% of the latter’s shots landing on target.

Austin took four of West Brom’s seven penalties in 2019/20, with Zohore (two) and Robson-Kanu (one) responsible for the others.

While he may be adept at finding the opposition net, his lack of mobility and that poacher’s mindset arguably means that he is not a natural fit for Bilic’s system, where the lone frontman is required to put in the graft.

Indeed, Austin was benched in 26 of the 44 Championship matches he was available for last season.

Given the step up in class in the Premier League, the 31-year-old striker may see pitch-time even more restricted next season.

MATT PHILLIPS

Winger

Starts: 30 | Substitute appearances: 9 | Goals: 7 | Assists: 6

FPL managers may remember Matt Phillips‘ previous contributions as a budget midfielder for Albion, QPR and Blackpool and he will return for a fifth season as a Premier League player in 2019/20.

How prominent a role he will play is another question.

Phillips made more Championship starts (30) than all of the Baggies’ attacking midfielders bar Pereira last season but only three of them arrived in the final 16 matches, with indifferent form, a change of shape and the arrival of some January window signings shunting him down the pecking order.

Although an inconsistent performer, seven goals in his first 18 starts of the season did underscore what he is capable of on his day.

Operating almost exclusively on the right flank in a 4-2-3-1, he was the sacrificial lamb when Bilic moved Pereira out wide from a number ten role upon the change to a 4-3-3.

Up until that point, Phillips had been responsible for a large chunk of the Baggies’ set plays and indeed none of his teammates took more corners than the winger (120) over the whole of 2019/20.

Pereira (20) was the only Albion player who created more big chances (14) than Phillips last season.

FILIP KROVINOVIC, GRADY DIANGANA AND CALLUM ROBINSON

Attacking Midfielder/Wingers

Krovinovic

Starts: 24 | Substitute appearances: 16 | Goals: 3 | Assists: 2

Diangana

Starts: 23 | Substitute appearances: 7 | Goals: 8 | Assists: 6

Robinson

Starts: 10 | Substitute appearances: 6 | Goals: 3 | Assists: 2

These three players all made key contributions to the promotion push but all were loanees and it’s by no means certain that they will be back at The Hawthorns in 2020/21.

Krovinovic perhaps looks the likeliest to return, with West Brom reportedly in discussions over a second loan from Benfica.

He appeared in 40 of Albion’s 46 league matches last season but 16 of those came as a substitute and there would have to be concerns about security of starts should he rejoin the Baggies this summer.

Having ceded control of the number ten slot to Pereira early in the season, the Croat started just four games between Gameweeks 6 and 23 of the Championship campaign.

A change of system after Christmas saw Krovinovic return to the fold and it may be that his chances of starts in the top flight hinge on Albion’s formation.

With Bilic using a 4-3-3 more and more in the second half of the campaign, Krovinovic was deployed in a three-man central midfield with Romaine Sawyers and Jake Livermore.

Three goals and two assists doesn’t scream huge Fantasy potential, however.

Grady Diangana and Callum Robinson would be slightly more attractive picks, should they return to the West Midlands.

Both players we know about from their stints in the Premier League and Robinson was briefly an ‘out of position’ FPL midfielder to consider in 2019/20, before temporarily departing from Sheffield United in January.

Both loanees spent most of their time on the left flank under Bilic.

Robinson was thrust straight into the starting XI upon his move but, after nine successive starts, was dropped to the bench in the next seven games and only returned on the final day – surprisingly as a central striker – against QPR.

Two of his five attacking returns indeed came in that 2-2 draw with the Rs.

Muscle problems in December and January disrupted Diangana’s season but he was a regular in the first half of the campaign, starting 12 straight games from Gameweeks 9-20.

Returning from injury after lockdown, he was mostly the preferred option down the left flank in the run-in – but ‘mostly’ is the operative word there and, unlike Pereira, was still prone to rotation amid the fixture pile-up.

Diangana and Robinson both bested Pereira for ‘big chances’ last season despite playing far fewer minutes (nine each v five for Pereira), with Robinson in particular posting some eye-catching numbers.


