Scout Notes

Popular FPL forward Werner scores on Chelsea debut as Ziyech suffers knee “twist”

Fantasy Football Scout’s coverage of pre-season continues with another round of match reports on key friendlies.

We’ve gone over some recent summer games to pull out the key Fantasy talking points… and track the minutes played by every player…

BRIGHTON 1-1 CHELSEA

  • Goals: Pascal Groß (£6.0m) | Timo Werner (£9.5m)
  • Assists: Aaron Connolly (£5.5m) | Callum Hudson-Odoi (£6.0m)

Timo Werner (£9.5m) did not wait around to get his Chelsea career off and running.

The former Leipzig forward made his debut for the Blues in a pre-season draw with Brighton on Saturday afternoon, finding the net before the five-minute mark.

Werner also produced plenty to like off the ball as well, with some excellent energy and movement during his 61-minute outing.

There was, as expected, a lot of drifting into the left-hand channel and dropping deep, but these runs only served to demonstrate Werner’s ability to link-up with his team-mates – possibly hinting at assist potential.

It must be said that the German international offered a lot more in the first half than during the second, in light of the creativity and service around him.

Stationed on the right-hand side of Chelsea’s front-three, Hakim Ziyech (£8.0m) showed exactly why Frank Lampard wanted to bring him to Chelsea. As well as providing excellent delivery from set plays, it was his cross that led to Werner’s goal, helped on by Callum Hudson-Odoi (£6.0m).

There was, perhaps, a little bit too much time spent on the chalk of the touchline against Brighton for Ziyech but it is early days yet.

Furthermore, Fantasy managers may have to play a patient game with the former Ajax man in light of a second-half injury. Ziyech was forced off in the 54th with what Lampard described post-match as a “little twist to the knee” that needs to be looked at. Olivier Giroud (£7.0m) also left the game late-on with a bandaged head. 

Christian Pulisic (£8.5m), Fikayo Tomori (£5.0m), Emerson Palmieri (£5.0m), Mason Mount (£7.0m), Ross Barkley (£6.0m), Jorginho (£5.0m), Michy Batshuayi (£6.0m) and Tammy Abraham (£7.5m) all missed the game due to time in isolation over the last two weeks.

As ever, concerns about Chelsea’s defence remain as they conceded two penalties at the Amex Stadium, one saved by Willy Caballero (£4.5m), the other conceded.

Meanwhile, Leeds fans will not have enjoyed Ben White (£4.5m) featuring for over an hour as part of a strong-looking back-three for Brighton.

He was joined at the back by Lewis Dunk (£5.0m) and Adam Webster (£4.5m) as Graham Potter vows to give him the chance to earn a first-team place this season.

Tariq Lamptey (£4.5m) was used as a second-half substitute while three different Seagulls goalkeepers were used – but David Button (£4.0m) did not feature.

Christian Walton came on for Mat Ryan (£4.5m) at the interval but was forced off through injury with 10 minutes left to play, allowing Robert Sánchez to come on and finish the game.

Pascal Groß (£6.0m) scored the equalising goal for Brighton from the spot, but it is unclear what this means for the pecking order as Neal Maupay (£6.5m) had been substituted before this penalty, having missed one of his own earlier in the match.

Brighton and Hove Albion XI (3-5-1-1): Ryan (Walton 62′ | Sánchez 80′); Dunk (Bernardo 62′), Webster (Burn 62′), B White (Duffy 62′); March (Connolly 62′), Bissouma (D Stephens 62′ | Sanders 73′), Alzate (Molumby 46′), Lallana (Mac Allister 46′), Veltman (Lamptey 46′); Trossard (Jahanbakhsh 62′); Maupay (Groß 62′).

Chelsea XI (4-3-3): Kepa (Caballero 46′); Alonso (Maatsen 66′), Christensen (Azpilicueta 46′), Clarke-Salter (Rüdiger 46′), R James (Lawrence 66′); Loftus-Cheek (Vale 72′), Kanté (Ampadu 61′), Kovačić (Baker 61′); Hudson-Odoi (McCormick 72′), Werner (Giroud 61′ | Castillo 90+2′), Ziyech (Gallagher 54′).

