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Joshua Bull crowned FPL champion for 2019/20

Joshua Bull has been crowned the 2019/20 Fantasy Premier League champion, with former world number one Aleksandar Antonov stripped of his title.

Almost a year to the day since Gameweek 1 got underway and a fortnight after the season had ended, there was one final plot twist to a chaotic campaign on Tuesday afternoon.

FPL issued a brief statement to say that, after end-of-season checks, “the team formerly occupying the no. 1 position has been removed from FPL due to a breach of our terms”.

The article in which the announcement was made didn’t elaborate on what those breaches were but the erstwhile winner was notified of the decision via email, with his team removed from FPL.

Quite honestly, we don’t know the exact reasons either, so we won’t be adding to the speculation elsewhere.

Joshua moved up to first place as a result of these latest developments, with Chris McGowan – aka site user Queens of the South Age – promoted to runner-up.

Chris was also elevated to winner of our Fantasy Football Scout mini-league as a consequence.

Joshua, who had never previously finished inside the top one million, played his Wildcard in Gameweek 38+, having used his Free Hit chip a week earlier.

He had first entered the top 1,000 in Gameweek 17 and had reached the top ten shortly before lockdown, rising to seventh in Gameweek 29.

Hitting top spot in Gameweek 32+, he had dropped down to second heading into the final Gameweek and looked to have finished there before today’s statement was issued.

Nick Pope, Trent Alexander-Arnold and Kevin De Bruyne never left his squad all season, while Mohamed Salah was only sold for one week.

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  1. bitm2007
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    I have just heard on the local news that sufficient funds have been raised for a statue of Plymouth Argyle legend Jake Leslie to be built and erected. For those who don't know he was selected for England in 1925, but didn't play due to his ethnicity.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53184615

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      As someone who lived and worked in Plymouth for 18 years, I'm delighted to know this.

      Ironically, although I lived 5 minutes from Home Park, after my first year living there, I ceased to follow Argyle - due to the fans' racism. It was the year Argyle got to the FA Cup semi-final versus Watford and I traveled up to Villa Park with the fans. All through the game the guys surrounding me were throwing bananas at John Barnes and making monkey noises. I was actually pleased when Barnes laid on the cross for the Watford goal that won the game. I was cold towards the club after that despite, as a teacher, regularly finding players' kids in my classroom!

      1. bitm2007
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I was there in 1984 as well and didn't notice that, I think I know which part of Home Park those fans use to frequent however. I do remember being showered with coins whilst standing in the Spion Kop thrown by Derby fans in the round before, I picked up about £50 quids worth of 50p coins, but pocked them rather than throwing them back.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Guess I drew the short straw there. Never thought of invading the pitch to collect the bananas, to be fair.

    2. have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Yea I heard about him, they didnt know he was black until they actually saw him, then changed their minds.
      Crazy to think those views really werent that long ago in the grand scheme of things

  2. Nimby
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Getting well impatient now. One of those where you wish you could just sleep until the game relaunches. They could at least tease some player prices!

    1. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Some position/price reveals would be awesome.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Much needed after today. It makes you think about who people really are. We only ever know each other behind computer screens.

        A timely reminder for us all to evaluate our circle of friends etc. We all have a part to play.

        Despite his terrible reaction to the racist incident, I hope Alexsander comes out of this as a better person and understands that any form of racism is wrong.

        1. Botman and Robben
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Indeed, hope he learns from this.

        2. Greek Freak
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Indeed - the first reaction is almost understandable I'd say. "I know I'm not racist - I don't actually hate black people" and then double down on it and be defensive about it. It's human nature - the majority of racist comments don't come from white supremacist types (although those exist too, sadly) who actively think black people are inferior.

          You then have a choice to make - you can either educate yourself on exactly how racism can come in many different guises and change your attitudes, or keep digging essentially.

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              3 years, 7 months ago

              This. He needs to own up, learn from it and become better as a person

        3. FPL Pillars
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Yeah would like a price reveal or two 🙂

    2. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      One of the reasons many of us are in favour of the deadline changing is the sense that FPL has fallen out of touch with the realities of our social media world. With everything so leakable and sharable these days the deadline format as it stands is now jarringly dated.