PlayerMins per shotMins per shot in boxMins per shot on targetMins per chance created
Pereira30.460.396.429.1
Krovinovic41.0109.2134.951.0
Phillips39.281.0142.944.2
Diangana39.764.493.445.5
Robinson21.429.456.947.4

ROMAINE SAWYERS

Central Midfielder

Starts: 42 | Goals: 1 | Assists: 1

Unless Bilic reinforces his options in the middle of the park this summer, Romaine Sawyers is destined to be one of the £4.5m FPL midfielders we can count on for starts and little else next season.

The Saints Kitts and Nevis international joined from Brentford last summer and started 42 of Albion’s 46 league fixtures, with three of his no-shows enforced by suspension.

A Bilic signing, he is clearly a big favourite of his manager’s and has been hailed as “instrumental” by the Albion head coach.

The midfield metronome played in the double-pivot of a 4-2-3-1 with Jake Livermore for much of the campaign and, when Bilic switched to a 4-3-3, was the deepest-lying player in that central midfield trio.

Six shots in the box and one goal in 42 appearances highlights his lack of Fantasy appeal and, while one assist undersells his overall contribution the team, a minutes-per-chance-created average of 97.9 cements his status as FPL bench fodder.

JAKE LIVERMORE

Central Midfielder

Starts: 43 | Substitute appearances: 2 | Goals: 3 | Assists: 4

Sawyers’ partner in crime for much of 2019/20, Jake Livermore at least chipped in with a few more attacking returns than his aforementioned teammate.

A workhorse, aggressive presser and perhaps more renowned for his defensive contributions (he made more successful tackles than any of his teammates last season), Livermore has nevertheless had more license to get forward than Sawyers, registering almost three times as many shots as his midfield colleague (55 v 19).

The ex-Spurs and Hull player was particularly ‘box to box’ when Bilic switched to a 4-3-3 after Christmas, with the Albion manager discussing his tactical tweak :

To be fair Jake has been up there the whole season, no matter which position. Whether he’s playing deeper, or like recently further up the pitch.

It gives Jake, not a free license, but a license to press them higher and to join them up in the box, to be more free, which is good.

Livermore created even fewer chances than Sawyers last season (36 v 38) and seems pretty much guaranteed to be in the £4.5m-£5.0m bracket when FPL relaunches.

THE REST

Signed from Cardiff City for a reported £8m last summer, Kenneth Zohore started only five Championship matches for Albion and racked up fewer minutes of pitch-time than 19 of his teammates in 2019/20.

The striker scored on just three occasions – twice from the penalty spot – and only made Bilic’s starting XI once after August, failing to even make the matchday squad in over half of his side’s fixtures.

Reports suggest the Baggies will be prepared to listen to offers for the Dane this summer.

Such is the state of flux that Albion find themselves in at present that wingers Kamil Grosicki and Kyle Edwards could be either surplus to requirements or in line for a start in Gameweek 1.

Attacking midfielders Pereira, Krovinovic, Diangana and Robinson played prominent roles for Bilic in the promotion-winning campaign but all will need replacing if their moves aren’t made permanent or another loan deal is not agreed upon.

Grosicki was signed from Hull City in January but had to wait until July for his full Albion debut, having only seen action off the bench before that.

The Poland international then started four games in a row on the left flank but was back among the substitutes by the season’s end, having contributed one goal and three assists in his 492 minutes of game-time.

Inclined to cut inside and shoot on his favoured right foot, Grosicki averaged a goal attempt every 30.8 minutes for Albion in 2019/20.

He also scored four direct free-kick goals for Hull in league and cup last season but faces a tough task in ousting Pereira from dead-ball duties with the Baggies.

Edwards, who progressed through Albion’s academy system before making his club debut in 2018/19, started the season out as first choice down the left flank but the arrivals of Diangana, Robinson and Grosicki ate into his pitch-time and he didn’t make a single Championship start from February onwards.

Almost two-thirds (17 of 26) of his appearances came as a substitute, with the 22-year-old scoring twice but failing to register a single assist.

Squad player status looks likely at best, along with a cheap FPL price tag.

That may well also be the case for Rekeem Harper although, following the rise to prominence of John Lundstram (who barely featured in Sheffield United’s promotion-winning campaign), never say never.

Harper started only four Championship matches last season, barely featuring in the first half of 2019/20 before twice deputising for the unavailable Sawyers in February.