SPURS 4-1 READING

  • Goals: Own Goal, Dele Alli (£8.0m), Son Heung-min (£9.0m), Erik Lamela (£6.0m)
  • Assists: Son x2, Lucas Moura (£7.0m), Steven Bergwijn (£7.5m)

Son Heung-min (£9.0m) continued his exhilarating pre-season form in a big win over Reading on Friday, but Fantasy managers are urged to consider the context before jumping at the chance to throw him in their next draft.

For the second friendly in a row, the South Korean was used as a central striker in the absence of Harry Kane (£10.5m), who missed the last two weeks of training following a quarantine period after travelling.

Just as he did back in February, Son made the most of his advanced central role against Reading and now has three goals and two (Fantasy) assists this summer.

In the first half on Friday, Ben Davies (£5.0m) played a long ball down the left-hand side of the field, run onto by Son, whose shot was turned into his own net by Omar Richards.

Alli headed to Lucas Moura (£7.0m) on the edge of the box, taking in an immediate first-touch return pass and lofting the ball over visiting goalkeeper Rafael Cabral.

Steven Bergwijn (£7.5m) found space on the left six minutes later, allowing him enough room to pick out Son in the box, who swept in at the back post.

The South Korean was then involved again as he got fouled for the free-kick Erik Lamela (£6.0m) dispatched in the 52nd minute.

Tottenham Hotspur XI (4-2-3-1): Lloris (Hart 46′ | Gazzaniga 74′); B Davies (Sessegnon 46′), Dier (Carter-Vickers 46′), Alderweireld, G Fernandes (Aurier 46′); Højbjerg (Bowden 75′), White (Sissoko 46′ (Devine 86′)); Bergwijn (Cirkin 62′), Alli (Clarke 62′), Moura (Lamela 46′); Son (Scarlett 81′).

SPURS 1-0 BIRMINGHAM

  • Goals: Steven Bergwijn (£7.5m)
  • Assists: Pierre-Emile Højbjerg (£5.0m)

Spurs’ next pre-season game, played the following day added a few extra factors for Fantasy managers to consider.

Kane was finally named as part of a matchday squad after his period of self-isolation, although he did not feature against Birmingham. It means we will probably only get to see him in action for Spurs before Gameweek 1 when they travel to Watford on September 5 – although he is due to play for England during the international break.

With three friendlies in the books for Spurs now, we are starting to get an idea of who Mourinho’s favourites have been in other positions.

Gedson Fernandes (£5.0m) has played 225 minutes across those outings, used in a number of different roles (including right-back) while Ryan Sessegnon (£5.0m) has registered the same game-time (most among Spurs players) predominantly on the left-hand side of attacking midfield.

Moura has also been extensively used, playing for 90 minutes against Birmingham and is the third-most utilised Spurs player so far.

Also of note, Cameron Carter-Vickers has now played 180 minutes, the most of any Spurs centre-back. While Toby Alderweireld (£5.5m) and Eric Dier (£5.0m) are likely to be the first-choice pair, the youngster’s involvement could be enough to earn a £4.0m or £4.5m price on FPL.

The same could be said of Dennis Cirkin, who has largely been rotating the left-back berth with Davies, registering 118 minutes so far.

Tottenham Hotspur XI (4-3-3): Hart (Lloris 46′); Cirkin (B Davies 46′), Carter-Vickers, Dier (Bergwijn 46′), Aurier; White (Alli 46′), G Fernandes, Sissoko (Højbjerg 61′); Sessegnon, Clarke (Son 71′), Moura. 

NEWCASTLE 2-1 BARNSLEY

  • Goals: Andy Carroll (£5.5m), Jacob Murphy
  • Assists: Matt Ritchie (£5.0m)

Andy Carroll (£5.5m) continues to draw Fantasy attention ahead of the new season as he scored for the second pre-season friendly in a row on Saturday.

With Dwight Gayle (£6.0m) currently out injured with an ankle problem, and Joelinton (£6.0m) and Yoshinori Muto (£5.0m) still yet to be involved in a single friendly, Carroll’s chances of starting Gameweek 1 are beginning to look encouraging indeed.

