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The best mid-price and premium FPL goalkeepers for 2020/21

The case for high-end premium goalkeepers is perhaps at the weakest it has been for years.

£6.0m shot-stoppers have historically provided some level of consistency in their returns but a sub-par year for the men between the sticks at Liverpool and Manchester City in 2019/20 has Fantasy Premier League managers looking at cheaper options all the more.

However, a selection of £5.5m assets may catch the eye if they start the campaign well, while some of the £5.0m goalkeepers have potential too.

Considering the limited selection of promising £4.5m goalkeepers, could Fantasy managers find value in this mid-price bracket in 2020/21?

We’ve run the rule over the 18 goalkeepers who cost £5.0m or more this season.

The title-challengers

Alisson (£6.0m) and Ederson (£6.0m) come into 2020/21 as the only £6.0m options in the goalkeeper bracket – but it is difficult to see what use they will be across the whole campaign.

Even though they play for the Premier League’s top two clubs, eight different goalkeepers racked up more points in 2019/20 than Ederson, while 10 managed more than Alisson.

Admittedly, the Brazilian did miss nine matches through injury, but his score of 122 averaged at just 4.2 points per game. While that could be seen as a steady stream of points by some, few would argue that it is worth paying £6.0m for.

Ederson’s value was even worse, offering just 3.8 points per game for his premium price point.

2019/20 was a worse than usual campaign for both Manchester City and Liverpool defensive credentials. The two clubs have previously displayed the ability to get 20 clean sheets or more in a season but in 2019/20, they managed 17 and 15 respectively.

Meanwhile, a suspension for Ederson and Alisson’s injury meant neither one could capitalise on their team’s full complement of shut-outs, getting points for 16 and 13 each.

And, of course, the main drawback of forking out for a premium goalkeeper is the lack of bonus and save points.

Alisson (11) and Ederson (two) combined for just 13 bonus points last season; the six shot-stoppers who managed more than that amalgamated total all coming into 2020/21 at a cheaper price.

Meanwhile, the top clubs’ domination of possession meant that 14 goalkeepers registered more saves than Ederson (68), while Alisson was only forced into 58.

Pope and the top-half options

By contrast, Nick Pope (£5.5m) is sure to offer significant value, it’s just whether or not you’re willing to pay £5.5m for a man who misses Gameweek 1.

No goalkeeper scored more than his 170 points last season, comprised of 15 clean sheets and, unlike those £6.0m options, the third-highest save tally in the division (120) and the highest bonus total among shot-stoppers too (23, seven more than second place).

It is not a huge leap to say that nobody in the £5.5m bracket can match Pope’s level of points potential for the new campaign based on what we saw in 2019/20.

Rui Patrício (£5.5m), Kasper Schmeichel (£5.5m), David de Gea (£5.5m) and Dean Henderson (£5.5m) all kept 13 clean sheets, two fewer than Pope, but each one was at least 22 behind on saves with none of these teams likely to give up as many shots as Burnley.

And while Pope registered 23 bonus points, Patrício, De Gea and Schmeichel all mustered 10 or fewer.

Only one of De Gea or Henderson is likely to be a regular starter this season in light of the latter appearing to commit to playing at Old Trafford this season. Alternatively, the battle for Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s number one spot may not be as clear cut and could see regular switches between the two.  

In favour of Hugo Lloris (£5.5m) and Patrício is the fact that both clubs have been handed two of the most appealing fixture schedules at the start of 2020/21.

However, there are cheaper options at both clubs in the defensive areas, with Ben Davies (£5.0m) and Eric Dier (£5.0m) among those considered at Spurs, while Romain Saïss (£5.0m) and Ruben Vinagre (£4.5m) can undercut Patrício.

Furthermore, even though Lloris actually bettered Pope for minutes per save last season (22.3 to 28.5), he kept a clean sheet in just 28% of his appearances, compared to 39.4% for the Burnley man.

BIG SIX VALUE OPTIONS

Fantasy managers will be watching the Community Shield with great interest this season, as they hope to discover which of Arsenal’s two goalkeepers will be the number one choice for 2020/21.

Despite missing most of the Premier League restart in June and July, Bernd Leno (£5.0m) still finished last season inside the top five for saves with a total of 113.

