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How does Kai Havertz compare with Chelsea’s other FPL attacking assets?

Chelsea have continued their spending spree this summer with the acquisition of one of the most coveted young talents in Europe, Kai Havertz.

The attacking midfielder has signed a five-year deal with the Blues, following in the footsteps of Timo Werner (£9.5m) in moving to west London from the Bundesliga.

Arguably the club’s biggest statement since the signing of Eden Hazard from Lille, the German has been priced up at £8.5m – in a similar bracket to Christian Pulisic (£8.5m) and Hakim Ziyech (£8.0m) – by Fantasy Premier League and has the potential to be a real bargain.

Anyone who dabbled in Fantasy Bundesliga this summer would have been excited by what they saw – including some ‘out of position’ run-outs up front – so we’ll assess his FPL credentials in the article below.

The History and Statistics

YearAppMinsGoalsAssistsShots/gameKey passes/game
2016/17241451451.30.8
2017/18302141381.21.1
2018/193429011732.61
2019/203024621262.22
Average29.52238.89.05.51.81.2

Born in Aachen, Germany in June 1999, Havertz started out in amateur football at just four years of age for Alemannia Mariadorf where his grandfather, Richard, was club chairman. His father was a policeman and mother a lawyer so discipline was something that was impressed upon him at a young age.

It was his grandfather who encouraged him in his younger days, spending time with the youngster knocking down gnomes in the garden with his left foot. Richard’s passing when Havertz was just 10 led the German to join his first professional club, Alemannia Aachen.

He only spent a year with his hometown club, with a hat-trick against Bayer Leverkusen in an 8-3 loss impressing them enough to make them sign the youngster. He was highly sought after by clubs across the country, including Borussia Monchengladbach and Koln, but Leverkusen pulled out all the stops to sign the exciting prospect.

He notched seven goals and two assists over 23 appearances in his first season in the U17-Bundesliga West but the next season was where he really shone.

After scoring 18 goals, he was awarded the silver Fritz Walter Medal in the 2015/16 season after being named the second-best German under-17s player; two years later he won the gold in the under-19s category.

In October 2016, at 17 years and 126 days of age, he became the youngest debutant in Bayer Leverkusen’s history and later became their youngest scorer with a strike against Wolfsburg in April. 

He went on to become the youngest ever player in the Bundesliga to register 50 appearances. Coincidentally, the previous holder of that record was his new Chelsea teammate, Timo Werner. Havertz was also the youngest ever captain of Leverkusen.

After seven goals and 13 assists in his first two seasons, 2018/19 saw him become a household name in Germany with 17 goals from midfield, becoming the first teenager to hit that total in a Bundesliga season.

Nine of Havertz’s 17 goals gave Leverkusen a 1-0 lead and no player in the Bundesliga opened the scoring more frequently that season. Manager Peter Bosz’s attacking philosophy gave him a platform to flourish and he featured in every single game that campaign.

He took three penalties that season, posting an xG of 13.1 and a non-penalty xG of 10.9; this would indicate that he is a good finisher.

“I guess reading the game has always been one of my strengths. A certain composure on the ball and the ability to make the right choices quickly.” – Kai Havertz

Havertz started off the 2019/20 season by becoming the second-youngest player in Bundesliga history to score 25 goals with a strike against Paderborn on the opening day. He went on to register 12 goals and six assists that campaign with an xG of 9.1. Only one of these was a penalty, which meant his non-penalty xG was 8.3. Again, he outperformed his xG significantly and even upped his xA to 6.2.

Over his last three seasons, his non-penalty xG+xA per 90 numbers have been on the rise every year and he averages an expected goal involvement every other game over that period.

“If you can always be one or two steps ahead of your opponent, you can already win the game, and I think that’s just the player he is.” – Leon Bailey, Havertz’s teammate.

Comparison v other Chelsea assets

2019/20Mins/shotMins/SoTMins/KPSoT%Goals/shotGoals/SoT
Abraham25.263.5105.839.80.170.43
Mount25.652.6124.937.20.090.24
Giroud36.89956.348.70.210.42
Pulisic27.46957.540.30.150.36
Werner22.843.95344.90.180.38
Ziyech18.252.220.834.80.070.21
Havertz42.4584143.10.190.44

Unlike Ziyech, Havertz is not a volume shooter who takes a lot of speculative shots from outside the box: his minutes/shot is the lowest in the comparison.