Add into the mix that he has now scored two goals in as many appearances over the summer, and Steve Bruce may have no choice but to build his attack around the striker for the visit of West Ham on Saturday, September 12.

With a dearth of serious options in the £5.5m bracket among forwards this season, interest in Carroll may increase slightly in the coming days.

Meanwhile, Fantasy managers should keep an eye on the goalkeeper situation at Newcastle in light of Martin Dúbravka‘s (£5.0m) recent injury.

Karl Darlow (£5.0m) is obviously too expensive for anyone to really consider but Mark Gillespie (£4.5m) could offer value if he were to nail a place down. So far this pre-season, both goalkeepers have played half of the two games. With each of them on 90 minutes total game-time this summer, more data is needed.

Of the two goalkeepers, Darlow remains the unbeaten one so far, Newcastle conceding nine minutes after Gillespie came on against Barnsley.

Matt Ritchie (£5.0m) made his first appearance of pre-season on Saturday, featuring on the left-hand side of midfield, registering an assist for Carroll’s goal and going close to scoring himself.

Allan Saint-Maximin (£5.5m) was used only as a second-half substitute in this outing and, interestingly, after two games, 11 of his colleagues have been handed more game-time. The Frenchman was exciting during his 29-minute cameo though, producing a trademark fizzing run and cross late in the game, which nearly resulted in Josh Murphy (not yet priced) adding his second of the game, were it not for a deft touch by Barnsley’s goalkeeper.

Murphy was another player to add some zip to Newcastle in the second half, winning a penalty that he scored himself.

Newcastle United XI (4-5-1): Darlow (Gillespie 46′); Dummett (Manquillo 61′), Clark (Yedlin 61′), Fernández (Lejeune 61′), Krafth; Ritchie (Atsu 61′), S Longstaff (Murphy 61′), Hayden (Saivet 74′), Shelvey (Barlaser 74′), Hendrick (Saint-Maximin 61′); Carroll (Almirón 61′).

HEARTS 0-1 SHEFF UTD

  • Goals: John Fleck (£6.0m)
  • Assists: Billy Sharp (£6.0m)

Billy Sharp‘s (£6.0m) pre-season form may start asking some questions of Chris Wilder ahead of the 2020/21 campaign.

The veteran forward scored the only goal of Sheffield United’s abandoned 1-0 win at Dundee United last week and he provided an assist as the Blades won at Hearts.

He played in John Fleck (£6.0m) to open the scoring inside the eighth minute before going to close to adding his second goal of the summer and having an effort ruled out for offside.

Sharp and Callum Robinson (£5.5m) have both started each of Sheffield United’s pre-season games so far while Oli McBurnie (£6.0m) and David McGoldrick (£5.5m) remain missing, likely due to isolating in light of track and trace alerts.

While the latter pairing is arguably the first-choice at Bramall Lane, especially based on Project Restart performances, their continued absence from friendly matches is allowing Sharp and Robinson to show what they can do, each of them inside the top-three most-used Blades assets thus far.

Wilder is still without Jack O’Connell (£5.0m) but was able to welcome George Baldock (£5.5m) into the fold, the right wing-back representing the only change from the team selected against Dundee, Regan Slater demoted to the bench.

That meant Wilder could hand another solid innings to the central midfield trio of Fleck, Sander Berge (£5.0m) and Oliver Norwood (£5.0m), who played 67 minutes together at Hearts.

Considering John Lundstram (£5.5m) is still not involved, although back in training, it does look as if Fleck, Berge and Norwood could be the midfield triumvirate for the Gameweek 1 hosting of Wolves.

“John is back with us, there’s a contract offer there. That’s between the club and John and his agent. There’s no reason for John to down tools, and if he’s here for the rest of the season, he’s here for the rest of the season. Would I like him to sign a new contract? Of course, he was outstanding for us. We’ll keep looking at the situation. If the window comes and somebody makes a bid for him, that’s up to John to consider and us to consider.” – Chris Wilder

Another returning name was Lys Mousset (£6.0m) who, after missing out on the Dundee United game, emerged as a 75th-minute replacement for Chris Basham (£5.0m) on Friday.