A central midfielder by trade, he isn’t likely to appeal even if he is given game-time: he managed only one shot in the box and two key passes in his ten run-outs in the season just gone.

Chris Brunt departed last month after 13 years with the Baggies, while 39-year-old Gareth Barry also becomes a free agent this summer.

Oliver Burke is at the opposite end of his career but has spent the last 18 months out on loan at Celtic and Alaves and is thought to be on his way out of The Hawthorns.

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1,125 Comments Post a Comment
  1. R.C
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Sancho will be a Red Devil this month.

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      The saga continues...

    2. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      By this do you mean he will ruin United's day

    3. FPL Pillars
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      And benteke will win the golden boot

      1. Botman and Robben
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Nah, I'm betting on Joelinton to win it.

        1. UnitedFan
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          😆

    4. El Presidente
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Who cares?...

  2. o0Ash
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    On the FPL app, it lets me pick a team name and then a squad from scratch. It's just the players and prices from the end of the season, though. Bug? Sorry if everyone's already posted this.

    1. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      It's still last season's game. New season won't launch until after fixtures are released

  3. Bun Rab
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    1-0 Inter Barella G

  4. Big boy Bowen
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Just seen United lineup, has DDG lost his place?

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Nope. Romero is the cup keeper.

  5. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Man, just look at the midfield options we could have to date of moves and rumoured moves if it all had to pan out. We ain't hardly done with the transfer window so there could still be other surprises.

    We will be spoiled for choice

    Auba, Mane, Sterling, Salah, Grealish, KDB, Havertz, Sancho, Rashford, Pulisic, Mahrez, Son, Willian, Fernandes, Mahrez, Bilva, Greenwood, Traore, Barnes, Mount, Ziyech, McNeil and perhaps Coutinho.

    Forward option with some poisition changes and newbies going to spice it up...

    Richarlison, Vardy, Kane, Antonio, Werner, Firmino, Ings, Martial, Jimenez, Jesus, Abraham, Wood, Aguero, DCL pending new arrivals too.

    Liking the look of it all.

    1. Greek Freak
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Forwards: Auba, Salah, Sterling, Mane, Martial, Rashford, Greenwood, Jimenez, Ings, Werner, Vardy, Kane, Aguero, Jesus. 😛

      That still leaves KDB, Bruno, Son, Pulisic, Willian, Ziyech, Grealish, Bernado Silva, Traore, Barnes, Mount, McNeil and the two Mahrezes as mids.

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Your midfield options everyones midfield would start with

        KDB Pulisic Bruno

        Nah...

  6. Bun Rab
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    2-0 Lukaku G Ash Young A

    1. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Im watching the United game and this isnt true, still 0-0

  7. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Penchester United not exclusive to PL

    1. El Presidente
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Nice... and true!!

  8. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Inter actually use a target man, love it

  9. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Referee awarded United a pen for no reason. Thankful for VAR.

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
        3 years, 7 months ago

        They didn't really show a replay of whether it was a foul or not but alas it doesn't matter as Maguire was offside

    2. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      2-1 Havertz

    3. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Well if United go out and Wolves lose tomorrow, it makes the start of the season for us a heck of a lot simpler!

      1. Greek Freak
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I'm hoping they blank so I can see Maximus Bonimus Pointimus advise people to start with KDB and Bruno and just take the blanks on the chin 😀

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Ha ha

      2. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yep

      3. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        You like what you’re seeing from your United scouting? 🙂

    4. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Really harsh pen overturned after VAR review. Pen was fior Inter. Lukaku was gonna take.

    5. Eze Really?
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Mancs need Sancho LOL

      1. Digital-Real
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Apparently they have Greenwood, most gifted youngster. I don't see what all the fuss is about. Has nothing to his game other than a shot, against weak Premier league defences.

        1. Eze Really?
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Agreed. The teenager is the best player for ManU atm. Also I don't understand why Sancho would want to go to United. Dortmund a better side.

          1. Digital-Real
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Are you referring to Greenwood or Sancho as the best teenager for Man U?

            1. Eze Really?
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Greenwood.

              1. Digital-Real
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                i don't rate Greenwood, seen enough to reach that conclusion. Happy to be proved wrong.