However, a large percentage of the youngster’s efforts are on target (43%), compared to the Moroccan (34.8%). In fact, his goals per shot (0.19) is almost triple that of Ziyech’s (0.07).

What’s even more impressive is that Havertz scores with nearly half of his shots on target (44%) whereas Ziyech is closer to 20%. He even bests Werner, who has goals/shot of 0.18 and goals/shot on target of 0.38.

In terms of creativity, only Ziyech (20.8) created chances more frequently than Havertz (41) last season.

The Prospects

Havertz spent most of the 2019/20 season deployed as a no. 10, also featuring on the right flank and at centre-forward at times. Given that Ziyech’s preferred position is on the right wing and Pulisic has been effective on the left, Lampard is expected to use the German behind his compatriot Werner.

Werner is a very different striker compared to Olivier Giroud (£7.0m) and Tammy Abraham (£7.5m). As we saw briefly in the Brighton friendly, he works a lot more off the ball, similar to Roberto Firmino (£9.5m).

Ruben Loftus-Cheek (£6.0m), who was playing as a no. 10, found himself in the box very often as a result of the German’s link-up play and the 4-3-3 that Lampard prefers shaped up into a 4-2-2-2 in transition. Given Havertz’ goal-scoring instincts, the prospects are mouth-watering, to say the least.

Chelsea were second only to Manchester City for expected goals last season, so creating chances was not a problem and by adding an ice-cold finisher like Havertz to their ranks, the Blues’ goal output should go up significantly this season.

With Havertz having had zero minutes with Chelsea in pre-season due to international involvement with Germany, it is perhaps unlikely that Lampard throws him into the fray straight away against Brighton, with a cameo appearance most likely. His minutes should improve as the weeks go on and he settles in, however.

In terms of injury, he has a good overall fitness record with only the muscle tear he suffered in November 2019 causing him to miss more than 15 days out with injury. He has been unavailable for just six games over the past three seasons due to injury or illness.


Statistics taken from Opta, fbref.com and Whoscored.com

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  1. Canali
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    RMT please, £0 ITB

    McCarthy (Ryan)
    TAA Davies Vinagre (Justin Mitchell)
    Auba Son Ziyech ASM (Foden)
    Werner Ings Mitrovic

    How does it look... not sure about ASM + Foden?

    1. Ron_Swanson
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Vinagre might not make it now they have signed a new LB. I think he probably will but there's doubt there now.

      I don't like ASM personally though he is popular round here.

      I would have Greenwood on the bench over Foden as well. Assuming Sancho hasn't signed by then.

      1. stat sifter 888888
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Ron ASM is the best value mid at that price, considering he's nailed-on, playing in a decent mid-table team and is a more dangerous attacker.

    2. DavidFPL
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      only thing I can say is do you think Ziyech, Benched Foden and Ings will score more points than Salah - mid price striker and bench fodder mid.
      Personally I prefer Salah but really just about your own opinion on Ziyech.

    3. lilmessipran
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Benching headache with that front 8 after gw1?

    4. Pukki Blinders
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Downgrade ASM or Foden to Soucek or Mitro to a 4.5 and spread the funds

  2. R.C
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Any news on Pulisic?

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      At this point unlikely to play.

    2. Top 210 Club
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Probably ready by gw 3-4

  3. DavidFPL
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    RMT

    McCarthy
    Doherty Robertson KWP
    Son Auba Salah Soucek
    Mitro Werner Antonio

    Nyland Vinagre Stephens Mitchell

    Feel ok about double Sou defence, Trent probably worth the extra 0.5 but don't wanna downgrade Son or Doherty and think they will more than cover the difference I lose by having Robertson over TAA for first couple of weeks.
    Have previously not had Mitro for non playing striker to have decent 5th mid but think i prefer Mitro to any of the low price mids especially now that Traore has been pulled for Corona.
    All my fodder players start GW 1 in theory which I like but in reality their price is the only reason I have them.
    Not interested in Chelsea mids as too much uncertainty about who will start.
    Any obvious switches? 0.0 itb

    1. beric
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Isnt traore back now?