That helped the German finish 2019/20 with an overall score of 114, an average of 3.8 per game. The question is whether or not he will be fit enough for the new campaign, having previously been the first choice.

With Arsenal having steadily improved defensively under Mikel Arteta and during Project Restart, whichever goalkeeper starts the campaign is likely to offer value but, without wanting to wish misfortune on anyone, the Fantasy community is surely rooting for Martínez.

While the Spaniard is £0.5m cheaper he conceded fewer goals per game and boasted a better figure for saves per 90 minutes than Leno last season.

It is no secret that Chelsea are in the market for a new goalkeeper, which is surely enough to ward anyone off considering Willy Caballero (£5.0m) or Kepa Arrizabalaga (£5.0m) at this stage of the campaign.

Ironically enough, if Frank Lampard was able to bring Pope to Chelsea it might damage his points potential as so much of his appeal stems from the number of shots Burnley typically concede (more than the Blues).

If Lampard looks outside the Premier League for his new shot-stopper, it will be interesting to see how they will be priced. Based on their underlying statistics, Chelsea are a team that can keep clean sheets if their problems between the sticks are solved.

Kepa kept just eight clean sheets last season, shutting out opponents in just 24% of his appearances, adding just 55 saves.

If Chelsea do get to the end of the transfer window with no recruitment in goal, and they have shown some improvement, then £5.0m is a price well worth paying, there are just too many factors to warrant investing right now.

MID-TABLE MAYBES

Can Aaron Ramsdale prosper in FPL and will he affect the Sheffield United defence?

There does appear to be more interest in the £5.0m bracket at the mid-table than in previous years.

Each of these options are more nailed-on starters for Gameweek 1 than Leno or Kepa, and some of them are certainly in a position to outperform them for saves.

Fresh from relegation with Bournemouth, Aaron Ramsdale (£5.0m) has joined Sheffield United, a team that kept 13 clean sheets during their first season back in the Premier League.

128 saves for the Cherries last time out suggests there is the possibility Ramsdale could combine his increased clean sheet potential with a penchant for additionals and offer value in 2020/21. We did a full Scout Report on the player HERE.

No goalkeeper made more saves than Martin Dúbravka (£5.0m) last season, managing a total of 139. That contributed to an overall season score of 143 points, propped by a solid total of 11 clean sheets. 

Only five goalkeepers registered more points than Dúbravka in 2019/20, all of them coming into the new campaign priced at £5.5m. If this season’s shot-stopping charts were to reflect last, that would make the Newcastle man a value option indeed. In fact, last time out, only Pope, Ryan and Henderson finished with a better value (season) score than Dúbravka (28.6).

Jordan Pickford (£5.0m) struggled to live up to the promise of his previous two campaigns in 2019/20, scoring just 117 points, a drop-off of 44 compared to 2018/19.

While Everton’s defensive issues are perhaps not over just yet, any slight improvement could see £5.0m prove a cut-price cost for Fantasy managers, especially if they could go close to the 14 clean sheets recorded the season before last. 

Despite injury curtailing the first half of 2019/20, Lukasz Fabianski (£5.0m) remains in the £5.0m category, perhaps ruling him out for now.

Crystal Palace will have to improve defensively if Vicente Guaita (£5.0m) is to become a viable goalkeeper in 2020/21. During Project Restart, no team that survived relegation conceded more goals than the Eagles.

THE NO-GOES

The £5.0m bracket ends with some of the most avoidable assets in all of Fantasy Premier League.

Looking likely to be third in the Manchester United pecking order now, Sergio Romero (£5.0m) is certainly overpriced based on realistic estimates of his score this season. The Argentinian has not amassed more than 23 points in a single Premier League campaign since arriving in 2015/16.

Meanwhile, without a single Premier League minute for Newcastle since 2017/18, Karl Darlow (£5.0m) has somehow gained a £5.0m price-tag despite ending 2019/20 at £4.3m.

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627 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Botman and Robben
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Any keeper above 4.5m to start with is too expensive.

    1. SPorting
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Set and forget rule OK

    2. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ramsdale @5.0 might turn out to be good if the SHU defence proves as tight as last year, but Henderson was a big part of that.

    3. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Lloris at 5.5 is fine, projected to hit 160+ points

      1. Botman and Robben
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Maybe, but I find that 1m better spent on outfield players.

