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How does Kai Havertz compare with Chelsea’s other FPL attacking assets?

Chelsea have continued their spending spree this summer with the acquisition of one of the most coveted young talents in Europe, Kai Havertz.

The attacking midfielder has signed a five-year deal with the Blues, following in the footsteps of Timo Werner (£9.5m) in moving to west London from the Bundesliga.

Arguably the club’s biggest statement since the signing of Eden Hazard from Lille, the German has been priced up at £8.5m – in a similar bracket to Christian Pulisic (£8.5m) and Hakim Ziyech (£8.0m) – by Fantasy Premier League and has the potential to be a real bargain.

Anyone who dabbled in Fantasy Bundesliga this summer would have been excited by what they saw – including some ‘out of position’ run-outs up front – so we’ll assess his FPL credentials in the article below.

The History and Statistics

YearAppMinsGoalsAssistsShots/gameKey passes/game
2016/17241451451.30.8
2017/18302141381.21.1
2018/193429011732.61
2019/203024621262.22
Average29.52238.89.05.51.81.2

Born in Aachen, Germany in June 1999, Havertz started out in amateur football at just four years of age for Alemannia Mariadorf where his grandfather, Richard, was club chairman. His father was a policeman and mother a lawyer so discipline was something that was impressed upon him at a young age.

It was his grandfather who encouraged him in his younger days, spending time with the youngster knocking down gnomes in the garden with his left foot. Richard’s passing when Havertz was just 10 led the German to join his first professional club, Alemannia Aachen.

He only spent a year with his hometown club, with a hat-trick against Bayer Leverkusen in an 8-3 loss impressing them enough to make them sign the youngster. He was highly sought after by clubs across the country, including Borussia Monchengladbach and Koln, but Leverkusen pulled out all the stops to sign the exciting prospect.

He notched seven goals and two assists over 23 appearances in his first season in the U17-Bundesliga West but the next season was where he really shone.

After scoring 18 goals, he was awarded the silver Fritz Walter Medal in the 2015/16 season after being named the second-best German under-17s player; two years later he won the gold in the under-19s category.

In October 2016, at 17 years and 126 days of age, he became the youngest debutant in Bayer Leverkusen’s history and later became their youngest scorer with a strike against Wolfsburg in April. 

He went on to become the youngest ever player in the Bundesliga to register 50 appearances. Coincidentally, the previous holder of that record was his new Chelsea teammate, Timo Werner. Havertz was also the youngest ever captain of Leverkusen.

After seven goals and 13 assists in his first two seasons, 2018/19 saw him become a household name in Germany with 17 goals from midfield, becoming the first teenager to hit that total in a Bundesliga season.

Nine of Havertz’s 17 goals gave Leverkusen a 1-0 lead and no player in the Bundesliga opened the scoring more frequently that season. Manager Peter Bosz’s attacking philosophy gave him a platform to flourish and he featured in every single game that campaign.

He took three penalties that season, posting an xG of 13.1 and a non-penalty xG of 10.9; this would indicate that he is a good finisher.

“I guess reading the game has always been one of my strengths. A certain composure on the ball and the ability to make the right choices quickly.” – Kai Havertz

Havertz started off the 2019/20 season by becoming the second-youngest player in Bundesliga history to score 25 goals with a strike against Paderborn on the opening day. He went on to register 12 goals and six assists that campaign with an xG of 9.1. Only one of these was a penalty, which meant his non-penalty xG was 8.3. Again, he outperformed his xG significantly and even upped his xA to 6.2.

Over his last three seasons, his non-penalty xG+xA per 90 numbers have been on the rise every year and he averages an expected goal involvement every other game over that period.

“If you can always be one or two steps ahead of your opponent, you can already win the game, and I think that’s just the player he is.” – Leon Bailey, Havertz’s teammate.

Comparison v other Chelsea assets

2019/20Mins/shotMins/SoTMins/KPSoT%Goals/shotGoals/SoT
Abraham25.263.5105.839.80.170.43
Mount25.652.6124.937.20.090.24
Giroud36.89956.348.70.210.42
Pulisic27.46957.540.30.150.36
Werner22.843.95344.90.180.38
Ziyech18.252.220.834.80.070.21
Havertz42.4584143.10.190.44

Unlike Ziyech, Havertz is not a volume shooter who takes a lot of speculative shots from outside the box: his minutes/shot is the lowest in the comparison.

