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Joshua Bull crowned FPL champion for 2019/20

Joshua Bull has been crowned the 2019/20 Fantasy Premier League champion, with former world number one Aleksandar Antonov stripped of his title.

Almost a year to the day since Gameweek 1 got underway and a fortnight after the season had ended, there was one final plot twist to a chaotic campaign on Tuesday afternoon.

FPL issued a brief statement to say that, after end-of-season checks, “the team formerly occupying the no. 1 position has been removed from FPL due to a breach of our terms”.

The article in which the announcement was made didn’t elaborate on what those breaches were but the erstwhile winner was notified of the decision via email, with his team removed from FPL.

Quite honestly, we don’t know the exact reasons either, so we won’t be adding to the speculation elsewhere.

Joshua moved up to first place as a result of these latest developments, with Chris McGowan – aka site user Queens of the South Age – promoted to runner-up.

Chris was also elevated to winner of our Fantasy Football Scout mini-league as a consequence.

Joshua, who had never previously finished inside the top one million, played his Wildcard in Gameweek 38+, having used his Free Hit chip a week earlier.

He had first entered the top 1,000 in Gameweek 17 and had reached the top ten shortly before lockdown, rising to seventh in Gameweek 29.

Hitting top spot in Gameweek 32+, he had dropped down to second heading into the final Gameweek and looked to have finished there before today’s statement was issued.

Nick Pope, Trent Alexander-Arnold and Kevin De Bruyne never left his squad all season, while Mohamed Salah was only sold for one week.

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  1. 1zverGGadeM
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    As a Bulgarian, I'm really ashamed from Antonov, believe me 🙁
    Now we are the biggest racists in the world, just because one person left his nerves on social networks..

    Congratulations to Joshua Bull!

    1. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      What happened?he is Bulgarian? I wasn't sure,I though he was Russian

      1. 1zverGGadeM
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Russians are a bad version of Bulgarians. They stole the alphabet from us(cyrilic), they stole Orthodoxy and more and more and more...
        We are just cursed politicaly from the day, we won our Independancy, partly thanks to the Russian-Turk War back in 1877-78... That's it. Accept it.

        Bulgarians are everything but a racists. If you visit our country and speak free with the local peaople, then you'll understand for what I'm talking about.. I'm so sad right now 🙁

        1. The Train Driver
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Says Bulgarians are not racist, also says ALL Russians are bad versions of Bulgarians... Hmm...

          1. 1zverGGadeM
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Do you know what is racism, mate?

            1. The Train Driver
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Maybe not strictly racism that because slavic people aren't just Russians. However, calling all Russians the same is not far from that.

              1. The Train Driver
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Also, you are doing the same against Russians that you are claiming Brits do against Bulgarians...

                1. 1zverGGadeM
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Maybe, you are right, but the main facts are still facts 🙂

                  1. The Train Driver
                    • 8 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    What facts?

                    1. 1zverGGadeM
                      • 6 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Don't want to talk about it on here. It's a fantasy football site - not a History Forum 😉

        2. FPL Daniel
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          The comment about the cyrillic made me chuckle little bit

          1. 1zverGGadeM
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Maybe you need to review some History books, Daniel. The current "mainstream" History of the World is so wrongly manipulated, but that's another topic and I don't wan't to explain it here 🙂

            1. FPL Daniel
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Wikipedia is not a scientific source mate. But I agree with you it's a large topic and shouldn't be discussed here

              1. 1zverGGadeM
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Just start searching with these guys 🙂 св. св. Кирил и Методий

              2. 1zverGGadeM
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Wikipedia is just example link, not main source.

        3. FFSbet.com
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Dude dont spread politics here,you are coming worse than winner.

          A have been to Bulgaria 15years ago and i have been called names on beach bar for my country origin.

          Does that make all bulgarian racist? NO

          I just accept it as good people and bad people

          1. 1zverGGadeM
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            That's something you can face whatever you go on this planet, just with little exceptions maybe, but yeah... I see your point 🙂 What's happened with the Stoichkov's grav?

            1. FFSbet.com
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Removed after racist comment...

              Never had Stoichkov grav

              1. 1zverGGadeM
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                My mistake, sorry. He was with Stoichkov nickname on here too.. His grav was a picture of Hristo Stoichkov showing his middle finger to the ref 😀 Funny stuff, whatever.. Sorry my bad english 🙁

    2. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      If you are Bulgarian, Can you please confirm if the word he used is pretty common there and is somehow not an insult?

    3. Nimby
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Also because Bulgarian football fans racially abused a lot of black players in recent times. It's not just one guy here!

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        What did he said? Any link? Or what is the exact word in Bulgarian?

        1. Nimby
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          It was in Bulgarian.

          1. Andy_Social
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            I posted the blog report Google Translate version. It's around if you dig a bit. Other posts have cited the obscenity. I'll not repeat that.

    4. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      No sane minded person thinks Bulgaria just equals racists now.

      He doesn’t represent you or Bulgaria, just like the racists of Britain, Ireland, the US, India, Australia etc don’t represent the decent people on here.

      1. 1zverGGadeM
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Hope you are right 🙂

      2. OverTinker
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        its 2020 - people have a habit of wrongly linking one thing with another.

      3. Long ago I drew a walrus
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        You say that, but it's way too idealistic. In the real world people make links all the time - often subconsciously, often because it's all they've got to go off. The link between Bulgaria and racism didn't start today, it was a thing even before the England match because I remember BBC reporting on it. And that's just from my limited knowledge.

        1. 1zverGGadeM
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          True

        2. Rainer
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Agree the link was there before with the England game.

          The link was to racists in Bulgaria though not the racist Bulgaria.

          Such a link could be associated to many countries.

          1. 1zverGGadeM
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            There was a group of 15-20 people send therefor money to make "monkey noises" just to interrupt the game and produce another political scandal... It's a Balkan things - nothing special against England players or fans 🙂

          2. Long ago I drew a walrus
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            That's the thing - such a link IS associated to many countries. It's quite sad but we will probably never be able to cut out people jumping to conclusions.