      2. WVA
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Except he never manages that and misses games

        1. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Every year is different

        2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Yup, always

      3. Pegboy
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Our defence (and central midfield) is terrible. I wouldn't want Lloris at 5m

  2. SPorting
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Season keeper.

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Then bake for 45 mins.

      1. Gazwaz80
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Very good, wasted on this rabble 😉

      2. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

  3. adstomko
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on this unusual draft?

    McCarthy
    Trent, Tierney, Davies, Vinagre, Justin
    Aubameyang, Salah, Mané, Son
    Mitrovic

    1. Pegboy
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Quite like it. I hate the 5.5/5 bracket for defenders, so would probably upgrade Tierney to Doherty/VVD and downgrade Davies. Rest look fine, assuming you'll jump off one of Mane/Salah in Wk 2/3.

      1. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        What's wrong with Davies? Spurs should keep 6 CS in the first 8.

        1. WVA
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Three max

        2. Lovren an elevator
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Is Davies absolutely nailed though? Ryan Sess is always about...

          1. Flair
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Yes. Mourinho always plays and loves the trusted 7/10 every match defenders. If Sess plays, it'll be with Davies at LCB, not without.

            Dier is nailed too so you can go for him instead, has more attacking threat too.

            1. Lovren an elevator
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Fair point, thanks for sharing.
              I like Davies if he is nailed but concerned with lack of attacking threat. Dier looks good if nailed but my concern is he is a bit lame and could get dropped at some point (and im in a draft league so need nailed)
              You think we need a spurs defender? I'm assuming mourinho will want to rack up cleansheets this season

              1. Flair
                • 3 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                I trust Mourinho defense a lot, especially when he's in his legendary second season which typically have blistering starts. With the easy fixtures I predict at least 6 CS in 8, so I've gone for the Lloris and Dier/Davies double up.

                Do we "need" a Spurs defender? I would never say that because it's too definite a statement. Should, imo, we have at least one Spurs defense. 100% yes for the reasons listed above plus a better DM in Højbjerg. I like Davies/Dier better than the 4.5s besides Vinagre too.

                1. Lovren an elevator
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  So who is the safer and better pick for the whole season: Dier or Davies?

                  1. Pegboy
                    • 13 Years
                    3 years, 8 months ago

                    We work in max 16 game blocks due to first wildcard, but if you want a Spurs defender (and you shouldn't) it should be Davies.

            2. arcticalex17
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              what about rose? will he not be competing with Davies?

            3. Pegboy
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Dier will start, but not nailed with Sanchez behind him. He certainly seems to be Mou's pet project at the moment.

          2. Pegboy
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Davies is nailed and Sess won't see more than a handleful of PL starts before Xmas.

        3. Pegboy
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          No attacking threat and we're a shambles defensively.

        4. Pegboy
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          When was the last time we kept 6 clean sheets in 18 games, let alone 8?

    2. DannyDrinkVodka
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I like it a lot

    3. Stimps
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Would be interested to see the bench

  4. Kambo
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    What sort of minutes do we think Mahrez will play this season in comparison to Sterling?
    Surely they should be seeing the same amount of game time with the current squad...

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Sterling will play more by a decent amount, Pep trusts him more than Mahrez.

  5. Bielsa's Bucket
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Lil RnB for me (Ryan and Button).

    1. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Problem is that this private Ryan doesn't get many saves.

  6. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    would love to get loris

    I think spurs will keep plenty of CS this year and against the harder teams he makes a ton of saves + finished the season in brilliant form

    unfortunately it seems gospel that you can't spend more than 4.5 and he is a bit injury prone

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      The "spending more than 4.5 is bad" excuse is rubbish, but his injury proneness does put me off. Currently in my team but if Martinez starts for Arsenal he's the man

      1. nonprophet
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Not really. If you do analysis of seasons past, the value really isn't there.

        1. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          He's playing for Mourinho now. Remember De Gea 2017/18?

          1. nonprophet
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I agree. Although I don't think the 1 million historically has paid much dividends, numbers say that too. I love your comment above about MoU and his second season starts. I would rather have Foden and a 4.5 instead of Lloris and Armstrong for example, and I'd much rather Aurier at 5.5. Keepers normally should be the cheapest way into a defense imo, especially when he won't get many save points and Aurier can get a few goals and am assist...