However, a large percentage of the youngster’s efforts are on target (43%), compared to the Moroccan (34.8%). In fact, his goals per shot (0.19) is almost triple that of Ziyech’s (0.07).

What’s even more impressive is that Havertz scores with nearly half of his shots on target (44%) whereas Ziyech is closer to 20%. He even bests Werner, who has goals/shot of 0.18 and goals/shot on target of 0.38.

In terms of creativity, only Ziyech (20.8) created chances more frequently than Havertz (41) last season.

The Prospects

Havertz spent most of the 2019/20 season deployed as a no. 10, also featuring on the right flank and at centre-forward at times. Given that Ziyech’s preferred position is on the right wing and Pulisic has been effective on the left, Lampard is expected to use the German behind his compatriot Werner.

Werner is a very different striker compared to Olivier Giroud (£7.0m) and Tammy Abraham (£7.5m). As we saw briefly in the Brighton friendly, he works a lot more off the ball, similar to Roberto Firmino (£9.5m).

Ruben Loftus-Cheek (£6.0m), who was playing as a no. 10, found himself in the box very often as a result of the German’s link-up play and the 4-3-3 that Lampard prefers shaped up into a 4-2-2-2 in transition. Given Havertz’ goal-scoring instincts, the prospects are mouth-watering, to say the least.

Chelsea were second only to Manchester City for expected goals last season, so creating chances was not a problem and by adding an ice-cold finisher like Havertz to their ranks, the Blues’ goal output should go up significantly this season.

With Havertz having had zero minutes with Chelsea in pre-season due to international involvement with Germany, it is perhaps unlikely that Lampard throws him into the fray straight away against Brighton, with a cameo appearance most likely. His minutes should improve as the weeks go on and he settles in, however.

In terms of injury, he has a good overall fitness record with only the muscle tear he suffered in November 2019 causing him to miss more than 15 days out with injury. He has been unavailable for just six games over the past three seasons due to injury or illness.


Statistics taken from Opta, fbref.com and Whoscored.com

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3,521 Comments Post a Comment
  1. R.C
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Looks like Mount will play ahead of Kovacic, right?

    1. Jonesfromthere
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Doubt it, I think Mount is gonna be a bench boy mostly.

    2. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Kovacic is Chelsea's best midfielder.

      1. R.C
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah that was last season. But this season Mount will play ahead of him. Just would like to get reassurance from Chelsea fans, hence the post.

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Mount is going to have to try and displace someone else.

          1. R.C
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            I guess you'll agree when you see him play No.8 this season

        2. Pep bites Kun
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          1 goal & 5 assists over the last 2 seasons. Leaving out Mount - what makes Kovacic special this season?

    3. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      As in, further up the field?

      Kovacic and Kante are nailed on to start when fit aren't they?

      1. R.C
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        8 and No I don't think so

        1. kevchenko
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Kovacic, Kante
          Ziyech, Havertz, Pulisic
          Werner

          Mount isn't getting in that team if everyone is fit.....

          1. R.C
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Kante, Mount
            Ziyech, Havertz, Pulisic
            Werner

            1. kevchenko
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              That isn't Mount's position though?

              1. R.C
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                No.8 is his preferred position

                1. kevchenko
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  “I always see myself as a No.8 because I like to do the other side of the game as well, not just going forward and attacking,” the 21-year-old said. “I’ve played No.10 throughout my career, I’ve always gone in between so I don’t mind now.”

                  Fair nuff.

                  I still don't think he'll get in ahead of Kovacic though. I wouldn't want any no.8 for any team, in the FPL....

                  1. R.C
                    • 6 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Well not for FPL but this is to understand how the Chelsea system will work

                    1. kevchenko
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      The original post was just asking who will play between the two....

                      I think Kovacic....

                      The system won't be affected will it?