        3. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Too true

          It doesn't take much for a stereotype to take root and the little knowledge from mass media is a very dangerous thing. In some ways complete ignorance would be safer. I haven't lived in Bulgaria - just a country adjacent 🙂 - and they too suffer from a very easy stereotype built on a few cases.

    5. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      You're not !
      No need to be ashamed about.

      Chill 🙂

    6. Woy_is_back
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Why would you be ashamed? You did not say it. You are only responsible for your own words and actions.

      1. 1zverGGadeM
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I'm just proud to be a Bulgarian, and such xenophobic idiots are braindead for me 🙂
        Just don't wanna talk anymore. It's a big shame here in Bulgaria and there is more... The guy who alerted game's admins is another Bulgarian, who was just felt envy to Antonov's succes and reported him.

        there is an very old anecdote for the Hell's room for Bulgarians, that is not guarded by the Lucifer's guards, just because Bulgarians on there can't let any of them to leave it.. Search on the internet if you want

  2. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    What happened? What nationality was the previous champion? Is conspiracy or legit?

    Are we all getting green arrow now?

    1. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      We are getting green arrow. He is Bulgarian. No conspiracy. He got banned because he used a racial slur in a private chat.

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks. Cheers mate

  3. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Hahaha, you can get the sack from your behaviour on social media so why not be stripped from a public award - basically if you want to hate, hate only yourself! Good things come to good people!

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Some people can't see past him winning with skill, as if that means the fpl can parade around and celebrate a guy who made racist comments. Very naive people

      • FPL Pillars
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Good things come to good people is a bit of a cop out. If you come across evil even if you’re a good person it doesn’t make you immune, it would actually make you more vulnerable. The world ain’t all sunshine and roses.

    2. The Train Driver
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      This Antonov thing got me thinking, could a company fire you for posting something racist on fb or in a private chat on your free time? I know a couple of co-worker that would be in big trouble then...

      1. @persecuted_by_mods
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Of course they can dude

        • Rainer
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Absolutely.

          Whether the company care enough for various reasons is another issue.

        • umerlfc
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          They can, but again, I would think of a very strict warning or a really heavy fine deducted from your next paycheck, etc.

        • Nimby
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          They could. Do you hate these guys? I've wanted to get someone fired for being a Tommy Robinson supporter but was advised against it because he is the son of one of the managers. Mental world.

          1. Ozzy smith
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            What made you think you could get someone fired for being a ‘supporter’ (whatever that means) of a political activist lol.

            Being intolerant of the intolerant is just another form of intolerance and bigotry.

            1. @persecuted_by_mods
                3 years, 7 months ago

                No, being intolerant of intolerance is necessary. I won't feel sorry for the instigators and original intolerance

                1. Nightcrawler
                  • 4 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Agree

                2. Ozzy smith
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  All this intolerance of intolerance is doing a fine job in stopping intolerance isn’t it.

                  1. @persecuted_by_mods
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      I'm sure letting the intolerant people run completely free and unchallenged would be working out a lot better

                      Person A slaps person B for no reason, person B slaps back

                      Pup02 "you guys are as bad as each other!" "Hey person B don't hit back that makes you the same"

                      1. Ozzy smith
                        • 9 Years
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        You’re letting them run completely free and unchallenged that’s my point. You can’t have constructive dialogue with people of differing opinion if you just shut them down and refuse to challenge them. What has removing Robinson from main stream platforms done? He still has his audience, his supporters and his views.

                        Get them on national television and embarrass them. Prove them wrong. Unfortunately you’re just a coward, too afraid of offence.

                        I’m not going to entertain your false analogy.

                        1. @persecuted_by_mods
                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            This is absolute total nonsense, and has been proved completely wrong over the past 10 years

                            Putting these people front and centre doesn't lessen their popularity at all, it allows them to play the role of rebel taking potshots at the establishment and build up lots of popularity and credibility easily. It's beyond me how you haven't seen that, doesn't say much for your intelligence

                            1. Ozzy smith
                              • 9 Years
                              3 years, 7 months ago

                              Yep proved completely wrong over the last decade....

                              The west has seen Conservatism & populism gain support, whilst liberalism is profoundly rejected at the ballot box. Brexit, Trump, Boris.

                              Border control being the defining issue.

                              And you question my intelligence lol.

                              1. @persecuted_by_mods
                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                  Yes exactly, and that populism and move towards the right was exactly because they weren't sufficiently challenged. Instead they were given platforms and legitimised because "they'll show themselves to be fools" - we have evidence this literally does nothing but make them more popular

                                  I do question your intelligence here

                                  1. Ozzy smith
                                    • 9 Years
                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                    So you believe it he overwhelmingly majority of people are stupid, unable to listen to read.

                                    Or you believe the overwhelming majority align themselves with right wing populist views?

                                  2. @persecuted_by_mods
                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                      Shifting the goalposts now because you're not replying to my point which is we have evidence of trying your way, and we have the results too. So why are you still suggesting that method?

                                    • Ozzy smith
                                      • 9 Years
                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                      Im not shifting the goalposts at all. I’m accepting your ‘evidence’. I’m just asking if you know why people like what they see?

                                    • @persecuted_by_mods
                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                        Well you didn't accept it if you completely ignore it, that's how that works. And you accept something by putting it in quotes? Sounds like you don't accept it? Care to explain why? I gave clear examples, Farage, Tommy, Katie all given platforms all way more popular having heard their views than if we hadn't.

                                        I can't speak for other people I'm afraid, why do you think they like it?

                                      • Ozzy smith
                                        • 9 Years
                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                        The irony!

                                        Do you even understand what you’re saying right here. You want to forcibly oppress opposition?

                                        You’re effectively saying “We need to take away platforms from those I don’t agree with, because they gain popularity and I don’t like it.”

                                        You’re the fascist.