      1. DavidFPL
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        was pulled out of Spain squad again last night for testing positive.

        1. Think
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          You have two whu attackers with those fixtures is surprising.

    2. stat sifter 888888
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      KWP did nothing last year but might be worth a punt.

  4. JustPark
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Slightly off topic but should I be following anfieldexpress on twitter?

    1. Ron_Swanson
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I think he stopped posting the line ups in the end

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      He was the Liverpool no.3 goalie. Moved to Leicester so no tips re Liverpool anymore.

  5. Ask Yourself
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Regardless if Soucek can play GW1 or not I would expect noble to carry on starting in the 10 role instead of Haller partnering Antonio. We finished the season so strongly this way so I doubt moyes would want to change much rightly or wrongly. Basically I’m saying noble can be a sound pick if you must have a 5m WHU mid

    1. jimmyabs1987
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Is noble still on Pen?

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        No

      2. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yes

    2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Will Antonio and Haller both play up top?

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        This is what I’m saying. To start with I would expect this:

        Antonio
        Fornals Noble Bowen
        Rice Soucek

        1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Thanks! I'm considering a double up for GW1 with Bowen and Antonio if that is the case. Crazy?

          1. Ask Yourself
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            If you’re on a WCGW2 I would definitely approve of those picks. Best two available in the team

            1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              I am. Tyvm!

      2. ilikewud
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I don't think they will both play up top. I could see them both starting but Antonio out wide.

    3. lilmessipran
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Really? Thought Haller has been performing really well in the friendlies, he starts with Antonio uptop? Or a 4-4-1-1?

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        He only did well because Diangana set up all three of his goals and now we sold him. Antonio being fit probably delays his opportunity to start

    4. Kante FC
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Was thinking the same. Noble still on pens too I think and he picked up a couple of assists playing as a cam post lockdown too. Potential to be a sound pick as you said.

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Noble is not on pens anymore

        1. Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Yes he is

        2. asquishypotato
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          He really is, just have a look at the quotes - it was a nice gesture to give Antonio the pen, not a permanent decision.

        3. Nightcrawler
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Ok apologies didnt know that thank u

    5. Nightcrawler
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      is antonio nailed on?

      1. Soto Ayam
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yes

      2. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yes he is, for now. In most circumstances he usually follows a purple patch by going through a period where his second touch is always a tackle but we have Haller to fill in in case of that.

        1. Nightcrawler
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Oj thank u

    6. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Noble is one of the worst midfielders in the league, allow it

      1. Soto Ayam
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        He's cheap, is on pens, perfect placeholder for soucek, Newcastle at home for gw1

        1. ilikewud
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Why would I ever place hold for Soucek. If you go with Noble off the jump there is no way you're making the sideways transfer to Soucek.

      2. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I hate it even more than you do, believe me. Guaranteed 2/10 every game. Unfortunately given the circumstances and people’s desire to have a Soucek filler, he could have something to contribute

    7. Pukki Blinders
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      So you're saying Noble is nailed?

    8. GoonSquad
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Too many red cards for Noble...guaranteed a -2 GW and someone like Auba doesn't play and he auto-subs in.

    9. stat sifter 888888
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      West Ham are a team that will not do well this year. I would avoid them completely if you could.

  6. Nightcrawler
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Cant see myself changing this team unless there is some unexpected news

    Mcarthy

    Johnson dier egan TAA Robbo

    ASM Smallbone salah auba son

    Mitrovic davis wenrer

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Looks strong

    2. Ron_Swanson
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      not a fan of the random non-capitalization of names, misspellings and bench players in among the starters

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        That was deliberate : lol;

      2. ilikewud
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Damn Ron.

  7. FPL Blow-In
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Ceballos is tempting over Soucek now @ 5m. Was full sure he would be 5.5

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Yep

      After getting 2 assists in 1,600 minutes I don’t know what they were thinking

      1. ilikewud
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        LOL

      2. FPL Blow-In
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Arsenal as a whole are improving though. He could easily do much better than that.