      Whereas one could look at the decision to strip the title as an example of FPL actually coming to grips with the reality of the world around us. In truth everything you write (even in private conversations) is now extremely shareable. With FPL becoming more and more high profile (to the point where this story has popped up in national papers), more and more people playing the game and more and more people becoming aware of the impact exposing people can have, it was probably inevitable that something like this would eventually occur. Whether involving an FPL winner, FPL show contributer or whatever. This dynamic is present everywhere else online, so eventually it was going to arise within the FPL community.

      I'm not sure it would be viable for them to ignore that sort of information when presented to them, as a decision to do so is itself extremely shareable and has the potential to damage their image. Particularly as it feeds into a larger conversation about racism in football (a point highlighted by the fact that Raheem Sterling was yet again the target in this instance) and the broader conversation around racism that has arisen in the wake of the George Flloyd killing.

      In fact given that he will be allowed to continue playing FPL, one could argue that their decision was actually quite measured. Fans who say similar things in stadiums face potential lifetime bans.

      If nothing else this might be a learning point for some, both in terms of exactly how private (or not) their conversations are and how little intent to cause offense (i.e. "I would never actually say that to the player") matters when expressing racist sentiments.

      I'm sure people are quickly sick of talking about all this but it makes for an interesting conversation within the FPL community, I think.

    3. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      People need to stop linking to that racist loser's social media platforms. All it achieves is giving him more free publicity

    4. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      What was that tweet FPL sent out in the last 2/3 days about Sterling? Really bizarre timing.

      1. Nimby
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Did they have to delete it?

      2. have you seen cyan
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        lmao good point, well we know what the question was now.

        If Sterling is the answer, whats the question?
        Which PL player did the FPL winner racially abuse.

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Quite

          They had to have known about this at the time.

      3. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        C'mon, that had nothing to do with this. It had no deeper intention than keeping us salivating for the new season.

        1. Nimby
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Thing is though, that question was formatted in such a weird way. Everyone knows that "if so and so is the answer what is the question" it means the subject of the question is rubbish. It absolutely invited a pile-on and that's what they got. It was really stupid of them. I hate their Facebook and Twitter pages.

        2. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          No I'm not saying it did. Think they could have chosen another name Andy - especially when they asked such a dubious question that could and I presume did get some "ill-conceived" answers. That's all.

          1. Andy_Social
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Another name - same idiocy.

            De Bruyne - ginger jibes
            Bruno - ABU poison
            Salah - anti-Islamic comments.
            Should all black footballers' faces be hidden because racism exists? I think there is a danger of being too precious about this.

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              I think it's very important part you suggested.
              Causal racism is what the main issue IMHO. We never know when we cross the line !

              It's not possible to remove it completely. But what i can do is to not hurt others based on their colour/religion/size. Maybe that's a good start. I said it previously it is way more than comments ir anything else. It's a part of upbringing.

              Awareness about how someone can get seriously hurt mentally if you make fun of him is what needed not punishment exactly. Empathy ....

            2. Pipermaru
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Haha, I quite often refer to KDB as "ginger" in my private chats, I'm sorry Kevin, I'm a monster.

              PS. from now on it's always Kevin De Bruyne, no more disrespectful abbreviations people.

        3. have you seen cyan
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          It wasnt intentional, but what were they thinking.
          Lack of communication I guess, probably only high up people knew about the racism

      4. Nimby
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Oh yeah I remember. On Facebook everyone just piled on Sterling for being a cheat and overrated. I really hate social media. People thinking that their worthless, over negative opinions are of interest to anyone except themselves. And they were all saying the same thing anyway. I guess at least none of what I saw was racist, but if that's the silver lining then that just tells you about the absolute state of these platforms and the voices they enable. Shut the lot down, I say.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          'everyone'? 'all'?
          Can't say a single post I've seen on Facebook made such comments. I'd advise you to get better Facebook friends!

          1. Nimby
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Haha they weren't my friends. When I say 'everyone' I mean it almost literally. It was overwhelmingly negative and repetitious.