Sheffield United XI (3-5-2): Ramsdale; J Robinson (K Bryan 67′), Egan (Jagielka 67′), Basham (Mousset 75′); Stevens (Norrington-Davies 67′), Fleck (Osborn 67′), Norwood (Brunt 69′), Berge (Rodwell 69′), Baldock (Slater 69′); C Robinson (Gordon 84′), Sharp (Hackford 80′).

BIRMINGHAM 0-2 LEICESTER

  • Goals: Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall, Marc Albrighton (£5.5m)
  • Assists: Youri Tielemans (£6.5m)

Leicester secured a 2-0 win over Birmingham City with the help of a large number of young players earlier this week.

Jamie Vardy (£10.0m) and Kelechi Iheanacho (£6.0m) were among the biggest names missing while James Maddison (£7.0m), Ricardo Pereira (£6.0m), Jonny Evans (£5.5m), Christian Fuchs (£4.5m) and Daniel Amartey (£4.0m) were all absent through injury.

Following Ben Chilwell‘s (£5.5m) move to Chelsea, Fuchs’ knock and the absence for Luke Thomas (£4.5m) forced Brendan Rodgers to deploy academy midfielder Thakgalo Leshabela at left-back for 60 minutes while James Justin (£4.5m) spent the same length of time in his preferred position on the right-hand side of the Foxes’ defence.

Caglar Söyüncü (£5.5m) and Youri Tielemans (£6.5m) went closest for Leicester in the first half, seeing their efforts drag wide and blocked by the defence – and it was the Belgian who carved out the opening goal in the second period.

He made a driving run through Birmingham’s midfield and played in substitute Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall to score.

Marc Albrighton (£5.5m) netted a rather fortunate second goal for Leicester when he charged down a clearance from goalkeeper Zach Jeacock.

With a raft of changes made for the closing stages, Admiral Muskwe won a penalty but saw his spot-kick saved.

Leicester City XI (4-3-3): Schmeichel (D Ward 46′); Leshabela (Marcal-Madivadua 60′), Söyüncü (D Johnson 60′), Knight (Benkovic 46′), Justin (Daley-Campbell 60′); Tielemans (Fitzhugh 60′), N Mendy (Choudhury 46′), Tavares (Dewsbury-Hall 46′); Gray (Albrighton 46′), Hirst (Muskwe 46′), Barnes (Eppiah 60′).

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  1. WZRD542
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    How does this look ?

    McCarthy (Nyland)
    Gomez, Vinagre, Saliba, Mitchell (Taylor)
    Auba, Salah, Son, (Greenwood ,Gordon)
    Werner, Ings, Carrol

    1. Eze Really?
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      s = standard
      g = good
      b = bad
      d = different
      All my opinion only
      s s
      b s b s g
      s s g g s
      s s d

      1. Pep bites Kun
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        🙂 Always a fan of a new system (and I obviously have too much time at the moment) and this does give a lot of attention to individual players rather than just the squad as a whole.

        If I may make a suggestion to enhance .. Standard & Different could be denoted with +/- to suggest whether it's a positive or negative, in the your own opinion of course

        1. Eze Really?
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Well you can see I have time on my hands too. (smile)
          Standard is "can be expected" "almost template"
          Different is " anything could happen and out of the box"

          1. Pep bites Kun
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Maybe a key or an appendix for notes then 🙂

            1. Eze Really?
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              You are right but I did not want you guys falling asleep reading the fine print. (smile)

              1. Pep bites Kun
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                🙂 I'm asleep from my own post already

        2. Eze Really?
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I must say you 2 "b's" are:
          Gomez will only get CS points and a slight rotation risk taking a spot from Pool.
          Saliba should be a wait and see as he did not get off the bench yesterday. With Mitchel and Taylor you might find yourself with only 2 playing defenders.

          1. Eze Really?
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            He might find himself sorry

          2. Pep bites Kun
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Agree with Gomez. I did get some good points off him last season though - 1 Liv attack + TAA & Gomez. Didn't work after relaunch though and had him benched most of the time :-/

            Yep, watched the game yesterday. I currently have Saliba, but have cash itb so will probably opt for B.Davies. Taylor did well after restart, so I'm hoping he nails a place. I may punt with Taylor/Bur def as I don't (currently) have Pope. Got McCarthy between the sticks which I'm not loving as a set & forget.