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          He made 24 league appearances last season

          He blanked in 23 of them

          ...

  8. The-Red-1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Rashford Ings

    Or Son Martial (with a potential switch from Son to a Chelsea mid later down the line)?

  9. The Sarjeant
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    5th defender options:

    A) Ferguson - long term gamble, keep 0.5 in the bank.
    B) Saliba - gamble on him being an option.
    C) Spend my 0.5 leftover to get cover for COVID/rotations.

    1. n-doggg
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I think it’s generally wise to try and set up a defence that you don’t have to change to transfers can be focussed on attacking options. With that, either a 4.0 you are playing as 3rd sub, or b. Saliba bit of an unknown quantity with new signing

      1. The Sarjeant
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Trouble is (and I should’ve mentioned it) I’m playing 352, so unless Brewster gets a loan, I’d only have one nailed player on the bench.

    2. Hog Roast Junkie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A

  10. HellasLEAF
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Pick two 4.5's:

    Vinagre
    Walker-Peters
    Taylor
    Justin

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Vinagre
      KWP

      1. The Sarjeant
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I’d probably go with the same.

      2. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        This

        1. n-doggg
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Heard that vinagre places at risk with new signing?

    2. HellasLEAF
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Actually would say Vinagre almost a given. Two after Vinagre:

      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        They signed a new LB

    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Depends on your rotation.

    4. antis0cial
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Vinagre & KWP

      1. HellasLEAF
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks gents cheers

    5. Hog Roast Junkie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Vin and KWP

  11. R.C
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Captaincy

    Salah v Auba

    Salah has the stats but Auba has the form, so surely it has to be Auba?

    1. n-doggg
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Salah loves a home game, only thing holding me back

    2. antis0cial
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I’ve been on Salah since first draft but his form is not inspiring and Auba is on fire so tempted to switch to Auba.

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Auba

    4. The Mighty Hippo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Salah playing at home is the only thing that makes me consider giving him the captaincy over Auba

    5. ilikewud
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I've had it on Salah the whole time, I'm going to switch it to Auba last minute and then Salah will explode. Typical start for me.

    6. HellasLEAF
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Salah

  12. Jordan.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    latest go

    ryan

    doherty / trent / robertson

    ceballos /asm / son / (a)ubameyang / pereira

    adams / vardy

    walton / taylor / mitchell / martial

    1. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I don’t like that midfield at all.

      1. Jordan.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        no me neither looking at it

        1. ilikewud
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          lol

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Who is he ? x

  13. n-doggg
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    DCL strikes me as good value with great fixtures. Surely worth the extra 1.0 over mitrovic

    1. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I’ve gone completely off of Mitrovic. I’ve got DCL.

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Thinking same

    2. ilikewud
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Can't afford it but I agree.

    3. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I'm with DCL too - I think I'll end up getting frustrated with him and getting rid before he goes on a decent scoring run haha

  14. Ser Davos
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    I suspect a lot of it will come down to having two or three premium mid slots.

    Undecided atm on which way to head. Have two and target the FTs on those two slots with a reasonably setted team elsewhere or have three and it’ll still be an area which requires transfers and ultimately relying on 4.5s elsewhere

    1. n-doggg
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Yep, for me decision now coming down to 2nd striker and 4th/5th mid slot

    2. FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I agree. I’ve had 3 12m mids for quite awhile now and although it does look like the rest of the team is weakened due to it, it allows me the flexibility to jump on people quickly with ease.

      1. Ser Davos
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        If it wasn’t for Salah looking so out of it, I’d have him alongside Mane and Auba and then reassess as we go along

        But

        The potential sets of Werner Ings Saiss and Doherty for medium term value seem more prudent

        1. FPL Blow-In
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I currently have Salah, Mane and Auba but I agree, losing Salah and brining in Werner etc is tempting. FOMO is terrible though.

    3. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I have 1 😛

  15. antis0cial
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Getting closer to final draft. Opinions please? Havertz too risky gw1?