            1. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              'almost literally'. I got it.

      5. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        😀

    5. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Does the UK have public criminal records like the US? If yes then rapists and murderers should probably stop playing FPL because anyone who is winning or top OR at any point will be scrutinized.

    6. michaelington
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      That video is embarrassing, should have just admitted his mistake and apologised. It’s a weird one because on one hand he is totally wrong and his comments are indefensible. But then when did FPL turn into the police? If next season my mini league leader posts something racist, can I get them banned? Is it just racism they issue bans for? What about homophobic comments, transphobic etc. Would the EPL have let Suarez have a medal if Liverpool won the Premier League that season?
      I wonder where they draw the line after this.

      1. jimski
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        The important conclusion from this is that they draw the line at racism. Which is definitely a plus.

        1. Hits from the Bong
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          As a bleeding heart lefty liberal, am I the only one who still wants to be able to play against Tories and Trump supporters and even Tommy Robinson supporting racist thugs for that matter?

      2. have you seen cyan
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Whoever dished the evidence, probably did it annon and gave them an ultimatum.
        Here is the evidence, I hope you take appropriate action against this. If you dont, your knowledge and condoning? of it will be released to the media.
        Thats how someone would do it, with no further contact.

        FPL would rather ban or delete someone then come across as tolerating it, no decision in the matter.

        1. michaelington
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          This is how big FPL has become. I wonder if this was reported for someone ranked 100k, would they take the same action? I hope they would.

          1. Pipermaru
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            I can assure you that they wouldn't.

          2. have you seen cyan
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Cant leverage them with media exposure then.
            They'd claim they never recieved notification, if ever exposed. Or use the defence that they cant police that many accounts, however high profile accounts are liable to due diligiance.

      3. Forza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Suarez was banned for 8 games; his punishment was already served before the end of that season.

    7. JohnnyRev7
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      So FPL Towers is now the new Belarus. Decision made with no explanation. Other than a short terse statement. Have I got the analogy right?

    8. Baron Penguin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Thinking of setting up 4-5-1 with triple Liverpool defence. Has anyone strayed on a 4-5-1 and stuck with it? Anyone got any good/bad experiences?

      Also I don’t watch Bundesliga, and don’t usually punt on newbies for GW1, but how good is Werner and would he be worth a punt at 9.5/10.0?

      1. Baron Penguin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Started, not strayed!

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Yeh, I'll have the triple Reds defence, and I use it quite a bit. I don't stick rigidly to one formation, but with my intended structure I'll be using it along with 3-5-2, 4-4-2, but with most of my budget in defence and midfield, two of my budget strikers will often be benched.

        2. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          You'd be straying 🙂

          Can see the attraction but what would you do with your subs? Two complete fodder up top?

          1. Andy_Social
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Fixed: GK, 3 DEFS, 4 MIDS, 1 FWD.

            That leaves 5 budget players - 2x4.5 defenders, a 4.5 midfielder and 2 budget playing strikers (maybe 5.5 and 5m).
            From those 5, each GW 2 play, 3 on the bench. I will have planned who they are based on 6-week blocks of fixtures. Most of my transfer activity will be focused on these guys. I think it'll work okay.

      2. Hedge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        The issue with 4-5-1 is that there's not normally a £4.5 budget striker and so if your one playing striker gets rested then you don't get anyone off the bench

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          True. I'm looking to buy strikers priced something like 6m, 5m, 5m. Maybe promotees and the likes of Connolly.

          1. Baron Penguin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Wood might come in too high, Adams a possibility. Interesting to see if Brewster is loaned out after being priced up as a Liverpool bench player.

          2. Hedge
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            I think the 8-9m range could be interesting. I think it was two or three seasons ago that Vardy and Forming (both around 9m) we're really good shouts for PPM and I think we could be in for something similar. I could see Martial being good, and maybe Vardy again if he doesn't get too much of an increase. Maybe Richarlison at a 7.5 ish range

            1. Hedge
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              *Firmino

              1. Amey
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                I wish he was somewhat more selfish. Even mane level would have done. Salah level would have made him a ln essential 🙂

                1. Hedge
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Although even if he was, I still think he'd struggle to displace defenders and Salah/Mane as options simply because he's a forward with one less point per goal

            2. circusmonkey
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Will be lucky to get Rich at 7.5m. I heard Ancellotti set him a high goals target, maybe he's seen something but anyway it would be a good price. Great articles, thank you.