                                      • @persecuted_by_mods
                                          3 years, 7 months ago

                                          You know you've lost a debate when you resort to "so you're saying" and start putting words in people's mouths

                                          Still no response to my example refuting your original point that giving them a platform doesn't seem to make them any less popular. Hmmm it's almost like you don't want to debate but just want to muddy waters and go around in circles

                                          Hahahaha what an utter clown you are

                                        • Ozzy smith
                                          • 9 Years
                                          3 years, 7 months ago

                                          I clearly asked you why they become more popular when given a platform.

                                          You couldn’t answer that question (maybe the truth is hard for you to say).

                                          Your solution is to take away their platform, so they can’t gain popularity among the population. (Oppression of opposition).

                                          A fascist trait if I’ve ever seen one. Clown.

                                        • @persecuted_by_mods
                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                            Lmao you literally answer 0 questions and shift the goalposts every time I give an answer and ask you a question back, who are you exactly? You mug

                                            Is that my solution? Where did I say that?? Sounds like you're putting words in my mouth

                                            Stupid clown, you're not smart, sit down and don't get involved. The facists are the guys opposing the facists not the facist people calling for sinking of immigrant boats to drown them, and sending people back to where they came from etc etc

                                          • Ozzy smith
                                            • 9 Years
                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                            To quote your solution. - “I gave clear examples, Farage, Tommy, Katie all given platforms all way more popular having heard their views than if we hadn't.”

                                            Oh dear. You’ve lost the plot now you’ve realised you’re a fascist too. Classic.

                                            I accepted your response to my initial point because I knew you were going down that route. At least you’re outed now, be honest with yourself.

                                            You’re just a good fascist eh.

                                          • @persecuted_by_mods
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              That's an example of them having a platform and it making them popular and comparing it to if they didn't get that specific platform. You think a comparison is advocation? Go to sleep please, and keep studying for your GCSEs little boy. Don't step to debate when you can't even read and infer

                                              Fyi you've also assumed my intolerance of them is machine gunning them or something whereas my solution is to give them a platform with real challenge/intolerance like fact checking, the key problem is they get a platform and run free with no challenge

                                            • Ozzy smith
                                              • 9 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              Back track city here! It’s clear as day what you insinuated above.

                                              See, this is what happens when you thrown around terminology such as ‘fascist’ when you don’t even understand the definition yourself - you make fascist statements yourself whilst calling others fascist. (Which makes you look like an idiot).

                                              Maybe you should look at re-taking your GCSE’s and leave me to study mine you tool.

                                            • @persecuted_by_mods
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                No, it's clear you don't understand how to debate.

                                                Me: We would have no sunlight if the sun wasn't here

                                                You: SO YOU DONT WANT THE SUN HERE THEN?!!!

                                                I made no such comments you've literally made nonsense up and come across as very dense you utter clown. You have 0 ability to debate or answer questions all you do is spam questions and sidestep everything yourself, like a coward.

                                                I've even given you my solution and you've still ignored it, deary me.

                                                As I suspected straight away, you have no intention of debating fairly, just another far right apologist muddying the waters and defending the indefensible

                                              • Ozzy smith
                                                • 9 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Stop crying because you’ve been outed as a fascist, whilst in the process of calling other people fascist.

                                                I know it must be embarrassing, but you know what they say. We all learn something new every day.

                                                Today, no doubt, you’ve googled the definition of fascism, and realised you unknowingly align with one of the core principles of the fascist ideology.

                                                Goodnight, fascist.

                                              • @persecuted_by_mods
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Yeah outed by a clown that has no clue what he's talking about

                                                  Yeah goodnight idiot

                                          • Nimby
                                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                            • 5 Years
                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                            Entertaining fascists moves the overton window to frame a subject that shouldn't even be up for discussion in this day and age. As a world we should be reaping the rewards of an egalitarian system that benefits the majority. Talking about whether banning Muslims and promoting other fascist ideas are acceptable should be off the agenda.

                                            1. Ozzy smith
                                              • 9 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              You sound rather intolerant and bigoted to be honest. Just as bad as those you reject.

                                              1. Nimby
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 5 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                I gots no problem being 'bigoted' against fascists.

                                                1. Ozzy smith
                                                  • 9 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Fair enough, I mean that’s your own self-perception and moral superiority making it okay. As long as you accept that you’re a bigot too, that’s fine.

                                                2. @persecuted_by_mods
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    This is such a stupid viewpoint honestly, being intolerant of intolerance isn't the same as the original intolerance, why aren't you blaming them for their intolerance? Why blame and pick holes with the people responding

                                                  • Ozzy smith
                                                    • 9 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    Why are your views and morals automatically superior to those that others hold? If you believe they are, why are you scared of challenging them? Too afraid to be offended?

                                                    Dialogue is the way forward, this cancel culture nonsense achieves absolutely nothing.

                                                    Intolerance is intolerance.

                                                  • @persecuted_by_mods
                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                      Ridiculous argument, even debating certain issues legitimises them in the first place, as being worthy of debate. Nobody is scared of challenging them, I'm more scared for the people that have to live with the consequences of fascists

                                                      Nothing to do with "cancel culture" or "sjw" or "woke" or any buzzwords you guys use when you've got nothing to say

                                                    • Greek Freak
                                                      • 8 Years
                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                      Yeah come on - why are you so intolerant of those poor fascists? 😀

                                                    • Ozzy smith
                                                      • 9 Years
                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                      We’ve already established above, that you’re a fascist yourself. Ironic.

                                                    • @persecuted_by_mods
                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                        Yes and how you came to that conclusion was me challenging your assertion that giving the likes of Tommy a platform makes them less popular, your reply was then to put words in my mouth "so we give them no platform, so we can them?!!! Your da facist omggg"

                                        • Nimby
                                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                          • 5 Years
                                          3 years, 7 months ago

                                          Robinson is a fascist. If you support him you're either a fascist or a moron. Either way, words should have been had with him. His role was public-facing and his Facebook account was littered with Tommy pics lauding him as an English hero.