            1. Eze Really?
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              I have Dier and taylor will come good IMO. I think the same as he is my keeper too. (Hence standard)

              1. Pep bites Kun
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                There is definitely worse out there than McCarthy. Fixtures are good to begin with and Sou were in form after restart, but home/away is .. unpredictable

                Pope would set me at ease 🙂 but don't have that +1m

    2. One Man
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Interesting. Going without the Pool premium defenders is different. If United sing someone, Greenwood May have to go.

    3. Pep bites Kun
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      FP makes some good points above. Personally I'm waiting for to see how many mins these guys get. I could do with a few 4.0-4.5 defs so I have cash itb to jump on potentials.

      1. Pep bites Kun
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        * mins they get in preseason

  2. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Which Chelsea Spurs combo for GW1 only?

    A) Mount and Son
    B) Ziyech and Alli
    C) Mount and Alli +1m

    1. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B

    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A for me.

    3. Siva Mohan
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A

    4. yousunkmybattleship
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B

    5. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Thanks all - currently on B

  3. Cok3y5murf
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Is Dier really nailed or are people assuming?

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      He's nailed.

      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Sanchez lost his place?

    2. Siva Mohan
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      nailed

  4. Bartowski
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    If you thought of this as a continuation of the season, with a wildcard as if it was January, would you be as keen on bringing in players that had never played in the Prem before?

    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Players like Fernandes?

      1. Bartowski
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Sure, did you bring Fernandez in as soon as he was bought or did you wait and see how good he was?

        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Immediate

    2. BobbyDoesNotLook
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      One thing I promised myself couple of years back was that I will not choose not-PL proven players and most of the time that was the correct choice because of managed minutes during the first games and/or not immediately picking form.

      Werner might be one that breaks the rule since he seems to be first choice and price is reasonable and because both Manc teams are blanking gw1.

  5. Rossaldinho
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    I've been looking at Veltman and Lamptey. Thinking on this site indicates Lamptey is likely to make the right back position his own but I'm not entirely convinced. Brighton bought Veltman for Ajax for £1m and he played in both right back and right centre-back positions for Ajax with an excellent attacking instinct. Whilst I like Lamptey, I have a feeling that Veltman is more nailed particularly as Ben White may be nailed as centre-back. Would appreciate your insight.

    1. Klaren
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      It’s Potter, they’ll probably just get rotated randomly. I don’t see the appeal for any Brighton players. It’s almost the same level of rotation risk with Man City players without the upside potential.

      1. Eze Really?
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        this but i like Lamptey

        1. Klaren
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I like Lamptey and Trossard but after a brief experience owning Maupay last season, I decided to stay away from Brighton’s players as long as Potter is the manager.

          1. Eze Really?
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Yeah. It works for Potter though it seems

    2. Jekori
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I was suprised by the total neglect of the new bought veltman too, i actually steered away from lamptey because of it. However, i don't rate Veltmans attacking contribution. He always was Ajax worst one on the ball and he hasn't got the speed or tricks to go past someone. He did do quite well as centre-back actually and he is decent defensively. But i think Brighton might be going 3 (or 5) at the back and Lamptey might get the nod because he's better going forward, not sure tho so i rather take a 'nailed' kwp.

    3. Flaming Flamingo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Veltman started yesterday in what looked like their first choice team. Ultimately I expect them both to be rotated, it's Potter after all.

  6. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Wolves' pursuit of Ainsley Maitland-Niles looks to be at an end as they now believe Arsenal want to keep him at the Emirates. - Sky Sports

    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Who gave them that idea? Sell sell sell

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      If Sky told me the sky was blue, I'd make sure to triple-check.

    3. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      He played quite yesterday, which maybe persuaded Arsenal their valuation is fair. It's too high.

      1. Jekori
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        You mean quite good? i heard he got MoM but maybe because it was his birthday. If he went to Wolves he'd be an option, not at arsenal sadly fpl wise.