      3. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I usually do the complete opposite - but this year think I'm in!

        1. Baron Penguin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I’m thinking a makeweight like a 5.5 Che Adams could be the initial second striker behind Jimenez/Martial(if reclassified). Jimenez without Europe lends himself to a general one up top strategy.

          1. Andy_Social
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Adams - yup, he's on my shortlist.

    9. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      The GK vs United yesterday made 13 saves 😀
      Record in a Europa League game !!

      1. Siva Mohan
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        hope CHE are watching..

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          LOL

          1. Siva Mohan
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            last thing we want is linking with Romero..

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              😀

      2. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Some good ones too. I immediately thought of Sheff United; maybe Chelsea should be looking closer.

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          He might have earned himself a transfer

    10. Bonus magnet
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      In the next few weeks, if more evidence of people posting racist messages in their private groups about football players is submitted to FPL will tables have to be recalculated again??

      or does this only apply to winners?

      no room for racism!

      1. FPL Pillars
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        The purge is ongoing, all 7.6mil accounts shall be examined!

        1. have you seen cyan
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          lol, NSA being called in

      2. FPL Pillars
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        But seriously as he finished first they just made an example out of him, doubt much else will happen further down.

        1. sully29
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Yep. If nothing else, they don't hand out prizes to people further down.

      3. Pipermaru
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        It reminds my ML at work when the leader was removed from the league because nobody knows who he was and it supposed to be "employees only". However couple of guys who were sacked or left in the previous years survived the wrath of admin only because they weren't first in the table.

    11. Siva Mohan
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      At least I didn't see racism or hate on this platform so far. Thank you.

      The amount of hate and racism you see on FB official team pages is pretty bad.

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I love this place and one another for same reason. There are some idiots here but that number is very very low.

      2. sully29
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I note a lot of racists are slowly being kicked off twitter and onto Parler. I can only imagine what sort of cesspit that is.

        1. BrutalLogiC
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          good grief, first I heard about Parler, what a truly horrible place!

      3. Goonsquad245
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Nah, just people excusing and defending it instead!

    12. MartialMatas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Looking to renew my membership on the site.
      Is the early membership discount thing still on? where do I go to get it?

      1. el polako
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        What discount ?
        Prices went up.

    13. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Are you allowed to play fpl if you've got a criminal conviction?

      Maybe they should ask for a CRB/DBS check.

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I speed in my car quite a lot and I'm still allowed to play

      2. jimski
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah you could ask questions such as these...

        Or you could just applaud FPL/EPL on an excellent decision that shows racist behaviour has consequences.

        1. 1966 was a great year for E…
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I don't disagree with the decision, but they should make the T&Cs clearer.

          It's a fair question, anyway, what are the rules around your behaviour outside FPL. I didn't know there were any.

          1. jimski
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Don't be a racist is a general rule for life, not just FPL. And the more places you get pulled up for racist behaviour the better.

            tbh I'm a little suspicious of anyone who's reaction isn't all out support for this decision.

            1. jimski
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              *whose

            2. 1966 was a great year for E…
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Right, but another general rule for life is don't commit crimes.

              So is a convicted criminal allowed to play fpl?

              1. jimski
                • 13 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Don't know, don't care. Except to say they got it right this time.

            3. Pipermaru
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              If he wins EuroMillion tomorrow should they refuse to hand him the prize? Genuine question...

          2. Nightcrawler
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Agreed. I spent a couple of months in jail a few years ago. If i hypothetically win fpl and someone reports this to them and i end up losing out on the prizes id be devestated. Wouldnt have bothered playing if it was in the T&Cs

      3. bamberman
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        It's the official Premier League fantasy game. If the FPL took no action and the person who sent them the evidence then went to the press and said "look I sent the Premier League evidence that the fantast footy winner made a racist comment about a Premier League footballer" and they just ignored it what do you think would happen? Exactly a whole ton of sh@t would be unleashed on the Premier League, they had no option than to take action.