                                          1. Ozzy smith
                                            • 9 Years
                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                            See above ref Robinson.

                                      • The Train Driver
                                        • 8 Years
                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                        I hate their beliefs but I try to be professional with them. I would love for them to change first of all but I know it's probably impossible, at least in the short run.

                                        I don't hate them but I hate that they are my Co workers.

                                    • FPL Daniel
                                      • 14 Years
                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                      Yes they can, since you sign a code of conduct when you get the job

                                  3. umerlfc
                                    • 8 Years
                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                    I don't know if that's the case or not but if FPL clearly has written terms and conditions that it holds the right to strip a team from its title or delete a team in any given case then it's the right decision otherwise no matter how bad the situation was, the guy won the title on Merit

                                    Imo, they could have stripped him for all the rewards that the winner gets, and completely ignore any recognitions in the future

                                    1. OverTinker
                                      • 5 Years
                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                      "Imo, they could have stripped him for all the rewards that the winner gets, and completely ignore any recognitions in the future
                                      "
                                      agreed

                                  4. Wild Rover
                                    • 13 Years
                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                    Hard to say whether it’s motivated by racism, ignorance or stupidity, but I’m genuinely staggered by many of the comments on here today. The Prem League shouts ‘No to racism and kick it out!’ and people supposedly support this, but the minute they kick someone out for racism people are up in arms. Sad to see that people really don’t get it 🙁

                                    1. Goonsquad245
                                      • 7 Years
                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                      It’s pretty regular posters too for the main part. Head in hands here.

                                    2. Amey
                                      • 5 Years
                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                      You're most dangerous when you're wrong, but you think you're right.

                                      "Iron Man said this to Spider-Man when telling about Captain America in Civil war"

                                      It's pretty relevant here 🙂

                                      1. Long ago I drew a walrus
                                        • 13 Years
                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                        Completely irrelevant nitpick - you've got your quotation marks on the wrong line 😀

                                        More seriously, the problem is that Captain America wasn't necessarily wrong and Iron Man wasn't necessarily right. Same with most things in life, people merely stand in different places in the grey area in between.

                                        1. Amey
                                          • 5 Years
                                          3 years, 7 months ago

                                          LOL at my " yes 😀

                                          I agree Right and. Wrong are mostly subjective things.

                                          We just pick sides yes. I picked FPL's side on this one 🙂

                                    3. internal error
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 11 Years
                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                      Very disappointing to see

                                    4. @persecuted_by_mods
                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                        It reminds me of the Matrix quote that I'm paraphrasing here but people violently cling to the system they know because they depend on that very system and they can't even see that they're doing it

                                        One racist person getting his team deleted is suddenly 1984, suddenly we who agree with his team being deleted need to have solutions ready for all manner of hypothetical scenarios

                                      • Rainer
                                        • 7 Years
                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                        Hopefully it’s a mix of the later two with people knowing what it’d take over a year to reach that rank, hopefully...

                                        He deserves everything he’s got.

                                      • Bonus magnet
                                        • 7 Years
                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                        everyone wants to kick racism out

                                        if new evidence comes up that number 289k posted a similar racist comment 3 months ago should we recalculate he tables?

                                        1. @persecuted_by_mods
                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                            Here's another random hypothetical scenario

                                            1. Bonus magnet
                                              • 7 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              i think they should since they have set the precedence.We await the flurry of new evidence sent to FPL by pals

                                              1. @persecuted_by_mods
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  How many people are being regularly racist in front of their pals and at the same time have pals that will report them to fpl? Stop with the stupid hypothetical please

                                                  1. Bonus magnet
                                                    • 7 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    There’s no need to call my hypothetical situation stupid . That’s offensive and derogatory. Same as racist “banter”

                                                    Just debate the point - no need to be emotional for nothing

                                          • Woy_is_back
                                            • 6 Years
                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                            Cause he won by skill and deserves the win?

                                            1. Goonsquad245
                                              • 7 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              This is such a bad take I’m actually not sure if you’re serious

                                              1. Woy_is_back
                                                • 6 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Why cause he's better at fpl than you even though being a racist pr!ck?
                                                Fpl should put it in their rules that you can get disqualified for these kind of things from now on.

                                                1. Goonsquad245
                                                  • 7 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Yep let’s give him a free pass because he’s skilled at something.

                                                  Just like we should give highly skilled workers who are demonstrable racists free passes too right?

                                            2. Epic Fail
                                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                              • 13 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              Him having a good season means the Premier League should abandon their Kick It Out message?

                                          • boredjames
                                            • 11 Years
                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                            Not surprising to see you tirelessly virtue signal without access to facts

                                            1. @persecuted_by_mods
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                What facts are missing in this case exactly?

                                                1. boredjames
                                                  • 11 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Have We seen what was said? And I overall context? Apologies if it has. I assume this has decision has been taken without any public knowledge of facts

                                          • FPL Daniel
                                            • 14 Years
                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                            If I was Antonov I would have sued and let the jury decide whether I should be the fpl champion or not. This way he doesn't have a chance to appeal which is human right.

                                            For the record I still don't know what he said

                                            1. Goonsquad245
                                              • 7 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              Of course you would.

                                            2. Wild Rover
                                              • 13 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              For the record you have a history of racism on here

                                              1. FPL Daniel
                                                • 14 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Disagree...

                                                1. Wild Rover
                                                  • 13 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  It’s a fact

                                                  1. FPL Daniel
                                                    • 14 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    No it's not. English is not my native language and you can't understand when you write in one and think in different language. It can be misunderstood. I am publicly apologising if I was sometimes misunderstood because of cultural specifics or difference. Everyone should be valued and not discriminated. Human rights are the ultimate thing. Peace and love for everybody

                                                    1. Wild Rover
                                                      • 13 Years
                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                      People have long memories. You were convicted and banned

                                            3. Nimby
                                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                              • 5 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              You don't know what he said buy defend it anyway. That is so Brexit.