    2. Pegboy
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Genuinely, why are people expecting a transformation in Spurs defence this year? Just Mou's (early career) record of better second seasons? Seems a bit like blind faith until we see some evidence of progression.

      1. nonprophet
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I think it has a lot to do with spurs after the project restart

    3. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      you do what you damn well please man

  7. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I chuckled when I saw Kepa in the featured image of this article 😀 🙂

    1. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Unless I am looking elsewhere, that is Rui Patricio, not Kepa. The one with Pope & Alisson?

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Widely known kepa is a wolves fan

        1. FPL Daniel
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          My mistake, i mixed up Pope and Kepa by look. Thanks for pointing out lads

  8. Fantasyfootballryan
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    First draft, thoughts? 0.5m ITB

    McCarthy
    Gomez, Davies, Vinagre, Saliba
    Salah, Aubameyang, Greenwood
    Kane, Werner, Mitrovic

    Nyland, Soucek, Taylor, Romeu

    1. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      If TAA hauls in the first few games, do you want to be playing catch-up so early in the season?

      1. Fantasyfootballryan
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        He was my main worry yes, unsure how i could get him in though!

        1. Steve The Spud
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          To get him in I’d change Kane or Werner to jimi or ings

  9. ShaunGoater123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Hows this draft looking?

    McCarthy

    TAA / Saliba / Bavies / Justin

    Salah (C) / Auba / Son / Armstrong

    Mitrovic / Werner

    Button / Greenwood / Ferguson / Brewster

    If Brewster doesn't move then he can become Davis from Villa. week 3 onwards will look to adjust and get in a city player

    1. OverTinker
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Where will Brewster go most likely?

      1. ShaunGoater123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        seen rumours of leeds, villa or brighton. nothing concrete but a loan move would be good for him and the club so can see it happening

    2. DannyDrinkVodka
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'd spend an extra 0.5 on Bellerin and consider getting Foden instead of Greenwood.

      1. ShaunGoater123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        yeah not bad suggestions. would then need to juggle to get in a united guy later on but perfectly doable

  10. Bleh
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Best defender up to 5.5? Looking for attacking threat as well as clean sheet potential ideally.

    1. WVA
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      KWP?

    2. DannyDrinkVodka
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Tierney/Bellerin

    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Just get a 4.5. I think the defensive structure to start this season is pretty straightforward.

      TAA, Doherty, 4.5, 4.5, 4.0.

      You don't want more than this in defense to start the season. Having too much in defense hamstrings your ability to jump on good attacking bandwagons.

      1. DannyDrinkVodka
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I think someone like Bellerin/Davies or both in the 5.0 price bracket are worth the extra $$

      2. sidepot
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Hamstrings your ability is much better than hampers

        1. Party time
            3 years, 8 months ago

            😆

        2. Kindness
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I don't think this is good advice. Differentiating from the template slightly by putting some extra money in defence could be a great way to get ahead in the early weeks. Tierney for me

            1. Camzy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              The way to differentiate from template is to take money out of defense and use it upfront wisely.

              Defense has the lowest upside traditionally because they are involved in fewer goals. Doing something like TAA > Davies is how you can really differentiate if you are aggressive and trust your selections.

              1. MikeBravo
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                I like it - steer people away from the best value players

          • Baps hunter
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I prefer those two premiums, but may use .5 -1.0 million more if there is no "steal" at 4.0 and Vinagre is out of the question. Decent 5.0 Spurs or Wolves def is not a bad idea. The last bench fodder should be 4.5 fwd imo. You get Bamford for that .5 extra and I prefer rather to use that extra in decent def.

        3. kime67
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          aurier

        4. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Attacking threat? I've got TAA, Robbo Doherty. All will outscore mids/fwds at their price-points.

          1. MikeBravo
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Sshh!

      3. WVA
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        This looks very balanced and has premium's in each position?

        Ryan
        TAA VVD Doherty KWP
        Salah Auba Son Soucek
        Vardy Mitrovic
        Button Stephens Ferguson Davis

        1. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Looks nice and template

        2. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          It's pretty good at first glance. But it falls apart pretty quickly when you realize that MUN have CPL bha in their first two games while CHE have arguably the best first 5 fixtures for attacking and you have none of them.