        1. Pipermaru
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          So was the action taken because it was racism or because the guy won FPL? If I report a player from 7.2m OR will reaction be the same?

          1. bamberman
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            I don't know what they will do in the very unlikely scenario you have outlined. I'm just pointing out why they felt they had no option other than to throw the winner out.

    14. have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Do you think fanteam could strike him as a winner as well? They'll probably review it, but depends their terms and conditions I guess, doubt they have a caveat for that.

      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        They should take action yes but maybe they have not been notified

        1. have you seen cyan
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          They must know, whoever sent the evidence to FPL woulda sent it to them as well. They'd probably want to deny him 50k more then the FPL win, you'd expect.

          Its not like its someone 2nd or 3rd in FPL wanting to benefit directly from it, its someone he thought was a friend and has a grudge.

          1. Botman and Robben
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Hasn't the 50k already been paid?

      2. FPL Pillars
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yes but he’s probably shipped the dollar off to the Bahamas by now

        1. have you seen cyan
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          doubt he even has it yet

          1. FPL Pillars
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            IDK he looked happy, I think he’s got it

            1. have you seen cyan
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              probably but they can still claim it back if he did breach T&C's, for sure.

              Like if your employer over-pays you, its essentially theft on your behalf if you spend it and dont report it.

              1. Siva Mohan
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                claim it and later go to which court? don't think they will ever get it back

                1. have you seen cyan
                  • 4 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Easily get it back in the UK, unless he ran off to Bulgaria. Its only 50k mind you, probably not worth running away for

                  1. Siva Mohan
                    • 11 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    didn't know he lives in the UK

      3. Jambot
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        They are probably subject to all kinds of gambling regulations that fpl aren’t if it’s pay to play and winnings like that

    15. FPL Pillars
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Routing for Wolves tonight!!!

      Love a PL Semi

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yes, would love for Wolves to take the Europa!

      2. Hedge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Anyone from down under may think you're hoping Wolves get thrashed. Routing means something different there

    16. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Remember this years back from Evra? There is racism in all shapes, colours and forms IMO.

      https://football-talk.co.uk/54813/video-patrice-evra-caught-on-tape-using-n-word-in-foul-mouthed-chelsea-rant/

      Can't access the video of this foul mouthed racist.

    17. el polako
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Was John Terry ever stripped of a title ?

      1. Siva Mohan
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        CHE finished 6th in 2011/2012

        1. Nightcrawler
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Won ucl

          1. Siva Mohan
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            UEFA rules may apply only to their games..

      2. jimski
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        He got a four match ban and a fine. Should have been a lot more.

        1. el polako
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          So its ok-ish if you are an elite football player - you get away with it.
          If you are some Bulgarian no name you're stuffed.

          Justice eh...

          1. jimski
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Well perhaps the football authorities are finally learning how to the right thing. Got to applaud an improvement, right?

    18. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I wonder at what stage in the future we'll be censored for our thoughts, not just words? Society is getting a bit distopian in a hurry imo.

      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        If you have racist thoughts it should have consequences tbh... Freedom of thought doesnt mean freedom of consequences

        1. Je suis le chat
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          This opinion genuinely frightens me, I completely disagree.

          1. Brosstan
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            It was intended as satire

      2. jimski
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        This is the reaction to the fact that a racist faced consequences for their words? Blimey.

        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Insane isn't it, always find a way to make themselves the victim

        2. Goonsquad245
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Christ alive.

          Very apt username too.

      3. Chandler Bing
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Just logged in. What just happened? Why has the winner been changed?

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          He wrote a bad word in a private message to some mates many months ago and someone shopped him to FPL.

          1. Goonsquad245
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Think what you meant to say is:

            *He’s a demonstrable racist and the PL don’t want to be associated with that sort of scum

        2. Siva Mohan
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          found racist.. period.

        3. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Go check the FPL twitter page. No explanation given. Just breach of rules 😀

          I think it is best for EVERY FPL manager to keep their private chat clean next season...