    McCarthy
    TAA Doherty Davies Vinagre
    Salah Auba Havertz Soucek
    Werner Ings

    Steer Mitchel Bissouma Brewster

    1. Pukki Blinders
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Prepared for Mitchell and Bissouma to possibly come on for Havertz and Soucek if they don't play?

      1. antis0cial
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        That would be a worst case scenario. Even if havertz doesn’t start I can’t imagine he gets zero minutes. I’m tempted to put placeholder in but need utd/city assets moving in in coming weeks.

        1. Pukki Blinders
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I'm in the same situation... I want Havertz but if I don't get him in now then who knows when I'll bring him in

          1. antis0cial
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Yeah he could well start, but if he doesn’t it’s pool next which wouldn’t be a great start. But if I wait, I will want Utd player in gw2 and city player gw3, so would either have to take a hit or leave till at least gw4.

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Think I would go Son as place holder over Havertz or Pulisic week 1 with Davies to KWP or Justin-

      1. antis0cial
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks, I guess that’s the safe option. Just makes it hard to get United / City and Chelsea mid in for the coming weeks.

  16. The Frenchie
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Hey guys, what do you think about my team?

    McCarthy
    Alexander-Arnold / Van Dijk / Walker-Peters / Justin
    Salah (c) / Aubameyang (vc) / Son / Saint-Maximin
    Ings / Calvert-Levin

    Nyland / Dallas / Stephens / Davis

    GW2: Bruno Fernandes --> Son
    GW3: De Bruyne --> Aubameyang

    1. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Nice team!

    2. ilikewud
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      LEI signed Castagne - not sure what that means for Justins playing time.

    3. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Arrows very confusing

  17. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    With McCarthy being my set and forget keeper and KWP being touted as good 4.5 m defender option would you replace any of following defenders with him and double up Southampton defence?

    TAA Dier Vinagre Taylor Justin

    1. Pukki Blinders
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Yes Justin

    2. Top 210 Club
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Wolves singed a new lb so maybe vinegre

  18. kevchenko
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    I keep fiddling.

    McCarthy (Button)
    TAA, Doherty, Mitchell (Dallas, C.Taylor)
    Auba, Saka, Alli, Havertz, Soucek
    DCL, Vardy (Martial)

    I'm not scared about Salah for a week, I would try NO TRANSFER for GW2, leaving me a mini wildcard (-4) to do whatever I need to do regarding Man City (and whoever)... from GW3 onwards....

    3-4-3 in the second week with Soucek and Mitchell benched for Martial and Dallas...

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      No interest in Havertz to start the season. 2 weeks to assess Chelsea boys.

      1. kevchenko
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        "No interest" just isn't true is it, you'll be watching with great interest 🙂

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          "To start the season"

          But yes, I will be watching with great interest 😀

          1. kevchenko
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Haha, absolutely 🙂

            He's so exciting, I'm pretty sure I'll have a double Chelsea (maybe triple) from fairly early on.

            Unfortunately, I conceed that you are right and waiting until GW3 does seem the most sensible option.

    2. Hattrick Harry
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Salah’s been complete pants, forget him

      1. ilikewud
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Salah='pants' guess we're just ignoring his points from the last 3 seasons 303, 259, 233.

        1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          ‘In decline’

          1. ilikewud
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            lol

        2. Hattrick Harry
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          If salah can get 200p but in clear decline = pants

          1. ilikewud
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            That sentence was rough, you wanna try again?

  19. Pukki Blinders
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    What's with the panic around Marcal taking Vinagre's place? The man is 31 years old and has been playing centre bank in a back 5 for Lyon... why would he take the spot of Vinagre at LWB?

    1. Pacer.
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      There is no panic.

      People have just correctly recognised that it's unwise to have a 4.5 in your first X1 and trash on the bench when a Champions League player arrives at the club

      1. Pukki Blinders
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Having a solid bench is wise, yes. But champions league player used quite loosely there

    2. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      His main position is LB dude

      1. Pukki Blinders
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah LB... Wolves system treats the LWB position as more a LM position than a LB position. Vinagre is much more suited

        1. Z
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Oke...if Marcal arrive, Vinagre is out for me. You can try and keep him. Gl

    3. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Exactly

  20. Champions League Varane
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Ayling or Dallas?

    And would you say C.Taylor and Vinagre is nailed for the first 4 weeks?