          Seems like a bit of a short-sighted draft. However, if you plan to WC in GW 2 or something, it's pretty nice!

          1. WVA
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Very easy to get a united player in. Chelsea do have great fixtures but they have too many new player's and too much risk of rotation, they are a wait and see unless Pulisic is back cause I love him!
            I'm also tempted on Ings over Vardy so I have 1.5 ITB to get Bruno and KDB with ease

            1. Camzy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              No it's not easy to get a United player in because you haven't prepared for it.

              Son cannot become Rashford or Fernandes. Only Greenwood. Vardy can become Martial but with Vardy's fixtures, you're committing to him for a while.

              1. WVA
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                So it is easy, two of my players can become a United player no problem, if I think the score more points what's the problem. Besides with my Ings team son can become Fernandes, long way to go to the start of the season

                1. Camzy
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  It comes down to priorities. I prioritize Fernandes at home to Palace extremely highly. Much more highly than most others. If you don't feel the same way, that's fine and you should build your team that way.

                  I don't think your draft is poor. It's actually very strong if you believe that Vardy and double Liverpool defense will score well. I just disagree on those particular concepts.

        3. dbeck
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          nicely balanced imo, whats your plan to get united and city in?

        4. Ser Davos
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Looks like the team for the marathon FPL is

      4. Stormbringer22
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Can see a lot of people falling for a Martinez trap. Not that he is a bad keeper, on the contrary. However, I can see Arsenal starting Martinez in the Community Shield, everyone assumes he is the top choice for Arsenal and bring him into their teams, and then GW1 - boom - Leno in goal. Many forced -4 hits afterwards to ship Martinez out.

        1. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Agree, only going for Martinez if Arteta makes the order clear.

        2. Third Eye Vision
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          He’s the keeper I’ve had in all of my drafts. Surely, the keeper who plays in the Community Shield will be the keeper who starts the season. Why would it be otherwise?

          1. Miguel Sanchez
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            It could be a way of placating the cup keeper for the season.

          2. Stormbringer22
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Every team has PL keepers and cup keepers. Community Shield isn't even that important.

        3. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Completely agree, nothing other than Arteta saying he is their number 1 will convince me to risk him.

      5. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Most likely going to go with Lloris as the keeper. Highest PPG and will get bonus + CS in a Mourinho team, projected to hit 160+ points - a conservative estimate. Jose teams also start strong in their second season..Will reconsider when I WC.

        1. BNMC
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          This. I’m more than happy to “overspend” on a GK with his consistency - especially when the Spurs attack is not reliable.

        2. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I don't think McCarthy at 4.5 will be too far off that by the end of the season. Certainly not enough to spend the extra 1.0...

          Note, Lloris also had the highest save percentage last year

      6. DannyDrinkVodka
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I notice quite a few people going with the McCarthy/KWP double-up.........I don't get it.......

        1. kime67
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          what could go wrong really, cheap as chips and soton could be good

        2. WVA
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I'm a saints fan and neither do I! Ryan KWP for me

        3. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Don't get what? I'm a simple guy - I just get the players who are best value. Why over-complicate?

      7. Thomas Jerome Newton
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Is Ole Gunnar Solskjaer going for rotating goalkeepers at 5.5m each? Crazy!

        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Presume Henderson will be their Cup keeper until DDG form tanks further

      8. Stormbringer22
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        See a lot of love here for KWP with some saying that he is the best 4.5 defensive option. Just wondering why, what stands out so much? I have McCarthy in goal and don't really fancy doubling-up on Saints' defence. Should I be considering the double-up?

        1. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          The best 4.5 is Vinagre and it isn't even close unless he gets replaced.

          KWP has decent attacking potential and okay fixtures. I don't have a single Saints defender because I prefer Davies/Dier at .5 more but I get the appeal.

          1. Stormbringer22
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Vinagre would be great early on unless Wolves sign an LB. Definitely one to strongly consider. Having gone with Doherty myself, I don't know if I fancy doubling-up on Wolves defence either. I tend to avoid defensive double-ups so early on in the season.

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              IF Wolves don't sign a LWB, Vinagre is almost essential given his possible EO mate. Too good a deal to pass on.
              Same as Greenwood

              1. Stormbringer22
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Would you go for a Doh/Vinagre double-up then? Also, would love to hear your stance on Gwood as a Man Utd fan. Out of the 4 obvious Utd assets, I rate him at 4th place due to likely more limited minutes and the fact that the other 3 seem a lot more attacking. Awkward price bracket for me personally given my team structure. Do you rate Gwood that highly?