        1. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          quite well

    4. Collie01
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Strengthens Vinagre's appeal again if true.

  7. Kante FC
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    JWP or Pereira?

    JWP on all set pieces and maybe pens but plays fairly deep. SOU likely to score bucketloads.

    Pereira on all set pieces and is likely to be involved in large percentage of WBA goals this season. I expect them to sign a striker to get on the end of his creative play.

    1. R.C
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      JWP - plays for a better team and on pens

      1. Dthinger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        They’re not really a better team.

    2. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      JWP...........

  8. Karan14
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Ryan
    TAA Vinagre Davies
    Salah Auba Ziyech Soucek
    Martial Werner Adams

    (Steer KWP Johnson Bissouma)
    0.0m

    GW2: Salah ➡️ Bruno
    GW3: Auba ➡️ KDB
    Will reinvest the funds from these downgrades in GW4/5.

    Some question marks around Ziyech injury and if Martial will have to self isolate after returning from International Duty.

    Thoughts?

    1. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Pretty good to be fair. Yes i would agree with your plan of transfers. If i was being picky then i would try and get a spurs attacker or upgrade Davies to Doherty

      1. Karan14
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers mate!

        A little tied for cash for those options. All require a million more.

    2. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      All seems perfectly reasonable.

      1. Karan14
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers!

    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Considered doing Ziyech > Alli?

      That's good overall. Not much to critique. Although I'll give the same advice I gave earlier of doing KWP > Justin for rotation reasons.

      GW 1: Vinagre (shu), Davies (EVE)
      GW 2: Davies (eve), Justin (BUR)
      GW 3: Davies (NEW), Vinagre (whu)
      GW 4: Vinagre (FUL), Justin (WHU)

      The rotation between them works amazing for a good while. By which point you will know what to do and can jump on emerging bandwagons or WC.

      1. Karan14
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I'll definitely consider Alli if he looks nailed. But atm I'm just not sure how Mou is going to use him with EL around. Lo Celso could slot in that No 10 role?

        Yes definitely considering Justin need some more news on Periera's return. Ryan & KWP can become McCarthy & Justin.

    4. R.C
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Why Adams over Mitrovic?

      1. Karan14
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        First 5 fixtures, more attacking team and I don't think Mitrovic is even back for pre season yet.

  9. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    A) Ziyech, Alli, Ings
    B) Saka, Son, Vardy

    Currently on B purely for price point reasons. It also is better for targeting the first two weeks alone. But A certainly has merit...

    1. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Saka is not nailled. But i too like B more

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah he's not but probably a worthwhile risk for those two great fixtures.

        1. Z
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          That is true, but the main problem ia that u will not have space and time to change him later

          1. Camzy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            That is true too... He's likely to stay there for a while. The good news with Saka though is that he's extremely versatile. He can play basically anywhere across the midfield or on either wing as well as left back.

            1. Z
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              True...but with this situation about Manchester clubs, mby even some injuries i dont want aditional risk

    2. Siva Mohan
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B

    3. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A

    4. Stockport Hatter
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A due to minutes.

    5. Karan14
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I like A but not Alli.

      Laca, Pepe & Willian returning will impact Saka's mins.

      Son on the wing vs playing as a striker are completely different prospects.

      Ings can match even beat Vardy for 1.5m less imo.

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Why don't you like Alli?

        He's looking really good in preseason. Mourinho has always liked him.

        1. Karan14
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I'm not sure if he's nailed. Look a bit out of favour after Restart but that could be because of injury.
          Lo Celso was playing No 10 and he's not back in training yet.

          Are there more pre season games left?

          1. Camzy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Dunno. But yeah maybe a touch too risky. I most likely won't risk it.

          2. Z
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Lo Celso is more Eriksen, he doesnt have nothing with Ali

          3. Tony Moon
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Alli was injured post restart. Was playing the 10 role when fit, prior to that. I think Lo Celso was just covering and will play deeper, if he's in the team.

    6. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Literally just been fiddling and ended up with B too.

      I keep going hot and cold on Vardy.

      Easy to offload if he has blanked in GW1 and GW2 though....

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        That's one of the best things about him.

        Eyeing something like:

        GW3: Auba + Vardy > KdB + Aguero

        1. kevchenko
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I think I'd have gotten bored on Son for GW4 though too...