                1. Eze Really?
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Now that is a surprise! I am definitely not a ManU fan but I can recognise Greenwood class. You are the first person I have heard such a comment from.

                  1. Camzy
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Because he has no idea what he's talking about

                2. Zimo
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  U must be the greatest scout in the world XD which team do you work for?

                  1. Eze Really?
                    • 9 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Go easy on on him bud. He might like FPL and copies his mates.

                    1. Zimo
                      • 5 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Haha okay

        2. @persecuted_by_mods
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Jesus Christ there are bad opinions and then there's this

            1. Digital-Real
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              will revisit this in the future.

              1. Zimo
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Lol

              2. Camzy
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                He's 18 years old and has scored 18 goals... His ceiling is insane. You're expecting him to be a finished product already...

                1. Eze Really?
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  To me he is worth more than Sancho

                  1. Flaming Flamingo
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Sancho is a much better player than Greenwood is currently. Greenwood has plenty of time to improve, but he still has a lot to add to his game to reach the level Sancho is now imo.

                    1. Eze Really?
                      • 9 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      TBF I cannot really comment. I have seen so little of Sancho. But, then again, how many have seen Sancho that much?

                      1. Flaming Flamingo
                        • 7 Years
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        Fair, but we of all people should be capable of combining the eye test with statistics. For what it's worth, I struggle to find what Greenwood is better than Sancho at. People will say finishing, but even there Sancho's numbers are extremely impressive.

                        1. Eze Really?
                          • 9 Years
                          3 years, 7 months ago

                          We have all looked at the stats. It is easier for me to recognise Greenwood because I have been watching him every week. The other thing is how do Sancj stats stand up in the PL? not saying they wont though.

                        2. Eze Really?
                          • 9 Years
                          3 years, 7 months ago

                          see below

                        3. Eze Really?
                          • 9 Years
                          3 years, 7 months ago

                          problems getting my post to you

                    2. Andy_Social
                      • 11 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      But not 120 million quid better. Mind you I can see Sancho inside right, Greenwood down the centre and Tony/Marcus fighting it out for inside left.

            2. Eze Really?
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Greenwood is class and will prove it in time. He must go to a decent side though. Maybe Dortmund would want a swap deal LOL

          • Bobby Reds
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            You dont know anything about football.

        3. Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Shocking how little United are creating.. Ole just relying on his midfielders to carve through the defense, no overall plan.

          1. FOO FIGHTER
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Sancho incoming lol

            1. Eze Really?
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Why would Sancho want to drop in standard?

              1. FOO FIGHTER
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                He will be one of the highest earning youngsters. Money rules all.

                1. FOO FIGHTER
                  • 4 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  It is all an accident waiting to happen tbf.

                  1. Eze Really?
                    • 9 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Agreed

          2. Eze Really?
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Full backs are too narrow. That must be an Olli thing.

          3. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Yep

            Copenhagen have a really tidy defensive record too in UEFA this year - 8 conceded in 12 matches by my count. They look decent

            1. pingissimus
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Timing 🙂

      2. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        great finish Greenwood, offside-var-check

        1. SADIO SANÉ
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          offside - sorry if I'm miles behind you lot 😀

      3. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Greenwood unlucky

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          That was a cracking finish.

      4. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        For my draft FPL side, I'd prefer United to lose this a start the season on time.

      5. R.C
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        United need Matic

      6. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        people thinking Greenwood mid? price guess?

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          6.5

        2. Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          7.5

          1. Brosstan
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            He should be more but I think he will be 7.5

        3. Goonsquad245
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          8 minimum

        4. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          7.5 if lucky, probably 8m

          1. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Jim started at 7.5 on the back of a 180 season. Yes there’s a bump for playing at United but 8.0 seems too much

            1. Brosstan
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Jim was too cheap and it showed this season

            2. SADIO SANÉ
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              he was 7.1 at one point 😀

          2. FOO FIGHTER
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            3.3 ppg. He had a good season but then the likes of Wood and Ayew should also be at 8m if such a massive increase for Greenwood. I will skip Greenwood if he is more than 6.5.

            Cannot see them almost doubling Greenwood.

            1. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Those games were mostly brief substitute appearances. He's expected to start plenty games this season - assuming Sancho doesn't arrive. If that transfer saga is back on when FPL Towers are ready to release prices, it's going to give them a nightmare of a dilemma.