                                              1. FPL Daniel
                                                • 14 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                I don't defend. I don't know the rules. I am fully against racism. We as Macedonians have suffered racism for whole life. We are not allowed to even say that we are macedonians without being abused and bullied. Racism is the worst thing. I am 100% against it, especially seeing in on my and our skin.

                                                I am out, good night everyone.

                                            4. have you seen cyan
                                              • 4 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              serious? They dont even need a reason to ban you

                                              1. FPL Daniel
                                                • 14 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Me? Or Wild Rover?

                                                1. Wild Rover
                                                  • 13 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Lol

                                            5. @persecuted_by_mods
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Hello jury, I signed up to a website and agreed to their terms which say they can basically do whatever they like, now they've deleted my team and I disagree with these rules that I initially agreed to, also I made racist comments. How are my odds looking?

                                              • pingissimus
                                                • 5 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                What makes you think that FPL and Antonov haven't taken legal opinions on this? There's been quite a delay. FPL will have done to a certainty.

                                                Posted earlier pointing out the language that almost certainly means FPL are within their rights here.

                                                1. FPL Daniel
                                                  • 14 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Lads you are talking sence maybe they have discussed the legal options. maybe there is a settlement behind the scenes. We don't know. Time will tell. Congratulations to the new champion

                                              • Amey
                                                • 5 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                You're saying he should sue them even before knowing what he said ?
                                                Just read it. He made a racist remark on one of the PL player. If that is what you wanted to know

                                                1. FPL Daniel
                                                  • 14 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  I will google it

                                              • Rocky FPL
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 6 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Are you saying you don't even know why or what, but here is your opinion anyway?

                                                1. FPL Daniel
                                                  • 14 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  I think you misunderstood me

                                                  1. Rocky FPL
                                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                    • 6 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    Probably, goodnight.

                                              • Epic Fail
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 13 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                You wouldn't have done schit. Pipe down.

                                              • Now I'm Panicking
                                                • 9 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                I'm not convinced you can tie your own shoelaces, let alone mount a legal challenge against a multi-billion pound corporation.

                                                1. Wild Rover
                                                  • 13 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  😀

                                                2. Back on the horse
                                                  • 13 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Juhu!

                                                  (I'm not even sure that's right, is it?)

                                                3. FPL Daniel
                                                  • 14 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  This is classic bullying

                                            6. sully29
                                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                              • 9 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              Starting to think the giant Aleksandar Antonov statue on my front lawn might be an issue.

                                              1. FPL Pillars
                                                • 7 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Calling Antifa to come and lynch you

                                              2. Je suis le chat
                                                • 10 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                He's certainly the most famous former fpl winner in the World.

                                              3. Werkself
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 10 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                🙂

                                            7. Big boy Bowen
                                              • 7 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              Never understood why keepers guess with penalties, nearly everytime I’ve witnessed one saved it’s been where they have waited to dive.
                                              A lot of penalties are near the middle and reckon we’d see like 60% more penalty saves if they did.

                                              1. The Train Driver
                                                • 8 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Because when you dive early you can make those fantastic looking saves 🙂

                                                1. Big boy Bowen
                                                  • 7 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  True haha

                                              2. Now I'm Panicking
                                                • 9 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Yeah, all those hundreds of professional goalies and goalkeeper coaches know nothing.

                                                1. Big boy Bowen
                                                  • 7 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  How often does a penalty get buried right in the corner though?
                                                  If you wait it’s only those sort of penalties that are unsaveable.

                                                  Keepers have guessed for years, doesn’t mean it hasn’t been overlooked or could be done better.

                                                  1. Now I'm Panicking
                                                    • 9 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    You should become a goalkeeper coach - you'd make millions.

                                                    1. Big boy Bowen
                                                      • 7 Years
                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                      Haha

                                              3. Nightcrawler
                                                • 4 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                I think prior knowledge of takers is important in that case

                                                Makes sense to dive early for bruno oenalties as he hmusually licks the same spot and the same side

                                                Keepers diving early on hazard oenalties drove me mad especially in his final season. I mean he literally waits for u to dive then rolls it at 1 mph every single time

                                                1. Amey
                                                  • 5 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Agreed

                                                  A tense Deeney is always going to hit it in the centre with all the power he can 😀

                                                2. Big boy Bowen
                                                  • 7 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Yup

                                              1. Long ago I drew a walrus
                                                • 13 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                He's amazing eh? But I can't help but feel it's a terrible idea to go the whole season with him as first choice.

                                                1. Amey
                                                  • 5 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Agreed
                                                  Hence they are looking for a RW.
                                                  He's a #9 anyways. Hopefully will rightfully displace Tony in 2/3 seasons time

                                                  1. pingissimus
                                                    • 5 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    2/3 seasons?

                                                    2/3 months also quite possible on this trajectory. Kind of doubt it'll take years in any case. We live in the age of the prodigy.

                                                    1. Amey
                                                      • 5 Years
                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                      We do yeah. It'd take one Tony injury & Sancho at RW to get Greenwood as #9

                                                  2. Rocky FPL
                                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                    • 6 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    I think Tony has a higher ceiling than Rashford. I could be wrong though. But on current form atleast if anyone deserves to be dropped it will be Rashford first. Martial is on fire. I am surprised by your comment about Martial getting displayed in 2 seasons tbh.

                                                    1. Amey
                                                      • 5 Years
                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                      Martial is better finisher than Rashford hence he did well than him at #9 IMO.
                                                      Greenwood is even better finisher. With 2)3 seasons football under his belt he can / will displace Tony from #9 role IMHO

                                                      1. Rocky FPL
                                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                        • 6 Years
                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                        Saying Greenwood will displace Martial in 2 years and saying Greenwood will displace Martial from #9 spot are two different things. Because in latter, Martial can just move back to wing, and Rashford could be the one who might actually get displaced from the team if that happens.

                                              2. The Train Driver
                                                • 8 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Those stats are crazy, he has the pedigree to become the best forward in the world and is as lethal with both his feet...