                      It's a very nice set-up, I hope they have a big year.

    4. Hiroku
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I think Kovacic is nailed to start every week atm. Mount could start GW1 depending on who else plays.

    5. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Kante Kovacic
      Ziyech Havertz Pulisic
      Werner

      When thay are all rdy...on the bech Mount, Jorginho, Odoi, Abraham, Giroud....and ofc they will all rotate with starting XI

      1. R.C
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Kante, Mount
        Ziyech, Havertz, Pulisic
        Werner

        1. Aztec Kamara
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          No way will Mount be starting there over Kovacic - just not his position. I think he will play GW1 over 1 of Hav/Ziy/Pul, and will still play lots over the season, but realistically he’s probably 4th place for 3 slots so not a nailed starter by any means,

          1. R.C
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            No.8 is Mount's preferred position

            1. Z
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Surr sure hahahahha

            2. Silecro
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              It seems that you subjectively really want Mount to play over Kovacic without any real life proof to back you up.
              As a long time Chelsea supporter, I assure you that Chelsea Player of the Year (Kovacic) will be ahead of Mount as long as he is fit.
              Hell, even Loftus Cheek is in contention.

              1. R.C
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                “I always see myself as a No.8 because I like to do the other side of the game as well, not just going forward and attacking,” the 21-year-old said. “I’ve played No.10 throughout my career, I’ve always gone in between so I don’t mind now.”

                1. Z
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Dude....i am CFC fan more then 15 years.
                  Trust me....there is no space for Mount right now

                2. Abraham seed
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Can make yourself believe whatever you want, but everyone already told you, mount is definitely not starting this season. Kovacic is better in his position than mount and he offers more defensively, which Chelsea really needs for that position.

                3. The Train Driver
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Just repeat it enough times and it may happen...

  2. Fer Fuch's Ake
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Who will be the starter goalie at Wes Brom? Button or Johnstone?

    1. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      The latter....

      Button said he knows Sam J will start the season.....

    2. Dthinger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Did button get sold to West Brom?

      1. kevchenko
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yes......

        "I have ambitions of playing and helping the team as much as possible," said Button.

        "I obviously understand that Sam (Johnstone) has got them promoted last season so he will start the season."

  3. Ask Yourself
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Jesus. I just made a team as if I were to WCGW3 yeah. Jesus. It’s so good. I’m a genius. What a strategy.

    1. ilikewud
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      neat

    2. yousunkmybattleship
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Congrats

    3. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      'Walks on water'

    4. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Did you factor in price rises for likely players?

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        No :/

  4. anish10
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Saka or ASM?

    1. Ron_Swanson
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Saka

    2. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Saka is worth the gamble IMO

    3. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Dodge Saka.....very high rotation risk

    4. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Saka

  5. FPL Blow-In
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Thoughts on this lot? I know most folks on here don’t like the idea of benching too much money but I’m trying to save future transfers.

    Johnstone
    Doherty, Tierney, Egan, Vinagre
    Salah, Auba, Son, Armstrong, Soucek
    Ings

    Button, Martial, Lindleof, Davis/Brewster

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      In an ideal scenario I’d be looking at

      Gw2 Salah-> Bruno
      Gw3 Auba-> Kdb
      Gw4 Tierney-> TAA

      1. kevchenko
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I think needing to get TAA in is dangerous - if that gets delayed you could really be playing catch up?

        I also don't like Lindelof at all - the best you can hope for is a clean sheet from him, I'd try and find out if Shaw is fit then at least you have attacking return potential?

        1. FPL Blow-In
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          If we get any indication of Shaw being fully fit, he will be there ahead of Lindleof, yes.

      2. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Zero chance that you’ll get 2 million from those two transfers over 2 weeks

        1. FPL Blow-In
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I wouldn’t say zero chance to be fair. Salah to Bruno should be fine if I do early. Kdb having Wolves away will hopefully slow down a price rise but again could do early. I don’t normally like early transfere though

      3. DantheManinaPan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        That plan is not going to work.

        The start of the season is going to through spanners around everywhere

        1. DantheManinaPan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          throw, dear me

          1. FPL Blow-In
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            No harm in having a plan in mind though. Of course you are probably right but that is why I said in an ideal scenario.