          Already too much tinkering?

          1. Camzy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Probably. Son is good for a long while. Even just the MUN game, you can keep him for that and after that he still has a great run of: WHU bur BHA wba

            1. kevchenko
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Maybe - he's just at the bottom of the list of premium midfielders that I want I suppose, but he's in at the moment 🙂

    7. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Last week our teams looked identical.

      I don't have or want any of those 6 players!

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Interesting. Last week I'm pretty sure I had Son and Ziyech already though.

        1. DantheManinaPan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Maybe slightly over a week - I forget the dates.

          Definitely set on no Salah then?

          1. Camzy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Yes. I've picked over Salah based on the Shield. Can always reverse the decision in GW3.

  10. Z
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Van de Beek and MU...it is real. Not done yet ofc

    1. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Would be a canny signing for United, I think. Not going to be a consideration FPL-wise though.

      1. Z
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        No no...it is just a news, not FPL addvice 😉

    2. Jekori
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Him besides Pogba with Fernandes at 10? That is a crazy attacking minded midfield, with 2 box to box players at CM. I'm afraid he'll get priced like 8.0 or something on fpl and he won't get as much forward at ManU as at Ajax.

      1. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Not happening, one of Fred/Matic will play.

        1. Z
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I dont think so. But i think tahat Van de Beek is not they rly need (as u said they have Matic, Fred and McT)

        2. sully29
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Not so sure. VDB isn't a classic #6 (though he has played there in the past and one of the De Boer brothers thought it would ultimately be his best position) but neither is Fred, and the latter was starting ahead of Matic in the EL games.

          I think we'll likely see VDB beside Pogba in that central two in at least some games. Though the real value VDB brings is that he can step in competently in any of United's three midfield slots.

  11. Wensink
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Doherty’s move to Spurs changing anyone’s mind over bringing Vinaigre in?

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      No, still the most nailed player in my team.

    2. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      No its actually starting to change my mind from VVD to doh though

    3. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Yes...when he joined Spurs i took Vinagre and Dier. I think that he will not bring same amount of pts as he could in Wolfs

    4. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      do you think vinagre is nailed ?

      1. Z
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        So far he is

  12. Ser Davos
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    http://www.skysports.com/share/12059808

    Wolves give up on AMN

    1. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      So...3 LB in Arsenal. They could try that 352 from CS. It was decent

      1. R.C
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        AMN can play anywhere and Tierney will be mostly play as a LCB

        1. R.C
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          will mostly*

      2. Bartowski
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        He plays as RB as well.

        1. Z
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          And again...3 RB in Arsenal 😀

          1. Bartowski
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Well no two players for each position and a utility player who can go anywhere. Besides they're trying to sell some of their defender, just not the good ones.

            1. Dthinger
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              They don’t have any good ones

  13. Agger
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Confirmation bias.

  14. Jordan.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    how do you pronounce ziyech

    i thought it would be zy-ek

    im sure the commentator kept saying zooch

    which is correct

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Zee-yesh

      1. Jordan.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        cheers camzy,top man

    2. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      zi-eh (i like italy)

    3. R.C
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      You're right, it's Zi-yeck

      1. R.C
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Nvm it's Ziyesjjjj

    4. Jekori
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      He's half dutch half Moroccan. Camzy is probably right but i can't wait till the commentators butcher it. The dutch version is hard because of the ech sound, like Scheveningen hard to say for non-dutch.

  15. Tasty Jerk
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    hmmm interesting. Apparently from out of nowhere we have just become favourites to sign Rhian Brewster on loan (as long as Luka still takes the pens im ok with this) 😀

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Would he get in over Ayew?

      1. Tasty Jerk
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Dont think it will be instead of. Looks like after our friendly yesterday Roy could favour 4-4-2 with Eze/Zaha wings, with Tekkers out could be Ayew and one other up front.

  16. Craigj28
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    What do you think of my team so far
    Mccarthy, (Button)
    TAA, Vinagre, Justin (Ayling, Douglas)
    Aubameyang, Salah, Saka, Soucek(Armstrong)
    Kane, Adams, Werner
    0.5ITB

  17. beetlejuice
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    I have been using FF Fix for rotation planning but now it is non-free plan. Can anyone recommend me a free rotation planner where I can see the next 5-6 fixtures of my current draft on a table.