                                                1. Amey
                                                  • 5 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Yeah

                                              3. Je suis le chat
                                                • 10 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Solid stats, coming season will tell all. Remember Rashford burst on the scene then faded.

                                                1. Amey
                                                  • 5 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  I do. This kid is a phenomenal finisher though. Already knows his main job 🙂

                                                2. pingissimus
                                                  • 5 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  That's the worrying precedent. Also is there much to his game aside form finishing?

                                                  One of his oddities is that right now that is all he seems to do. He's throwback almost. How many players can you name who get by on goals alone. He's up a level - or 2 or 3 or 4 - from Defoe but you get my point. Kun was threatened by Jesus initially because Pep worried that he didn't;t offer enough elsewhere.

                                            8. Long ago I drew a walrus
                                              • 13 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              People who believe that Antonov was rightly disqualified and punished for his crime - what are your opinions on the James Gunn sacking a few years ago? Genuinely curious - not trying to argue anything.

                                              1. DeathAngel
                                                • 14 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                You don't want to say anything controversial yourself, but you are inviting others to do so?

                                                1. Long ago I drew a walrus
                                                  • 13 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  I say controversial things all the time. If you really want I can share my opinion on Antonov and/or James Gunn but I doubt you'd be interested and not sure others are either. Believe it or not it was genuinely a question borne out of curiosity and trying to understand people better.

                                                  1. DeathAngel
                                                    • 14 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    In which case I apologise.

                                                    Your post just seemed a bit weak and sneaky in my mind, but I don't know what you are usually like.

                                                    1. Long ago I drew a walrus
                                                      • 13 Years
                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                      No need to apologise, maybe it was, hence no other replies. No big deal though, we move on 🙂

                                                2. Scoring freely
                                                  • 8 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  I'm surprised no one's took a hit out on me yet for all the stuff I say online. 😀

                                              2. Goonsquad245
                                                • 7 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                It’s a good, thought provoking question.

                                                My personal take is what goes around comes around and people need to be accountable for their actions. But I can see the other side to that in the Gunn case. There are shades of grey between the black and white which i think is what you’re trying to get at.

                                                1. Long ago I drew a walrus
                                                  • 13 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  There are of course parallels and differences, I think it was quite obvious in the Gunn case he was making a joke albeit in poor taste whereas with Antonov it doesn't seem like banter is really an appropriate description. It's more the fact that a public personality has been punished for a 'private' action from some time ago which was unrelated to the consequence. There's a line somewhere, trying to find it is all.

                                              3. d1g2w3
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 14 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Yes, rightfully sacked and it's not a value the company wanted to be represented.
                                                James Gunn also apologized and learn't from the incident and did not make excuses.

                                                https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/guardians-galaxy-director-james-gunn-395796

                                                He didn't complain that he was "caught" or "framed" or whatever excuses are thrown out.

                                                End of the day, if you are representing a brand or company and you say or do something that can devalue that, then you rightfully have consequences.

                                                People need to understand, actions and words have consequences. People don't lose their livelihoods when they own what they have done, they come out stronger.

                                                1. Long ago I drew a walrus
                                                  • 13 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  It's been some time so forgive me if I misremember but iirc James Gunn apologised BEFORE his sacking, and not for the first time. The incident was so many years ago that it's entirely plausible to say he had learnt his lesson way before the sacking and not as a consequence of being sacked.

                                                  1. d1g2w3
                                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                    • 14 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    Agree but the key point here is he apologized and regardless of the circumstances, James still didn't play the victim card.

                                            9. FFSbet.com
                                              • 8 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              @ mods

                                              Delete politics chats no need to go there

                                              1. Goonsquad245
                                                • 7 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                And whilst they’re at it maybe they should delete your ridiculous comments that say 99-100% of people are racist in private. Do you count yourself amongst that?

                                                1. FFSbet.com
                                                  • 8 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Not racist but they can delete all they want.

                                            10. Jolly Good
                                              • 8 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              I think the biggest lesson here is to make sure you manage your digital presence... chat with your friends only on platforms where comments are deleted etc

                                              Never know what you say in which state of mind which might come back to bite you.

                                              Racism is bad, but loss of privacy here sucks.

                                              1. goriuanx
                                                • 13 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                It sounds like you're from the Alexsander school of thought.

                                                Public or private, racism is unacceptable. Just because you're in a private group chat, it doesn't mean you refer to people as the N word and try to pass it off as banter.

                                                It's not banter, it's racism.

                                                1. Jolly Good
                                                  • 8 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  I suppose I am. Honestly don’t know what he posted and how racist that is... but I’m pretty sure I must’ve said something to the tune of “check out the xxx body part of that chic” in my close friends WhatsApp group when I was 18 maybe and I’m pretty sure it could be construed as sexist... if not today then by 2025

                                                  Really wouldn’t want to lose my job over it...

                                              2. Goonsquad245
                                                • 7 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Or....just don’t say hateful, racist things full stop?

                                              3. Rocky FPL
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 6 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Biggest lesson here is not to make any form of racial insults, period. Its not okay to be racist with your friends or in your bedroom. Just don't be one. Also be careful of cultural differences.

                                              4. sully29
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 9 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Well the main lesson is if you say blatantly racist things then people will be inclined not to like you, promote you or give you prizes.

                                                But yes, the importance of managing your digital presence is a good secondary lesson for people to take away, if they weren't already aware of it. Even relatively innocuous things like stupid pictures or negative comments about an employer can come back to bite you.

                                              5. Hymie
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 10 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                The lesson here is that if you make certain comments, whether in private or public communications, and the FPL/EPL considers these to be racist (in their opinion), then you can reasonably expect to have your FPL team deleted.

                                            11. ZimZalabim
                                              • 7 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              Wolves getting absolutely dominated here

                                              Sevilla just relentlessly attacking but not really making any clear chances

                                              suso put in a great ball right now but headed over.