              1. FOO FIGHTER
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                3.3ppg still does not warrant such a massive hike.

                1. Brosstan
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  You repeat 3.3 ppg but thats a hugely misleading stat and you know it.

                  1. FOO FIGHTER
                    • 4 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    So 5.9ppg from Pulisic is misleading?

                    Bruno points per game?

                    I can understand Greenwood has had a good season but first of all, for Greenwood to even be considered at 8.0 he needs to be nailed and it as clear as day that UTD are after a wide player for the right and will sign one.

                    Just my opinion that Greenwood at that price is a no from me.

                    1. Goonsquad245
                      • 7 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      They have to price him as though he is though. Can’t just assume united will sign someone, and if they do it might not be a replacement but a back up.

                      6.5 would be a complete joke.

                      1. FOO FIGHTER
                        • 4 Years
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        Yes they could sign a backup and that would be the more logical thing to do but they are chasing Sancho so that suggests they want to go big.

                        1. Goonsquad245
                          • 7 Years
                          3 years, 7 months ago

                          OK, but my point is they can’t price him on the assumption that they’ll sign a big name player so he won’t play.

                          They have to price him as if he’s nailed. He won’t be lower than 8m, 8.5m if he’s a mid.

                          To your point below, he’s a completely different player in a different team with a different ceiling to Barnes and Mount.

            2. SADIO SANÉ
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              know what was his ppg was after lockdown?

              1. FOO FIGHTER
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Well then clearly Bruno will be at 12.5?

                Greenwood at 8m will only be owned by majority UTD fans.

                1. Andy_Social
                  • 11 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Ridiculous. I'm not a United fan and I'd have him. Neutrals can see his quality too.

                  1. FOO FIGHTER
                    • 4 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Bit of tongue in cheek mate.

                  2. Salarrivederci
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Yeah. The kid is class.
                    If no Sancho and classified as a mid it will almost be a nobrainer.

                    With Sancho in the mix he would have to be cheap.
                    Far too many nailed premiums I would throw my money at. Can't have a super-sub blocking 1 premium mid.

                2. SADIO SANÉ
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  it was a genuine question, what are you bringing Bruno into it for?

                  I'd be tempted to own him at 8m if he was down as a mid

                  1. FOO FIGHTER
                    • 4 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Not at 8. Will Barnes or Mount be at 8.0 after having a good season?

                    Think many are hiking Greenwood far too much IMO.

                    1. Andy_Social
                      • 11 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      A fairer comparison would be Pulisic. I'd guess he's 8.5-9m, with Greenwood not that far behind.

                      1. FOO FIGHTER
                        • 4 Years
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        Well in that case I rather go Pulisic mate.

                        1. Andy_Social
                          • 11 Years
                          3 years, 7 months ago

                          Fair enough; I wouldn't. Another comparison - Martial started at 7.5 mid. Greenwood is better than Tony; midfield 0.5m more.

                          1. Salarrivederci
                            • 7 Years
                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            Think you could argue that the 0.5 would be ignored due to suspected nailedness.
                            Think he will be 7.5

                          2. FOO FIGHTER
                            • 4 Years
                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            Hhhmmm, it depends what price Martial is if classified as a fwd. Around 9.5 I am on Martial like a rash.

                            Is he going to be hiked like Greenwood for having a smashing season? Martial was underpriced at OOP.

                    2. SADIO SANÉ
                      • 8 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      I'd be tempted to own him at 8m if he was down as a mid - I wouldn't want Barnes or Mount at that price no

                      1. FOO FIGHTER
                        • 4 Years
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        I would get Greenwood at 8.0 when UTD are bound to sign another wide player for the right.

                        Just saying 😉

                        1. FOO FIGHTER
                          • 4 Years
                          3 years, 7 months ago

                          Sorry WOULDN'T get Greenwood...

        5. SADIO SANÉ
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          similar guesses..think I'd be in

        6. HurriKane
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          7.5 is a fair price

        7. Bobby Reds
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Greenwood and Rashford will be strikers... as they should be.