                1. Amey
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  I'd definitely get Vinagre if they don't sign a LWB. No point in taking unnecessary risk as everyone will afford him.

                  Same with Greenwood tbh.

                  I rate him highly yes. But if United sign a senior RW i won't go anywhere near him.
                  He's a kid. So should be protected from burning out.

                  Actually I'm very confident that United will sign a winger as 2/3 senior team attackers left United recently & none joined really (james is a kid too)
                  Wages released by Sanchez would help too. Also expecting to see one of Lingard Periera leave so should be at least one attacker signing incoming

                  1. Stormbringer22
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 4 Years
                    3 years, 8 months ago

                    That was my thinking as well. Was convinced Sancho deal would happen and now looks less likely but as you, I do think a senior RW will be signed by the end of the window. Hence why I have structured everything without having that 7.5-8.0 midfield slot that I had in one of my earliest drafts. Will see where things stand closer to the deadline.

                    Thanks for the input Amey!

            2. Flair
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              I have two of them in Wolves and Spurs lol

              I trust the defense and they have generous fixtures. What's not to like?

        2. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I never understand this coverage nonsense. If I don't trust a defence, I don't get their defenders or goalie, Simple. If I trust one defender/keeper, why wouldn't I trust two?

          1. Amey
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Well Andy, defensive coverage does make some sense IMO as they get CS together.

            Attacking coverage does not matter though yeah

            1. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              I'm not great on trusting 4.5 from mid-table teams to get CSs. All my playing defenders are from the 2 sides I have most confidence to get CSs in - Liverpool and Wolves. The little 4m chap is just for the bench.

              1. Amey
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Well we're almost same there. I have Shaw instead of you Vinagre i guess 😉

                1. Andy_Social
                  • 11 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  Yeah, in addition to Pool and Wolves, I'd be reasonably confident in City and United nailed defenders.

          2. Stormbringer22
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            You make a point. I tend to spread my eggs in more baskets to begin with so it makes it easier to bail if I have misjudged a certain team's defence capabilities. Further down the line I do tend to double-up a bit more when I have a bigger sample size.

      9. ADucksBehind
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        This is my 12th season. It still amazes me how this early drafts fall into the same old traps year on year. (myself included)

        1. Stormbringer22
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          What are the traps?

          1. Zimo
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            What indeed

      10. CaTriEm
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Brewster getting a PL loan would be a real game-changer in terms of getting the most out of the 100m budget. Saw enough of Brewster in the Championship to think that he'd be able to deliver FPL points too.

        Rumours of Origi to Villa/Leeds also worth monitoring, not many options at 5.5 and lower.

        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Absolutely - suspect his move might be a late one in the transfer window

        2. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I might go with big 3 in Midfield if that happens

        3. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Brewster at 4.5 could make the game a lot more boring

      11. dbeck
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        hows she looking? Have enough money itb to go Antonio to Martial after GW1

        McCarthy
        Davies Bellerin TAA Justin
        Salah Auba Soucek
        Antonio Werner Mitro

        Button Greenwood Mitchell Bissouma

        1. Stormbringer22
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I like it a lot. My only comments are Davies and Bellerin but I know that a lot of people are considering them as well so they can't be a bad pick

          1. dbeck
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            yeah, i could go down to two 4.5 guys and give me 1m or just one down to 4.5m to get Soucek to an Armstrong sort of guy

            1. Steve The Spud
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Like it, I just feel like I have to get Bruno as my Utd player and set him in for the season - but your method looks really good as well

        2. Studs Up
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Too much WHU?

      12. BNMC
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        What did we make of Everton’s game the other day? I’m wondering if their players are worth considering at all with their opening fixtures, keeping in mind that last season they had similarly good opening fixtures but underperformed. Perhaps the only consistent Toffee is Richy.

        1. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Friendlies don't matter.

        2. Third Eye Vision
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I think Richy is a tricky price point. For 0.5 more you can get Jimenez or Ings and they’re probably more consistent options.

          The main thing that I took from the game is that if we don’t make signings, we’ll be in a relegation battle this season. The joys.