                                              1. UnitedFan
                                                • 8 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Reckon Wolves can hold on for the cleanie? I've got the Doherty/Boly double-up.

                                                1. ZimZalabim
                                                  • 7 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Looks tough atm lets see how this change pans out if they can start keeping hold of the ball and try and create something themselves wolves might be able to nick a 1 nil

                                              2. ZimZalabim
                                                • 7 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Moutinho off and Neto on

                                                Changing shape could end up costing wolves

                                            12. circusmonkey
                                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                              • 13 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              Today there is a very narrow idea of racism, focusing only on what individuals say and think. An understanding of a world divided into competing nation states has gone. Respectable racism continues to be rife: that our people are more important than others, the indifference to poverty and bad health in parts of Africa and Asia.
                                              Giving our governments and non-state institutions the moral authority to police individual transgressions is an understandable reflex when we see something we don’t like; it gives the satisfaction of doing something. It doesn’t challenge respectable racism though and it bolsters the authority of our governments that are fine with it.
                                              Also, do you really want such a surveillance society, not just involving the police but non-state actors: your employers, your neighbours, web sites? The guy entered a competition, he isn’t standing for office. He doesn’t represent FPL and his post only reflects badly on himself.
                                              If you want a more complete understanding of racism that goes beyond individual attitudes and actions and has some historical context, l recommend the book ‘The Meaning of Race’ by Kenan Malik.

                                              1. Rocky FPL
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 6 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                "The guy entered a competition, he isn’t standing for office"

                                                You lost me here.

                                              2. Rainer
                                                • 7 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                He would have been representing FPL though as their winner. They don’t want such a person doing so.

                                                Reward him with prizes and hospitality to a Prem game too...

                                              3. Andy_Social
                                                • 11 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Yup. Systemic racism is the issue that needs to be addressed.

                                              4. Long ago I drew a walrus
                                                • 13 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Agree with this. I look at Andy_social's post from a couple of pages ago and the responses to it, and imo it sums up what you're saying here. So many people talking about racism in absolute terms (wanted to say black or white but that phrase seems somehow inappropriate in this context) - but more often than not there is everyday racism that stems from people's upbringing, stereotypes and lack of knowledge. That's what Andy_social was getting at with his post, that people who haven't experienced this kind of racism first hand and merely join in with finger-pointing are missing the nuances that are often far more important in society than someone being called a bad name.

                                                1. Nightcrawler
                                                  • 4 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Very well said but its only a matter of time before u get shot down as racist for "downplaying racism"

                                                  1. Long ago I drew a walrus
                                                    • 13 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    Getting shot down on the internet is really no big deal at the end of the day, but I'd say the majority of posters on here are still reasonable. I'd be more careful on reddit 😀

                                              5. pingissimus
                                                • 5 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                I was following every point until this:

                                                "and his post only reflects badly on himself"

                                                That "only" doesn't work for me and changes your argument. And yes employers and websites in any event should be policing this imo. There's also a certain wilfulness about ignoring the context of racism in football and kick it out etc - pace Wild Rover above.

                                                Off to bed now.

                                            13. Sloths
                                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                              • 4 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              Is wolves game televised?

                                              1. Now I'm Panicking
                                                • 9 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                BT Sport

                                                1. Sloths
                                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                  • 4 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  ty 🙂

                                              2. Andy_Social
                                                • 11 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Yeh. I'm watching it now, in Cambodia. BT Sport 1HD.

                                            14. IvanTheTerrible
                                              • 7 Years
                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                              The mysterious removal. Is it because the real winner admitted that he has won another league and got 50 € for it? In that case the FPL should remove another 2 million teams as they are all involved in cash leagues, mostly based in the middle east with weekly prices from 50 to 100 K $. Just follow the numbers of participating teams. The season will start with around 5 million and by Christmas there will be 7, with the likelihood to finish with 9 million. The FPL need to get grip on that.

                                              1. Rocky FPL
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 6 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Just go one or two pages back. Its not mystery anymore. He said it himself.

                                              2. Epic Fail
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 13 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                He was removed for being a vile cretin.

                                              3. Amey
                                                • 5 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                You're sulking for wrong reason mate

                                              4. diesel001
                                                • 7 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Google is your friend.....

                                              5. Long ago I drew a walrus
                                                • 13 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Come on dude, are you seriously asking this

                                              6. Pinturicchio10
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Clever clogs over here. Unreal.

                                              7. Woy_is_back
                                                • 6 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Joshua Bell fpl champion*

                                                Corrected

                                                1. diesel001
                                                  • 7 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  The asterisk will be forgotten about in 10/15/20 years time. But Joshua will always be known as a FPL Champion.

                                                  As they say in golf, "there are no pictures on the scorecard"

                                              8. The Train Driver
                                                • 8 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Would love to see how Traore would manage in one of the top teams. Would he strive or become just another Shaqiri?

                                              9. Jonah
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 13 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                This Vinagre looks a decent player. As far as I can see, he will definitely play while the first choice is injured.

                                                1. Now I'm Panicking
                                                  • 9 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Hopefully he won't be too cheap otherwise everyone relevant will have him

                                                  1. Long ago I drew a walrus
                                                    • 13 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    He is still undisputedly second choice though? Jonny will eventually be back, likely still a 4.5

                                                    1. Now I'm Panicking
                                                      • 9 Years
                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                      If he is 4.5 everyone relevant will have him. Will be a shame through circumstance.

                                                      1. Long ago I drew a walrus
                                                        • 13 Years
                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                        Perhaps. But a lot of other factors could change things, a 5.0 Saiss for example could be preferable or a 6.0 Doherty, or Wolves could start the season with bad fixtures then run into some bad form, Vinagre himself hasn't exactly had a chance to demonstrate any great consistency. Not going to continue arguing this though because like you say, he'll probably be one of the first names in my squad at 4.5 xD

                                                    2. Brosstan
                                                      • 9 Years
                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                      4.5 would be 90% ownership levels of essential...