    Thanks.

    1. Tony Moon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      See Ben Crellin on Twitter - good spreadsheets.

      1. beetlejuice
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I meant a website that you can synch with your FPL team.

        1. Tony Moon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Fair enough. Easy to make a custom spreadsheet though, from Crellin's, with just your team's fixtures.

  18. Manani
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    what kind of position do soceuk play? Is he only a set piece threat and nothing else?

    1. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Box to box

    2. Eze Really?
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Basically, but now and again he finds space to move into the box.

  19. Gabbiadini
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Martial, Ings and Ziyech
    or.
    Auba/Salah, Greenwood and Che Adams
    ??

    1. Von Lipwig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Hard to go without both Salah and Auba. One of them sure, but could be costly. But if you still have one of them, then I'd say A

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        no. option A is no Auba or Salah

        1. Gabbiadini
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          but there would be KDB.

    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A.

    3. Sad Pablo Arsecobar
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Needs more Arsenal

  20. Von Lipwig
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Ok guys, new plan (possibly)

    With Rash and Foden on the bench, hopefully save GW2 transfer then re-assess GW3 with 2FTs:

    Rams
    Robbo Dier Vinagre KWP
    Salah Son Soucek
    Werner Ings Mitro

    4.0/ Rash Foden 4.0

    Any thoughts?

    1. Sad Pablo Arsecobar
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      needs more arsenal

  21. Stokelona
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Do you rate my team?

    McCarthy
    TAA Robbo VVD Doherty Vinegar
    ASM Son
    Kane Jimenez Vardy

    Button Greenwood Stephens Nakamba

    1. Von Lipwig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I like it tbh. It's ballsy and expects a lot from the liverpool trio. I would pick Ings and Werner over Vardy and Kane though and then spend the extra money on upgrading ASM personally.

      1. KnightSlayer
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Similar to mine Except I have Sheffield instead of wolves at the back

  22. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Afternoon guys,
    Saka or JWP ??

    1. Manani
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      neither?
      Armstrong, Saint both better choice

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Saka

      1. Siva Mohan
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Willian and Pepe will affect Saka game time

    3. Botman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Saka although more prone to rotation.

    4. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      JWP, nailed and on set pieces

  23. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Conor Gallagher could move to West Brom on loan

  24. WorldCupDanB
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    How much do you win if you come first in the Fantasy Football Scout FPL mini league?

  25. Botman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Allan signing makes Digne look more tempting, especially with question marks over Doherty.

  26. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Guys, for GW1 only.......Vardy or Ings

    1. Botman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Ings

  27. KnightSlayer
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Do you think Mitrovic and Ayew will be good enablers for heavy hitters
    Will they make better ones then Soucek , Saka and Armstrong ?

    1. L S P
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      At the moment, I’m going a similar route to enable 3 heavy hitters in the midfield.

      But I think I’ll rejigger to get an 8.5 or maybe Werner into my front line so hoping to settle on this:

      8.5/9.5 - 6.0/6.5 - 4.5

  28. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Anyone going Son + Kane?

    1. Lucky Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Nice Martial + Bruno potential placeholders, exact price. Why not.

  29. Iceball
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    McCarthy (Button)
    TAA Davies Vinagre KWP (Justin)
    Salah Auba Son Soucek (Greenwood)
    Werner Mitrovic (Wickham)
    What do you think? 442 first week, 352 thereafter

  30. socho
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Think i'm happy with the balance:

    Martinez
    Lamptey - Vinagre- Pieters - Lascelles- Justin
    ASM- Salah (c)-Aubameyang-Greenwood-Son
    Vardy-Brewster-Ings

    Open door for B.Fernandes GW2 and Laporte GW3

    No Chelsea is the only worry

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Just get Werner to start.

      Also really not a fan of the defense being that cheap. Would at least get Dier or Davies as an anchor.

      So... Vardy + Lascelles > Werner + Dier.

      1. socho
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Sounds like a really good change. Thanks. I will probably opt for Davies though