          2. domadilla
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            +1

    2. FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Jaysus you’re all very negative on here, like you can predict what is going to happen 😉

      1. domadilla
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

  6. THFC4LIFE
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Wolves on the verge of signing left wing back Marcal from Lyon

    Vinagre no longer an option for me

    1. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Seen that.

      Sadly, looks to be the case!

      Actually, maybe it isn't so sad... It makes the game harder and therefore better. At the moment you'd be silly not to have him!

    2. Hiroku
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Haven't watched many Lyon games but I've heard he has been used mostly as a LCB for them lately. He's also quite old and (from what I can remember seeing from him, admittedly very long ago) not very good. Maybe Nuno intends to use him as a rotation option for Saiss.

    3. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      He made 11 appearances last season - back up

    4. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Back up

    5. The Mighty Hippo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      He plays as a LCB, so he's more likely to challenge Saiss.

    6. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Thanks all, maybe I’ll keep Vinagre

    7. Pukki Blinders
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Illogical thinking

  7. Tshelby
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Don't really know which goalie I should pick this season? Anyone with a 5.0+ goalie? Pickford? Pope?

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Ryan Walton

    2. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Pope is 5.5m which combined with missing GW1 means you'd be bonkers to pick him....

      Pickford and Ramsdale the only moderately interesting ones, but the options at 4.5m are no worse so I'd prefer the extra 0.5m for the rest of the side....

    3. Jonesfromthere
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Pickford, that’s funny. Most people are going 4.5 but Ramsdale looks the best 5

    4. Dthinger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Leno if he starts

  8. R.C
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Callum Wilson has just arrived into Newcastle ahead of his £20m move from Bournemouth. The England striker flew up from the south coast to Tyneside in Mike Ashley’s private helicopter Helicopter
    He’s set for his medical tomorrow Man health worker

    @Fabri retweet

    1. R.C
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      yikes ignore ''Man Health Worker" lol

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Annoying when your search bar gets caught up in the copy and paste

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      ASM IN then 😮

    3. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Is Mike Ashley's helicopter named Helicopter?

      1. R.C
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Uh no lol ignore that, it's an emoji

  9. pakornk
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Son or not to Son?

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Depends on balance of rest of team

    2. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Son

  10. Flair
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Interested to see how much Mitro's price will have fallen after his 1 goal in 5 games with 27.7% ownership

    1. Jonesfromthere
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Yup much prefer Che

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      He’s down to 27.7% ?

      1. R.C
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Lol surprised it's down from 31%

    3. Dr. Rog
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Biggest problem for him will be nketiah or batsu getting starts (or loans). Either that or Maupay, wood, Antonio and possibly Wilson firing.

    4. domadilla
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      His second game is Leeds and third is Aston Villa. He needs to net in one of those games to keep his ownership faithful.

  11. Gunn Burn Mee Hause
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    What changes would you make to this lot?

    McCarthy / Ryan
    TAA / WanBis / Walker-P / Vinagre / Webster
    Salah / Son / Havertz / Ward-P / Saint-M
    Werner / Ayew / Mitrovic

    Thanks

    1. Gunn Burn Mee Hause
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Also do I get points for team name?

      1. Z
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I wouldnt risk with Harvetz GW1...especialy when you have Werner

      2. kevchenko
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Just got it, very good.

      3. FPL Blow-In
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        You are cold?

    2. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Wouldn't want rotating 4.5m keepers - just pick one.

      A bit too much rotating would be going on, having to leave out one of your attackers every week? You'll likely end up with a haul from a benched player every week and that gets frustrating.

      No glaring errors with any of the picks though....

  12. R.C
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    This is season is by far the best exciting start to FPL ever!

    City, United and Burnley blank + Chelsea unknowns + Bielsa's Leeds

    1. Good Times
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Can't be as exciting as Drogba, Ronaldo, Henry, lamps, Gerrard, rooney options now can it hehe =P

      1. R.C
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Ah possibly but I didn't play FPL that time lol

        1. Good Times
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Just messing around, every season start is exciting! Good luck!