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Don't be racist and I think you'll survive

            • Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Fortunately for me, my government monitors my social media so I'm always squeaky clean.

            • Pipermaru
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Did you just assume anybody else doing that in private or even in thoughts? Outrageous...

          2. bitm2007
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            It appears that this is what he said.

            https://twitter.com/FPLRatchet/status/1293210077705502722

            1. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              oof, not good!

        4. Siva Mohan
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          BREAKING: Chelsea have submitted a £50m bid to West Ham for England midfielder Declan Rice. (Source: Sky Sports)

          1. SADIO SANÉ
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            the next Lampard!

          2. @persecuted_by_mods
              3 years, 7 months ago

              A whole backline and keeper away from becoming title challengers yet

            • Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              It'll be rebuffed. They need to throw in a couple of players such as Barkley and Alonso. Rumour a couple of days ago was they were considering that.

              1. Siva Mohan
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Barkley + cash + Tomori loan looks likely

            • Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              WTF is wrong with Chelsea. Unless they are planning to play him in defence tgis makes no sense at all !!

              How many freaking CM do they need 😀

              1. Andy_Social
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Frank actually does want to play him at CB, AND he wants to offload Jorginho and Kante!

                1. Amey
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Did i read Kante 😆

                  Ed Woodward .…... You've one job now. Just get him IN !

                  1. Siva Mohan
                    • 11 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    a rumor stating he is 29, frequent injuries blah blah.. make hay when the sun shines etc etc

                    1. Amey
                      • 5 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Once he's fit, he's best in the world !
                      Maybe a matic like signing. 3/4 years. But would take him in a heartbeat

                      1. Siva Mohan
                        • 11 Years
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        Matic turned good for Man Utd this year ..

                        don't think Kante will be sold unless Madrid comes with 90M offer..

                        1. Amey
                          • 5 Years
                          3 years, 7 months ago

                          Hmm
                          That's what I feel too sadly

                2. pingissimus
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  A new formation to replace 4-4-2

                  3 and a half
                  I and a half
                  5

              2. pingissimus
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                See below

                But they would at least be solving West Ham's glut there - thoughtful of them.

                1. Amey
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  LOL

            • pingissimus
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              So he's a midfielder - Chelsea are definitely short there.

          3. @persecuted_by_mods
              3 years, 7 months ago

              All these "where does this end?!" posts are so annoying.

              You do realise it could literally be done the other way- "if they don't delete this guy's team what next? He says racist comments live on his channel? He attacks someone? Where does it end?!!!11"

              1. jimski
                • 13 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                "Where does this end?" = apologist for racism. I can't really see any other interpretation tbh.

                1. @persecuted_by_mods
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Exactly, and it's always an outlandish strawman example in their head. Literally creating scenarios and getting upset about it

                    1 man deleted for making racist comments after it was submitted to fpl, it's hardly fpl becoming Judge Dredd

                2. Amey
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Can't keep everyone happy ..

                3. Brosstan
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Yes and it would be perfectly valid to discuss those questions if they didnt ban him. What's your point exactly, why is it bad to discuss where the line is drawn?

                  What creates more discussion on a forum?

                  1. "Its great that FPL banned the racist"

                  2. "Now that its established that racism is reason for FPL disqualification, where will/should the FPL draw the line with regards to criminal behavior and/or controversial freedom of speech topics that could or could not be deemed 'hateful speech' "

                  1. @persecuted_by_mods
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      It's about context, and it's clear where those questions are being asked not in good faith but to downplay racism and make it seem not a big deal

                      1. jimski
                        • 13 Years
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        Yes, and people never start such "discussions" by giving their own views on where the line should be drawn, but instead leave it as a set of questions. A bit suspect.

                        1. Brosstan
                          • 9 Years
                          3 years, 7 months ago

                          Probably because its a wasp's nest to even get into the discussion now that a precedent has been set that hateful statements can lead to a ban.

                          If I hypothetically said "I think the line should definitely be drawn before racism and homophobia, but it should be allowed to make critical remarks about the transsexual movement" I would be in the firing line in the future if FPL decided that trans people should have 100% support and anything else is hateful rhetoric.