    1. Third Eye Vision
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      You can be pretty certain Taylor will miss the first game.

      1. Champions League Varane
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Correct. But after that

    2. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Ayling. Same number of returns in way less games

      1. Champions League Varane
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Oh.. surprising! Thanks

    3. Hattrick Harry
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Ayling plays like playmaker and will get a lot more points than Dallas

  21. Z
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Ziyech injury status?

    1. Third Eye Vision
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I’ve been asking this, but no replies.

    2. Hattrick Harry
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Ziyech is fine and start in Brighton

  22. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    A) Salah, Soucek, Doherty
    B) Dier, Alli, Werner

    Currently on A but B is tempting. I have Son already as well.

    1. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Can u make Alli into Son?

      1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        He has Son already

    2. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A to start with for me

    3. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Well you have "no interest" in Chelsea do you... so A?

    4. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Prefer B

    5. Pukki Blinders
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B but your no interest in Chelsea policy goes against that 😛

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I never said I had no interest in Chelsea. Just temper it with GW3 will be when I decide to get them.

    6. jimmyabs1987
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A

  23. sirmorbach
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Feel like Havertz is severly underpriced. It's a shame really I'm concerned about whether he plays GW1 or not.

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      It's easy... Wait until GW3.

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I’m back on WCGW3 lol. How you looking atm?

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Just got back from hiatus. Excited to tinker for another week 🙂

          1. Ask Yourself
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Same m, I returned to find I was right the whole time about WCGW3 x

    2. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I think that he will need one year to adapt. Werner and Ziyech are much better options

      1. Ron_Swanson
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I think Havertz looks the much better option than Ziyech. I don’t think he will start GW1 but he will be in my team shortly after thaf

      2. Pukki Blinders
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Why would Havertz need a year but Werner and Ziyech settle in that easily?

        1. Z
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Because all players are different!

        2. stat sifter 888888
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Werner and Ziyech have been training at Chelsea for months and they knew where they were going for months before that. Havertz arrived yesterday and has much less time to get up to speed lol.

    3. stat sifter 888888
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Not really, most goals this year will come from that front 3.

  24. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Which defenders are nailed on in Arsenal?

    1. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Tierney and......

      Ummmmm

      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Exactly, hah

    2. Duffers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Yeah Tierney safest bet. Then probably Bellerin but Maitland Niles pushing him.

      Wait and see on centre backs. Tbh not even sure what the system will be. might see a back four if arteta is confident with saliba/gabriel or if not will be back 3 with wingbacks initially which was working well post lockdown

      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Thank you!

    3. stat sifter 888888
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Arsenal defence is and will always be a shambles. They will always capitulate to weaker but more disciplined and aggressive teams.

  25. Bobby Digital
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    No captain poll?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Okay here you go:
      Salah

      1. Bobby Digital
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers

      2. Pukki Blinders
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        An out of shape and out of form Salah? I'll pass

      3. Hattrick Harry
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Salah is pants

    2. Third Eye Vision
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Auba.

      1. Third Eye Vision
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        50% Salah
        50% Auba

        Hope this helps.

    3. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Auba?
      Salah?
      Mane?
      Vardy?
      Werner?

  26. Andy_Social
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Neco! Nice one my son 🙂

  27. NULL-X-VOID
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    4.5 playing mids?

    1. Hog Roast Junkie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      None guaranteed starters but Bissouma, Gordon, Stephens should get minutes

  28. Think
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    WC front 7
    KDB Bruno Son Havertz
    Werner Inte Mitrovic

    1. Think
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Ings (hate auto correct)

    2. ilikewud
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      You can pretty much have this front 7 from the start and us two transfers to bring in KDB and Bruno, don't think you need to WC to get there.

    3. Pukki Blinders
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Why's WC needed for that?

      1. ilikewud
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        This

  29. hewittj1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Does anyone know who started in goal for Villa vs Arsenal? I have checked many sources but unable to find currently