      2. R.C
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        But the thing is this season is more complex than that one mainly due to the GW1 blank - unprecedented

        1. Good Times
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Yes for sure volume of wildcards used shall be higher i reckon!

          1. R.C
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Plus I think this is the first season where the transfer activity will be open till GW4?

            So I should be adding this to the list as well

    2. el polako
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      + LFC in decline since Watford trahsed them.

      1. R.C
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        That has not happened yet (only seen lil signs) else I would've added that

  13. Good Times
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    I know Barnes receiving love here, but how is Zaha looking in that price point as an option? Almost being a devils advocate would love some inputs for him being an option

    1. Dr. Rog
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      If he plays upfront he is the best 7 mid in the game. If he goes to Everton it will be terrible.

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I’d wait for week 5 or Bats to come on loan

      Looked sharp in preseason but formation could change when central mids return and he’s at his best when he has someone to feed and feed off

      That said Palace were playing much more progressively in preseason and he’s a fair punt and possible placeholder plus 1.5 for a Chelsea mid.

  14. el polako
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Since the transfers window is open after PL starts, should we all brace ourselfs for early WC ? Plan for first weeks and then pull the trigger ?
    Clubs like United or City should they underperform in first games are likely to splash some real cash for reinforcements.

    1. Good Times
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Always has been the case for me anyway, some premiums looking better than others in the eye test, budget options opening etc. Those early price rises give a rush of some kind I'll admit

    2. Pacer.
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Nobody wants to WC for trash players, so judging by the number of trash players in a lot of squads, expect painful hits or value losses

    3. WALOR
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I am expecting to WC near Transfer deadline, given abbreviated pre-season and radical transformation of Chelsea, for instance.
      Also GW16 cutoff makes saving WC less necessary.

  15. stat sifter 888888
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Rmt please:

    McCarthy
    Dier/Robbo/Justin//Vinagre/4.0
    Mane/Auba/Barnes/ASM//4.5
    Werner/Ings/DCL

    0.5 itb to swap Ings for Martial GW2 and Auba will get moved on for KDB or Sterling GW3 most likely. DCL is a punt but 13 goals last year with a worse team. If Rich shows signs of being the main man again I will probably look a bit lower at Wood/Adams etc.

    1. Dr. Rog
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Tough to bring in Chelsea mids
      Also taa could hurt you

  16. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Soucek COVID test was negative. Has there been any update if he plays GW1 ?? No flag .....

  17. WALOR
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Who gets more minutes, next 6 Gameweeks:
    Minamino
    or
    Bergwijn?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Struggle posts

    2. jimmyabs1987
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Berg 100%

      1. WALOR
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers Jimmy!

  18. Dr. Rog
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Settling down now

    West Brom
    TAA Doherty Davies vinegar (Mitch)
    Auba Bruno alli (soucek, biss)
    Werner Ings Mitro
    0,5m stashed

    Few nigglers
    A) Doherty or Digne
    B) vinegar, saliba or keep
    C) Salah over Bruno (downgrade doh to a 4,5m def)

    1. Diaby Does Gallas 22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      No Mo / Mane vs Leeds = unthinkable

      1. kevchenko
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Do you expect them both to haul?

        If not, it's not unthinkable to have neither....

        Do you expect Leeds to get thrashed? I don't at all....

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          This. "Unthinkable" = no-brainer = no brain capacity to think.

        2. Diaby Does Gallas 22
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          You don’t expect the both to hail at home to Leeds? Wow

          1. kevchenko
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            I don't 'expect' it.

            They could, but expect is way, way too strong.

            Leeds are going to be well organised, and Liverpool won't be at 100% in the first week of the season.

    2. Pacer.
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Liverpool rusty and superior. Leeds on a championship hight and will come out absolutely fighting. You wouldn't bet on Leeds but it would be unsuprising if it's a tough game that Liverpool don't run away with

    3. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      This draft is fine (apart from Baggies GK and Soucek dead on bench after GW1, and maybe during if still in quarantine) - nothing to tweak.