                          1. Nimby
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 5 Years
                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            Exactly. I think people kind of will racism into existence by trying to find it everywhere. Equally, though, blatant racism is ignored by the usual suspects all the time. I loathe both extremes.

                      2. Pipermaru
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 9 Years
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        Is "downplaying racism and making it seem not a big deal" = racism?

                        1. @persecuted_by_mods
                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            Depends on the context, in this case I wouldn't call the people posting like this racists but I would have strong suspicions about their views

                          • Nimby
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 5 Years
                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            The term 'downplaying racism' is the thing. If you're downplaying what can be widely and reasonably considered to be obvious racism, that's bad, and possibly racist. If it's less obvious, there mustn't be severe admonishment for the person "downplaying" what they see as something that's not necessarily racist. We should avoid succumbing to groupthink.

                  2. ClassiX
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 5 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Very interesting that FPL didn't make a point of explaining the reason they did it was due to racist comments. Given all the effort put into showing support for BLM you would have thought they would have used the opportunity to make their reasons clear. There is are many legal and moral issues wrapped up in this situation, and I imaging the FPL lawyers have spent considerable time formulating a legal basis for the action they've taken (which is probably a contributing factor to the amount of time its taken them to announce this).

                    They will now be bound, I imagine, to make clear what constitutes unacceptable private comments. Is it as simple a white/black racism, or does it extend to insulting remarks about other teams, or Brits slagging off Scots (or vice versa)? What about other forms of potentially offensive comments?

                  3. HollywoodXI
                    • 9 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Blimey. Just finished work and seen the news about the FPL winner. Sorry if this has been asked already but what happened??

                    1. Amey
                      • 5 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      He made racists comments on Raz. Stripped off his title.

                    2. @persecuted_by_mods
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        He made racist comments in a private chat, they were submitted to fpl by one of the participants in the chat so fpl deleted his team as it was in breach of their rules- they didn't explain what rule exactly covers this which has people worried about a distopian future where fpl possibly hoards all toilet paper in the world

                        1. ClassiX
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 5 Years
                          3 years, 7 months ago

                          Item 2 of the FPL T's&C's is their trump card:
                          2. For the avoidance of doubt, all decisions in respect of the Game (including conditions of application or Registration, team or league names, deadlines within the Game, winners of Prizes or the Game Rules (as defined below)), shall be at the Premier League's absolute discretion. All such decisions will be final and no correspondence will be entered into.

                          1. have you seen cyan
                            • 4 Years
                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            nice, didnt even read and posted that conclusion earlier. FPL is part of the PL, you defacto accept the PL terms by accepting the FPLs.

                          2. @persecuted_by_mods
                              3 years, 7 months ago

                              So it is covered after all

                          3. Nightcrawler
                            • 4 Years
                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            I think its a reasonable discussiom that would be possible if people like u stop dismissing others as supporting the racist person in question. I have no sympathy for the person banned but as somone with questionable past (2 months in jail) i dont know if id be eligible for a monthly weekly or overall prize(lile thats ever going to happen lol). If fpl make it clear i wouldnt bother

                          4. Jambot
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 13 Years
                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            At least when we all get vaccinated Bill Gates will know when people have two teams though, so that’s good

                        2. have you seen cyan
                          • 4 Years
                          3 years, 7 months ago

                          - Rank 1 in the world gets "deleted from the game", no one knows why. Aleks says he will rveal in a vidoe when eht gets home from work
                          - Rank 2 in the world moves to number 1 spot and gets an email from FPL confirming it
                          - FPL release a statement confirming former number 1 removed for rbeach of T&C's
                          - Bulgarian media begins to speculate that the former numebr 1 made a racist comment about Sterling
                          - Former number 1 releases a video on why he was deleted
                          - Fromer number 1 receives flaks so starts psoting on twitter

                          1. have you seen cyan
                            • 4 Years
                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            feck typos, you get the gist. He was racist

                            1. Botman and Robben
                              • 7 Years
                              3 years, 7 months ago

                              Was?

                              1. Pipermaru
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 9 Years
                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                He was last season, he's free to go for next season so he's not racist anymore.