          1. Salarrivederci
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            This comment provoke me a bit. Sorry.
            What about Salah & Sterling?
            In your world are they placed further behind making more defensive work and playing more in the actual midfield?
            Both have been used more frequently up top as false nine compared to Rash and Green. How come those two have to be classified as forwards when Sterling and Salah ain't?

      7. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Looks like United cant wait for the holiday off. CL spot already secured

      8. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        How is Bruno doing?

        1. HurriKane
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Invisible

        2. Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Needs a penalty to get something

        3. SADIO SANÉ
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          no penalties given yet

      9. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Wonder what’ll become of James at United? Obviously very raw but I thought he showed a bit of promise early on. Greenwood on the wing and caboodles contemplated on Sancho almost looks like that 15 mill is being written off.

        Possible impact player and cup specialist? Suspect he’s older than both Greenwood and Sancho.

        1. Zimo
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Probably will be sold at some point in the next few years if he doesn't improve

      10. The Train Driver
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Greenwood is crazy clinical and with both feet. So rare to see, he will be a superstar!

      11. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Alexis Sanchez time!

        1. Bun Rab
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          And Moses and Eriksen. Ex PL XI

        2. Greek Freak
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I really miss him from FPL - the Arsenal Alexis that is, not the United one!

          1. SADIO SANÉ
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            central Alexis was epic

      12. Zimo
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Fek me Bruno shot off the bar

      13. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Bruno post from range

      14. HurriKane
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Forward pricings sounds about right? Any changes you reckon?

        11.5- Aguero Auba
        11- Vardy
        10.5- Kane
        10.0- Jesus
        9.5- Martial Werner
        9.0- Firmino
        8.5- Ings Jimenez
        8.0- Tammy Giroud
        7.5- Greenwood Antonio
        7.0- Wood DCL Mitrovic
        6.5- Maupay Bamford

        1. Tinkermania
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Kane needs to go to

          1. Tinkermania
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            less than 10

          2. HurriKane
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Had a good end to the season.

            10.5 sounds about right given his goalscoring pedigree

        2. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          DCL has to be 4.5m.

        3. Cok3y5murf
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Many

        4. Greek Freak
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Think Aguero will be cheap enough to be seriously tempting. (10.5 or something).

          I'd swap the Vardy and Kane prices around. Martial and Werner could well be 10 or 10+ but 9.5 isn't unrealistic.

          Firmino needs to be 8 for anyone to even remotely consider him 😀

          Have a feeling Jimenez will be 0.5 more than Ings.

          Id be surprised if Mitrovic came in at 7, and I think Wood also has a chance of being 6.5.

          1. HurriKane
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Mitrovic top scorer of championship and has already got premier league pedigree

            so might add an extra 0.5 to usual price of 6.5 for promoted strikers

            1. Greek Freak
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Hopefully they'll take the quality of Fulham into account 😀

            2. SADIO SANÉ
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              I'd bet big money on him being 6.5, it's practically guaranteed imo

            3. Drexl Spivey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Danny Ings had pedigree - he started at £6m.

        5. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Mitro at 7.0. Lol. 2 week bandwagon then Pukki blanks incoming.

          Wood at that price a good option.

          Like Werner and Martial at those prices too.

          Ings and Jimenez the steals.

        6. Flaming Flamingo
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          At a guess

          11 - Aguero
          10.5 - Vardy, Kane
          10 - Jesus, Martial, Werner
          9 - Jimenez
          8.5 - Ings, Firmino
          8 - Abraham
          7.5 - Giroud
          7 - Antonio, Wood, DCL
          6.5 - Maupay, Mitrovic
          6 - Bamford

          Auba and Greenwood as mids

          1. Goonsquad245
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            This looks good to me.

            I’ll whisper it quietly, but I think firmino could be an option again at 8.5

        7. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Looks mostly perfect

          Werner will probably be 10.5

          Low-key hoping DCL is 6.5

      15. Ninjaa
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        May have been asked a few thousand times but is there any idea of when the new FPL will start and we'll be able to pick new squads???

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I reckon by Friday

      16. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Nearly a truly beautiful goal from FCK

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Tried to make it too beautiful

      17. El Presidente
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Solbakken tactical masterclass on Solskjaer...

      18. KGFC
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Amazing that a full strength United can't even break down Copenhagen! 🙄