  19. Thescaff
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Riddle me this, which is better starting combo
    A- Kai & Mitro
    B- Soucek & Werner

  20. Diaby Does Gallas 22
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    whats wrong w this?

    McCarthy
    Trent / Doherty / Justin
    Salah / Auba / Soucek / Saka
    Werner / Ings

    Subs
    Vinagre / 4.5
    Foden
    Ayew

    1. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      If you're not starting Ayew at home to Southampton, when are you planning to play him?

      1. Diaby Does Gallas 22
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        May bad, stew starts W1 - has 4 subs there. He seems the better option over Mitro and can’t double up on Saints w Adams surely

        1. kevchenko
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Ah yeah I see.

          I actually think I'd prefer the gamble on the Saints double up.

          No faith in Mitro or Ayew really - but much of a muchness.

          1. Diaby Does Gallas 22
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Might double up tbf just felt Ayew in the new 442 could be a shout with early fixtures. Decisions.

            1. kevchenko
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              He has good home games doesn't he, I don't fancy Palace away though in any match (although if memory serves they actually had some decent away results previously).

              At that price, he's a punt isn't he - I can't pick anyone I know for sure will do better than him, so best of luck with him!

  21. timawflowers
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Mitrovic or move to Wilson when he sounds for toon?

    1. Dr. Rog
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Wilson won’t be 6

      1. timawflowers
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Got enough for 7 but can't decide which will be the better for the first few gameweeks

      2. Thescaff
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        7? To rival dcl

    2. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      he wont cost 6.0 with his record in the PL

      1. timawflowers
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Disregard cost who would be better?

    3. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I'm going to look at Wilson for those first couple of weeks.

      Hoping for 6.5 or less.

  22. Chandler Bing
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    When is Chilwell due back?

  23. pakornk
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Barnes and Kane

    Or

    Son and Ings?

    1. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Son and Ings

    2. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B

  24. Milk, 1 Šuker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    I want to drop one: Mane or TAA which? (Not going with Salah)

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Mane I guess, especially if you won't captain.

      1. Milk, 1 Šuker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Auba has the armband right now. Thanks TM.

    2. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Mane, without any hesitation.

      Reason 1 - you can do loads more with the Mane money.
      Reason 2 - TAA is set and forget. Could haul against anyone.

      1. Milk, 1 Šuker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers Keva

      2. kevchenko
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        ....which you can't say about any other defender (elaborating on my reason 2)

  25. R.C
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    When Nketiah plays, he has more like a Firmino role in that Arsenal side right?

    Move deep to allow Auba / RW space to shoot?

    1. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Yeap, he just create space.
      When he plays......

  26. Will J 256
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Hi guys, do you happen to know if Soucek will make it for GW1?

  27. Kobayashi
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    I'm in a dilemma as the more I've thought about it, the less I actually want to get rid of Aubameyang for KDB, even though I still want KDB.

    The only way around this is to triple up on midfield premiums, and switch Mané to KDB instead in GW2 or 3. The tradeoff for this is that I would obviously have to downgrade elsewhere, and for now that means going without a Liverpool defender (at one point I had both).

    This always seemed (and still does) like a mad choice, especially when you consider value in terms of points per million so I avoided thinking about it until now. At the moment, I've been keeping a close eye on Liverpool and they have been letting in a substantial amount of goals in preseason, and watching the games some players (notably Salah) just don't seem to be up for it right now.

    And yes, I've no doubt things will soon click into gear, and that preseason results historically don't count for much. TAA however has not had much of a preseason, and Robertson looked uncharacteristically poor in the recent Scotland game too. I also understand we don't count on TAA & Robbo for CSs alone, that's why the former has such high ownership due to his attacking returns.

    I'm not sure if they will replicate their defensive form from last season when you consider the signings and investment their direct rivals are making, although I wouldn't bet against them being too far off (taking into account they also lost Alisson during the early stages).