                      • -GK22-
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        Can finally select Leeds as favourite club in the app! Bout time

                        1. FPL Pillars
                          • 7 Years
                          3 years, 7 months ago

                          Only for a of season 😉

                          I hope they stay really, at least three clubs I can think of which would be better to go down. At the end of the day, the table won’t lie 🙂 ... unless goalline technology goes wrong again...

                      • have you seen cyan
                        • 4 Years
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        we will get a price tomorrow for sure to try blow this over

                      • FOO FIGHTER
                        • 4 Years
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        I find it quite alarming that nothing has been said about the link I posted where Evra was being racist towards Hasselbaink and other Chelsea players in a video which was probably seen by every football fan, The FA, UEFA, FIFA and the world.

                        So my question is this.

                        Is there not racism in all walks of live irrespective of your race?

                        Nothing happenned to Evra about that video.

                        1. FOO FIGHTER
                          • 4 Years
                          3 years, 7 months ago

                          *life*

                        2. @persecuted_by_mods
                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            Whataboutism

                          • Nimby
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 5 Years
                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            That's reverse racism so it didn't count 😉

                            1. FOO FIGHTER
                              • 4 Years
                              3 years, 7 months ago

                              Double standards 😉

                          • pingissimus
                            • 5 Years
                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            Times move on - thankfully. It's been quite a year.

                            Yeah racism is everywhere no question. Good comment somewhere above about needing to be proactively anti-racist and not just not racist.

                            1. FOO FIGHTER
                              • 4 Years
                              3 years, 7 months ago

                              These american rappers with every 2nd word in their song's consisting of the N word.

                              That needs to stop!

                              1. @persecuted_by_mods
                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                  Just wow

                            2. sully29
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 9 Years
                              3 years, 7 months ago

                              If you're seriously asking why people aren't reacting as vehemently towards a black man saying the N-word as they have towards a white guy doing so, I might point you in the direction of a few hundred years of social and historical context.

                              Unless this is a joke that went over my head, in which case well done.

                              1. FOO FIGHTER
                                • 4 Years
                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                And if it was a video of you instead?

                                You would be wripped to shreds.

                                1. sully29
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 9 Years
                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                  Obviously. And rightly so.

                                  1. FOO FIGHTER
                                    • 4 Years
                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                    Well that settles it.

                          • Siva Mohan
                            • 11 Years
                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            His girl friend finished 3rd in Bulgaria.. I believe it's not his second team 🙂

                            1. Andy_Social
                              • 11 Years
                              3 years, 7 months ago

                              Ha, she's up to second now!

                              1. pingissimus
                                • 5 Years
                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                Connections being made here

                          • Andy_Social
                            • 11 Years
                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            I'm about to lob in a grenade - are you ready?

                            1. FPL Pillars
                              • 7 Years
                              3 years, 7 months ago

                              A word grenade?

                              1. Andy_Social
                                • 11 Years
                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                Thought grenade.

                                1. FPL Pillars
                                  • 7 Years
                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                  😮 HOW DARE YOU THINK THAT

                            2. Amey
                              • 5 Years
                              3 years, 7 months ago

                              Please say a good player to United

                              1. Andy_Social
                                • 11 Years
                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                On this flippin' topic we're all obsessing about.

                                1. Amey
                                  • 5 Years
                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                  😕
                                  Fine. Interest levels have gone down suddenly*

                            3. pingissimus
                              • 5 Years
                              3 years, 7 months ago

                              Is it more explosive than my super secret differential?

                              1. have you seen cyan
                                • 4 Years
                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                Schlupp is not that good 😀

                                1. Andy_Social
                                  • 11 Years
                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                  Steady on - I am human!

                              2. Andy_Social
                                • 11 Years
                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                I hope to proper upset people, yeh.

                            4. pingissimus
                              • 5 Years
                              3 years, 7 months ago

                              Dilva to Palace. I just knew it was going to happen. Match made in heaven. We'e finally found our Lombardo replacement.

                              1. Andy_Social
                                • 11 Years
                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                It's over the page, if you're curious.