                                              10. Greek Freak
                                                • 8 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Just catching up with the Wolves game - I see Jimenez had a penalty saved. I didn't think I'd come across one of those - he had made 26 of 27 in his career before.

                                                Sebastien Haller has now overtaken him as the most successful penalty taker in the Premier League currently.

                                                1. Amey
                                                  • 5 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Facepalm
                                                  You stats nerd !!
                                                  😀

                                                  1. Greek Freak
                                                    • 8 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    😀

                                                2. pingissimus
                                                  • 5 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  My favourite football stat is the Le Tissier record of 46 from 47. Hope no one beats that or that anyone tells me that isn't the record 🙂

                                                  1. Greek Freak
                                                    • 8 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    According to transfermarkt it's 27 of 27.

                                                    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/matt-le-tissier/elfmetertore/spieler/43705

                                                    But someone else also told me he'd missed one before. Was it in a shootout? Transfermarkt doesn't count these as far as I cal tell.

                                                    1. pingissimus
                                                      • 5 Years
                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                      Just checked I was wrong naturally enough 🙂

                                                      Overall record is 47 of 48. I guess a few in cups etc and he will have predated PL by a bit perhaps.

                                                      1. Greek Freak
                                                        • 8 Years
                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                        I wonder why the disparity - I just saw wikipedia says 47 of 48. Transfermarkt does cover cup competitions, just not shootouts - I guess he'd taken an extra 21 kicks in shootouts? Sounds like a lot but plausible.

                                                    2. pingissimus
                                                      • 5 Years
                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                      The one he missed was to Mark Crossley I know that much. He was a specialist. Here he says Le Tis had 54 and says saving one of his was his career highlight.

                                                      https://www.theguardian.com/observer/osm/story/0,,626782,00.html

                                                      Really am off to bed now.

                                                3. ZimZalabim
                                                  • 7 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Haller more successful than Noble or Milner ?

                                                  1. Greek Freak
                                                    • 8 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    Haller 96% (23 of 24)
                                                    Noble 90.5% (38 of 42)
                                                    Milner 86% (30 of 35)

                                                    (My cut-off point was minimum 20 pens taken, otherwise there are people like Stanislas and Brady who have never missed).

                                                4. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
                                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                  • 9 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Nobody comes close to Mark Noble 😎

                                              11. ZimZalabim
                                                • 7 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Sevilla goal

                                                1. Epic Fail
                                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                  • 13 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Stay on topic please.

                                                  1. The Train Driver
                                                    • 8 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    Lol

                                                  2. Piggs Boson
                                                    • 12 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    😀

                                                  3. NIKO.
                                                    • 6 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    😆

                                                  4. Amey
                                                    • 5 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    LOL

                                              12. UnitedFan
                                                • 8 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Devastating for Wolves defence owners.

                                                1. Rainer
                                                  • 7 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  The norm really 🙁

                                              13. Hy liverpool
                                                • 10 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Wolves out of EL..won't miss gw1 then?

                                                1. ClassiX
                                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                  • 5 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  More than 30 days, so shouldn't, IMO.

                                              14. Rainer
                                                • 7 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Good game in store vs United.

                                                1. ZimZalabim
                                                  • 7 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Shaktar being overlooked also

                                                  scoring bags of goals Im going for a Sevilla vs Shakhtar final

                                                  1. Zimo
                                                    • 5 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    Could happen honestly. Good semis in store

                                              15. Scoring freely
                                                • 8 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                If I were Joshua Bull I'd refuse the prize, the other guy won on merit. Whoever reported him obviously has a case of the green eyed monster.

                                                1. Epic Fail
                                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                  • 13 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  At the very least accept it and arrange for it to go to charity. It's no good for anyone if you simply let FPL just keep it. No skin off their nose.

                                                2. Big boy Bowen
                                                  • 7 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Imagine it turned out it was Joshua who reported him

                                                  1. 1zverGGadeM
                                                    • 6 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    Nope, it's from another Bulgarian 🙂

                                                    1. Big boy Bowen
                                                      • 7 Years
                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                      You?

                                                      1. 1zverGGadeM
                                                        • 6 Years
                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                        Maybe a jelous colleague, don't really know, but sadly it's typical for us 🙂

                                              16. Zimo
                                                • 5 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                So only the Manchester clubs will blank in GW 1

                                                1. Now I'm Panicking
                                                  • 9 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  And whoever they were supposed to play

                                                  1. Zimo
                                                    • 5 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    Yes. But maybe they make their fixture against each other knowing they will both be unavailable.
                                                    Who knows

                                                    1. Now I'm Panicking
                                                      • 9 Years
                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                      Yep - they could do that for sure.

                                                    2. Zimo
                                                      • 5 Years
                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                      Easier to reschedule 1 game than 2

                                                  2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                                                    • 7 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    Eachother? Maybe!

                                                  3. goriuanx
                                                    • 13 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    It'd be a coincidence if they face each other.

                                                    1. Now I'm Panicking
                                                      • 9 Years
                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                      Not really - fixtures aren't drawn like the FA Cup.

                                                2. bitm2007
                                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                  • 9 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Wolves and Chelsea as well by the sounds of it.

                                              17. Scoring freely
                                                • 8 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                At least Aleksandar didn't get stiffed for £40,000 by the Daily Mail only for them to elevate a known cheat to a prize position and then cancel their fantasy game when people found out.
                                                This site didn't report on that for some strange reason, but then again they have a contract with the company who ran the Daily Mail's game.

                                              18. Big boy Bowen
                                                • 7 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Wolves no Europe next season, makes assets even more desirable 😎

                                              19. The Train Driver
                                                • 8 Years
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                Wolves supporters, will you be cheering for Man Utd or Sevilla?

                                                1. 1zverGGadeM
                                                  • 6 Years
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Inter are still there, remember?

                                                  1. 1zverGGadeM
                                                    • 6 Years
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    Sorry, just realised that Inter will play Shakhtar and then United/Sevilla 🙁 This racist things really annoyed me tonight 🙁