    I wouldn't recommend anyone copying this approach necessarily, but with games against Chelsea and Arsenal in their first 4 I'm only expecting possibly one or two CSs. After GW4-5 it would only take a maximum of two FT to bring one of them in as their fixtures look better, by which point I should know which player(s) I want to take out.

    tl:dr; I'm likely choosing to invest the bulk of my budget in midfield and defence rather than going with any premium defenders from the beginning (I also want to see how players like Digne and Doherty settle in).

    1. Kobayashi
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      *typo at the end - I meant to say 'midfield and forwards'.

    2. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Interesting plan.

      Who would you have in their place they you'd expect more than 2-3 CS from in the early weeks?

      I feel TAA is an absolute must have. He could get returns (either CS or attacking) on average every single week - there is nobody else for 7.5m (in any position) that offers that kind of consistency.

  28. waltzingmatildas
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    A) ings and Davies
    B) Adams and doherty +1.5 for upgrades

  29. Milk, 1 Šuker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    The SGPs have Havertz scoring very few points compared to other assets. Any reason why that is?

    1. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      As i have written many times....i think that he will need time to adapt on PL. He will play, but he will nog birng same amount of pts as Werner, Ziyech and Pulisic

      1. Milk, 1 Šuker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Alright Z calm down. I haven't seen what was written before...

        1. Z
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Nothing personal bro. I just didnt want to ppl think that i am spamming 🙂

          1. Milk, 1 Šuker
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Righty-o.

      2. kevchenko
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Why does Havertz need time to adapt, but Werner and Ziyech not need it?

        They're all in the same boat aren't they?

        1. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Havertz will have been here for one week, Ziyech and Werner have been here for two months already.

          1. kevchenko
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            It's not like he's learning to fly a plane though is it?

            He's been playing football, and will carry on playing football.

            Too much made of the adapting, a week - a few weeks, 8 weeks?

            It's not like he'll be kicking the ground is it. 😀

            1. Milk, 1 Šuker
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Love it Kev. So true

            2. Z
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Plz take Havertz right now 🙂

              1. kevchenko
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                I might..... see if I can improve on 3rd 😀

  30. Tinfoil Deathstar
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Currently set on this:

    McCarthy
    TAA - Virgil - Doherty
    Auba - Salah - Soucek - Armstrong
    Ings - Werner - Mitrovic

    Subs: Nyland, Vinagre, Mitchell, Stephens

    Sticking points: McCarthy or Ryan/Martinez; Armstrong or ASM; Vinagre or KWP; Mitrovic or Rodrigo/Adams? I'm a Saints fan and can see KWP having a great season given his performances in project restart, but the idea of doubling up on Saints defenders scares me a little...hence why I've now moved KWP out and plumped for Armstrong in midfield.

    Planning to transfer Salah out for Bruno after GWK1; Auba for KDB after GWK2; and then Armstrong for Greenwood after GWK3.

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      We're one player apart in our starting XI 🙂

      1. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Which player? It’s almost the same as my team too.

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I don't have Armstrong

          1. HollywoodXI
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Same I have ASM

      2. Tinfoil Deathstar
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Ah that's reassuring! 🙂 I like the idea of the defence picking itself every week - no tinkering at all needed there, and those three obviously offer great value per £ compared to midfielders of a similar price.

    2. Milk, 1 Šuker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Do you see Armstrong improving? Will he have his minutes managed?

      1. Tinfoil Deathstar
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Having KWP really benefited Armstrong in project restart. KWP on the overlap allows Armstrong to get into more central positions - he was essentially playing in the No 10 position a lot of the time. I think he'll continue to offer a goal threat.

        1. Milk, 1 Šuker
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Mmm...interesting. Thing is I have ASM and not Armstrong even though he was one of the first names on my first few drafts. I don't want to triple up with Sot'on though!

          1. Tinfoil Deathstar
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Yeah I've been torn between the two as well to be honest, and both have been in my draft team at some point. The opening fixtures for Saints are better and Armstrong is definitely a favourite of Hassenhutl, but Newcastle signing Wilson is a big plus for ASM as they'll actually have someone who can get on the end of things.

            I'm considering even swapping Vinagre out for another 4.0 (Johnson at West Ham) and just upgrading Soucek to ASM instead.

            1. Milk, 1 Šuker
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Good plan