        3. Now I'm Panicking
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Still had sand between their toes

      13. kime67
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Is there a button to skip a month?

      14. Slitherene
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        What would you change?

        McCarthy
        Aurier TAA Boly Justin
        Son Auba Ziyech Mane Armstrong
        Mitrovic/DC-L

        0.5 ITB to get in Sterling/KdB & Bruno/Rashford

        1. WVA
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          You will have to change Aurier soon
          I cannot understand the DCL pick
          Vinagre over boly

        2. Coys96
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Boly to Vinagre
          Aurier to Dier
          DCL to Martial

        3. Fpl Richie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I love Boly but the price is prohibitive - only 0.5 from Doherty's high ceiling and Saiss or Vinagre kindly priced below.

      15. BNMC
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Any suggestions?

        Lloris
        TAA Vinagre Walker-Peters
        Salah Auba Ziyech Soucek
        Ings Mitrovic Antonio

        Nyland Greenwood Dallas Ferguson

        Bank is empty. The only real issue I have with my team is potentially needing to sell Antonio right away.

        1. Steve The Spud
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Same front line as me except I’ve got jimi instead of ings

          Feel the same about Antonio going with the form on this one I think, other option is che Adams but with Armstrong, kwp and mcarthy all good picks from saints makes it tough

          1. The Sarjeant
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I’ve got Antonio too. I’m unsure between him and Adams. 75% Antonio, 25% Adams.

      16. ElliotJHP
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Son + 1.5 vs Kane my big decision at the moment.

        Would probably leave 1.5 itb and look to make GW3 Auba -> Raz/KDB + 4.5 -> Virg

        1. ElliotJHP
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Just typing out loud, Son can also easily shift to Bruno with the spare cash so edging that way now

        2. Steve The Spud
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Good thing about owning Kane is he could explode and if not is an easy move to

          Jimi, Werner, martial, ings, vardy

      17. Will J 256
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        What do you make of this draft guys?
        McCarthy
        Trent, Vinagre, Justin
        Salah, Son, Aubameyang, Ziyech, Armstrong,
        Werner, Mitrovic

        Nyland, Ferguson, Taylor, Davis

      18. Oooo Matron
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        What do you think? I've easy moves to City/United players if need be...

        Is Ings worth the extra 2.5 over Che Adams?

        McCarthy
        TAA Vinagre Justin
        Soucek Auba Son Salah (C)
        Werner Ings Mitrovic

        Subs: Button, Ferguson, Bissouma, Taylor

        1. amitmishr
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Similar to mine. I have doh in defense and 4-4-2

      19. The Sarjeant
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Had a dream last night I was messing about with my team and somehow ended up with Haller and Egan in it. Forgot to update my team and went into the season with Haller (c) and Egan (vc). Nightmare.

        1. Gunners in Haaland
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Haller essential now. Thank you!

          1. The Sarjeant
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            He didn’t even start either! 😥

        2. BNMC
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I'll come back to this comment on September 13th when Haller scores a hat-trick past Newcastle.

        3. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Damn, you must be thinking about FPL a lot!

          1. The Sarjeant
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I think it’s because I spent an hour last night before I went sleep comparing McCarthy with Rodak...

            1. The Sarjeant
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Thinking of Fulham goalkeepers must have triggered the nightmare! 😆

      20. Champions League Varane
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thoughts?

        McCarthy 4.0
        TAA Davies/Dier Vinagre Saliba Ferguson
        Auba Salah ASM Periera 4.5
        Werner Kane Mitrovic

        1. Gunners in Haaland
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Decent team!

      21. LikeItLoveIt
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thoughts on this rabble please -

        McCarthy
        Trent, Vinagre, Gomez
        Auba, Salah, Ziyech, ASM, Soucek
        Werner, Antonio

        Bench - fodder

        Gw2 - Soucek to Greenwood
        Gw3 - Auba to KDB

        1. LikeItLoveIt
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          *and 3m ITB

        2. Pegboy
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Not sure Soucek in Wk1 is worth an immediate transfer. Can you bench Greenwood and play someone from your bench?

          1. LikeItLoveIt
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Possibly I'll have a look thanks

      22. mclark802
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        If you had to pick between Aubameyang/Greenwood in your team or Son/Fernandes who would you choose?